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VL Solutions => Welcome => Topic started by: Dweeberkitty on May 29, 2010, 05:26:21 pm

Title: Looking for someone...
Post by: Dweeberkitty on May 29, 2010, 05:26:21 pm
So as some of you know, I'm the one who started the whole Vector Linux Multimedia Bonus Disc thing: http://www.vectorlinuxsolutions.com/

Unfortunately I won't be able to continue with the project due to more pressing matters, especially in the near future years (work + school + family, etc...). Part of the reason that the project has not seen any new updates for a while now has been the time issue and also I was making excuses about waiting around for VL6 SOHO to build on.

I am wondering, is there anyone who would be interested in continuing the project? I have all the source code, scripts, the manual, website, in short, everything that I could pass on to someone who might have more time to devote to the project. I made lots of easy-to-use scripts that are especially made with future development in mind.


So here's the plug. I have all the development tools, but you don't necessarily need to be a developer or a Linux-whiz to take on this project. I would also be very willing to help someone who hasn't had very much experience packaging or anything (I definitely knew almost nothing when I started this project). After all, you have to start somewhere. I'd be sure to walk you through all the scripts and the process of packaging and all that.

If no one is interested in taking this on, I'll give all my stuff to the VL-devs for safe-keeping, hoping that something can be done with it. Don't get me wrong, I really believe in the project and would love to see it kept going. It's been a great learning experience and a lot of fun. You can reach me through PM or post questions in this thread.
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: Dweeberkitty on May 29, 2010, 06:17:12 pm
Another thing, the VectorLinuxSolutions website is going to expire on June 8. I can get the domain name and stuff transferred to someone if we want to keep the site around. Otherwise, it will die.
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: GrannyGeek on May 29, 2010, 06:21:13 pm
Sorry to hear you won't be continuing with the project. It was a wonderful group of files. I understand about not having time to continue, though.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: stretchedthin on May 29, 2010, 07:42:01 pm
I'd be interested.  It seems like it would be a good fit with the videos available at opensourcebistro (http://www.opensourcebistro.com).

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I am wondering, is there anyone who would be interested in continuing the project? I have all the source code, scripts, the manual, website, in short, everything that I could pass on to someone who might have more time to devote to the project. I made lots of easy-to-use scripts that are especially made with future development in mind.

As well as the above, I'd be very interested in hearing what you see as the future course of the project.

Wherever, or with whomever you decide to place the project, it should be said that you created something that was good for Vector and appreciated by the community.
Ken

Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: Dweeberkitty on May 30, 2010, 08:38:13 am
Ken,

I'd love to have you take over the project. You have a great thing going with opensourcebistro and I've been impressed by it. You might also want to talk to cintyram because he had sent an email a while back regarding VLSolutions and mentioned you.

As far as future development, I've mostly had a few ideas here and there on how it could further be integrated with VL (MMBD items in VAMSCC, a MMBD control panel of some sort, etc...). We can talk about these more in depth and get some input from the community as well. Also I have a few development setups for a Server Solutions Disc and a Gaming Disc as well that were never finished (well, barely started anyway). I don't know if those ideas will ever take off but they could be fun to get going in the same manner as the MMBD.

What I'd like to be able to do is pass off all the source code and such, but I'd still probably be able to contribute to it a bit. I just won't have time to pull everything together for releases and all that.

Also, if anyone else is interested, it'd be nice to have more people help with the project!
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: cintyram on May 31, 2010, 09:37:34 am
Hey Dweeberkitty,
 First up, thanks a lot for making the MMBD possible in the first place.  And then thanks again for making sure that it survives and thrives!
 While its a little bit sad to see that you wont be spending as much time, its really good to see that we are going through a good process of transition.  I am also very eager and willing to help continue the project. Let us discuss with ken[ stretchedthin] over the phone and post more specifics for the rest of the community to provide their input.
Cheers
Ram
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: kidd on May 31, 2010, 12:23:00 pm
What about setting a github repo? it would make easier the merging of casual contributions, and to synchronize main devs commits.

Just my 2c
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: cintyram on May 31, 2010, 03:33:25 pm
Making a public repo is a good idea. some of us already use assembla for git repos. But github is cool too
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: kidd on June 01, 2010, 02:18:52 am
I didn't know about assembla.  it seems nice too, but not free :(

There's also gitorious, but I haven't tried it. It seems github gets all the buzz out there.

Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: Dweeberkitty on June 01, 2010, 06:00:47 am
I've never used either github or assembla but I definitely agree with kidd about some sort of public repo making it easy to handle "casual contribution." That would help a lot I think.
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: kidd on June 01, 2010, 06:26:41 am
if you need  help to set up the git repo or upload to github, ask and you shall receive :)
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: Dweeberkitty on June 01, 2010, 08:23:46 am
if you need  help to set up the git repo or upload to github, ask and you shall receive :)

I am now asking.....  ;)

First you should know that the project consists of almost 100% packaging stuff (about 5-6gb worth). I don't know if that needs to be taken into consideration.

Thanks kidd! Let me know what I need to do to get this setup.
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: kidd on June 01, 2010, 10:04:00 am
I don't think sources of apps should go into the repo, but only the scripts to build them.

We have the $LINK variable in SlackBuild files, so we could set the url there, but having 5 Gb in a repo would make it unusable.

First, sign up at github, it's free.

* Then you should start a repo in your root directory of mmbd project.  (git init .)
* Then add all files but the tar.gz files. that's the tricky part, because others should be able to get those tar.gz's in some way...  I can't find a smart and non-painful way to do it.
* commit changes of the added files (git commit -m "initial upload")
* Set up a new repo at github (through the menus on their site)
* Follow the instructiions there.
* Finally, git push
* done!

Anyone has a good solution for solving step 2 without adding files one by one?

Cya!

Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: Dweeberkitty on June 01, 2010, 10:33:49 am
I assume that the final packages that are built with the scripts should also not go into the repo then? Everything is setup with the regular packaging format (program/version/program.tlz & program/version/src/allthatcrap)

Perhaps it would be easier to just have everything on an FTP host?
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: kidd on June 01, 2010, 03:26:03 pm
Maybe It'd be better to have all the stuff in an ftp, and migrate to github little by little.  then you won't have to deal with the trouble alone.

Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: cintyram on June 03, 2010, 10:07:50 am
hi folks, I some how managed to screw up my system again. so X doesnt work.  im typing this from links. so please excuse any formatting issues :).

online repo for scripts and documentation.  actual packages can be hosted on an FTP site or maybe even the VL repo.

 
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: stretchedthin on September 11, 2010, 07:55:55 pm
MMBD alive and well.  I've got a usable MMBD with over 50 applications so far.   Still have room on the disk so if you have any suggestions, fire away.

Here is a little video to see where it is, so far. (You may have to crank the volume.)
http://www.youtube.com/user/vid4ken?feature=mhum (http://www.youtube.com/user/vid4ken?feature=mhum)

Currently built and working...
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TiMidity++/2.13.2/TiMidity++-2.13.2-i486-1vl70.tgz
TranscoderAudio/0.0.4/TranscoderAudio-0.0.4-i586-1vl70.txz
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acidrip-0.14/0.14/acidrip-0.14-i586-1vl60.txz*
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Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: GrannyGeek on September 12, 2010, 05:59:50 pm
Thanks for your efforts! Will this work with VL6? VL6 SOHO?
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: stretchedthin on September 12, 2010, 06:32:09 pm
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Will this work with VL6? VL6 SOHO?

I pretty sure there will be to much incompatibilty with base depedencies for it to work with vl6.0, but I 'm currently testing on SOHO and I've been able to install a good number of the application on my test soho machine but not all.  I'm also thinking of a separate SOHO version with a greater tendency towards KDE applications.  I was thinking of Standard during the making of this and tried my best to give applications that did not bring in a lot of KDE or Gnome dependencies.  That's why I chose Openshot instead of Kdenlive, AcidRip instead of K9copy, and XFburn instead of K3B.  With a SOHO version I would have no such concern.
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: brokndodge on September 12, 2010, 07:29:43 pm
recommend the addition of chrome, but i'm a little biased.  i have a lil more time now, so i am going back to working on a slackbuild for chromium.
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: GrannyGeek on September 12, 2010, 09:50:19 pm
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Will this work with VL6? VL6 SOHO?

I pretty sure there will be to much incompatibilty with base depedencies for it to work with vl6.0, but I 'm currently testing on SOHO and I've been able to install a good number of the application on my test soho machine but not all.  I'm also thinking of a separate SOHO version with a greater tendency towards KDE applications. 

I don't understand what you're saying. Are there too many incompatibilities for it to work reliably with VL6? You seem to be saying that. But you're not sure about SOHO? What version of VectorLinux was it built on? I think we have a failure to communicate.<g>
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: stretchedthin on September 12, 2010, 10:26:24 pm
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I don't understand what you're saying. Are there too many incompatibilities for it to work reliably with VL6? You seem to be saying that. But you're not sure about SOHO? What version of VectorLinux was it built on? I think we have a failure to communicate.<g>
--GrannyGeek

Every application on the disk was built on VL7.0alpha2.1, with only VL7.0 in mind.  What I was trying to say was that a better option would be to make a separate SOHO addition of the MMBD.  This would also give an opportunity to add additional KDE based apps that are not included in what will be the VL7.0 standard version.

edit: Just looked into why a number of the apps are failing on Soho.  This one is common enough to be a show stopper on it's own.  VL7.0a.2.1 uses libpng14, Soho uses libpng12, there are a huge amount of incompatibilities between these two and libpng is a very common dependency. 

So long story short, if there is to be a MMBD for SOHO, then it will need to be it's own disk with applications built against SOHO.
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: GrannyGeek on September 12, 2010, 10:36:41 pm
Thank you. I didn't realize it was for VL7.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: stretchedthin on September 12, 2010, 11:32:23 pm
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Thank you. I didn't realize it was for VL7.
--GrannyGeek
My bad. I should have said in the original post.
Ken

edit: Dec 15, 2010
There are now bonus disk for VLsoho6.0 and VLstd7.0
Title: Re: Looking for someone...
Post by: stretchedthin on December 10, 2010, 11:49:10 am
Just posted a release notice.  The MMBD is officially released for both VL7.0 and VL6.0 soho. Check it out http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=12698.0 (http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=12698.0)