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Title: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: vector on November 22, 2010, 01:48:01 pm
We have put up another alpha release for testing. We think this should be the last alpha and after testing and some discussion we should have the first beta of VL std 7.0 in short order. This release has a brand new kernel (2.6.35.7) that should fix the no usb mouse and keyboard in the installer issue that was found with the last release. Pygtk was rebuilt with numpy support, scribus was added, brasero was replaced with xfburn, Exaile was added which replaces smplayer, updated flashplayer and Opera to their latest, glx-dock is there with some working applets but is not turned on by default and lastly since no one seemed very pleased with the original gtk2 theme choice thats been changed too. We fixed a few other things under the hood like some vasm breakage and a few broken packages (cdparanoia for one). So lets give this a good solid test and please post any breakage found as well what maybe should be changed (package mix, theme etc) before we get into the beta waters. Here is the link to the iso:
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/iso-test/VL7.0-CORE-ALPHA-3.5.iso

md5sum:
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/iso-test/ALPHA-3.5.md5sum

Happy testing and have fun!!

Cheers,
Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: roarde on November 22, 2010, 06:04:03 pm
How 'bout an md5sum?
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: vector on November 22, 2010, 06:17:31 pm
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How 'bout an md5sum?
Thanks for the reminder! I put it in the previous post.

Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: M0E-lnx on November 23, 2010, 06:11:42 am
Did you upgrade the cmake package?
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: vector on November 23, 2010, 01:38:59 pm
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Did you upgrade the cmake package?
yes its now 2.8.1 I believe.

Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: toothandnail on November 23, 2010, 06:14:49 pm
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Did you upgrade the cmake package?
yes its now 2.8.1 I believe.

Vec

I built 2.82 a while ago - should be in the vl7 testing repo (if you can get to it....).

I've had no luck with the new alpha - the install routine can't find my CD at all. I'll have to see if I can get some space on a partition and try installing from the iso itself. Its on the wrong machine at the moment though.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: stretchedthin on November 23, 2010, 11:43:32 pm
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I've had no luck with the new alpha - the install routine can't find my CD at all. I'll have to see if I can get some space on a partition and try installing from the iso itself. Its on the wrong machine at the moment though.

Paul.


Same experience here with  two machines that can't find the cd.  The third machine with older intel video graphics just goes blank right after the "Hold on Tight testing Graphics bit"
Ken
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: Pita on November 24, 2010, 05:07:34 pm
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Same experience here with  two machines that can't find the cd.  The third machine with older intel video graphics just goes blank right after the "Hold on Tight testing Graphics bit"
Ken

That exactly happens on the HP2133 Mini-Note. It even freezes. That should have not such an old video graphic?

No problem on my old desktop PC. And as usual my printers cannot be found
unlike in VL6SOHO. Doing alsaconf it claims it cannot find my graphic card, however, booting with webcam
unplugged alsamixer can be opened.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: vector on November 24, 2010, 08:30:33 pm
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Same experience here with  two machines that can't find the cd.
Well I had not pretested for the CD as I always just use the iso image to install but I broke down and burnt a cd and as all of you reported no cd was found...........:(. However, the good news is I found the problem seems with new kernels you need a newer udev system than we had been using and that of course also requires a newer glibc then was in the installer. So after updating udev and glibc guess what the cd was found. Hopefully the glibc update does not mess anything else up but I will upload a revised 3.5 alpha with new installer updates a bit later prolly be alpha-3.5.1. The reported problem with intel graphics may well be a kernel problem but I will tackle that later. You can still install alpha 3.5 if you keep a copy of the iso image on a partition that you are not going to install too the installer will pick that up.

Cheers,
Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: vector on November 24, 2010, 11:13:02 pm
alrighty vl7-core-alpha-3.5.1 is up cd installs should work now. I have links to both the full iso and an xdelta patch. Those of you familiar with xdelta prolly know the drill.......dl the patch then do xdelta patch nameofpatchfile (with the patch file being in the same folder as the original iso to be patched). Good luck and happy thanksgiving to all of you living in the USofA.
files:
the patch
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/iso-test/VL7.0-CORE-ALPHA3.5to3.5.1.delta
the full iso
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/iso-test/VL7.0-CORE-ALPHA-3.5.1.iso

good luck let me know how it goes!!

Cheers,
Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: MikeCindi on November 25, 2010, 08:24:55 am
Thanks for the "Happy Thanksgiving" and the update.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: toothandnail on November 25, 2010, 03:16:56 pm
alrighty vl7-core-alpha-3.5.1 is up cd installs should work now. I have links to both the full iso and an xdelta patch. Those of you familiar with xdelta prolly know the drill.......dl the patch then do xdelta patch nameofpatchfile (with the patch file being in the same folder as the original iso to be patched). Good luck and happy thanksgiving to all of you living in the USofA.
files:
the patch
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/iso-test/VL7.0-CORE-ALPHA3.5to3.5.1.delta
the full iso
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/iso-test/VL7.0-CORE-ALPHA-3.5.1.iso

good luck let me know how it goes!!

Cheers,
Vec

Install went fine this time. Looks nice. One problem - no wireless drivers are loading, so no network connection.

Hardware is as below:

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03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Con
nection (rev 61)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 1011
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 31
Memory at df3fe000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 3
Capabilities: [d0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Capabilities: [e0] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
Capabilities: [140] Device Serial Number 00-21-5c-ff-ff-56-fd-65
Kernel driver in use: iwlagn
Kernel modules: iwlagn

(the driver listing is from Salix).

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: vincent2 on November 26, 2010, 01:39:55 am
bonjour!

Would rt2500 usb wifi card  work at wpa mode under vl7 core alpha 3.5.1 ?
if worked, i 'd make test install for daily work...
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 27, 2010, 06:03:45 pm
I had the same "can't find CD" problem with a3.5, though I did manage to get the CD recognized and the alpha installed after some flailing.

I had no CD recognition problems with a3.5.1. Big problem is that LILO cannot boot the other OSes on the computer (Windows 98SE, Windows XP SP3, VL6 Light, VL6 Standard, VL6 SOHO rc3, VL6 SOHO final free version, VL6 SOHO Deluxe). I think this is due to the partitions being identified as /dev/hdax, /dev/hdbx, /dev/hdex in earlier versions of VL and being identified as /dev/sdax, /dev/sdbx, etc., in VL7. I have LILO on floppy disks, so I have a floppy for VL7 and another for earlier VectorLinuxes. I had this problem with an earlier alpha and I think others have also reported it.

We spent a few days with our daughter's family for Thanksgiving, so I haven't had a chance to do much testing. My video, sound, and wired network are working. I'll report anything I find that's broken.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: vector on November 28, 2010, 12:10:01 am
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Would rt2500 usb wifi card  work at wpa mode under vl7 core alpha 3.5.1 ?
if worked, i 'd make test install for daily work...
Vincent it is supposed too so your testing would be great help to see if it does.
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One problem - no wireless drivers are loading, so no network connection.
Paul I think incomplete firmware pkg I sent you a pm to try a new and improved version let me know if it works

 
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My video, sound, and wired network are working. I'll report anything I find that's broken.
Thank you Granny!!

Folks I need more people to test I know a lot of you are recovering from the thanksgiving holiday but believe me this alpha will not harm your computer in anyway so please jump in!!!

Thanks,
Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: Murdock on November 28, 2010, 02:04:10 am
Vec. Burning a cd .....and something else  ;D at the moment.
My main interests are multi function on a HP j4660 all in one and Skype. I'll let you know later in the day.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: Lyn on November 28, 2010, 02:32:52 am
I had the same problems with recognising any other partitions, they are with the set up, but don't show up on the Grub menu.  But it has great difficulty in setting up the video, I have a basic onboard nvidia graphic chip.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: nightflier on November 28, 2010, 06:24:49 am
I burned 3.5 before leaving on a trip with a weekend layover. Was bummed when it didn't find the CD. Fortunately, the hotel internet connection is fast. Downloaded 3.5.1 in 6 min 30 seconds!  ;D

Boot from 3.5 CD and full install from 3.5.1 iso went without any problems. Posting from it now.
Main issue encountered: No wireless. I have a Linksys PCMCIA card with Broadcomm chipset:
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0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) When trying to bring it up I get error:
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root:# ifconfig wlan0 up
SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
The b43 module is loaded according to lsmod. Device works in VL6.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: toothandnail on November 28, 2010, 12:56:51 pm

Paul I think incomplete firmware pkg I sent you a pm to try a new and improved version let me know if it works

 :( 'Fraid not. Still no sign of the wireless activity LED coming up, and wicd can't see any wireless networks.

Looking at the loaded modules, everything seems to be there (at least, compared to a working set). The wicd daemon is starting. I did find that /etc/rc.d/rc.wireless was not executable, whereas it is in VL6.0 light. Tried making it executable, but the problem is still there.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: nightflier on November 28, 2010, 02:51:55 pm
Having mentioned the important issue in my above post.. on to some observations:

GRUB menu: Only the selected line is visible. Pressing up/down arrow keys reveals the other options, but one can only see one at the time, and it is not obvious that they are there.

Splash screen: Just after the "udev" message, it drops to text mode (but still framebuffer), then returns to graphical when loading GDM. This is with an Intel Mobile integrated graphics card.

X: I chose default (no xorg.conf). No touchpad edge scrolling. Running vxconf enabled it.

Unless I remove the keycode lines in ~./Xmodmap, some of my keys (PgDn, Down arrow) do not act as I expect them to.

Cairo dock: When mousing over and getting "zoom", the original (smaller size one) stays visible in the background, resulting in a double image.

Inserting a USB stick results in automount.. good. Right-clicking desktop icon and selecting "unmount" works, but I'd prefer to see the icon disappear or change, indicating that it's safe to remove. Or, add a "safely remove" option.

Multimedia > Mixer has no icon.

Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: vector on November 28, 2010, 08:19:45 pm
toothandnail and nightflier would you run iwconfig in a terminal see if you guys are getting any kind of wireless interface or not. Trying to determine if this is a kernel problem or a tools problem i.e wicd.

Thanks,
Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: stretchedthin on November 28, 2010, 11:30:40 pm
Tried installing over a previous installation, reformating to ext4 over what was previously a ext4 formated install of soho6.0.  When I got to the user set-up section I was told that my username already existed.  So I thought I errored and tried it again.  This time choosing ext3.  Once again the installation failed to format the partition for the new install.  So I tried again, this time launching into gparted where I choose the partition and attempted to change it to ext3.  It failed with this error...
mkfs.ext3: error while loading shared libraries: libcom_err.so.2: cannot open shared oject file: NO such file or directory.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: toothandnail on November 28, 2010, 11:53:34 pm
Cairo dock: When mousing over and getting "zoom", the original (smaller size one) stays visible in the background, resulting in a double image.

:) I suspect you'll find its a lot more than a double image....

The problem is how Cairo Dock interacts with Xfce. It has its own autostart mechanisim, If Xfce is exited with the 'save session for future logins' box ticked, the next time you log into the system, two copies of Cairo Dock will start, and the next time, three copies....  Your best bet is to righ click on Cairo Dock, select quit and keep doing that until all copies are closed, then log out with the 'save' box ticked. On the next and subsequent logouts, make sure the 'save' box is unticked.

Must admit, while Cairo Dock is very pretty and does some pretty fancy things, I would much rather use Wbar - simple, light and functional....

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: toothandnail on November 28, 2010, 11:54:37 pm
toothandnail and nightflier would you run iwconfig in a terminal see if you guys are getting any kind of wireless interface or not. Trying to determine if this is a kernel problem or a tools problem i.e wicd.

Thanks,
Vec


As requested:

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root:# iwconfig
lo        no wireless extensions.

eth0      no wireless extensions.

wlan0     IEEE 802.11abgn  ESSID:off/any 
          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=0 dBm   
          Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Encryption key:off
          Power Management:off

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: vector on November 29, 2010, 12:51:44 am
paul, can you try in a terminal dhcpcd wlan0 see if you get any response.

thanks,
Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: vector on November 29, 2010, 01:02:24 am
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mkfs.ext3: error while loading shared libraries: libcom_err.so.2: cannot open shared oject file: NO such file or directory.
Stretchedthin, I found that too got it fixed will be done in next release should be quick

Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: toothandnail on November 29, 2010, 01:16:55 am
paul, can you try in a terminal dhcpcd wlan0 see if you get any response.

thanks,
Vec

As requested:

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root:# dhcpcd wlan0
err, wlan0: timed out
err, wlan0: lease information file `/etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-wlan0.info' does not exist
warn, wlan0: using IPV4LL address 169.254.137.83

That does bring up the wireless LED, but wicd still can't see any wireless networks.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: toothandnail on November 29, 2010, 06:00:59 am
Hmm. I wondered if I might have been affected by the installer failing to format the partition, I've just reinstalled the alpha. I first wiped the partition from a Salix boot, then created a new ext4 file system. Then installed.

Didn't make any difference to the wireless problem. But it did bring up another problem - in the final stages of the install, when I tried to select the keyboard layout for the console, it went into an endless loop. I had to cancel in order to break the loop, and I've been left with the default US layout for console.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: nightflier on November 29, 2010, 07:40:23 am
toothandnail and nightflier would you run iwconfig in a terminal see if you guys are getting any kind of wireless interface or not. Trying to determine if this is a kernel problem or a tools problem i.e wicd.

Wicd sees no wireless networks. I quit wicd-client and killed wicd, then:

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root:# iwconfig
lo        no wireless extensions.

eth0      no wireless extensions.

wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:"linksys" 
          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=0 dBm   
          Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Encryption key:off
          Power Management:off

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root:# ifconfig wlan0 up
SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory

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root:# dhcpcd wlan0
err, wlan0: ioctl SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory

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root:# lsmod | grep b43
b43                   162019  0
mac80211              170573  1 b43
cfg80211              123341  2 b43,mac80211
ssb                    41186  1 b43
mmc_core               49129  2 b43,ssb
pcmcia                 32408  2 b43,ssb
led_class               1883  1 b43
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: nightflier on November 29, 2010, 07:42:10 am
:) I suspect you'll find its a lot more than a double image....

You're right, there were 4 or 5 of them!  :o
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: newt on November 29, 2010, 09:22:02 am
nightflier (perhaps Paul too),

I just recently experimented with a different distro on my laptop and had a VERY similar situation as your wireless issues. I also have a broadcom bcm4306 wireless chipset (linksys pcmcia card). As it turned out, even though the b43 driver was included and loaded with the new distro, the actual lower-level device drivers that are utilized by b43 were not. The simple solution was to simply copy them over from a VL6Std installation on the same system - then unload and reload b43.

cp -dr /mnt/vl6std/lib/firmware/b43* /lib/firmware/
cp /mnt/vl6std/lib/firmware/bcm* /lib/firmware/
rmmod b43
modprobe b43

Good news: My wireless was actually working.
Bad news: I got terrible speeds in the new distro (kernel 2.6.35.x). As a comparison, using vl6std I normally get 150kb/sec wirelessly and the new distro only acheives ~1-9kb/sec (painfully slow).

I then used a slackbuild to build new lower-level drivers for the kernel, removed the vl6std drivers, installed the newly compiled drivers, reloaded b43. Even though my wireless continues to work and the speeds have been improved, they are still in the "unacceptable" range (~16-30kb/sec).
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: nightflier on November 29, 2010, 10:21:39 am
@newt: good tip.

There were no b43* nor bcm* files or directories in /var/lib. I only found BCM-LEGAL.txt, BCM2033-MD.hex and BCM2033-FW.bin. Copying the files from my VL6 install did bring the card to life.  :)

I don't have a good signal to test with here at the hotel, will see when I get back home.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: stretchedthin on November 29, 2010, 06:36:00 pm
toothandnail and nightflier would you run iwconfig in a terminal see if you guys are getting any kind of wireless interface or not. Trying to determine if this is a kernel problem or a tools problem i.e wicd.

Wicd sees no wireless networks. I quit wicd-client and killed wicd, then:

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root:# iwconfig
lo        no wireless extensions.

eth0      no wireless extensions.

wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:"linksys" 
          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=0 dBm   
          Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Encryption key:off
          Power Management:off

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root:# ifconfig wlan0 up
SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory

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root:# dhcpcd wlan0
err, wlan0: ioctl SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory

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root:# lsmod | grep b43
b43                   162019  0
mac80211              170573  1 b43
cfg80211              123341  2 b43,mac80211
ssb                    41186  1 b43
mmc_core               49129  2 b43,ssb
pcmcia                 32408  2 b43,ssb
led_class               1883  1 b43

I have a Zydas zd1211 device (zd1211rw).  I can't get wireless internet as well, and this device has never failed me on any distro.
iwconfig show...
lo      no wirless extensions.
eth0  no wireless extensions
wlan0 IEEE.802.11bg ESSID:off/any
          Mode:Managed Access Poijnt:  Not-Associated Tx-Power=0 dBm
          Retry long limit:7  RTS thr:off    Fragment thr:off
          Encryption Key:off
          Power Management:off

 ifconfig wlan0 up
gets the same as quoted above.

dhcpcd wlan0
gets the same as quoted above.

lsmod | grep 1211
results in...
zd1211rw                                40442   0
mac80211                               170573 1 zd1211rw
cfg80211                                 123341 2 zd1211rw,mac80211
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: vector on November 29, 2010, 10:14:30 pm
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I have a Zydas zd1211 device (zd1211rw).  I can't get wireless internet as well, and this device has never failed me on any distro.
This is a firmware package problem. I was under the impression that all the firmware needed for the kernel driver modules was in the kernel source tree now. I did some research after the wireless problems occured and that is not true..............:( Next release will have an updated firmware package that has all the missing blobs. Thanks for testing this alpha would not have known otherwise...............:)

Cheers,
Vec

ps try installing this package see if wireless goes now:
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-6.0/packages/drivers/firmware-1.1-noarch-2vl60.tlz
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: stretchedthin on November 29, 2010, 10:47:04 pm
Nice, installed firmware and was up and running without even a reboot. Good signal as well. Thanks. ;D
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: toothandnail on November 30, 2010, 07:05:39 am
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I have a Zydas zd1211 device (zd1211rw).  I can't get wireless internet as well, and this device has never failed me on any distro.
This is a firmware package problem. I was under the impression that all the firmware needed for the kernel driver modules was in the kernel source tree now. I did some research after the wireless problems occured and that is not true..............:( Next release will have an updated firmware package that has all the missing blobs. Thanks for testing this alpha would not have known otherwise...............:)

Cheers,
Vec

ps try installing this package see if wireless goes now:
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-6.0/packages/drivers/firmware-1.1-noarch-2vl60.tlz


:( Still no help here - no wireless networks found.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: nightflier on November 30, 2010, 10:38:22 am
Back home, testing b43 wireless. Works well, but a little slower than under VL6.
Using scp, I see transfer speeds of about 2.1 MB/s in VL7, vs. 2.5 in VL6.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: nightflier on November 30, 2010, 10:51:54 am
When enabling firewall (vasm > service > srvset ..), it cuts off wireless network connectivity.
Wired network works with firewall enabled.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 30, 2010, 02:01:15 pm
I was able to do more testing today. I installed SoftMaker Office (third party), which went fine. I played some music with Exaile. After it played for several minutes, Exaile just disappeared and playing stopped. I got a message that said it was busy and did I want to terminate. I clicked on Yes and it was gone. I haven't tried again. I was using Firefox and Midnight Commander at the time this happened. I then continued playing the music with MPlayer and it didn't terminate, but there was a lot of delaying and short interruptions. I then switched to Gnome MPlayer, and it was much better, played smoothly without interruptions. However, TextMaker (from SoftMaker Office) really slowed down while I was playing music. I had TextMaker open to a new document with nothing in it and had a very small database running at the same time (plus Gnome Player, Firefox, and Midnight Commander).

VL7 a3.5.1 feels more sluggish to me than VL6 SOHO Deluxe running XFce. The one time I ran KDE4 for a few minutes on this computer, it was so slow as to be virtually unusable. XFce runs great, however. I don't know if VL7 is in need of tweaking or it's just that this old Celeron 1.3 GHz desktop is finally being outclassed by software.

I don't have wireless on this computer, so I can't report on that. My wired network is fine and set up easily, as usual. Yesterday I installed two printers with no problems.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 02, 2010, 02:24:35 pm
I'm writing this from Firefox on VL7 a3.5.1. Things are going well.

I downloaded the source for the just-released Scribus 1.3.9 and compiled and installed it for a3.5.1. Very easy--I did cmake, make, make install and put the whole thing in my home directory as I didn't want to wipe out or affect Scribus 1.3.8 that comes with VL7. I had no missing dependencies to fetch before compiling. I copied my home directory for Scribus 1.3.9 to my other desktop computer that uses VL6 SOHO Deluxe and it's running okay so far. I was missing about three needed libraries, but I just copied them from /usr/lib over to that computer and it's no longer complaining.

I copied tuxcards from another partition and as usual, it was missing a library or two. I simply copied them over and it's running fine now.

I'm now working on an important Christmas project (our greeting card) in a3.5.1 and both Gimp and Scribus are doing very well. I'm not finding the slowness I experienced the other day. (My test computer is the 1.3 GHz Celeron desktop, which of course is no speed demon.)

I can't think of anything else at the moment.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: toothandnail on December 03, 2010, 02:14:36 am
Latest brings up the wireless LED, but I've still no network - Wicd won't run.

When I log in, I get a prompt that Wicd requires root access. Enter the root password and I get an error:

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Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface.  Check the wicd log for
error messages.

Checking the Wicd log, I can't see the cause. Maybe someone else can spot the cause:

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2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: ---------------------------
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: wicd initializing...
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: ---------------------------
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: wicd is version 1.7.1b2 565
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: setting backend to external
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: trying to load backend external
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: successfully loaded backend external
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: trying to load backend external
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: successfully loaded backend external
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: Automatically detected wireless interface wlan0
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: setting wireless interface wlan0
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: automatically detected wired interface eth0
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: setting wired interface eth0
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: setting wpa driver wext
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: setting use global dns to False
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: setting global dns
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: global dns servers are None None None
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: domain is None
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: search domain is None
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: setting automatically reconnect when connection drops True
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: Setting dhcp client to 2
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: Wireless configuration file found...
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: Wired configuration file found...
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: chmoding configuration files 0600...
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: chowning configuration files root:root...
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: Using wireless interface...wlan0
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: Using wired interface...eth0
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: Traceback (most recent call last):
2010/12/03 10:12:18 ::   File "/usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py", line 1843, in <module>
2010/12/03 10:12:18 ::     main(sys.argv)
2010/12/03 10:12:18 ::   File "/usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py", line 1811, in main
2010/12/03 10:12:18 ::     shell=False, close_fds=True).pid
2010/12/03 10:12:18 ::   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.py", line 623, in __init__
2010/12/03 10:12:18 ::     errread, errwrite)
2010/12/03 10:12:18 ::   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.py", line 1141, in _execute_child
2010/12/03 10:12:18 ::     raise child_exception
2010/12/03 10:12:18 :: AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'rfind'

Getting closer...

On another matter, keyboard selection is broken, again. I've now ended up with the US layout instead of the UK layout in X.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: stretchedthin on December 03, 2010, 09:02:40 am
If I leave the screensaver on random, the computer will be locked up by morning.  Not sure which screensaver is causing the problem or if it is OpenGL related. Maybe someone else has noticed this?
When we get to the release candidate stage maybe the random feature can be turned off, so a new user does not experience the problem and imagine the worst.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 03, 2010, 06:12:16 pm
When I test a release, I like to add all the programs I need for day-to-day use. Scribus 1.3.9, which I compiled yesterday, is working well. I've been using Gimp a lot, too, and it seems solid and is surprisingly quick on this old 1.3 GHz Celeron. Today I added the latest Wine from the VL6 repo. All is fine. I also added Inkscape from the VL6 repo. LOTS of missing libraries, but I copied them from my VL6 SOHO Deluxe partition on the same computer. I didn't overwrite any existing libraries, but I did make symlinks to files already in the VL7 /usr/lib. I get a lot of error messages when starting Inkscape, but the program loads and looks like it will work--I haven't had time to test it yet beyond making sure it starts.

I added Adobe Reader 9.4; no problems.

Did I mention that both my scanners are working?
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: Andy Price on December 04, 2010, 07:37:19 am
Is there an md5 for Alpha 3.51? I've got lots of problems with the install and want to be sure I've got a good download and burn before reporting them.
Cheers
Andy
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: toothandnail on December 04, 2010, 08:28:16 am
Is there an md5 for Alpha 3.51? I've got lots of problems with the install and want to be sure I've got a good download and burn before reporting them.
Cheers
Andy

Generated from my copy (install worked ok for me...):

5b65f688a07ff005b2b1a210c7820ebc  VL7.0-CORE-ALPHA-3.5.1.iso

I had problems with wireless, plus the install had a few other oddities, but it did work, so I guess the md5sum should be correct.

Paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 04, 2010, 09:12:33 pm
Exaile consistently terminates after playing a music file for a very short time.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: Andy Price on December 04, 2010, 09:19:44 pm
Thanks for the MD5 toothandnail, now I know my download was ok. I'll try another burn and reinstall.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: vector on December 04, 2010, 10:20:13 pm
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Exaile consistently terminates after playing a music file for a very short time.
Granny could you be more specific as to the type of music file? I have run exaile for hours playing podcast streaming radio stations with no problem. Maybe try running exaile from the terminal and when it quits might give you an error message that you can share.

Cheers,
Vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: Lyn on December 05, 2010, 01:08:51 am
Right downloaded alpha-3.6 (saw it on the distrowatch page)

Installed without an xorg file - gave me a usable display but a large amount of black around the window to the left and right - fixed by altering my monitor settings.  Also does not pick up the United Kingdom local - so stuck with an American keyboard. 
Other than that so far so good.
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 05, 2010, 10:06:02 pm
Quote
Exaile consistently terminates after playing a music file for a very short time.
Granny could you be more specific as to the type of music file? I have run exaile for hours playing podcast streaming radio stations with no problem. Maybe try running exaile from the terminal and when it quits might give you an error message that you can share.

I ran Exaile today from the command line, so of course the termination didn't happen.<g> I played the stream from kusc.org for an hour. Everything was fine. Then I played some .mp3 music from my computer for a couple of hours. No problems with that, either.

I will continue testing to see if I can trigger the disappearance. Perhaps it's an interaction with some other program that I didn't use today, or maybe the ever-responsible gremlins.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 05, 2010, 10:09:44 pm
If I leave the screensaver on random, the computer will be locked up by morning.  Not sure which screensaver is causing the problem or if it is OpenGL related. Maybe someone else has noticed this?
When we get to the release candidate stage maybe the random feature can be turned off, so a new user does not experience the problem and imagine the worst.

This appears to have happened to me overnight. I left the computer on all night but in the morning, neither the keyboard nor mouse responded and I had to turn off the computer.

I turn off the monitor when I won't be using the computer for a while, but of course the screensaver will still run according to its settings.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux Core-Alpha-3.5 is up for testing
Post by: Andy Price on December 06, 2010, 08:06:22 pm
A few observations, some new and some confirming what others have found.

Tried to do a text-based install but the installer couldn't find the CD on any of the three PCs I tested (P3 and P4 with IDE drives) though 6.0 Gold could find the CD on them all. So in the end I installed using the GUI installer which found the CD.

I had trouble using the partitions created in GParted though, the installer refused to mount them. It wouldn't accept partitions made in cfdisk either and I ended up creating partitions using a DOS-based version of Partition Magic which were accepted OK. Strange. I also got a message saying that my user name already exisited when trying to install over an existing installation, as if the partitions were not being reformatted by the installer.

For the first install I used grub, which is the default, but when I rebooted I got a message saying something like "You need to load the kernel first" and couldn't get any further. Not being a grubber I reinstalled and chose lilo, which worked OK.

My video card wasn't set up right (nVidia GeForce4) and I got the "System has no X clients" message and ended up in an xterm session. I logged into the TUI and tried to set up X using vxconf and it worked one time but not another. Maybe that's just me. I re-ran vxconf and chose Vesa so that I could carry on testing.

Got on the internet easily using the NIC (I've no wireless) and installed a few packages using Gslapt: firefox, thunderbird, grsync, nano, wine, xarchiver. All went ok except no menu icon for Xarchiver. Audacity is in the repos but wouldn't install as it has a missing dependency: needs pixman>=0.18.2 but version installed is 0.16.6.

Finally I compiled easytag and keepassx from source and installed truecrypt from its own installer. No problems with them.

I haven't used the system too much yet, but it's looking pretty good so far.
Andy