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Cooking up the Treats => Distro development => Topic started by: toothandnail on July 19, 2010, 08:10:33 am

Title: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 19, 2010, 08:10:33 am
 ;D Having seen the announcement on Distrowatch, I found and downloaded the new iso. Burned, and installed. This time, no problems during the install. All went as it should.

I had a problem during the first boot. I hijacked an existing Grub entry and modified it to suit the new kernel etc. I left in the 'vga=870' that I normally do, which sets the framebuffer to 12800x800. With that in place, the system would get to the point where newer kernels autoload the framebuffer, then locked up. Removing the 'vga=' fixed that and I was able to successfully boot.

I then hit another problem, which may have been my own fault - I couldn't log in as the user I'd created during the install. Maybe I didn't enter a password, though I thought I did. Anyhow, I logged in as root and used Vasm to reset the user password and was then able to log in as a normal user. I'm wondering a bit, if only because of the next problem, if there is something strange in the character set.

Final problem - I fired up wicd to log into the network. Selected the correct SSID, entered the WPA passphrase and tried to log in. No go - after a bit of activity, I got a 'bad password' error. So I went and checked that the pass phrase was correct. I checked it multiple times, tried both upper and lower case for the alphabetic parts of the pass phrase. And every time I attempted to connect, I got the 'bad password' error. I have checked and rechecked, and I'm absolutely convinced that I have it correctly entered. But it doesn't work

I'm at a loss on this one. I'm currently entering this from VL6.0, using the same wireless SSID, and the same pass phrase. Which works fine in VL6.0, but for unknown reasons, doesn't work under VL7.0 alpha 1.

I'll try again later with a wired connection, but there is something distinctly strange about the response to the pass phrase under VL7.0.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: vector on July 19, 2010, 06:39:27 pm
Well looks like distrowatch and ToothandNail stole my thunder but I'll introduce VectorLinux-CORE-7-alpha 2 just the same. Many changes since alpha 1:
added openjpeg, swig and slim
updated guile, librsvg, lcms, poppler and poppler-data
Biggest news is a brand new shiny kernel that about half the size that we used in the Vector 6 series. This is 2.6.33.4 with tuxonice and bootsplash patches. This release also updated libdrm and the intel video driver to the latest version available for better across the board intel video support. Again this just has xfce4 and fluxbox as the window managers and it defaults to using xfce4 from the slim login manager. Hopefully everyone will give this a try and let us developers know what you find in the way of bugs. We have already discovered a strange one that may be kernel related. Seems the installer is not passing the correct password information to the install. So during the install skip making a user and add after installation with vasm and even tho you may have done a root password it most likely will be empty after install so you will have to update that too. Now go download and let us know what you think!

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/iso-test/VL7.0-CORE-ALPHA-2.iso

Cheers!
Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: stretchedthin on July 20, 2010, 01:35:46 am
I can confirm all of toothandnail's observations...

I also had trouble at first boot.  For me when presented with the blank screen I took a guess the vxconf was running but I just couldn't see it. So I hit the enter key for times as I normally would at this stage in the set-up and once vxconf finished I had a picture again. Nice log-in screen by the way.

Just as toothandnail described my user password given during the set-up was useless.  I had to change the password with vasm to get that going.

wicd was also a no go for me for wireless (bad password).  I did some comparing with the set-up in vl6.0 and saw that there is a directory /var/run/wpa_supplicant that is not in VL7.0.  Not sure if that has anything to do with it.

I do have a couple notes of my own however,
1. Text in terminal is not being rendered well. Letters appear with chunks missing.
2. Type su in the terminal and presto your root. No need to type a password just 'su' and your there.
3. Ctrl Alt Backspace borks the system. Either the screen never comes back or it is frozen. Changing runlevels with init 3 has a similar result.
4. Mousepad can only use the find function once.  In order to find something else you need to close Mousepad and then open it again then type into the find dialog the new word.
5, Pressing Ctrl+Alt+f4/5/etc does nothing but make the curser disappear.  Does not appear to change runlevel.

That's it for now.
Ken


Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 20, 2010, 05:31:50 am
Well looks like distrowatch and ToothandNail stole my thunder but I'll introduce VectorLinux-CORE-7-alpha 2 just the same. Many changes since alpha 1:

:) Sorry about that. I was at home and had some time to spare when I saw the Distrowatch announcment. Couldn't resist....

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added openjpeg, swig and slim
updated guile, librsvg, lcms, poppler and poppler-data
Biggest news is a brand new shiny kernel that about half the size that we used in the Vector 6 series. This is 2.6.33.4 with tuxonice and bootsplash patches. This release also updated libdrm and the intel video driver to the latest version available for better across the board intel video support. Again this just has xfce4 and fluxbox as the window managers and it defaults to using xfce4 from the slim login manager. Hopefully everyone will give this a try and let us developers know what you find in the way of bugs. We have already discovered a strange one that may be kernel related. Seems the installer is not passing the correct password information to the install. So during the install skip making a user and add after installation with vasm and even tho you may have done a root password it most likely will be empty after install so you will have to update that too. Now go download and let us know what you think!

Right. I've now replaced both wcid and wpa_suplicant with your alternative versions. The wpa_suplicant has done the trick - I'm entering this from the alpha, with a wireless (WPA encrypted) connection. Thanks!

Other quick observations - I've got two 'home' icons on the desktop, but only one works - the other just opens the .desktop file. Same is happening with other items - the link to the forum is simply opening the .desktop file as well.

Unlike stretchedthin, I'm able to get to any of the virtual consoles without problems. Having set the root password again, I'm now getting a proper password prompt when using 'su' from terminal.

So far, for an early alpha, it looks pretty good. I will undoubtably find other problems, but the initial impression is good. Nice to have an up-to-date Xfce - I was never able to get the newer version to work with my hardware under 6.0.

I guess I should go and see if I can build some of my favourite packages. Especially some of the growing number that will no longer build under VL 6.0.

:) And see about getting some language packs working, given that Firefox didn't notice my interesting spelling of 'growing'...

On that subject, is there any news on the updated sbbuilder?

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: stretchedthin on July 20, 2010, 02:04:22 pm
 -Found the wpa_supplicant .txz that toothandnail spoke of and it did the trick for me as well.

 -Setting the root password through vasm also fixed the su terminal problem here.

 -I'm still having trouble with the virtual consules, but I'm going to try installing on a second machine today and   see if that problem is specific to this machine.

 -Tried making a boot usb with unetbootin, but while the installer starts fine it says it can not find install media. Seems like this installer is not looking anywhere but the cd drive for install info.

 -The following needs to be renamed for vl70.../var/log/packages/vlconfig2-6.0-noarch-6vl60, makes for some poorly named packages for anyone using sbbuilder.

 


Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 20, 2010, 02:14:08 pm
-Found the wpa_supplicant .txz that toothandnail spoke of and it did the trick for me as well.

Strange problem that one. I'm glad to see the back of it....


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-I'm still having trouble with the virtual consules, but I'm going to try installing on a second machine today and   see if that problem is specific to this machine.

Is the problem machine have Intel graphics? So far, the new drivers look pretty good on this one, though the problem with using 'vga=' in menu.lst is a bit odd.

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-The following needs to be renamed for vl70.../var/log/packages/vlconfig2-6.0-noarch-6vl60, makes for some poorly named packages for anyone using sbbuilder.

:) I hacked the copy of /var/log/packages/vlconfig to fix that problem. Haven't got sbbuilder to run yet though - it missing all sorts of things, haven't had time to track down what extras are needed. At the moment, I'm using hand-rolled SlackBuilds, so the packages may not be fit for general consumption. What did you need to do to get sbbuilder running?

Paul.


 



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Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: stretchedthin on July 20, 2010, 03:01:40 pm
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Is the problem machine have Intel graphics? So far, the new drivers look pretty good on this one, though the problem with using 'vga=' in menu.lst is a bit odd.
Yes it does.  I have not tried making the change to menu.1st, since I set up with lilo.  What would be the thing to look for and change there?

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I hacked the copy of /var/log/packages/vlconfig to fix that problem. Haven't got sbbuilder to run yet though - it missing all sorts of things, haven't had time to track down what extras are needed. At the moment, I'm using hand-rolled SlackBuilds, so the packages may not be fit for general consumption. What did you need to do to get sbbuilder running?

I've hacked mine as well, just though I'd mention it.  As far as sbbuilder I did a bit of a cheat.  On my VL6.0 machine I ran a generic type=normal, type=python, type=cmake, etc and then copied over the resulting Slackbuilds to a directory "generic Slackbuilds" on the VL7.0 machine.  Then when I download a souce file I want to work on I just create the name, version# ,src directories when selecting the download location. After I've got the source I just copy over an appropiate generic slackbuild from the directory, edit the name, program name and version.  Works fairly well.

ps. In each generic slackbuild file I edited each occurence of .tlz to txz.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 20, 2010, 03:34:17 pm
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Is the problem machine have Intel graphics? So far, the new drivers look pretty good on this one, though the problem with using 'vga=' in menu.lst is a bit odd.
Yes it does.  I have not tried making the change to menu.1st, since I set up with lilo.  What would be the thing to look for and change there?

Its a long time since I last looked at Lilo, but I think it should be an append, still in the form 'vga='. Slackware always used to recommend 'vga=791', which would give 1024x768.

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I hacked the copy of /var/log/packages/vlconfig to fix that problem. Haven't got sbbuilder to run yet though - it missing all sorts of things, haven't had time to track down what extras are needed. At the moment, I'm using hand-rolled SlackBuilds, so the packages may not be fit for general consumption. What did you need to do to get sbbuilder running?

I've hacked mine as well, just though I'd mention it.  As far as sbbuilder I did a bit of a cheat.  On my VL6.0 machine I ran a generic type=normal, type=python, type=cmake, etc and then copied over the resulting Slackbuilds to a directory "generic Slackbuilds" on the VL7.0 machine.  Then when I download a souce file I want to work on I just create the name, version# ,src directories when selecting the download location. After I've got the source I just copy over an appropiate generic slackbuild from the directory, edit the name, program name and version.  Works fairly well.

Thanks - a good idea. So far, I've been using mainly recycled SlackBuilds, getting some of my 'must have' software up. But there are a few things I'm going to need to go back to basics with, so that sounds like the way to get things working.

:) Maybe we should make a bit of space for new packages, save reinventing the wheel.

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ps. In each generic slackbuild file I edited each occurence of .tlz to txz.

:) Same here.

This development is becoming more and more urgent. Tonight alone I have hit two packages that will no longer build under VL6.0, one of them an important one. Looks like there will be no more Seamonkey builds for VL6.0, at least unless I can work out a repackaging of the prebuilt executables. Seamonkey now needs glibc 2.10 or greater - VL6.0 is stuck at 2.7. That makes something like 10 packages that I use a lot which can no longer be updated under 6.0.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: stretchedthin on July 20, 2010, 06:06:16 pm
I had built Gimp 2.7.1 on the previous alpha. I installed all the txz's for Gimp and it's dependencies except for poppler which this version now includes, onto this version (alpha 2).

I now get a error while Gimp is starting, (however it still starts)...
/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/file-pdf: error while loading shared libraries: libpoppler-glib.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

(gimp-2.7:1088): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp-2.7: gimp_wire_read(): error

When I install poppler-0.14.0, which I had also built on the previous version the error goes away.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: vector on July 20, 2010, 09:54:44 pm
Well that kernel had problems lets try this one went smooth for me no problems with passwords etc.
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/iso-test/VL7.0-CORE-ALPHA-2.1.iso
and the delta:
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/iso-test/VL7.0-CORE-ALPHA-2.isotoVL7.0-CORE-ALPHA-2.1.iso.delta
Thought I would catch you early before you fell in love................lol

Cheers,
Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 21, 2010, 02:16:58 am
Well that kernel had problems lets try this one went smooth for me no problems with passwords etc.
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/iso-test/VL7.0-CORE-ALPHA-2.1.iso
and the delta:
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/iso-test/VL7.0-CORE-ALPHA-2.isotoVL7.0-CORE-ALPHA-2.1.iso.delta
Thought I would catch you early before you fell in love................lol

 ;D This is revenge, isn't it?

Install was fine. I've not yet tired reinstating my 'vga=' into menu.lst, but boot is fine and the system seems to be running as it should. No trouble getting the WPA passphrase accepted this time round.

A couple of minor issues with Vasm:

Super > Filesystem menu > Mount  - the text says 'Mount partitions on boot time'  I guess that should be 'at boot time'?

Super > Services > Srvset - there are some strange errors - README is a appearing as a service, as is functions. There doesn't seem to be a service for wcid either.

Is there any place to put preliminary packages for VL7.0? I've got several built (including Seamonkey 2.0.6, which I can't build under VL 6.0 anymore).

Paul

Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: stretchedthin on July 21, 2010, 11:01:22 pm
Installed alpha 2.1, but on a different machine this time.  This one with ati graphics.  This kernel seems to behave as it should during the install and there is no problem with user or root settings and passwords.

I did encounter one glitch and that was when I had a usb wireless keyboard connected during the install the keyboard was no longer detected or just did not respond at the resolution selection screen before the graphical installer is launched.  This was fixed simply by switching to a ps2 keyboard.

Also I did have a package fail to build because cmake was to old 2.6.2.  I check for the latest cmake and it is now 2.8.2

Toothandnail how much can we put in our vectorcontib folder?  Perhaps we could share packages there.  I would like to get my hands on your seamonkey build.  I need seamonkey to complete my build of Miro.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 22, 2010, 05:42:18 am
Toothandnail how much can we put in our vectorcontib folder?  Perhaps we could share packages there.  I would like to get my hands on your seamonkey build.  I need seamonkey to complete my build of Miro.

Space in the contribs area is limited. I don't know what the limit is, but there is already quite a lot of data in there - just had a look, du is giving me a figure of 5.9 GB. So I think it would be doubtful that there is much capacity free there.

Maybe Robert can comment - could we create a 'testing' tree in the vectorlinux-7.0 area? I can move files from the contribs area to that area as new packages are produced. That would also provide a few new packages for iso inclusion.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: retired1af on July 22, 2010, 06:39:33 am
How much space do we need? I have a dedicated server that I can set up an FTP account for us to use to store files. :)
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 22, 2010, 10:45:15 am
How much space do we need? I have a dedicated server that I can set up an FTP account for us to use to store files. :)

Short term at least, probably not a great deal. Maybe 6 - 8 GB? That might be a viable alternative if there is some reason not to build a testing tree in the same area as the test isos. I don't know what course Robert will want to follow.

Sounds like a good offer. Thanks.

I used to put some files up on my own personal web space, but since changing ISPs, I no longer have any personal web space. Once I get the hosting reselling set up, that will probably change, but at present I've not got anywhere I can put files.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: retired1af on July 22, 2010, 11:45:34 am
6-8 gig is very doable. I can set up a generic FTP account we can use to temporarily store stuff until we get the storage crunch sorted out. Just give the word and I'll set it up.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: vector on July 22, 2010, 01:02:25 pm
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Maybe Robert can comment - could we create a 'testing' tree in the vectorlinux-7.0 area? I can move files from the contribs area to that area as new packages are produced. That would also provide a few new packages for iso inclusion.

Paul.
I made a vec7 folder in the main repo that we can use as a holding tank till we figure out how we want the vector7 repo organized. Can you guys upload to that area?

Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 22, 2010, 01:53:04 pm
I installed yesterday on the 1.3 GHz Celeron. I was thrown for a loop when I was about to pick what partition I wanted to install on and all the drives were listed as /dev/sdx (x being a placeholder for the actual designation)! Formerly they were all /dev/hdx as they are all IDE drives. I wanted to be absolutely sure I wasn't going to overwrite a partition I didn't intend to overwrite, so I went back to gparted, where the drives included drive labels and I got a better idea of just how VL7 Install was seeing the drives. When I went back to selecting the partition (I wasn't creating any new partitions), the drive list was confused and was mixing partitions from /dev/sda with partitions from /dev/sdb (as it identified them). This scared me, so I exited from the installation and started my RC3 so I could see what cfdisk saw the drives as. I made notes and started the VL7 installation again. This time the "select partition to install on" screen got the drive sizes right. I picked /dev/sda6 and holding my breath, began the installation. It did go to the right place. /dev/sda6 was formerly /dev/hde6.

After I installed LILO to a floppy disk after the installation was complete, I booted to RC3 with that floppy and got a kernel panic. I think the change from /dev/hdx to /dev/sdx is confusing the process. I tried editing lilo.conf, substituting the old /dev/hdx designations for the new /dev/sdx designation, but got a fatal error when I did lilo -v. So I see this change to /dev/sdx as a probable problem for computers that have older versions of VL installed because it appears that anyone using a floppy will need at least two (one for the new VL7 and one for the older versions). I don't know what will happen to computers that use other boot loaders or put LILO in the MBR.

After my original drive ID debacle, I tried the text installer. It couldn't find the installation media (CD in what used to be /dev/hdc and is now /dev/sdd, I think). So the text installer was a no-go. Fortunately the GUI installer worked right the second time.

I was confused by the Readme.function and Functions services. What are they? Can I leave them unchecked (I think they are right now and things seem to be working)?

One thing I would DEARLY love: make VASM keep the window size if we've resized it, at least until we're done with VASM. The default text sizes are much too small for my aging eyes and high-res screens and I always resize VASM so I can see all the text. It's very annoying to have to resize the window every time I do something additional.

I installed Tuxcards, which I *must* have, and was missing a needed library. I found it and its symlinks in RC3 and copied it into /usr/lib in VL7. I had other trouble with missing libraries but I didn't make a note of what wasn't working--will do that later. By the way, I install tuxcards by copying the executable from an earlier version of VL into the new version.

I'm writing this from Opera in VL7 Alpha 2. I see Vec has posted an Alpha 2.1 and I guess I'll have to install that in place of Alpha 2. I did have the problem of su switching me to root without a password, but I did the suggested fix with VASM and now it's working right. No video problems with my Radeon 9200 and I don't have wireless on this computer, so no chance to see what results I'd get. I don't have the console font problem that someone mentioned.

One thing: I boot with a standard screen and at midpoint in the boot process, the screen changes to a size very small and hard to read. I guess it starts at 640x480 (on a 1280x1024 screen) and then the screen changes to 1280x1024, with the text whizzing by at 640x480, leaving half the screen blank. I don't like this at all and would like to know if I can change it.

Alpha 2 seems much more complete than Alpha 1 and I expect that in the next release or two I'll be able to use it as my main system. Meanwhile, I consider RC3 my main system and HOPE that someday we'll get a final release.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 22, 2010, 03:48:34 pm
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Maybe Robert can comment - could we create a 'testing' tree in the vectorlinux-7.0 area? I can move files from the contribs area to that area as new packages are produced. That would also provide a few new packages for iso inclusion.

Paul.
I made a vec7 folder in the main repo that we can use as a holding tank till we figure out how we want the vector7 repo organized. Can you guys upload to that area?

I suspect that a contributors account won't be able to upload to the repo (could be wrong though...). For the moment, I've created a testing tree (largely following the areas used for VL 6.0). If other packagers can't upload there, they can use the announce area, and I can move the files into the relevant area. I've not (so far at least) done anything to run the repo maintenance scripts in the new area, so slapt-get won't work, but I can do that if necessary.

I've also uploaded the few packages that I've built to the new area - I think anyone should be able to download from there. Path is http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/

I've put up the following:

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/base/hdparm-9.29-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/net/firefox-3.6.7-i586-1vl60.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/net/rsync-3.0.7-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/net/seamonkey-2.0.6-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/net/thunderbird-3.1.1-i586-1vl60.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/conky-1.8.0-i586-2vl70.tlz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/grsync-1.1.1-i586-1vl70.txz

:) There are also language files for Firefox and Thunderbird, but I think I'll avoid listing all of them....

Hopefully we'll be able to make a few new packages available this way.

:) Just remembered. I've also built the most recent versions of slapt-get and gslapt - I'll find them and upload them tomorrow.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 22, 2010, 04:06:25 pm
After my original drive ID debacle, I tried the text installer. It couldn't find the installation media (CD in what used to be /dev/hdc and is now /dev/sdd, I think). So the text installer was a no-go. Fortunately the GUI installer worked right the second time.

I had the same problem with the text installer in Alpha 1, but haven't tired it in any of the more recent alphas.

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I was confused by the Readme.function and Functions services. What are they? Can I leave them unchecked (I think they are right now and things seem to be working)?

I saw the same thing. I'm pretty sure that is a Vasm error - its picking up files from the /etc/rc.d area. I think I mentioned that problem in one of my messages. Doesn't seem to be a major problem - I just ignored them....

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One thing I would DEARLY love: make VASM keep the window size if we've resized it, at least until we're done with VASM. The default text sizes are much too small for my aging eyes and high-res screens and I always resize VASM so I can see all the text. It's very annoying to have to resize the window every time I do something additional.

I'm not too worried by the font size, but I also find the inability to keep the window size correct annoying. I was finding that in several instances, the base window was too small to see any of the text correctly (and in some instances, the entry box was partially hiding things like prompts. When doing something like setting up multiple mount points, it was a pain to have to keep resizing the base window every time it came back.

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One thing: I boot with a standard screen and at midpoint in the boot process, the screen changes to a size very small and hard to read. I guess it starts at 640x480 (on a 1280x1024 screen) and then the screen changes to 1280x1024, with the text whizzing by at 640x480, leaving half the screen blank. I don't like this at all and would like to know if I can change it.

That is a 'feature' of more recent kernels. They automatically enable the framebuffer at native resolution. While I always did that anyway with a 'vga=' command in my Grub menu.lst, I find the new method untidy, and would much prefer not to have it happen. I don't think it is changeable, unfortunately.

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Alpha 2 seems much more complete than Alpha 1 and I expect that in the next release or two I'll be able to use it as my main system. Meanwhile, I consider RC3 my main system and HOPE that someday we'll get a final release.

I've now built enough 'must have' packages that I can almost use Alpha 2.1 as my main system. It is becoming increasingly urgent that there is a release soon - people using Seamonkey in VL6.0 now have a serious problem - the most recent version fixes a number of security issues, but cannot be built under VL 6.0. Problems of that sort are only going to become more frequent.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 22, 2010, 04:57:15 pm
I just tried to install Alpha 2.1 and I'm afraid it's a nonstarter for me. Neither the keyboard nor mouse works and I can't proceed with the install in any way, as I can't select anything; Enter has no results. This happens when I try a text install, too. Both the keyboard and mouse are USB and legacy USB support is enabled in BIOS. Given how many computers do not come with PS/2 connectors today, I think this simply must be fixed.

So I'm sticking with Alpha 2 until a fix comes along. Opera is the outdated 10.10 version. Can we get 10.60, which I installed myself and am writing this in? Flash is not working in Opera. I haven't investigated the problem, though, or even whether Flash is present in Alpha 2. Will do that next.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 22, 2010, 09:26:52 pm
The Flash included in the ISO is not the latest version. Given that Flash updates are usually for security reasons, I hope the latest Flash will make it into the ISO. I installed the latest version from adobe.com.

The Flash plugin is located in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, but Opera is not doing Flash. It reports no flash plugin installed, but it is in a location where Opera should find it. I've had problems in the past with Opera not recognizing Flash--hope it's not back. Is Flash working with Opera for anyone?

I tried to download some of toothandnail's packages, but I got a 404 and couldn't locate http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/net/ .
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: vector on July 22, 2010, 10:11:07 pm
Opera needs some of mozilla to use the flash plugin. You need to edit /etc/ld.so.conf and add /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2
then  run ldconfig. Fire up opera and flash should work

cheers,
Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: vector on July 22, 2010, 11:15:32 pm
OK since Paul took the horse by the reins for VL7 I have added some testing packages too:
opera latest
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/net/opera-10.60.6386-x86-1vl70.txz
new perl Kidd requested:
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/perl-5.12.1-i586-3vl70.txz
if you update your perl you can also add frozen-bubble:
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/games/frozen-bubble-2.2.0-i586-3vl70.txz
some system stuff:
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/base/slapt-get-0.10.2f-i586-1vl60.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/gslapt-0.5.3c-i586-1vl60.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/dev/sbbuilder-0.4.11.4-noarch-1vl70.txz
Finally a kernel revision about 1/3 smaller than the shipped 2.1 kernel:
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/kernel/kernel-2.6.33.4-i686-4vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/kernel/kernel-modules-2.6.33.4-i686-4vl70.txz
Granny tried to do tuxcards but not building for the moment,,,,,,,,,,,,:(

and just to clarify:
Even tho we call this vl-core it is intended as the base for the next major vl release so the more people we can get involved at this building level the less work and time needed to get to vl7 final. So please jump in the water is fine and we need everyone with an interest to participate..............thank you!!!

Cheers,
Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: stretchedthin on July 22, 2010, 11:31:12 pm
Quote
I suspect that a contributors account won't be able to upload to the repo (could be wrong though...).
@toothandnail.  If I upload to my contributers account would you be willing to move the contributed package to the repo for vl70?  You can feel free to delete immediately after transfer if space is a problem.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: Masta on July 23, 2010, 12:08:59 am
Quote
Even tho we call this vl-core it is intended as the base for the next major vl release so the more people we can get involved at this building level the less work and time needed to get to vl7 final. So please jump in the water is fine and we need everyone with an interest to participate..............thank you!!!

Indeed, we certainly would appreciate any level of involvement. The developing hands are few in number at the time being, and your involvement would really help to get to the final release in much less time. It is the perfect time to make sure things are working properly for your hardware and application needs.
                                                                                                                                                            Thanks
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 23, 2010, 01:07:58 am
Quote
I suspect that a contributors account won't be able to upload to the repo (could be wrong though...).
@toothandnail.  If I upload to my contributers account would you be willing to move the contributed package to the repo for vl70?  You can feel free to delete immediately after transfer if space is a problem.


No problem moving files. I'd suggest you drop a message in the packagers area, or here for that matter (or PM me) so I know what is there to be moved.. I may not be able to delete moved files - the account I use for moving files doesn't have permissions to delete contrib area files. I'll let everyone know when files have been moved.

I've not (so far) uploaded any source, though I guess a source directory will be needed as soon as the packages become anything other than test cases.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 23, 2010, 01:14:26 am
I tried to download some of toothandnail's packages, but I got a 404 and couldn't locate http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/net/ .

That's strange. Shouldn't be any restrictions on download access to that area. I hope its not a general problem. Maybe some other people can check to see if they can download from the area?

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 23, 2010, 05:18:52 am
The new kernel seems to be doing fine, though doinst.sh for the kernel modules failed - on my test install, kernel modules are in /lib/modules/2.6.33.4-smp, and doinst is looking for 2.6.33.4.

Problem with gslapt - the /usr/share/applications/gslap.desktop calls gslapt directly, rather than using vsuper. I found my gslapt, slapt-get packages and uploaded them. Gslapt package has a corrected gslapt.desktop, slapt-get has an updated /etc/slapt-get/slapt-getrc.

A few more builds:

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/base-apps/htop-0.8.3-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/base-apps/mc-4.7.3-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/base-apps/synbak-1.3.1-noarch-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/base-apps/tmpreaper-1.6.13-i586-1vl70.txz

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/base/tar-1.23-i586-1vl70.txz

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/conky-1.8.0-i586-2vl70.txz (fixes a couple of build stupidities)
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/freetype-2.4.1-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/galculator-1.3.4-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/geany-0.19-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/gtkfind-1.1-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/hardinfo-0.5.1-i586-1vl70.txz

I've hit a strange problem with utf8 rendering, not sure what is going on there yet. Cleared by seting LANG=en_GB rather than LANG=en_GB.utf8. But the problem seems intermittent, so I can't really give it a pattern yet.

:) Now to try the sbbuilder update....

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 23, 2010, 08:10:01 am
A few more packages. Maybe we need a separate thread to keep track of testing packages for 7.0....

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/dev/cmake-2.8.2-i586-1vl70.txz

Needed to build this item, also a good test for the updated sbbuilder:

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/medit-0.10.1-i586-1vl70.txz

and finally:

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/medit-0.10.1-i586-1vl70.txz

 :-[ It would help if I put up the correct package. It should have been this item:

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/net/wireshark-1.2.9-i586-1vl70.txz

:) I'm back to work tomorrow, so I will be leaving people in peace for a bit.

Paul.

Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: Pita on July 23, 2010, 08:03:33 pm
Trying to install with text installer it could not find the CD.

Gui installation worked and took about 30 minutes. When asked to add a user
it gave an error message and the installer page closed. Rebooted.

It stopped saying:
"Failed to open the device /dev/sdb6: No such file or directory"
followed by direction to enter root password etc.

I had the same problem with slackware-13.1 and changed in fstab sdb to hdd
and was then able to boot. Unfortunately slack hangs the system when I open
X.

I now did the same for this VL7, changed in fstab sdb6 to hdd6 and the booting
stops again as above saying can't open device /dev/hdd6.

How to go about?
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: vector on July 23, 2010, 08:38:29 pm
Quote
I now did the same for this VL7, changed in fstab sdb6 to hdd6 and the booting
stops again as above saying can't open device /dev/hdd6.

How to go about?
With vl7 slack13 ubuntu suse fedora etc the new device system is now sd vs hd in fact  the hd system is no longer maintained in the kernel, its available to build but is deprecated. All you have to remember is what used to be hdx is now sdx. So in your case if you are using /dev/hdb6 to install it will now be /dev/sdb6 (just substitute sd for hd the rest is the same). If you use lilo as your bootloader make sure all hdx is converted to sdx in your liloconf file. I am not sure from your post if you use a seperate /home partition or not I would try a reinstall and remember what was hd is now sd........hope that helped some.

Cheers,
Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 23, 2010, 08:46:04 pm
I tried to download some of toothandnail's packages, but I got a 404 and couldn't locate http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/net/ .

That's strange. Shouldn't be any restrictions on download access to that area. I hope its not a general problem. Maybe some other people can check to see if they can download from the area?

It's working today and I downloaded what I want.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: Pita on July 24, 2010, 12:02:15 am
Quote
I now did the same for this VL7, changed in fstab sdb6 to hdd6 and the booting
stops again as above saying can't open device /dev/hdd6.

How to go about?
With vl7 slack13 ubuntu suse fedora etc the new device system is now sd vs hd in fact  the hd system is no longer maintained in the kernel, its available to build but is deprecated. All you have to remember is what used to be hdx is now sdx. So in your case if you are using /dev/hdb6 to install it will now be /dev/sdb6 (just substitute sd for hd the rest is the same). If you use lilo as your bootloader make sure all hdx is converted to sdx in your liloconf file. I am not sure from your post if you use a seperate /home partition or not I would try a reinstall and remember what was hd is now sd........hope that helped some.

Cheers,
Vec


Thanks! Got it working. Posting from within now. Needed 2 more install. The previous to this install lilo /boot/tamu could not read the slackware properly. Next install I excluded this directory. Will do it manually.
Internet and sound working. First impression very good except lilo splash looks awful.  ;D
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: stretchedthin on July 24, 2010, 01:14:56 am
I'm guessing the included qt4 still needs to be built against the libpng14 package.  I'm getting the same png errors mentioned in the alpha 1 thread.  Went away when I installed my own qt4 which was built against libpng14.

Not sure why but my lilo spash went away.  Could have been me so maybe wait until you hear again of the same problem from another testor before you consider it a real problem.

Starting vasm as a normal user, then selecting SUPER from the menu results in an error.

vasm -->XWMSET offers the normal stable of window managers plus 'd', what the heck is 'd'.

That's all for now.  Next 5 days are work days for me, so I'll just keep reporting what little I can.  Hope to have some packages for contribution come my days off.


Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: Pita on July 24, 2010, 01:34:52 am
As mentioned during install user cannot be added giving error: file conf3.?.0
does not exist.

Next I could not anymore get into my working VL box with the new lilo. There
were no errors, it just sat on the splash screen. Had to boot from install CD
of VL6-STD and get my old lilo back with hda and hdd. Which means I cannot
boot again into VL7.  Can hda and sda be reconciled?
If I use the lilo.conf file of VL7 in my working box get error :Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/sda")
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 24, 2010, 04:17:48 pm
Quote
One thing: I boot with a standard screen and at midpoint in the boot process, the screen changes to a size very small and hard to read. I guess it starts at 640x480 (on a 1280x1024 screen) and then the screen changes to 1280x1024, with the text whizzing by at 640x480, leaving half the screen blank. I don't like this at all and would like to know if I can change it.

That is a 'feature' of more recent kernels. They automatically enable the framebuffer at native resolution. While I always did that anyway with a 'vga=' command in my Grub menu.lst, I find the new method untidy, and would much prefer not to have it happen. I don't think it is changeable, unfortunately.

Yuck! My current screen is 1280x1024. I hate to think of what it'll look like when I install on another computer with a 1600x1200 screen.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 24, 2010, 04:20:31 pm
Opera needs some of mozilla to use the flash plugin. You need to edit /etc/ld.so.conf and add /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2
then  run ldconfig. Fire up opera and flash should work

Thanks! I followed your directions and Flash is now working in Opera (and Firefox and SeaMonkey).
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: Pita on July 24, 2010, 05:02:44 pm
I am now able to open VL7 booting from the VL7-CD.

There was no gslapt and slapt-get installed. Installed them.

Upgraded opera and firefox. Would only worked if not include qt upgrade since
it causes an error. Opera would not open, missing library libqt-mt I think. Installed
10.60 directly and working well.

Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 24, 2010, 05:09:38 pm
With vl7 slack13 ubuntu suse fedora etc the new device system is now sd vs hd in fact  the hd system is no longer maintained in the kernel, its available to build but is deprecated. All you have to remember is what used to be hdx is now sdx. So in your case if you are using /dev/hdb6 to install it will now be /dev/sdb6 (just substitute sd for hd the rest is the same). If you use lilo as your bootloader make sure all hdx is converted to sdx in your liloconf file. I am not sure from your post if you use a seperate /home partition or not I would try a reinstall and remember what was hd is now sd........hope that helped some.

It didn't work quite so neatly on my system. /dev/hda became /dev/sdb. /dev/hde (where my Linux partitions live) became /dev/sda. My former /dev/hdb became /dev/sdc. My DVD drive is now /dev/sdd.

For some reason, LILO can't boot my partitions except for /dev/sda11 (VL7 Alpha 2.1). I get a kernel panic at about midpoint in loading the older systems. I did make sure lilo.conf had the correct /dev/sdx designations for my partitions, but lilo.conf was already that way. I tried changing the older partitions to  /dev/hdx but that didn't work at all.

I have LILO on a floppy disk, so I just use a different floppy if I want to run an older Linux installation. On my other computer I'll have to use the CD for an earlier Linux, as it has no floppy drive.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: Pita on July 24, 2010, 11:51:43 pm
Added now a user.

'at' working for user!

To use the CD I had to make a symlink of cdrom and dvd in /dev to /dev/sr0
Changed in fstab /dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom.......

Watching now a DVD and working perfectly.

Can't test printers since the drivers for mine not loaded.

It seems after a little tweaking here and there VL7 works great AFAIC. :D
Therefore will not do more testing in this version.

BTW if I boot into slackware with VL7-CD and start X, fluxbox or wmaker
the system freezes once the program is up.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: Pita on July 25, 2010, 08:17:23 pm
I made it! :) :) :)
I have again amultiple boot lilo. One into my VL6 working box, the others
into VL7 and Slackware-13.1 resepectively.

Installed kernel-2.6.33.4 into my VL6 box.
Did lilo with hd setting.
Changed in fstab hd to sd.
Rebooted with VL7CD.
Changed lilo.conf with hd settings to new one with sd settings I copied from VL7.
Did lilo.
Rebooted and there I am in my VL6 box all set to sd.
I must admit during the run my heartbeat accelerated a bit. ;D

Now one problem, NVIDIA does not load. I copied /usr/src from VL7
to my box.  According to nvidia log the gcc should be 4.4 version.
Any suggestions?

Quote
The compiler used to compile the kernel (gcc 4.4) does not exactly match the
   current compiler (gcc 4.2).  The Linux 2.6 kernel module loader rejects kern
   el modules built with a version of gcc that does not exactly match that of t
   he compiler used to build the running kernel.
 
   If you know what you are doing and want to ignore the gcc version check, sel
   ect "No" to continue installation.  Otherwise, select "Yes" to abort install
   ation, set the CC environment variable to the name of the compiler used to c
   ompile your kernel, and restart installation.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 26, 2010, 04:59:08 am
Another couple of packages:

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/enchant-1.6.0-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/xine-lib-1.1.19-i686-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/net/firefox-3.6.8-i586-1vl60.txz

Plus the firefox language packs.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: M0E-lnx on July 26, 2010, 12:42:09 pm
Just installed this in a VM, but I'm pretty sure other will experience the same thing.

when fully booted to X, open some program, vi, nano, firefox, anything that has a text input box or where you need to move around with the keyboard.

The End and some directional keys dont work. This problem dates back to the 6.0 SOHO beta tests with the newer xorg that does not *require* an xorg.conf file.

I solved this by adding an xorg.conf file and adding the following snipet to the ServerFlags section

Code: [Select]
Option "AllowEmptyInput"  "false"
Option "AutoAddDevices"  "false"
That fixes the problem.... but it's annoying when it acts crazy out of the box.. maybe something the devs could consider as a default fix.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: Pita on July 26, 2010, 06:14:58 pm
Just installed this in a VM, but I'm pretty sure other will experience the same thing.

when fully booted to X, open some program, vi, nano, firefox, anything that has a text input box or where you need to move around with the keyboard.

The End and some directional keys dont work. This problem dates back to the 6.0 SOHO beta tests with the newer xorg that does not *require* an xorg.conf file.

I solved this by adding an xorg.conf file and adding the following snipet to the ServerFlags section

Code: [Select]
Option "AllowEmptyInput"  "false"
Option "AutoAddDevices"  "false"
That fixes the problem.... but it's annoying when it acts crazy out of the box.. maybe something the devs could consider as a default fix.

Just checked it in firefox and there is no such problem. Keyboard keys working propely.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 26, 2010, 06:52:04 pm
I haven't had problems with End or the arrow keys. I didn't go with the "no xorg.conf" option. I would not want to be without an xorg.conf file.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 26, 2010, 07:00:41 pm
Gslapt from the menu does not seem to work. I have to su to root in a terminal and type gslapt and then Gslapt loads. I can't get the VL7 testing repo added to the Gslapt sources. It says there is no such place. Also, in order to set up CUPS I had to start from a browser (http://localhost:631/printers); it didn't work from VASM.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: Pita on July 26, 2010, 08:23:54 pm
Why is the kernel of VL7.0-CORE-ALPHA-2.1 so much bigger than the one of
VL7.0-CORE-ALPHA-2 ? More than twice the size.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: M0E-lnx on July 27, 2010, 06:08:24 am
well, I still had the problem here... but then again, i'm in a VM... and my GUI is over VNC, so there is a possibility that the problem exists on another layer.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 27, 2010, 07:44:20 am
Gslapt from the menu does not seem to work. I have to su to root in a terminal and type gslapt and then Gslapt loads. I can't get the VL7 testing repo added to the Gslapt sources. It says there is no such place. Also, in order to set up CUPS I had to start from a browser (http://localhost:631/printers); it didn't work from VASM.
--GrannyGeek

Sorry, but there is no VL7.0 testing repo - it is simply a collection of files in roughly the same places as they would be under VL6.0. Trouble is, with the switch to .txz packages (which follows current Slackware practice), the repo tools are no longer functional. The original versions needed a specific version of tar to work with lzma compression, the new ones will need not only that, but also a copy of the xz package. Not sure what is needed to get that done.

As to Gslapt, there are two packages up there. If you download this one:

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/gslapt-0.5.3c-i586-1vl70.txz

it has a corrected /usr/share/applications/gslapt.desktop. The original had the same problem that the original VL6.0 release of Gslapt had - the .desktop calls gslapt directly, which will not work, since it requires root access. My build simply fixes the .desktop file.

Also, the other build of slapt-get (http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/base/slapt-get-0.10.2f-i586-1vl70.txz) has a hacked /etc/slatpt-get/slapt-getrc, which includes the VL6.0 repostitories.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: Masta on July 27, 2010, 05:28:27 pm
Thanks Paul.
 Would you please contact the packager of the gslapt with that information so that we don't have this show again in the future?
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: stretchedthin on July 30, 2010, 02:23:25 am
@toothandnail.  I've uploaded a few packages into my vectorcontrib folder if you can find time to move them over to the vl70 area. 
Thanks, Ken
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 30, 2010, 05:13:14 am
@toothandnail.  I've uploaded a few packages into my vectorcontrib folder if you can find time to move them over to the vl70 area. 
Thanks, Ken

No problem. Can you PM me a list with some brief descriptions? Otherwise I'm going to be spending a lot of time working out what area they need to go to....

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 30, 2010, 05:20:31 am
I'm having some strange permission problems in VL7.0. Maybe someone can tell me what is going on....

I have an Amahi server. It has been offline since my move, but I've finally got it back up and running. It provides a number of different services - DHCP, DNS and file/print sharing.

I'm having problems mounting shares from the Amahi box so that they can be written to by normal users. I use the following command to mount a share:

Code: [Select]
mount -t cifs //hda/music /mnt/amahi -o user=notme2%xxxxx
That mounts the share without problems, and entering 'mount' without arguments gives me the following:

Code: [Select]
//hda/music on /mnt/amahi type cifs (rw,mand)
What I have done in the past is use Thunar to change read/write permissions for the 'amahi' directory, and selected recursive when applying the permissions. However, if I do that under VL7.0, the permissions change straight back to read only for anyone other than root. I have no idea why the permissions won't change, and it means that I can only write to the share as root, which causes problems if I try and access the files from another machine. Problem didn't exist under VL6.0, but I've yet to find a way to fix it with VL7.0.

For general information, Amahi is based on Fedora 12, and the install I'm using is a full Fedora install with Amahi added during the install.

Hmm. I thought I might be able to get round the problem by adding the test share to /etc/fstab, with 'users' specified. Trouble is, it doesn't get that far. I get this error:

Code: [Select]
/sbin/mount.cifs: not installed setuid - "user" CIFS mounts not supported
I thought all the mount.xxx options should be setuid?

Paul.

Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: henryxcrudos on July 30, 2010, 10:34:35 am
Just to say I'm really excited about this. Once I'm finished with writing my MA thesis (in VL6 Light), I'll have enough time at hands to build this or that and contribute stupid questions ;). I hope there'll be a VL7 Light as well?
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: prince on July 30, 2010, 10:51:16 am
Where is the 64-bit edition?
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: nightflier on July 30, 2010, 11:50:10 am
/sbin/mount.cifs: not installed setuid - "user" CIFS mounts not supported

I noticed that after upgrading to samba 3.5.3, the vlsmbmnt utility stopped working. Looking at error messages I see this:
Code: [Select]
This mount.cifs program has been built with the ability to run as a setuid root program disabled.
mount.cifs has not been well audited for security holes. Therefore the Samba team does not recommend
installing it as a setuid root program.
Obviously this is a security concern and they chose to close that door.

I found this command to work:
Code: [Select]
mount -t cifs -o username=something -o users //ip_address/share /path/to/mountOf course, this requires root access. Some of the options available to regular users are fusesmb or smbnetfs. I have not tried these, as I prefer KDE's built-in samba handling.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 30, 2010, 12:11:53 pm
/sbin/mount.cifs: not installed setuid - "user" CIFS mounts not supported

I noticed that after upgrading to samba 3.5.3, the vlsmbmnt utility stopped working. Looking at error messages I see this:
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This mount.cifs program has been built with the ability to run as a setuid root program disabled.
mount.cifs has not been well audited for security holes. Therefore the Samba team does not recommend
installing it as a setuid root program.
Obviously this is a security concern and they chose to close that door.

I found this command to work:
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mount -t cifs -o username=something -o users //ip_address/share /path/to/mountOf course, this requires root access. Some of the options available to regular users are fusesmb or smbnetfs. I have not tried these, as I prefer KDE's built-in samba handling.

Hmm. Well, I added the following to /etc/fstab in VL6.0:

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//hda/movies /home/tooth/smb cifs noauto,users,rw,user=xxxx,password=yyyy 0 0
( :) username and password have been changed....). Under VL6.0, that works fine, though, as you say, root access is needed to perform the mount command.

In VL7.0, I used a minor variant of the same command in fstab:

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//hda/movies /home/notme2/Music cifs noauto,users,rw,user=xxxx,password=yyyy 0 0
With root access, the command completes sucessfully, and the share is mounted. However, I still have no write access to the share as a normal user. As root, I can write to it, but, even with the 'users' specified (and even though an identical command works in VL6.0), under VL7.0, no joy....

I don't know what the problem is, but there certainly seems to be a problem.....

:) I also like the KDE handling of Samba shares. Trouble is, I hate KDE. I've also been forced to give up using fusesmb - I was having time out problems on large files, though that may be related to the horrible performance of my Icy Box NAS - I may try it again with the Amahi box, see if it works any better.

Paul.

Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: M0E-lnx on July 30, 2010, 12:20:00 pm
probably a typo, but you do you know that '//hda/' doesn't look right.

Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 30, 2010, 01:30:03 pm
probably a typo, but you do you know that '//hda/' doesn't look right.

No, sorry, I don't know that it doesn't look right. In what way?

This is a dump from smbtree, showing the resources involved:

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\\HDA            ibmpeers.net
\\HDA\HL-5050-series Brother HL-5050 series
\\HDA\print$         
\\HDA\Books          Books
\\HDA\Pictures        Pictures
\\HDA\Movies          Movies
\\HDA\Music          Music
\\HDA\Docs            Docs
\\HDA\IPC$            IPC Service (ibmpeers.net)

And, as I said, the first sample, run under VL6.0 works correctly, and gives the normal user read/write access to the share. When mount is executed under VL7.0, it mouts correctly, but the normal user doesn't have write access, only read access. Root does have read/write access. Which is very strange....

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: nightflier on July 30, 2010, 01:44:00 pm
When a Linux user sees "hda", the first hard drive on first IDE channel usually comes to mind.  :D

Does your NAS box support anything besides samba? I transitioned from using samba to nfs and it works much better in my case.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on July 30, 2010, 02:23:27 pm
When a Linux user sees "hda", the first hard drive on first IDE channel usually comes to mind.  :D

:) I've been using SATA drives for so long I didn't even think of that one.....  In this instance, HDA is the system name. Since it also provides DNS for the network, it resolves to the system name, saves me using the IP.

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Does your NAS box support anything besides samba? I transitioned from using samba to nfs and it works much better in my case.

It should do, but I'll have to configure it (or find another server). Amahi is largely focused on household use, and the assumption is that most of the clients will be Windows boxes. So I may well move on eventually. On the other hand, I have a couple of clients who can probably make good use of Amahi. Its web-enabled applications are pretty good....

Initially I thought it was an Amahi bug, but the fact that it works under VL6.0 and not under VL7.0 tends to point the finger at something in the VL alpha.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on August 01, 2010, 01:34:38 pm
Stretchedthin has built a number of packages for VL7.0. Downloadable from the testing tree. As below:

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/base-apps/aucdtect-0.8.2-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/base-apps/cdcd-0.6.6-i586-1vl70.txz

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/AMB-plugins-0.6.1-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/WebKit-r61351-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/aubio-0.3.2-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/babl-0.1.2-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/blop-0.2.8-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/cairo-1.8.10-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/cairo-perl-1.061-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/cairomm-1.8.4-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/caps-plugins-0.4.4-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/fftw-3.2.2-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/wxGTK-2.8.11-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/wxPython-2.8.11.0--.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/wxWidgets-2.8.11-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/wxsvg-1.0.3-i586-1vl70.txz

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/autopano-sift-2.4-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/autotrace-0.31.1-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/dvd-slideshow-0.8.2_2-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/dvdauthor-0.6.18-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/dvgrab-3.5-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/enblend-4.0-i586-1vl70.txz

Also a few more items that I've built:

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/base-apps/ImageMagick-6.6.3_1-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/imlib2-1.4.4-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/libpcap-1.0.0-i586-1vl70.txz

I've also borrowed a couple of Rodrigo's buid scripts to build two Xfce plugins that I needed:

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/xfce/xfce4-battery-plugin-0.5.1-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/xfce/xfce4-mount-plugin-0.5.5-i586-1vl70.txz

Paul

Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: M0E-lnx on August 04, 2010, 09:42:17 am
A long time VL user has suggested to me in an IRC session to consider shipping libjpeg-turbo as a drop-in replacement for the typical libjpeg.

It should work as a drop-in replacement we would just need some kind of trick to keep annoying update notifications from popping up all over the place.

See more information here http://libjpeg-turbo.virtualgl.org/
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: stretchedthin on August 05, 2010, 10:59:09 am
A long time VL user has suggested to me in an IRC session to consider shipping libjpeg-turbo as a drop-in replacement for the typical libjpeg.

It should work as a drop-in replacement we would just need some kind of trick to keep annoying update notifications from popping up all over the place.

See more information here http://libjpeg-turbo.virtualgl.org/

I like the idea of opening up a discussion of ways vl7.0 could be given a little more zing.  Sounds like libjpeg-turbo could speed things up as far as jpg is involved.  I would also like to throw in the idea of a real-time kernel modual (used to be available back with vl 5.8.)  into the discussion.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: Pita on August 05, 2010, 09:07:45 pm
Will gcc-4.4.4 be made available in order that one can use nvidia with this kernel?
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on August 08, 2010, 12:43:46 pm
A couple more packages for the 7.0 alpha:

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/base-apps/nano-2.2.5-i586-1vl70.txz

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/net/thunderbird-3.1.2-i586-1vl60.txz

and language packs.

 ;D And I've finally managed to find the right patch to get my favourite bit of eye-candy to compile:

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/wbar-1.3.3-i586-1vl70.txz

This package includes Wbarconf as well as Wbar. Note that the short options on the wbar command will cause segfaults - it is necessary to use the long form for all of the options. I've corrected the included vlbar script, but anyone writing their own start script for wbar will need to make sure long options are used.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: M0E-lnx on August 10, 2010, 06:06:31 am
I have this installed, and doing a tail -f /var/log/messages, I just found out that it is constantly trying to get an IP address for eth0.
My LAN is set to DHCP from the router, and I have reserved the IP for this mac address, but I dont understand why it has to ask the router for an IP at a rate of 2 times per second. This is insane :(

No networking daemons running, X is not even running... I have disabled hal, any ideas how to stop it?
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on August 10, 2010, 08:02:08 am
I have this installed, and doing a tail -f /var/log/messages, I just found out that it is constantly trying to get an IP address for eth0.
My LAN is set to DHCP from the router, and I have reserved the IP for this mac address, but I dont understand why it has to ask the router for an IP at a rate of 2 times per second. This is insane :(

No networking daemons running, X is not even running... I have disabled hal, any ideas how to stop it?

I'm currently running with a wireless connection (I'll try wired tomorrow - not enough time at the moment), but I'm not seeing anything like that at all. Tail gives me this:

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Aug 10 15:25:31 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[2187]: wlan0: DUID = xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xxx:xx:xx:xx
Aug 10 15:25:31 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[2187]: wlan0: broadcasting for a lease
Aug 10 15:25:32 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[2187]: wlan0: offered 192.168.1.104 from 192.168.1.10
Aug 10 15:25:32 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[2187]: wlan0: checking 192.168.1.104 is available on attached networks
Aug 10 15:25:33 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[2187]: wlan0: leased 192.168.1.104 for 14400 seconds
Aug 10 15:25:33 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[2187]: wlan0: adding IP address 192.168.1.104/24
Aug 10 15:25:33 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[2187]: wlan0: adding default route via 192.168.1.1 metric 0
Aug 10 15:25:33 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[2187]: wlan0: adding route to 169.254.0.0/16 metric 0
Aug 10 15:25:33 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[2187]: wlan0: exiting
Aug 10 15:44:41 t-61vl7 -- MARK --

The only time I have seen that sort of behaviour was with the Thompson router that my new ISP provided. For some reason, it regarded one of my machines as on a static IP rather than dynamic (even though it had issued the dynamic in the first place....) and failed to respond to requests from the machine for lease renewal.   Since I switched to the Netgear router, I've not seen any repeat of that problem.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: M0E-lnx on August 10, 2010, 08:11:09 am
It's really weird, I have shut down the wicd daemon, and ran vasm to configure it as a static IP. But the only think that keeps it from doing that is killing the dhcpcd daemon.

I know I had killed it before, but it started again for some reason.. doing some more testing to see why. maybe someone in a wired connection could test and see if it happens there too
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on August 10, 2010, 02:03:18 pm
It's really weird, I have shut down the wicd daemon, and ran vasm to configure it as a static IP. But the only think that keeps it from doing that is killing the dhcpcd daemon.

I know I had killed it before, but it started again for some reason.. doing some more testing to see why. maybe someone in a wired connection could test and see if it happens there too

That is strange. I can get a cat5 connection to the laptop - I'll give it a try when I get home in the morning (I do love night shifts....). Let you know if it happens on my box.

Maybe you should install Wireshark and see what it shows in the way of network activity. The latest version is in the testing tree for VL7.0.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: retired1af on August 11, 2010, 03:39:20 pm
OK. Now that the notebook is back to normal.. Grrrrrrrrrr....

The installation does not recognize the USB mouse when the touchpad is active. As a result, you have a VERY touchy touchpad that does some very bad things when you really don't want it to. **sigh** (Wrote grub to the wrong @#$)(*&#$ drive, effectively trashing the Windows installation.)

All is back to being good again, but the lack of mouse support was rather puzzling.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on August 12, 2010, 12:02:40 pm
It's really weird, I have shut down the wicd daemon, and ran vasm to configure it as a static IP. But the only think that keeps it from doing that is killing the dhcpcd daemon.

I know I had killed it before, but it started again for some reason.. doing some more testing to see why. maybe someone in a wired connection could test and see if it happens there too

Finally got the chance to try a wired connection to the laptop. I don't see the same problem - this is what I'm seeing when checking messages:

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Aug 12 20:00:54 t-61vl7 /usr/sbin/gpm[1898]: Started gpm successfully. Entered daemon mode.
Aug 12 20:00:54 t-61vl7 kernel: CPUFREQ: Per core ondemand sysfs interface is deprecated - up_threshold
Aug 12 20:00:54 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1838]: eth0: checking 192.168.1.111 is available on attached networks
Aug 12 20:00:55 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1838]: eth0: leased 192.168.1.111 for 14400 seconds
Aug 12 20:00:55 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1838]: eth0: adding IP address 192.168.1.111/24
Aug 12 20:00:55 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1838]: eth0: adding default route via 192.168.1.1 metric 0
Aug 12 20:00:55 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1838]: eth0: adding route to 169.254.0.0/16 metric 0
Aug 12 20:00:55 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1838]: eth0: exiting
Aug 12 20:00:56 t-61vl7 acpid: client connected from 1951[0:0]
Aug 12 20:00:56 t-61vl7 acpid: 1 client rule loaded

However, if I run the notebook without a network connection, I'm getting this sort of thing:

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Aug 12 20:00:54 t-61vl7 /usr/sbin/gpm[1898]: Started gpm successfully. Entered daemon mode.
Aug 12 20:00:54 t-61vl7 kernel: CPUFREQ: Per core ondemand sysfs interface is deprecated - up_threshold
Aug 12 20:00:54 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1838]: eth0: checking 192.168.1.111 is available on attached networks
Aug 12 20:00:55 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1838]: eth0: leased 192.168.1.111 for 14400 seconds
Aug 12 20:00:55 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1838]: eth0: adding IP address 192.168.1.111/24
Aug 12 20:00:55 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1838]: eth0: adding default route via 192.168.1.1 metric 0
Aug 12 20:00:55 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1838]: eth0: adding route to 169.254.0.0/16 metric 0
Aug 12 20:00:55 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1838]: eth0: exiting
Aug 12 20:00:56 t-61vl7 acpid: client connected from 1951[0:0]
Aug 12 20:00:56 t-61vl7 acpid: 1 client rule loaded

That goes on and on until a network connection is finally established.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: M0E-lnx on August 12, 2010, 12:16:12 pm
I dont know what it is then... Mine enters an endless loop. The internet works, The only way I can explain the connection working is that the router has an IP reserved for the MAC address,  and that the requests are sent at a rate of 2 per second, so it may give the impression of a continious connection, but it's really not.

I managed to force it to stop  by killing the dhcpd daemon, and disabling all kinds of auto network setup in vasm... but it is indeed weird. maybe others should look out for this.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on August 12, 2010, 12:43:17 pm
I dont know what it is then... Mine enters an endless loop. The internet works, The only way I can explain the connection working is that the router has an IP reserved for the MAC address,  and that the requests are sent at a rate of 2 per second, so it may give the impression of a continious connection, but it's really not.

I managed to force it to stop  by killing the dhcpd daemon, and disabling all kinds of auto network setup in vasm... but it is indeed weird. maybe others should look out for this.

 :-[ Sorry, long shift and I missed pasting the correct listing. If I start the laptop without a network connection, I get something quite similar:

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Aug 11 22:40:29 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1835]: eth0: trying to use old lease in `/etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.info'
Aug 11 22:40:29 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1835]: eth0: probing for an IPV4LL address
Aug 11 22:40:30 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1835]: eth0: adding IP address 169.254.69.90/16
Aug 11 22:40:30 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1835]: eth0: exiting
Aug 11 22:40:51 t-61vl7 dhcpcd[1958]: eth0: adding IP address 169.254.69.90/16
Aug 11 22:41:33 t-61vl7 last message repeated 2 times
Aug 11 22:42:36 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times
Aug 11 22:43:18 t-61vl7 last message repeated 2 times
Aug 11 22:44:21 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times
Aug 11 22:45:24 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times
Aug 11 22:46:27 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times
Aug 11 22:47:30 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times
Aug 11 22:48:33 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times
Aug 11 22:49:36 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times
Aug 11 22:50:19 t-61vl7 last message repeated 2 times
Aug 11 22:51:22 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times
Aug 11 22:52:25 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times
Aug 11 22:53:28 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times
Aug 11 22:54:31 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times
Aug 11 22:55:34 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times
Aug 11 22:56:37 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times
Aug 11 22:57:19 t-61vl7 last message repeated 2 times
Aug 11 22:58:22 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times
Aug 11 22:59:25 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times
Aug 11 23:00:29 t-61vl7 last message repeated 3 times

On my machine, seems only to happen if there is no network connection.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: w2ibc on August 15, 2010, 04:47:47 pm
installed VL7 on virtualbox. only issue i had installing was creating user account. it seems that failed on me (not sure where to add it via xfce ether) had to log in as root :( but other then that it seems ok.

Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: prince on August 15, 2010, 09:52:43 pm
The 64-bit development seems to be ignored here.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: kc1di on August 17, 2010, 06:52:36 am
So far I have no go trying to install Alpha 2.1  -- the GUI installer freezes and the Text installer can't find the cdrom. guess I'll wait a bit Unless some has an answer to this problem.
Looking forward to VL 7 though.
Dave
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: w2ibc on August 17, 2010, 07:36:08 am
I got board, so I installed 7 without a desktop and installed KDE 3.5.10......  not bad, take a little polishing.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z82/ddog241/vl7-kde3510.png

^screen shot if interesting in looking  :P
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: Masta on August 17, 2010, 08:26:40 pm
The 64-bit development seems to be ignored here.
Huh?
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: prince on August 18, 2010, 06:20:51 am
That was a premature question about the 64 bit version, because the OS is still in development stage?
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on August 20, 2010, 01:08:52 pm
A few more packages for the alpha:

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/base-apps/ncdu-1.7-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/base-apps/spkg-1.0rc13-i586-1vl70.txz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/base-apps/synbak-1.3.2-noarch-1vl70.txz

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/judy-1.0.5-i586-1vl70.txz (dep for spkg)

http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/x-apps/freetype-2.4.2-i586-1vl70.txz

Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: Masta on August 22, 2010, 11:41:09 pm
That was a premature question about the 64 bit version, because the OS is still in development stage?

If you go here:
http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=8001.0
 you'll find the link to the VL-7 version.

 Note that the VL-6 version for 64bit was cancelled (also noted in that thread @ reply #12, by Vec, and again @reply #25 by GrannyGeek). This is due to the lengthy time spent on SOHO, plus the amount of developers at hand are very FEW... I cannot stress that enough. This means that we'll be moving on with VL-7 as soon as Final bugs are worked out for this 6.0 SOHO release. In order to get a timely release for VL-7, we have little choice but to skip the 6.0-64bit version and jump to the 7.0-64bit version. I give an apology, on behalf of the deloper team, to those who were looking forward to a 6.0 -64bit version. Please join us on the 7.0.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: kc1di on August 23, 2010, 02:09:15 pm
finally got it installed and working.
 :)
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: kc1di on August 23, 2010, 06:29:37 pm
I packaged filezilla-3.3.4.1 for VL -7.0 It's in my contrib if anyone wants to try it out.
make sure you have wxGTK-2.8.11 installed believe stretchedthin has built it and it's in testing.

Paul if it looks ok maybe you could move it to 7.0 testing.

Dave
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|-----handy-ruler------------------------------------------------------|
filezilla: filezilla (Fast FTP/SFTP client)
filezilla:
filezilla:  FileZilla is a fast and very versitile FTP transfer client
filezilla:
filezilla:
filezilla:
filezilla:
filezilla:
filezilla: License: GPL
NAME: Author:  FileZilla Team
filezilla: Website: http://filezilla-project.org/docs_development.php
filezilla:


#----------------------------------------
BUILDDATE: Tue Aug 24 01:18:49 UTC 2010
PACKAGER:  kc1di
HOST:      Linux 2.6.33.4-smp i686
DISTRO:    Vector Linux 7.0 CORE Alpha 2.1 built on JULY-19-2010
CFLAGS:    -O2 -march=i586 -mtune=i686
LDFLAGS:   
CONFIGURE:   $ ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-tinyxml=builtin --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --mandir=/usr/man --with-included-gettext --disable-debug --program-prefix= --program-suffix= --build=i486-slackware-linux


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DL >= 1.2.14-i586-2vl70
atk >= 1.30.0-i586-1vl70
cairo >= 1.8.10-i586-1vl70
cxxlibs >= 6.0.10-i486-1 | gcc-g++ >= 4.3.3-i586-5vl70
dbus >= 1.2.24-i586-1vl70
directfb >= 1.4.3-i586-2vl60
expat >= 2.0.1-i486-1
fontconfig >= 2.8.0-i586-1vl70
freetype >= 2.3.12-i586-1vl70
gcc >= 4.3.3-i586-5vl70
glib2 >= 2.24.0-i586-1vl70
glibc-solibs >= 2.11.1-i586-1vl70
gnutls >= 2.8.6-i586-1vl70
gtk+2 >= 2.20.0-i586-1vl70
libICE >= 1.0.6-i586-1vl70
libSM >= 1.1.1-i586-1vl70
libX11 >= 1.3.3-i586-1vl70
libXau >= 1.0.5-i586-1vl70
libXcomposite >= 0.4.1-i586-1vl70
libXcursor >= 1.1.10-i586-1vl70
libXdamage >= 1.1.2-i586-1vl70
libXdmcp >= 1.0.3-i586-1vl70
libXext >= 1.1-i586-1vl70
libXfixes >= 4.0.4-i586-1vl70
libXi >= 1.3-i586-1vl70
libXinerama >= 1.1-i586-1vl70
libXrandr >= 1.3.0-i586-1vl70
libXrender >= 0.9.5-i586-1vl70
libXxf86vm >= 1.1.0-i586-1vl70
libgcrypt >= 1.4.5-i586-1vl70
libgpg-error >= 1.7-i486-1
libidn >= 1.5-i486-1
libjpeg >= 8a-i586-1vl70
libpng >= 1.4.1-i586-2vl70
libtasn1 >= 2.6-i586-1vl70
libtiff >= 3.9.2-i586-2vl70
libxcb >= 1.6-i586-1vl70
pango >= 1.28.0-i586-1vl70
pixman >= 0.16.6-i586-1vl70
svgalib >= 1.9.25-i486-2
wxGTK >= 2.8.11-i586-1vl60
zlib >= 1.2.3-i486-2
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: toothandnail on August 23, 2010, 10:10:39 pm
I packaged filezilla-3.3.4.1 for VL -7.0 It's in my contrib if anyone wants to try it out.
make sure you have wxGTK-2.8.11 installed believe stretchedthin has built it and it's in testing.

Paul if it looks ok maybe you could move it to 7.0 testing.

Will do. I'm in the process of creating a real repo for both 6.0 SOHO and 7.0, but have hit a bit of a glitch. Hopefully should be working in a few days.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: stretchedthin on September 11, 2010, 02:39:08 pm
I was hoping someone else working on VL7.0-alpha could take a look at cdrecord.  I'm trying to build x-cdroast (which I've done) but it just tells me that the permisions for cdrecord are wrong and stops.  I've changed the group to root and the permisions to 777 but still no go.
Just to test that the problem was not x-cdroast I downloaded a java cd burning app called jcdwriter.  It has the same problem.
Any ideas?
Ken
edit >> Seems the problem is the way wodim now reports to stderr instead of stdout.  The two packages I tried still try to read from stdout.  Could find no solution to problem so I built xfburn instead. Works well so case closed for now.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: M0E-lnx on September 13, 2010, 09:01:37 am
I think they should be 755 not 777
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: kc1di on September 17, 2010, 06:44:56 pm
I have packaged Gimp 2.6.10 against VL-7.0 Alpha 2.1 , but in order to get it to build had to depreciate package babl from the one that ships with VL-7.0 to version 0.0.22-i586-1vl60 which is the package currently in Vl-6.0 Repro.  I don't know why it won't build against the new package of babl.  question is should I repackage babl 0.0.22 for vl-7.0 or should I static build the old one and then package gimp with that?

Thoughts?
Dave
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: vector on September 17, 2010, 07:36:01 pm
Quote
question is should I repackage babl 0.0.22 for vl-7.0 or should I static build the old one and then package gimp with that?

Thoughts?
Dave,
We don't want to go backwards if gimp needs an earlier version of babl just package that.

Thanks,
Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: Pita on September 17, 2010, 08:39:52 pm
I just spent more than an hour unsuccessfully trying to get my printers to print.

One is an Epson-24-pin and one is a Brother DCP-385C.

lpq tells my either one printer is ready to print, shows a print queue yet they just
will not start printing.

cups status says scheduler is running, however, in vasm it says cups is not running.
Saying yes start it it gives an error that it cannot find libpcap.so.? or similar.
I installed libpcap and nothing changed, printers will not print.

in cups http://localhost:631/printers/ all looks properly set, however, even
the test page will not print, just putting it into the queue job.

Any suggestions how to get my printers working?
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: kc1di on September 18, 2010, 03:06:39 am
Thanks Vector,
will do.


Dave
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: kc1di on September 18, 2010, 11:46:18 am

Dave,
We don't want to go backwards if gimp needs an earlier version of babl just package that.

Thanks,
Vec

Vec,

Found the problem.  babl is version 0.1.2 and gegl on the iso is version 0.0.22 They don't work together.  packaged gegl 0.1.2 and installed it gmip now builds fine will up load both packages later today.

Dave  :)
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: Pita on September 19, 2010, 09:12:45 pm
I just spent more than an hour unsuccessfully trying to get my printers to print.

One is an Epson-24-pin and one is a Brother DCP-385C.

lpq tells my either one printer is ready to print, shows a print queue yet they just
will not start printing.

cups status says scheduler is running, however, in vasm it says cups is not running.
Saying yes start it it gives an error that it cannot find libpcap.so.? or similar.
I installed libpcap and nothing changed, printers will not print.

in cups http://localhost:631/printers/ all looks properly set, however, even
the test page will not print, just putting it into the queue job.

Any suggestions how to get my printers working?

After further fumbling I was able today to print tests pages with both printers.
Trying to print others I get the error: "Failed to read side-channel request."
and nothing shows in the print queue.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 7.0 CORE ALPHA 2
Post by: stretchedthin on September 21, 2010, 02:30:03 pm
I notice qt in http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/ (http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/testing/libs/) is just called  qt-4.6.2_2d3d3e5-i586-3vl70, where previously in vl6.0 is was qt4-4.?.?....  Should this be rebuilt and renamed to qt4 again to allow inclusion of qt-3 if needed?