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Title: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Masta on June 21, 2011, 12:21:19 am
  Please post bug reports, suggestions, and comments for VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 and 7.0 RC2 LIVECD here.  Thanks...

Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: pierce.jason on June 21, 2011, 12:27:24 am
Any bugs with specific details ( or feature requests ), can also be posted to the bugtracker system at http://vlcore.vectorlinux.com/trac/vlcore/newticket .

The VLCore sub-site requires separate registration for the bugtracker system.

Developers will be happy to assist you with discovering the circumstances and details that cause your bug.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: vincent2 on June 21, 2011, 02:51:35 am
Bonjour!

in Rc2 ,
How about support to ar9271 based USB wifi card(ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n)?
does RC2 kernel has builtin driver to "ath9k_htc"?
in addition,  would TNT2 work with nvidia legacy driver under RC2?

abien tot
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: monfen on June 21, 2011, 12:30:13 pm
I have downloaded the VL7.0-STD-LIVE-RC2, burned it to DVD+RW media and installed from it with no problems.

While booting to the installed system the start-up status messages were not cleared automatically and every new one putted itself on top of the last one.

"The system could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface." I have tried to start manually the wicd internet connection manager but with no success. (When playing with the live-cd the internet connection had been set up automatically)

When changed the icon theme to Tango half of the system icons disappeared.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Dani Filth on June 21, 2011, 07:40:49 pm
I encountered the same problem with wicd as monfen mentioned above. Live Installation went smoothly, but first boot wicd failed to start, I had to close wicd in tray first, then as root, run "wicd-client" and wicd loaded up successfully in tray.

And, after Live installing, the system auto login with the regular "new user" at next boot w/o asking for login credentials.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on June 21, 2011, 09:07:45 pm
VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2-STD

On HP-2133 Mini-Note the GUI Installer is useless. It cannot be read since
characters and small windows  flow into each other. Apparently it does not
get the correct resolution unlike VL7-LIGHT.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: hata_ph on June 21, 2011, 11:09:23 pm
VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2-STD

On HP-2133 Mini-Note the GUI Installer is useless. It cannot be read since
characters and small windows  flow into each other. Apparently it does not
get the correct resolution unlike VL7-LIGHT.

Is this your netbook?

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4352
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Andy Price on June 22, 2011, 12:31:08 am
A small problem during installation using the GUI installer. When asked where to mount my partitions I selected swap, root and home ok, then when I chose "other" for my fourth partition the installer crashed and I had to reboot. I'm not sure what choices "other" gives in any case, but I wanted to use my fourth partition for making an image of the root drive.
Andy
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: j.a.watson on June 22, 2011, 02:30:18 am
I have installed RC2 on a Lenovo S10-3s, and had a problem with the installation process.  When it gets to the step where it wants to set the password for the System Administration Account, the window containing the warning about not leaving the password blank, and I assume then containing the input areas for the password, is too small to display everything and there is no scroll bar on it.  I tried everything I could think of and could not either enter the password or get past that step, so I eventually ended up Quitting the installation process at that point.  Fortunately, the installation had completed sufficiently that the system would boot and was usable anyway.

Overall I have a very good impression of this release.  It appears to have gotten the Broadcom 4313 wireless network adapter correct, with the brcm80211 driver, which is a pretty good trick with distributions so far (Fedora still doesn't get it).  It also appears to get the Synaptics ClickPad touchpad completely right, including left and right buttons, tapping and click-drag operation, and that is a very good trick because the ClickPad is a royal pain with most Linux distributions.  I had a problem getting the German keyboard defined during installation, but that might have been operator error, I will try it again when I install on my next system.

Thanks and congratulations on producing a good release.

jw
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on June 22, 2011, 03:56:17 pm
I installed on the Sempron computer and am writing this from it. Installation was flawless. For the first time, I was able to let the installer autoconfig its resolution. On earlier releases, I'd lose the monitor if I didn't choose 1024x768. The monitor on this computer is 1600x1200 and on the other desktop it's 1280x1024.

So far everything has worked fine, but the latest versions of various softwares aren't included in the ISO. For example, Scribus on the ISO is 1.3.9 but that is somewhat old; Scribus 1.4 RC4 is the latest, I think. SeaMonkey in the repos is 2.0.14 but the latest is 2.1. I hope the latest version will make it into the repos very soon.

I installed some packages from the repos (probably testing) and LOADS of dependencies were updated. I'm not sure what was doing it, but I installed SeaMonkey, FontForge, VLC, PCManFM.

Getting everything installed into VL7 RC2 took me less than two hours. The installation itself was done in a half hour. I always copy lots of stuff over from my previous installation, which speeds things up tremendously.

I hope to install on my other desktop very soon, but we're having houseguests this weekend and I probably won't have time. I've very eager to see how it runs on the Athlon 64, which has had some "issues" in the past (mainly due to the ATI graphics, I think).

When I run into a problem, I'll post about it. Good job, devs!
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on June 22, 2011, 06:12:27 pm
VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2-STD

On HP-2133 Mini-Note the GUI Installer is useless. It cannot be read since
characters and small windows  flow into each other. Apparently it does not
get the correct resolution unlike VL7-LIGHT.

Is this your netbook?

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4352

Netbook ? Can't find HP-2133 on this website.

Anyhow, 2 years or so ago VL6 installed with GUI installer pefectly on this
machine and has been running on it since untill recently.  I assume the
TUI installed will work. Again, the Light version finds the correct resolution.

Further, installed on my desktop PC RC2 with vinstall and had a perfect run.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: hata_ph on June 22, 2011, 06:15:12 pm
VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2-STD

On HP-2133 Mini-Note the GUI Installer is useless. It cannot be read since
characters and small windows  flow into each other. Apparently it does not
get the correct resolution unlike VL7-LIGHT.

Is this your netbook?

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4352

Netbook ? Can't find HP-2133 on this website.

Anyhow, 2 years or so ago VL6 installed with GUI installer pefectly on this
machine and has been running on it since untill recently.  I assume the
TUI installed will work. Again, the Light version finds the correct resolution.

Further, installed on my desktop PC RC2 with vinstall and had a perfect run.


Maybe you can post the output of lspci and lsmod of your laptop...
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on June 22, 2011, 06:25:15 pm
Netbook ? Can't find HP-2133 on this website.

What would you call it? Notebooks of that size are called netbooks.

There is a full review on that Web site. Scroll down. The review starts several screens down.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: vincent2 on June 22, 2011, 07:14:17 pm
Bonjour!

VL7 STD RC2 installation on old  amd 1500xp cpu driven Sharp mebuis laptop went smoothly.

while ar9271 based USB wifi card(ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n) and ralink 3370 based wifi usb can't work at all , Hope new kernel  with built-in driver to "ath9k_htc" and "rt2870" mode would be loaded to VL7 mirror soon.
Title: nslookup error
Post by: vincent2 on June 22, 2011, 07:27:26 pm
Bonjour

Pls. load "idnkit" package to Vl7 mirror , otherwise nslookup won't work
Title: Re: nslookup error
Post by: stretchedthin on June 22, 2011, 09:29:25 pm
Bonjour

Pls. load "idnkit" package to Vl7 mirror , otherwise nslookup won't work

Packaged and uploaded to testing repositories. Don't know how quickly it will hit the mirrors though. Depends on the rsync schedule.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on June 22, 2011, 11:13:43 pm
Netbook ? Can't find HP-2133 on this website.

What would you call it? Notebooks of that size are called netbooks.

There is a full review on that Web site. Scroll down. The review starts several screens down.
--GrannyGeek

Thanks! Did not know. Never stop learning. ;)  From now on the HP-2133 netbook.
Yes, saw now the review. That's the one.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on June 22, 2011, 11:51:01 pm
A negative bug report ;)

Installed Nvidia w/o a hitch.  ;D using
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.19-pkg1.run

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
.......
Section "Device"

### Values: : integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz",
### <percent>: "<f>%"
###
[arg]: arg optional
#Option     "SWcursor"                  # [<bool>]
#Option     "HWcursor"                  # [<bool>]
#Option     "NoAccel"                   # [<bool>]
#Option     "ShadowFB"                  # [<bool>]
#Option     "VideoKey"                  #
#Option     "WrappedFB"                 #
[<bool>]
#Option     "GLXVBlank"                 # [<bool>]
#Option     "ZaphodHeads"               # <str>
    Identifier     "Card0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
EndSection
.......
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on June 23, 2011, 01:08:51 am
VECTORLINUX 7.0 LIVE RC2

Unable to make a wireless Internet connection in netbook HP-2133. :(

I see that in wicd-client for wireless connection eth0 was changed to wlan0 in
this release yet I can't connect. Changed settings in rc.inet1.config for wlan0
(copied rc.inet1.conf.new) and disabling all eth*
then running 'rc.inet1 start' I get in ifconfig eth2, ??? however, no ip-address.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: nightflier on June 23, 2011, 04:14:50 am
I have found that /sbin/VLwifi is good at identifying wireless adapters. Once it finds it I cancel the rest and plug that value into wicd.

Also, specifying "no network" during install works, as wicd handles it.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: gnomic on June 23, 2011, 06:04:59 am
Live on RC2 Live. ThinkPad R51 with ipw2200 wifi. uptime 2:48

Unclear on why the wifi has to be configured as eth2 in wicd to get a connection. Usually eth1. Default at boot is wlan0. Perhaps some investigation required here? The dread udev rules need twiddling? Wlan0 usually seems to relate to broadcom or ralink hardware. Intel invariably eth1 in my experience.

More critically, just tried to plug in a usb stick. Thunar says 'Error creating moint [sic] point: No such file or directory.' That should be 'mount' surely? Devil in details. Profi look.

Anyway, unless I am wrong, this is a SHOW STOPPER. I mean, sheesh. Afraid there seems to be something terribly wrong here. User must be able to attach a volume. Something up with Thunar? User permissions? Agh. Will have another look tomorrow.

[11181.463412] usb 1-4: Product: USB Flash Drive
[11181.463415] usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Lexar
[11181.463418] usb 1-4: SerialNumber: longalphanumericstring
[11181.464958] scsi6 : usb-storage 1-4:1.0
[11182.869241] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Lexar    USB Flash Drive  1100 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
[11182.869621] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[11182.872576] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 7831552 512-byte logical blocks: (4.00 GB/3.73 GiB)
[11182.873447] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[11182.873452] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 43 00 00 00
[11182.873456] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[11182.876070] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[11182.877244]  sdb: sdb1
[11182.878816] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[11182.878821] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk

About Xfce says 4.8.0.

from syslog ---> ???

Jun 14 18:01:07 vector gdmgreeter[6012]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_key_file_free: assertion `key_file != NULL' failed
Jun 14 18:02:16 vector gdmgreeter[6242]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_key_file_get_boolean: assertion `key_file != NULL' failed
Jun 14 18:02:16 vector gdmgreeter[6242]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_key_file_get_string: assertion `key_file != NULL' failed
Jun 14 18:02:16 vector gdmgreeter[6242]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_key_file_get_string: assertion `key_file != NULL' failed
Jun 14 18:02:16 vector gdmgreeter[6242]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_key_file_get_locale_string: assertion `key_file != NULL' failed
Jun 14 18:02:16 vector last message repeated 5 times
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: uelsk8s on June 23, 2011, 07:55:45 am
Bonjour!

VL7 STD RC2 installation on old  amd 1500xp cpu driven Sharp mebuis laptop went smoothly.

while ar9271 based USB wifi card(ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n) and ralink 3370 based wifi usb can't work at all , Hope new kernel  with built-in driver to "ath9k_htc" and "rt2870" mode would be loaded to VL7 mirror soon.

a ralink driver package is here: http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/kernels/drivers/ralink_driver-2870_3070_2.6.38.7-i586-1vl70.txz
please test it and let us know if it works for you
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: vincent2 on June 23, 2011, 11:41:52 am
Quote
Quote from: vincent2 on June 22, 2011, 06:14:17 pm
Bonjour!

VL7 STD RC2 installation on old  amd 1500xp cpu driven Sharp mebuis laptop went smoothly.

while ar9271 based USB wifi card(ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n) and ralink 3370 based wifi usb can't work at all , Hope new kernel  with built-in driver to "ath9k_htc" and "rt2870" mode would be loaded to VL7 mirror soon.

a ralink driver package is here: http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/kernels/drivers/ralink_driver-2870_3070_2.6.38.7-i586-1vl70.txz
please test it and let us know if it works for you

Bonjour!
Tried "installpkg ralink_driver-2870_3070_2.6.38.7-i586-1vl70.txz" momemt ago, ralink 3370 chip  based wifi still couldn't work yet
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on June 23, 2011, 07:32:02 pm
VECTORLINUX 7.0 LIVE RC2

Unable to make a wireless Internet connection in netbook HP-2133. :(

I see that in wicd-client for wireless connection eth0 was changed to wlan0 in
this release yet I can't connect. Changed settings in rc.inet1.config for wlan0
(copied rc.inet1.conf.new) and disabling all eth*
then running 'rc.inet1 start' I get in ifconfig eth2, ??? however, no ip-address.

That eth2 should have triggered my brain. Well it did very early tnis morning. Booted the live
changed in wicd-client wlan0 to eth2 and here I am sending this post out from HP-2133. ;D

Just wondering what wrong setting in wicd-client it will be on the next release? ;)
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on June 23, 2011, 10:23:42 pm
No problems so far with VL7 Standard RC2 on the Sempron. Today I installed RC2 on the Athlon 64. I  could  not use "auto" to guess the correct monitor resolution for installation, nor could I use 1280x1024. They caused loss of the  monitor and a "Not Optimum Resolution" or some such message that necessitated a power shutoff and reboot. I had to use 1024x768. The "auto" option did work on the Sempron.

Once VL was installed, I went with the "no xorg" option and it worked to get the correct 1280x1024 resolution and ATI video.

I've installed quite a few repo packages and they have been fine on preliminary testing.

Out of time for further testing until Sunday.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on June 24, 2011, 09:34:47 am
As with RC1, cups does not recognize my HP Laserjet 6mp or my HP Laserjet 4 MPlus on any usb port.

As with RC1, on shutdown, VL7 goes into an endless loop, repeating something like "Warning:  all config files need conf: /etc/modprobe.d/sound it will be ignored in a future session" with a "stopping firewall" thrown in every once in a while.  Have to turn it off physically.  Perhaps is related to linphone, which I am using now that the evil empire bought skype.  libosip2 and libeXosip2 are required for linphone, in addition to speex, which comes installed.  I started to install libosip2 and libeXosip2 on gslapt but, if I recall, gslapt would in both cases have deleted 9 files (mplayer, etc).  So I installed libosip2 and libeXosip2 from slackbuilds.  I used linphone on RC1 as well, and, as mentioned, got a similar endless loop on shutdown.

My machine information is at bottom of post.

John

Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: cry_baby on June 24, 2011, 01:39:50 pm
VECTORLINUX 7.0 LIGHT LIVE RC2

Unable to make a wireless Internet connection in netbook HP-2133. :(

I see that in wicd-client for wireless connection eth0 was changed to wlan0 in
this release yet I can't connect. Changed settings in rc.inet1.config for wlan0
(copied rc.inet1.conf.new) and disabling all eth*
then running 'rc.inet1 start' I get in ifconfig eth2, ??? however, no ip-address.

That eth2 should have triggered my brain. Well it did very early tnis morning. Booted the live
changed in wicd-client wlan0 to eth2 and here I am sending this post out from HP-2133. ;D

Just wondering what wrong setting in wicd-client it will be on the next release? ;)


Had a similiar problem, it seemed that the drivers where ok, but wicd wouldn't show any wireless connection until I changed wlan0 to eth2. I chagend that just for trying, I dont know how it worked. Im running vector from a HP 2025, im also happy that distros are finally adding the drivers for this broadcom's wifi cards.

Every thing else seems to work fine. I'm running in a live usb, and i suppose it's a 32 bit vector linux, are there any 64 bit version? Don't know if there will be a big difference between 32 and 64 bit for daily tasks.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on June 24, 2011, 09:07:08 pm
VL7-STD-RC2

Did some testing and unfortunately all froze. ???
Here are some results:

-- Trying to mount a pendrive a window opens telling I am not authorized.

-- xkill does not seem to work. Giving the command nothing happens untill Ctrl-C

-- xsetroot -solid color & is not acted on. Is that unique to xfce4 now?
    I wanted to change that to me depressingly dark background of VL7.

-- exmh mail program still does not show the mail in folders, however,
    indicates how many there are in. In a similar to VL7 slackware distro 13.37
    this  is not the case. So I assume it is VL7 related.

Then all hang. Possibly HD problem.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on June 25, 2011, 12:20:37 am
VL7-LIVE-RC2

-- On booting one gets 7 times the error to change {SYSFS} to {ATTR} in /lib/udev/rules.d/56-hpmud_support.rules

-- To set-up printing one has to change the blank password first since cups does not accept the blank

-- Menu-System-Manage_Printing opens http://localhost:631 as 404 Not Found. One has to add /admin and it opens.

Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on June 25, 2011, 09:08:31 pm
VL7-LIVE installed

Installation went smooth. After booting got some messages about wicd not working or so.
Did as su: "wicd start" and Internet connected to eth1.

Audio CD not playing with gnome-player: Failed to open cdda://sr0/Track%201.wav.

Playing with mplayer and the 2 UMplayer.
Xine opens and disappers.

Trying to mount USB pendrive I get: Error creating moint point: No such file or directory

Yes, alsa was working w/o me doing anything exept adjusting the volumes in alsamixer.

Printers found and printing after changing root password.

Further testing will follow.

skype working with usb camera as "microphone" w/o me helping. That is
in VL7-Live sound settings just work with alsa and usb-webcam.

On second boot no more wicd error message. Internet was just connected.

I start really liking this version of VL7.

Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: nightflier on June 26, 2011, 03:55:30 pm
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/galculator.png is a dead link,
pointing to  "../../../../pixmaps/galculator/galculator_48x48.png", should be
../../../../pixmaps/galculator/galculator.png
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on June 26, 2011, 11:54:17 pm
Several times, after leaving the computer on and unattended for a few hours, upon my return, the system has frozen, requiring a hard reboot.  I have slowed down the screensaver in hopes that will the problem.  I have 3019MB of memory.

In addition, I am having trouble getting sound through the hdmi port.  I switch to the intel cougarpoint hdmi mixer, but it doesn't work.  Video works great though.

John
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Colonel Panic on June 27, 2011, 01:56:58 am
There seem to be a few libraries missing from mine. I couldn't get abiword, gnumeric or firefox to run.

If no one else has the same problem I'll put it down to a bad burn. Strange though, because I watched it as it was installing and I couldn't see anything untoward.

Best,

CP .
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: scififry on June 27, 2011, 06:39:09 am
In addition, I am having trouble getting sound through the hdmi port.  I switch to the intel cougarpoint hdmi mixer, but it doesn't work.  Video works great though.
Maybe you have to configure ALSA for your hdmi sound port?

Hdmi is a very complicated new thing as you probably already knew. Sorry if this doesn't help :-[
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: cry_baby on June 27, 2011, 03:04:43 pm
Installed the standard version (not live) with no problems during install. But when its finished and i reboot it doesnt load the GUI. It says that theres no KDM, GDM, XDM.. or something like that. And when the prompt appears (text mode) i can only login as root, but i cant even run vasm. I re/installed but nothing changed.
I will try to intall from live cd.
I checked the md5 sums to see if they were ok, and they are, so i dont know.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: stretchedthin on June 27, 2011, 03:25:28 pm
Installed the standard version (not live) with no problems during install. But when its finished and i reboot it doesnt load the GUI. It says that theres no KDM, GDM, XDM.. or something like that. And when the prompt appears (text mode) i can only login as root, but i cant even run vasm. I re/installed but nothing changed.
I will try to intall from live cd.
I checked the md5 sums to see if they were ok, and they are, so i dont know.

Standard version should be your best bet.  Did you do a full install or did you make any custom choices during the set-up?
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: cry_baby on June 27, 2011, 05:33:50 pm
Did a full install. Now I installed from live. When i clicked on vlliveinstaller and followed the first steps then i tried to quit/close the installation, and the window did closed, but after a while a message of installation complete appear, and it had actualy instaled without me knowing it. So, i reboot and try it out. Again x wouldnt start automatically, i log in as root in text mode and write startx, and finally im in the desktop. Wicd also didnt start automatically the first time.
Now im running an installed live version, with a buggy install... Couldnt choose partitions and i actually didnt know that it was installing itself.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on June 27, 2011, 07:11:51 pm
There seem to be a few libraries missing from mine. I couldn't get abiword, gnumeric or firefox to run.

If no one else has the same problem I'll put it down to a bad burn.

I've run Firefox for long periods with no problem. Abiword did start for me, but I didn't do anything with it. It does look fine. I didn't try gnumeric because I don't use it.

This is true on my two desktop computers.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on June 27, 2011, 08:56:17 pm
VECTORLINUX 7.0 LIVE-RC2

If I am in a home directory created with useradd before installing with the
installer and I try to play with xine, the programm will open and then crashes
just before it starts playing. That is both in fluxbox and xfce4.

If I mount my VL6 home directory of a separate partition xine plays audio
 and video correctly again both in fluxbox and xfce4.

As for VECTORLINUX 7.0 Std RC2, firefox-5.0 and abiword pose no problems.

Flashdrive cannot be mounted as reported when in xfce4 and clicking on the
flashdrive icon.

In fluxbox I can mount the flashdrive with the mount command, however,
when opeing it it claims that it is totally empty even so the same flashdrive
shows that it is 95 % full when mounted in VL6 where it was loaded with the
back-up of my /home directory.   ???
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on June 28, 2011, 01:58:54 pm
Exaile isn't working right on my two desktop systems. When I tell it to play a stream from our local public radio classical station, there is no sound and no sign it is playing it, although the "stop" button is available and the play button is not. Other media players do play the stream fine. Exaile in rc1 and the betas did play the stream. Exaile does play another stream if I select it.

When Exaile attempts to play the stream it can't play, it can't play local music files if I remove the stream from the playlist.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: caieng on June 29, 2011, 02:42:10 pm
Quote from: GrannyGeek
Exaile isn't working right on my two desktop systems.

Wish I could help you, but, I am posting here to note my own few problems with RC-2.

First, let me say, though, that the installation program seems to me, to be VASTLY improved, compared with a few months back.  Thank you.

I am still unable to reboot successfully, after selecting sda4 for the installation of  LILO.  The default, of course, is MBR, and I refuse to use that.  It appears to be a standoff.  Vector insists that I employ MBR, and I insist on using the partition where Linux is installed.

I consider this a bug, for many, many other Linux distros do permit me to install the boot loader to the same partition where I have installed the OS.

Thirdly, GrannyGeek is using exaile, a program which I detest.  I am strictly a VLC guy, and VLC seems not available in the repository.....
Am I doing something wrong?

Finally, in the nitpicker category, (maybe everything I write belongs in that bin!!) there ought, in my opinion, be an icon on the desktop, after the initial boot, during the install process, to enable the user to INSTALL the OS.

Further, icons on the desktop ought to respond to a SINGLE click of the mouse.  This is no longer 1980, where mice had only one button, and one was obliged to click twice to signal yes, and click once to signal no.

In conclusion, I like your new XFCE-4 desktop, I like the improved installer, and I remain confused about the status of VLC.....(not to write that I am not also confused about lots of other things too....

Thanks again for the newest release candidate....

 :)

CAI ENG
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: hata_ph on June 29, 2011, 06:23:27 pm
Dear caieng,

I believe vlc-1.1.7-i586-1vl70 [inst=no]: vlc (multimedia player) is at the testing repo. Pls enable testing repo and you can install it from slapt-get/gslapt. Due to the VLC package is still in the testing stage, pls help to test it and report any problem regarding VLC in the VLC thread. Thanks. :)

http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=14673.0
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on June 29, 2011, 08:01:25 pm
I have VLC installed in RC2. It's  in the testing repo.

I  notice that we often get questions asking for this or that application, which they couldn't find with Gslapt. In most cases, the app is in /testing. I wish we could do something about making users aware of ALL the repos, including /extras, /gsb, and above all, /testing. I am well aware of the uncertain status of apps that are in /testing and everyone who uses /testing should be aware that there is a slight risk in using those apps. I must say, though, that in several years of using apps from /testing, I've never wrecked my system. About the worst that might happen is that the app doesn't work right, or at all, on my system. I don't do an "upgrade everything" with /testing enabled and am not suggesting that. However, installing apps from /testing on an individual basis is generally safe, in my experience. Anyway, things don't get tested *that* extensively before they're moved to the regular repos, so you're not gaining a lot by waiting if there is something you really want.

caieng said:
>> Vector insists that I employ MBR, and I insist on using the partition where Linux is installed. >>

I've had LILO installed on the partition of the Linux I'm using for years. As far as I know, if you put LILO on the boot sector of the Linux partition instead of the MBR, it's expected you'll be using another boot loader that will chain to that partition. I've used LILO-on-the-Linux-partition when I'm using the Windows XP boot loader and it works just fine. In fact, that's what I'm doing right now on my Sempron computer.

>>  there ought, in my opinion, be an icon on the desktop, after the initial boot, during the install process, to enable the user to INSTALL the OS. >>

So you're using the Live CD version? I believe you have to be root in order to install the OS on the hard drive if you're using the Live CD. But why not use the "real" CD for installing? I see the Live CD as a "try before you decide" thing rather than an Ubuntu-like one-size-fits-all.

>>  icons on the desktop ought to respond to a SINGLE click of the mouse.  >>

That may be an XFce thing. In Thunar you can choose some single-click option, but I don't like it and have never used it and it applies only to Thunar. It may not be 1980, but Windows 7 still uses double-clicks on the desktop and the Mac has always been designed for a single button mouse--though many users don't like that and use two-button mice instead. I'd say starting programs by clicking on desktop icons is becoming passe, though it's still an option for users. I never start programs that way. I set up launchers on the XFce Panel and they function as "drawers"--the icon on the Panel has the little arrow next to it and when you click it, other programs in that category become visible and can be started with one click. My categories are Terminals, File Managers, Browsers, Office apps, Graphics apps, Multimedia apps, Miscellaneous apps, System Management such as vasm, gslapt, htop, etc. The apps I don't use often are in the Desktop Menu ("Start" menu), which I can access also by a right-click on the desktop.

I guess this means you can't please everyone. One likes this, another likes that, and the best we can hope for are options when possible.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: caieng on June 30, 2011, 10:37:38 am
 
Quote from: GrannyGeek
I have VLC installed in RC2. It's  in the testing repo.
1.  THANK you GrannyGeek, very much.  Thoughtful, meaningful, and useful reply, as usual.  Much appreciated.  
2.  Sorry, I don't know how to use the "testing repo".  I just barely understand the idea of Gslapt.  I guess, but do not know from personal experience, that Gslapt works the same way as "synaptic", i.e. the Debian program which enables users to upgrade their software from a central repostitory.  I also am aware, but could not explain the distinction with the red hat rpm repository.
3.  Is your VLC the current version, 1.10?  I am using 1.10 on both Linux and WinXP, at present.

Quote from: GrannyGeek
As far as I know, if you put LILO on the boot sector of the Linux partition instead of the MBR, it's expected you'll be using another boot loader that will chain to that partition
Yes, I use, with great success, XOSL.  I have used XOSL with any number of Linux distros, without any difficulty.  I must be doing something wrong, for I cannot reach the Vector boot sector on sda4, post installation.

Quote from: GrannyGeek
So you're using the Live CD version? I believe you have to be root in order to install the OS on the hard drive if you're using the Live CD.
Root Schmmoot.  Who cares?  do I care?  NO.  Absolutely not.  I use my computer.  No one else.  It is not a server.  I don't share it with anyone else.  Root for me is an abstraction, an irritant.  
Procedure: a.  download distro; b.  install distro;  c.  test distro.  
End of story.

To this point, I have not succeeded in testing Vector 7, because I cannot login.  I can't login because nothing happens, the screen is blank, I never reach VL 7.  I am stuck trying to boot.
Am I doing something wrong?  YES, obviously.  (from the perspective of the writer of the software program that installs Vector.)  I am engaged in precisely the same behaviour that I employ in testing every other Linux distro.  a.  download, b.  install, c.  test.

Failure to boot is clearly a reflection of some sort of error made by me, right?  yes.  But, all I can say, in my defense, is that I am engaged in doing nothing different from what I do for every other Linux distro.

To my way of thinking, this is a bug in the installer.

I make it all the way through to the end (already a big improvement, compared with previous beta versions of 7), but upon rebooting, boom, zilch, nada.  FAILURE.

Quote from: GrannyGeek
It may not be 1980, but Windows 7 still uses double-clicks on the desktop and the Mac has always been designed for a single button mouse--though many users don't like that and use two-button mice instead.

Sorry, but here we are definitely on two different roads, aimed in completely opposite directions.
I don't do ANYTHING, because Apple, or M$ do it that way.

Invoking Apple or M$ as a justification for doing something which is:

a.  counterintuitive,
b.  utterly stupid;
c.  clumsy;
d.  assuming a feature of nimbleness which elderly folks like me, LACK;

is an absolute dead end.  I will not support, or use, any OS, that demands two clicks of the mouse.

If Vector Linux wishes to ENABLE, obsolete technology, that is no problem, from my perspective.  BUT, it is a REAL problem, if the distro requires users to behave in a manner consistent with the norms of obsolete technology.  Let there be a switch which Granny and others can enable, to require the user to click twice.  Fine.  No problem.  Require that I click twice, however:  boom,  ZERO, NOPE, END OF STORY.  No further interest in this distro.  One click as the default, or I have no further interest in Vector Linux.  Granny and all others who love Apple and Windows 7, can click twice with a switch, but I am not going to endure the travail of trying to find such a silly switch, (if it exists) and changing it, to single click.

CAI ENG



Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: M0E-lnx on June 30, 2011, 11:42:31 am
Again guys, seriously? How hard is it to change the mouse behaviour from double to single click?

I personally like the double click action and hate the single clicks for no reason other than that's what i'm  used to... that's how the computers I use work...

I understand the rants about the ugly default theme on VL7... and I myself dont like it, but I dont have to stare at that for the rest of the distro's life.  Can be changed with a couple of clicks.  I change mine immediately after the first boot.  But to say
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I will not support, or use, any OS that demands two clicks of the mouse I think is going too far.  No distro is aimed at pleasing everybody.  You guys are missing the point here.  If you're not willing to configure your linux environment, why are you  using linux in the first place?  why not just find some un-customizable OS that doesn't allow you to change the appearance or peripheral behaviour?
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: caieng on June 30, 2011, 12:04:29 pm
Quote from: MOE-Inx
If you're not willing to configure your linux environment, why are you  using linux in the first place?

1.  difference between and distinction of "willing" versus "obliged";

2.  what does "configuration" have to do with a desire to avoid M$/apple?  Nothing, in my opinion, i.e. non-sequitur.  In other words, MOE, folks don't use Linux, because it is readily configurable.  They use it because it requires LESS configuration than M$.

3.  One would not be so vehemently opposed to changing from two to one click if it were obvious that two clicks is more logical, more reasonable, and more flexible, than single click.  Unfortunately, the converse is true.  You will discover this in another few decades, when arthritis hits you........

Linux is supposed to be:
 
logical,

user friendly,

intuitive.

MOE, are the steps neccessary, for the user to change from two clicks to a single click, intuitive, ???????

I have no idea how to go about it.  One reason why I have no idea how to accomplish this task, is because NONE of the other linux distros which I regularly use, require the user to click twice.  They all work, without exception, on a single click.

CAI ENG
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: M0E-lnx on June 30, 2011, 12:28:06 pm
Nobody forces you to use any configuration other than yourself.  Just because the distro ships with a default configuration doesn't mean you can't fine tune it to your taste.

I disagree. I dont see what's so hard about clicking Menu -> Settings -> File Manager -> Behaviour and clicking on the "Single click" option.

I agree that the settings could be placed in a different spot, but then again, you're not even forced to use XFCE.  THere are other window managers, and desktop environments available.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: caieng on June 30, 2011, 01:06:30 pm
Quote from: MOE-Inx
I disagree. I dont see what's so hard about clicking Menu -> Settings -> File Manager -> Behaviour and clicking on the "Single click" option.

Native speakers of English have difficulty understanding why foreigners can't understand them:  "What's so hard about English" ???

I recommend, if you haven't already done so, that you commence a study of Chinese, MOE, to learn what "hard" really means.
Think about Quantum Mechanics, MOE.  Is it really hard???

How about partial differential equations, MOE.  Hard???  Why?

Grignard synthesis--what's so difficult to understand about organic chemistry?

Personally, I don't find Chinese particularly difficult.  In my experience, Japanese is tougher to understand, and easier to speak....

That's not really what it is all about though, is it MOE?  It is not about what you or I think is easy or hard, right? 
The word, here, the key word, is
INTUITIVE.

What is intuitive, MOE, about "Menu -> Settings -> File Manager -> Behaviour " ? ? ?

NO, I agree with you, it is not "hard", to follow these steps, but those steps are NOT OBVIOUS. 

Now that you have taught me how to make the change, (and it was SIMPLE, I went to another computer, running XFCE, and found the sequence, just as you set forth....), I will relax about the fact that VECTOR enables by default two clicks, rather than one.  However, I do think, in view of the relative obscurity of this alteration, and the relative facility associated with carrying it out, that VECTOR ought to use single click as default.  I certainly insist that the behaviour of Apple and M$ ought not provide  justification for defining VECTOR's default configuration.

CAI ENG
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: newt on June 30, 2011, 01:29:13 pm
caieng, you attempt to illustrate the definition of "hard" was overshadowed by your contempt and disrespect. Quite honestly, what IS "hard" is to communicate with you.

Your concern over VLC was erroneous.

Your concern over single- vs double-click is irrelevant, yet EASILY solved.

Your personal preference of desktop configuration is irrelevant, as is mine (i.e. "personal preference").

If you want a more "OBVIOUS" location for fixing single/double-clicks on the desktop then let the XFCE team know.

Until single-click functionality on the desktop becomes the standard - and, NO, it's not the standard - double-click will be the default.

I do not use linux because it requires LESS configuration than MS (actually, for me, it requires MORE configuration).

Linux strives to make attempts at being logical, user friendly, and intuitive; as do other operating systems.

Like it or not, root is part of linux (even if the user is disabled).

If your purpose is to "a.  download distro; b.  install distro;  c.  test distro" then you should use the install version, not live version.

What you report on are not "bugs" as the thread topic indicates.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: caieng on June 30, 2011, 01:51:33 pm

a.
Quote from: newt
What you report on are not "bugs" as the thread topic indicates.

HI Newt.
No, those are not bugs, I agree with you.

The bug, which I reported, has not yet been addressed.  Maybe, it is not at all a bug, but simply my inability to install VECTOR, correctly.  I described it as a bug, and reported it here, because to my way of thinking, it is a bug.  If I have erred, please feel free to ignore my assertion.  I cannot login, post installation, for there is no transport to sda4.  The computer just sits there.

*****************
b.
If your purpose is to "a.  download distro; b.  install distro;  c.  test distro" then you should use the install version, not live version.

What's the difference?  How would one know that distinction?  What then, is the purpose of the "live" version.  Context:  All of the other linux distros which I have installed from live editions, work fine.....Do you mean that I have not been installing Vector 7, all these different attempts have been for naught, because I am using a "live" cdrom, instead of an "install" cdrom???

That's strange, if so.

CAI ENG.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: newt on June 30, 2011, 02:41:18 pm
a) I assume you mean the inability to install lilo to sda4 from the Live CD's installer. If the option is not offered then it's a lack of functionality rather than a bug. The install version should allow you to install lilo to the partition rather than mbr (see below for install version vs live version).

b) The "Install" vs "Live" issue is messy and incongruent. The difference is the install version sole purpose is to install VL to your hard drive - no getting to see it work beforehand.  The Live version sole purpose is to allow a user to see and work with VL without having to install it to the hard drive. In every previous release of VL, the live version did not become available until after the install version was final. IMO, it's unfortunate that the live and install versions are being released and announced in the same thread. Live CDs tend to have random artifacts related to making them "Live", compounded with a testing release cycle and same-announcement threads, it makes for an unnecessarily messy situation as it relates to bug reports. (Add in the fact that Pita is testing/reporting on VL7 Light versions in this thread, and we really start to get messy.)

As you indicate, one cannot know the distinction unless they are familiar with the difference between Install and Live distros, even then you have to throw in the fact that VL Live CD may work differently that other distros live releases (again, unfortunate they are on same release cycle and same release announcement).

Theoretically, you HAVE been installing VL7 with the Live CD, it's just that you've been getting a tailored/altered/reduced version of the installer that comes with the Live version. Testing you've done in the past (6+ months ago and prior) have almost exclusively been for non-live versions; it just seems that it's THIS release cycle that has combined releases. On the plus side, you've always had more troubles installing previous versions than you've had this time with the exception of lilo. It would be interesting for you to try installing the most recent Install version to see if you have more control over lilo and other aspects. Keep in mind that the graphical (GUI) installer may not work on your system if the past is any kind of indication of this time around, which may oblige (i.e. force) you to use the text (TUI) installer found on the same CD (accessed by typing 'install' at the first "boot:" prompt), and, again, the GUI and TUI installers don't exactly match up in terms of functionality and options (sigh, rolleyes) - three installers and none work the same (Live, GUI, TUI). Below is the link for the VL7 RC2 Install version and md5 (if needed):
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/iso-release/VL7.0-STD-RC2.iso
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-7.0/iso-release/VL7.0-STD-RC2.md5sum.txt
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on June 30, 2011, 06:03:36 pm
Clickidiclick. I have no problem. My desktop has no icons. In fact I hate them.
Very simple solution. ;D  Fluxbox with xfce4/gnome-panel or remove them in ~/Desktop.

And as the saying goes: To please every cat and hound, is a secret no one has yet found. ;)
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: caieng on June 30, 2011, 06:10:20 pm
Thank you newt.  Good post.  Clears up a lot of my misunderstanding.

I am now downloading the install version......

Yes, as you noted, I do perceive a significant improvement in the installer, apart from the unfortunate final step, which, as you have now explained, is not a bug, but rather a decision to deny users of the "live" version, an opportunity to install Vector 7 to sda4 partition on the SATA drive.

OK, mystery cleared up.  I will try to post my results again, this weekend, after I reinstall, from the new cdrom.;.....Thanks again, for your patience.....

regards,

CAI ENG
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on June 30, 2011, 08:01:41 pm
My desktop has no icons. In fact I hate them.
Very simple solution. ;D  Fluxbox with xfce4/gnome-panel or remove them in ~/Desktop.

Another simple solution--just don't put icons on the XFce desktop and remove the ones that are there. I think it now gives the option to get rid of the ones you couldn't remove in earlier versions of XFce.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on June 30, 2011, 08:28:05 pm
Quote
Live CDs tend to have random artifacts related to making them "Live", compounded with a testing release cycle
 and same-announcement threads, it makes for an unnecessarily messy situation as it relates to bug reports.
(Add in the fact that Pita is testing/reporting on VL7 Light versions in this thread, and we really start to get messy.)

Just following orders. First post on this thread:

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 Please post bug reports, suggestions, and comments for VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2
and 7.0 RC2 LIVECD here.  Thanks...

Surprised me too.

Pita
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Sty on June 30, 2011, 10:57:52 pm
Hey guys, downloaded and installed RC2 in a virtual machine. Let me just say wow, can't wait to try it on my laptop! :D
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: newt on July 01, 2011, 07:20:54 am
Quote
Live CDs tend to have random artifacts related to making them "Live", compounded with a testing release cycle
 and same-announcement threads, it makes for an unnecessarily messy situation as it relates to bug reports.
(Add in the fact that Pita is testing/reporting on VL7 Light versions in this thread, and we really start to get messy.)

Just following orders. First post on this thread:

Quote
 Please post bug reports, suggestions, and comments for VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2
and 7.0 RC2 LIVECD here.  Thanks...

Surprised me too.

Pita
I didn't mean to single you out in a negative way, just use your 'Live-Light' testing as an example of how this thread is a collection bucket for bugs from 2-3 different releases (or subreleases). I actually wonder if you have tested a true 'Light' version (live or not), or if the term 'light' has just accidentally slipped into the topic of your posts. Your post indicates you have tested 'VECTORLINUX 7.0 LIGHT LIVE RC2' or 'VL7-LIVE-LIGHT-RC2' yet I never saw a release announcement for a 'Light' version - then again it wouldn't surprise me if I missed the announcement; I've been known to miss a lot :D
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: newt on July 01, 2011, 07:28:22 am
Hey guys, downloaded and installed RC2 in a virtual machine. Let me just say wow, can't wait to try it on my laptop! :D
I've had a terrible time trying to install VL7 on virtual machine (Virtualbox 4.0.10) - VB's fault not VL. VB's been pegging one of my cores at 100% and running about 1/10 speed. I think the install took about 2 hours, of course I just walked away and came back hours later. After finishing the install I rebooted the system and the time it took to get from boot to selecting my OS from grub took about 5 minutes. Needless to say, I didn't get any testing done. I tried various fixes for VB (dummy machine, cpu affinity, downgrading, etc) but none worked. As a test to see if VB was going to always be problematic on my system I installed Salix Flux 13.37 and it worked just fine - quite fast in fact. I'm not sure why the VB-VL7 combo hasn't worked out for me but it's frustrating; I guess real hardware just can't be beat as a test medium ;D
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 01, 2011, 01:59:31 pm
Quote
Live CDs tend to have random artifacts related to making them "Live", compounded with a testing release cycle
 and same-announcement threads, it makes for an unnecessarily messy situation as it relates to bug reports.
(Add in the fact that Pita is testing/reporting on VL7 Light versions in this thread, and we really start to get messy.)

Just following orders. First post on this thread:

Quote
 Please post bug reports, suggestions, and comments for VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2
and 7.0 RC2 LIVECD here.  Thanks...

Surprised me too.

Pita
I actually wonder if you have tested a true 'Light' version (live or not), or if the term 'light' has just accidentally slipped into the topic of your posts. Your post indicates you have tested 'VECTORLINUX 7.0 LIGHT LIVE RC2' or 'VL7-LIVE-LIGHT-RC2' yet I never saw a release announcement for a 'Light' version - then again it wouldn't surprise me if I missed the announcement; I've been known to miss a lot :D

I was wondering the same thing about Pita's VL7 Light Live. I'm sure I didn't miss an announcement. So where did Pita find this elusive VL7 *LIGHT* Live? I don't scour through the ISO releases directory online, so I thought it might be in there but was too uninterested to check. However,  a release candidate 2 for VL7 *LIGHT* Live would have had no testing by the community since it was never announced and none of the usual testers have tried it. So I am assuming that Pita had some sort of Freudian slip in identifying VL7 Light Live.  Would like to know what Pita actually tested.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 01, 2011, 02:55:32 pm
2.  Sorry, I don't know how to use the "testing repo".  I just barely understand the idea of Gslapt.  

When you run Gslapt, certain repositories are available by default. To change those, you go to Edit, Preferences, Sources and enable Testing in one of the choices. In order to make sure any needed dependencies are pulled down, I always have
patches
packages
extra
testing
gsb

enabled. gsb contains stuff from Gnome, which some non-gnome packages need. I've never investigated how much of gnome you can get through the gsb repo. When you are considering what you might want to install, the Common tab on the main screen listing available packages has a line, Source. If it lists /testing, remember that the package isn't considered tested enough to place in the usual repos. However, as I said before, packages frequently don't get a lot of testing before they are moved to the usual repos, so don't feel like a pioneer if you try one. ;)  It would help a lot if you would mention your success or problems in the "VL package news and Updates" section of the forum under the announcement of the package.

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I use, with great success, XOSL.  I have used XOSL with any number of Linux distros, without any difficulty.  I must be doing something wrong, for I cannot reach the Vector boot sector on sda4, post installation.

I can't help at all with that because the only boot loader I've ever used is the Windows XP boot loader. I've never had a problem with it. All of my Linuxes are versions of VectorLinux. I lost interest in other distros years ago. Since VectorLinux 7 switched to the widespread Linux naming of all hard drive partitions as /dev/sdx rather than /dev/hdx, versions of VL that were installed using /dev/hdx will not boot with LILO for VL7. There is a workaround for that but I never cared enough to comprehend what I'd have to do and actually do it. I never use the older versions anyway. They are on my hard drive for historical reasons and because I occasionally need a file or library that isn't in the newer versions and I can just copy it from the previous installation.

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Root Schmmoot.  Who cares?  do I care?  NO.  Absolutely not.  I use my computer.  No one else.  It is not a server.  I don't share it with anyone else.  Root for me is an abstraction, an irritant.

We've been through that before. I think you *should* care because the security of your computer is at stake. I assure you that Linux isn't going to abandon root/user distinctions. Even if you use a Mac or Windows since XP, you'll find a distinction between administrator and user. So I guess if you're going to use Linux, you'll have to live with an irritant. Of course, you can run as root all the time if that's your choice. I don't recommend it but it's your machine.

>> I don't do ANYTHING, because Apple, or M$ do it that way. >>

I wasn't saying you should do anything because Microsoft or Apple do it that way. I was just pointing out that your categorical statement that desktop icons ought to respond to a single click and anything else is so '80s wasn't seen that way by Microsoft, which has done extensive redesigns of the desktop, as well as several Linux desktops. I don't know if the Mac requires double clicks.  With KDE I know you have a choice of single clicks or double clicks. So if single clicks are so important to you, use KDE, not XFce. I don't know if a single click is an option with Gnome.

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If Vector Linux wishes to ENABLE, obsolete technology, that is no problem, from my perspective.  BUT, it is a REAL problem, if the distro requires users to behave in a manner consistent with the norms of obsolete technology.

Who made you the judge of what is or is not "obsolete technology"? PLEASE--you are entitled to strong preferences, as are we all. But our preferences are NOT the standard to which all users and all desktops and all OSes must be held. As far as having no interest in VectorLinux if you can't get a single click for launching a desktop icon, well, VL 6 SOHO with KDE does offer a single click. So maybe Standard is not for you and you'd be happier with SOHO. I doubt any of us would deny you a choice you prefer.

To change to a single click in Thunar, go to Edit, Preferences, Behavior, and select Single click to activate items. However, this applies just to Thunar, not to desktop icons. If you would like an entire XFce single click option, you should mention this to the XFce developers. If there's enough interest, I'm sure it would eventually get incorporated.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: stretchedthin on July 01, 2011, 03:44:57 pm
Quote
When you run Gslapt, certain repositories are available by default. To change those, you go to Edit, Preferences, Sources and enable Testing in one of the choices. In order to make sure any needed dependencies are pulled down, I always have
patches
packages
extra
testing
gsb

Just an fyi. This release gsb was built totaly independently of the rest of the repo.  It isn't necessary to have gsb enabled for anything other than install applications that are on that repo, such as bashee or gnome-games.  I would recommend (unless you want to be the first guinee pig to try it out.) Disabling GSB before using the mark all upgrade function in GSlapt and executing.  That's pretty much the case for testing as well. Fine to leave it enabled at all times up until the point where you want to "Mark All Upgrades" and "Execute" in GSlapt.  At that time it is better left disabled.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: cry_baby on July 01, 2011, 05:21:33 pm
I think that the problem whit my instalation were the partitions. I tried installing all in one partition and it worked. But when i install /, /usr, /home, /var, in different partitions it doesnt work. It says that there is no boot.log in the /var partition, or something.. Do you think thats the reason? Did you tried installing VL7 with a similiar partition table (/, /usr, /home, /var)?
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on July 01, 2011, 05:56:15 pm
Quote
So I am assuming that Pita had some sort of Freudian slip in identifying VL7 Light Live.  Would like to know what Pita actually tested.
--GrannyGeek

Yeah it must be. I really never looked close and just associated LIVE with LIGHT. Even wondering that they
are lumped together in one thread did not trigger a response.

I said to a docter some time ago: I must be getting old, and he replied: you are old. ;D ;D
So sorry!
Will correct later all my wrong entries.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 01, 2011, 07:22:57 pm
This release gsb was built totaly independently of the rest of the repo.  It isn't necessary to have gsb enabled for anything other than install applications that are on that repo, such as bashee or gnome-games.  I would recommend (unless you want to be the first guinee pig to try it out.) Disabling GSB before using the mark all upgrade function in GSlapt and executing.  That's pretty much the case for testing as well. Fine to leave it enabled at all times up until the point where you want to "Mark All Upgrades" and "Execute" in GSlapt.  At that time it is better left disabled.

Thanks. It's good to know that the gsb repo is needed just for whatever is in that repo.

I never do a Mark All Upgrades and Execute, but would certainly not have testing enabled if I were to do such a thing. I would now do the same for gsb.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 01, 2011, 07:31:05 pm
I think that the problem whit my instalation were the partitions. I tried installing all in one partition and it worked. But when i install /, /usr, /home, /var, in different partitions it doesnt work. It says that there is no boot.log in the /var partition, or something.. Do you think thats the reason? Did you tried installing VL7 with a similiar partition table (/, /usr, /home, /var)?

Do you care to share the reason you wanted so many partitions? I usually use just one ( / ) and /home is a directory in / . I do have one computer (Dell laptop) where I have a / partition and a /home partition. I don't think I'll do it that way again, for reasons I won't go into.

One problem with overpartitioning is that it's difficult to predict how much space each partition will ultimately need. So it's likely we'd wind up with way too much unused space on one partition and not enough on another. I don't know if all those partitions would explain your installation difficulties.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 01, 2011, 07:54:21 pm
I said to a docter some time ago: I must be getting
old, and he replied: you are old. ;D ;D

I have "senior moments," too. The more senior I get, the more moments I have. ;)
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: nightflier on July 02, 2011, 05:34:03 am
I don't know much about how this works, but trying to figure out why
cpufreq will not accept the ondemand or conservative governors

Code: [Select]
root:# cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor           
userspace

root:# lsmod | grep cpu
cpufreq_performance      658  0
cpufreq_powersave        650  1
cpufreq_conservative     6438  0
cpufreq_ondemand        6486  0
freq_table              1771  2 cpufreq_ondemand,p4_clockmod

root:# ls -al /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jul  2 08:34 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor

root:# echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument

root:# echo userspace > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor


ondemand and conservative are rejected, but userspace is accepted, even though there seems to be no userspace module loaded.
additionally, the freq_table module shows that it is used by cpufreq_ondemand
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: cry_baby on July 04, 2011, 11:46:51 am
I think that the problem whit my instalation were the partitions. I tried installing all in one partition and it worked. But when i install /, /usr, /home, /var, in different partitions it doesnt work. It says that there is no boot.log in the /var partition, or something.. Do you think thats the reason? Did you tried installing VL7 with a similiar partition table (/, /usr, /home, /var)?

Do you care to share the reason you wanted so many partitions? I usually use just one ( / ) and /home is a directory in / . I do have one computer (Dell laptop) where I have a / partition and a /home partition. I don't think I'll do it that way again, for reasons I won't go into.

One problem with overpartitioning is that it's difficult to predict how much space each partition will ultimately need. So it's likely we'd wind up with way too much unused space on one partition and not enough on another. I don't know if all those partitions would explain your installation difficulties.
--GrannyGeek

Your were rigth, partitions are the problem. Vl7 Just doesnt work well if its divided that way, it doesnt even work well with just / and /home in different partitions, at least with ext4... It seems that it has to be all in one partition.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on July 04, 2011, 06:13:15 pm

Your were rigth, partitions are the problem. Vl7 Just doesnt work well if its divided that way,
it doesnt even work well with just / and /home in different partitions, at least with ext4...
It seems that it has to be all in one partition.

I have had always 3 partions since VL4.8. "/", /usr/local and /home. On a new install all goes to "/" first.
After installation I add in fstab the permanent partitions /usr/local and /home. Never had aproblem that way.

Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on July 04, 2011, 08:26:36 pm
I think I am doing the same as Pita.  Anyway, for years I have three partitions, a small swap, a not very large root, and a huge home partition.  When installing a new VL, I just format the root partition and put VL there.  I don't format home.   Works fine. 

John
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on July 04, 2011, 09:08:45 pm
VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 LIVE

I just made a new installation on an another HD since the previous one showed signs of getting bust.
This time it went differently then the first time. It started installing after I pointed out the drive,
did not ask what system I want, ext3 or reiserfs. It showed a progress window and after the first 2%
this window disappeared. On the CPU indicator of gkrellm I could see that
something is going on and 'df' every now showed the install partion being loaded.
Suddenly the window asking for lilo popped-up.

All was installed and I could boot into it and the drive was ext3 formatted. I do
prefer reiserfs.  When booting the live CD I choose the first option with vga=791.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: caieng on July 05, 2011, 08:06:07 am
Quote from: cry_baby
It seems that it has to be all in one partition.

I am clearly doing something incorrectly, at least from the perspective of the author(s) of the installer software.

I had trouble a week ago, or so, and as a result, downloaded a new copy, this time making sure that it was the "install" version.

First time, there was a crash, don't know more than that. 
Next day, yesterday, I again obtained ye olde blanke screene.  Not reassuring.

Thinking the problem then was most likely due to too much beverage consumed on the holiday, and insufficient eye on the monitor, this morning I tried again, this time, attempting to focus on the install.

First part worked ok.  Started the install, ok....Reached the section asking me for my user name, and an error message was produced, indicating that this particular user name had already been taken, (deja vu) and was therefore unavailable to use.

So, I changed the name, and got the same error.  Third time's the charm, right?  Nope.  Third time, with third different name, it just proclaimed: "unexpected error and must abort."  whereupon, I was looking at a blank screen, without user options.

open to suggestions.....
details:  I simply hit carriage return at boot up;   partition, single partition, for root, and everything else, except swap on its own primary partition.
computer:  586 P3 @1GHz, with half a gigabyte of RAM, video card S3 Savage 4.

CAI ENG
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: newt on July 05, 2011, 10:52:09 am
caieng, I remember you having troubles with the GUI install in previous VL testing you've done. It seems this time around you've actually been able to progress further, however are still halted by unknown GUI installer troubles. I will again recommend you give the TUI installer a try by issuing the command 'install' at the initial 'boot:' prompt. In previous VL6 testing you did the TUI installer was not available - this time it is and works fairly well. The TUI installer lacks some of the functionality of the GUI installer but for the most part it works well.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: stretchedthin on July 05, 2011, 11:10:55 am
caieng
Sorry for jumping in late of this, and you may have already answered this question, but how much space are you giving to root when you partition.

It occurs to me that a lot of the troubles could be do to giving to little space to root.  Also, explains why you install OK when you don't divide the partitions.

Again, sorry for not reading the full history, but needed to share a though.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: caieng on July 06, 2011, 10:57:12 am
 
Quote from: stretchedthin
how much space are you giving to root when you partition.

more than 15 GB.

CAI ENG
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on July 07, 2011, 12:12:54 am
Caleng,

Possibly your problem is related to dual booting.  I have never dual booted, so, if that is your situation, I probably cannot help.  But I load VL 6 so often (and lately VL7) I cannnot understand why you have these problems.  Sometimes I use the gui installer.  But I prefer the old installer.  I think you type "linux" or some such to get to it.  So I would start there.  When you start the computer with the install cd in the drive, at, I think, the first prompt, type "linux".  You can always try the gui installer if that doesn't work.  And then, at the next prompt (or at about the next prompt), do the fdisk thing, start at 0 and completely reformat your drive (if there is no data on it that you wish to save).  When I say "completely reformat" I mean set up a swap partitition, a root partition and a home partition.  Reformat all of them, unless you have data on the home partition, in which event do NOT format it.  15 gb certainly seems big enough for your root partition (but if you have enough space you might try 20 or 30 gb)...just in case.  Then, after a couple of screens, go get a beer and come back. After a few more screens you should be up and running.  Tben you can get drunk and chase women, one of my favorite passtimes.  
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on July 07, 2011, 06:00:08 pm
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Then you can get drunk and chase women, one of my favorite passtimes.  

John, where can I find that program about chasing-women? ;)
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 07, 2011, 06:47:36 pm
I doubt dual booting is the problem. I have dual-booted Linux with one or more versions of Windows for many years and two of the three computers I regularly use are dual boots. Your Mileage May Vary, of course.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on July 07, 2011, 11:08:35 pm
Pita,

Its an old dos program, if I recall.  Or perhaps cpm.  Its getting harder and harder to run it these days.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: nightflier on July 08, 2011, 05:34:40 am
Yeah, I have the same program. I used to run it all the time, but nowadays it has trouble keeping up with the newer offerings.
Title: Lenovo x61, Volume Keys, avahidnsconfd, Boot Screen
Post by: solex on July 09, 2011, 11:58:17 am
Just install VL7 on my Lenovo X61, what a really nice O/S.  I love the XFCE interface it is so nice looking...

Here are a couple of things I found to date:

1) I cannot control the speaker volume with the keyboard keys
2) This service "avahidnsconfd" fails to start, not sure what it does.
3) Also when the boot screen goes into a "command" window mode (all black window) it only shows in 800x600 is there a way to get it to view in 1024x768; the resolution of my screen.  The blue vector screen when booting shows the entire width of the screen.
4) Thunar is slow when opening larger directories like /usr/lib
5) will I be able to continue to use GSLAPT up to the final release to update my system?


Thanks,
Dan
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 09, 2011, 01:52:49 pm
solex,

The volume keys on my Dell laptop have never worked to control the volume in VectorLinux. I don't know if those keys work only in Windows or if there is some way you can get them to work in Linux. I run VL6 Light on that laptop. I have a PS/2 keyboard with volume keys attached to my Sempron desktop and those keys don't work in any Linux. I do have VL7 Standard RC2 on it. The volume keys work in Windows without any special keyboard driver.

Thunar is fairly slow to open large directories like /usr/bin on my computers, also.

>> will I be able to continue to use GSLAPT up to the final release to update my system? <<

If you mean will you be able to update to VL7 Standard Final with Gslapt, the answer is "no." You'll have to reinstall from scratch. VectorLinux does not have a version update option and you have to reinstall any new release, but you can copy many things from your earlier version if you can use a different partition for VL7 Final on your computer or you copy things you want to save such as your /home directory to other media. If you want to do that, there are some techniques for saving the ownership and permissions of your files. So ask here first if you want to go that way.

I don't know the answers to your other points.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Mrbasilsmudge on July 11, 2011, 09:04:00 am
 I have a x61s thinkpad attached to an ultabase, external keyboard and external monitor because the screen is cracked which makes it very difficult to work from. Other than the ext. Monitor resolution which can be rectified by fbset my only problem is the keyboard, generic uk USB, it works without a problem on my arch partitions, worked fine during install (I have gone through the process several times to check) and it works fine while navigating the grub menu but once I get to the post install keyboard/monitor configuration it refuses to work I can't even turn the num lock on.... I opened the lid to my laptop and found that I could happily type using that.... But... Once I got to the vector login screen... This failed resulting in not being able to use either keyboard.  although my main distribution is arch I leave a partition available to experiment with other distribution and have never encountered this problem before. Sadly as I am unable to access my vector system I can not comment on anything else :)
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on July 11, 2011, 09:21:16 am
It would sure be nice if I could print via the usb port to my HP laserjet 4mplus.  Cups simply does not see it when I try to add a new printer.

Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 11, 2011, 01:48:38 pm
It would sure be nice if I could print via the usb port to my HP laserjet 4mplus.  Cups simply does not see it when I try to add a new printer.

That's a pretty old printer. Does it come with USB or are you connecting the printer's parallel port cable to a parallel-to-USB adapter? Either way, I have no solution. I'm just curious. I know some parallel-to-USB connections do not work well.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: vector on July 11, 2011, 06:24:48 pm
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It would sure be nice if I could print via the usb port to my HP laserjet 4mplus.  Cups simply does not see it when I try to add a new printer.
As granny suggested those parallel to usb convertor cables can be a little tricky in linux. I found a discussion on another forum that pretty much mirrors your problem, so you might try following the suggestions there.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=894223&page=2 (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=894223&page=2)
the basic procedure is this:
Quote
What worked for me was as follows;
1. Select System, Admin, Printing from the menu
2. Press New and when the dialogue box comes up for New Printer press forward and then select your printer (HP LJ4 in my case). I know this will not be for a USB connection but we'll fix that later.
3. Once you have selected your printer driver press Apply and when asked if you want to print a test page select No.
4. Now you have your printer driver installed you should see it in the Printer Configuration window. Right click on it and select properties.
5. Change the Device URL to parallel:/dev/usb/lp0 and press Apply.

Hope this helps and let us know if you have any success!!

Cheers,
Vec
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Joe1962 on July 12, 2011, 05:03:40 am
I'm still on RC1, so I can't tell if this was fixed already, but I don't see it in the repo, so...

We really need to add the last ntfsprogs to the iso. Either that, or upgrade to ntfs-3g_ntfsprogs-2011.4.12, since ntfsprogs was merged with ntfs-3g at that version.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Sty on July 12, 2011, 10:15:45 am
Okay, I've installed it on my laptop.

2 errors I found.
When installing I was going to mount my windows partition and clicked on other and crashed the installer to the grey screen. Didn't know how to get it back so I went ahead and rebooted it. An option to restart that may be wise to add later on (I never have been able to find one).
I have a Lenovo T61 laptop with an nVidia Quadro NVS 140M discrete graphics card. I know that my graphics suffered when displaying my mouse, instead of an arrow I showed a horizontal pixilish bar. I jumped over to nVidia and downloaded the latest driver and its working now (after a bit of a scare), but I seem to remember when I came onboard with VL 5 originally that included ATI and nVidia drivers. I'm guessing this has been removed due to size issues, but not sure.

Looks like a great distro guys. Working at updating to the latest Firefox and Opera (something that should probably be done before the final). Keeping up with Firefox is gonna be a nightmare with the new Mozilla release schedule...
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on July 12, 2011, 05:21:06 pm
Grannygeek

Quote
Does it come with USB or are you connecting the printer's parallel port cable to a parallel-to-USB adapter?

Best I can tell, it doesn't come with USB.  I am connecting the printer's parallel port cable to the Samsung's USB.

Thanks for the input.

John
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on July 12, 2011, 05:33:31 pm
Vec,

I was tied up today and off to a dinner now but will read the ubuntu forum article soon.  I tried a while adapting the ubuntu instructions to Vector but failed to get to the point where I could see the various printers.  The quoted ubuntu instructions could not be translated to Vector with my skills, due to differences in the interfaces. 

I did get on hp's site to see if I could directly download the driver for the laserjet 4mp.  It says something like hplip must be downloaded and installed to get the hp laserjet 4mp driver (and any of 2000 some other HP linux drivers).  Before downloading hplip from the HP website, I looked on my drive and found hplip at /usr/share.  I suspect that hplip came with VL 7 rc 2 as I don't recall downloading it before.   I will keep at it.  Perhaps I need to tell Cups where hplip is in order to see the printer drivers.  I just don't know right now.

Thanks much for the suggestions.  I suspect they will do the trick as my time frees up, perhaps this weekend.

John
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 12, 2011, 07:56:44 pm
sledgehammer,

Just use the driver offered by CUPS for your printer. You don't need anything from hplip.

Don't expect CUPS to show you your printer. Pick it out yourself. I have no experience with parallal-to-USB adapters, so I don't know how you can create a USB port for the printer.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on July 12, 2011, 08:19:21 pm
My old Epson LQ-300 24 Pin printer is connected with a parallel to usb adaptor
cable. I could never get it to print in VL-6. Only when Vl-6-LIght came out
suddenly cups found my printer. Ever since I kept that printer setting.
In /etc/cups/printers.conf it shows:  DeviceURI usb://Unknown/

Then again in the the alpha versions of VL7 I could not make to print this Epson and
a Brother printer as reported in this thread. Suddenly in the Beta version I think
cups could read both printers.  VL7-Live had no problem finding those printers.

When I print the first time after a reboot with the Epson I have to unplug first
the usb cable then replug and printer starts printing. If there is a problem cups not
finding my printers I just copy the printers.conf setting from its stored place, the original
from VL6-Light. That has never failed. Naturally the *.ppd files have to be there.

Sledgehammer may be you have the printer settings yet from VL-6 to use.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on July 13, 2011, 08:18:11 am
Grannygeek,

I don't know how to get Cups to show me a list of printers.  And I can't figure out how to get cups to offer me a printer.

Thx

John
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: M0E-lnx on July 13, 2011, 08:25:59 am
Grannygeek,

I don't know how to get Cups to show me a list of printers.  And I can't figure out how to get cups to offer me a printer.

Thx

John

Code: [Select]
# service cups restartOpen your web browser, and go to http://localhost:631
You will see the cups interface.
Click on "Administration"
Under "Printers" click "Add Printer". It will ask for user/password, enter your root and your root password
Follow the wizard.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on July 13, 2011, 04:31:25 pm
Thanks M0E-lnx,

I followed your instructions and get to a screen with the following (and, best I can tell, ONLY the following) choices:

Quote
"Local Printers:    _ SCSI Printer
                                _ HP Printer (HPLIP)
                                _ HP Fax (HPLIP)
Discovered Network Printers:    
Other Network Printers:    
                                _ Internet Printing Protocol (http)
                                _ Internet Printing Protocol (ipp)
                                _ LPD/LPR Host or Printer
                                _ AppSocket/HP JetDirect
                                _ Windows Printer via SAMBA
                                _ Backend Error Handler

                             (continue)"

Under VL 6, the above screen would also include a "_ usb ..." printer designation which I could click on and then follow (the wizard) to install my HP laserjet 4mp.  I don't get that choice now and clicking on the other choices seems to take me nowhere.  I tried another HP printer, a laserjet 6, with same result.

Any suggestions?  I received a ubuntu link the other day which I am going to parse this weekend. or earlier if time permits.  I'm pretty sure it contains the solution, once I come to understand it.

John
   
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: w2ibc on July 13, 2011, 05:01:04 pm
I installed today. pretty good.

cept ndiswrapper will NOT auto load. every reboot i have to keep doing modprobe ndiswrapper
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on July 13, 2011, 05:39:36 pm
Thanks M0E-lnx,

I followed your instructions and get to a screen with the following (and, best I can tell, ONLY the following) choices:

Quote
"Local Printers:    _ SCSI Printer
                                _ HP Printer (HPLIP)
                                _ HP Fax (HPLIP)
Discovered Network Printers:    
Other Network Printers:    
                                _ Internet Printing Protocol (http)
                                _ Internet Printing Protocol (ipp)
                                _ LPD/LPR Host or Printer
                                _ AppSocket/HP JetDirect
                                _ Windows Printer via SAMBA
                                _ Backend Error Handler

                             (continue)"

Under VL 6, the above screen would also include a "_ usb ..." printer designation which I could click on and then follow (the wizard) to install my HP laserjet 4mp.  I don't get that choice now and clicking on the other choices seems to take me nowhere.  I tried another HP printer, a laserjet 6, with same result.

Any suggestions?  I received a ubuntu link the other day which I am going to parse this weekend. or earlier if time permits.  I'm pretty sure it contains the solution, once I come to understand it.

John
   

This is the same problem I had with my printers. They just would  not show in cups.
Especially the Epson.

John if you could reinstall VL6 and provided the printer will show, safe
/etc/cups/ in a safe place then reinstall VL7 and copy that VL6 /etc/cups/
into VL7. I bet against your finest cigar that it will work. At least has worked
for me many times.

Make sure as well that you have your printer switched on before going into
http://localhost:631/admin. Has made a difference as well.

It also pays to have /etc backed-up regularly. Then you would have /etc/cups/ from VL6 now.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on July 14, 2011, 05:52:58 am
Pita,

I will accept the bet.  I fired up my old Thinkpad (VL 6) and copied /etc/cups to /etc/cups on my new samsung, after renaming the existing VL7 cups to /etc/cupsVL7.  I will try it when I get to the office later today.  

Thanks.  I think it will work as it shows a couple of my printers.  If so, tell me where to send the cigar.

BTW it was nice, when shutting down the Thinkpad, to have a clean shutdown.  My samsung, on VL 7, goes into a continuous loop on shutdown.  Don't know if that's samsung's or VL 7's problem.  

John

REPORT FROM OFFICE:  Pita, it worked but it still won't print.  It still doesn't see the printer.  I do get to see the printer in cups though:

Quote
hplj4-home   HPLJ4   home   HP LaserJet 4mp pcl3, hpcups 3.11.5   Idle - "Processing page 1..."

And: 

Quote
Description:   HPLJ4
Location:   home
Driver:   HP LaserJet 4mp pcl3, hpcups 3.11.5 (color, 2-sided printing)
Connection:   usb://Unknown/
Defaults:   job-sheets=none, none media=na_letter_8.5x11in sides=one-sided

An earlier post  by Vec suggests that the solution, at least in ubuntu, is to change the connection from usb to parallel by modifing the printer's properties.  However, I see no way in cups to change the connection. 

I am going to read up on the ubuntu solution this weekend.  Perhaps you will still get the cigar.

Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: w2ibc on July 14, 2011, 05:55:56 pm
I installed today. pretty good.

cept ndiswrapper will NOT auto load. every reboot i have to keep doing modprobe ndiswrapper

also beside the above issue. on the weather applet in the dock, how the heck you set it to read F instead of C
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on July 14, 2011, 06:14:47 pm
Pita,

I will accept the bet.  I fired up my old Thinkpad (VL 6) and copied /etc/cups to /etc/cups on my new samsung, after renaming the existing VL7 cups to /etc/cupsVL7.  I will try it when I get to the office later today.  

Thanks.  I think it will work as it shows a couple of my printers.  If so, tell me where to send the cigar.

BTW it was nice, when shutting down the Thinkpad, to have a clean shutdown.  My samsung, on VL 7, goes into a continuous loop on shutdown.  Don't know if that's samsung's or VL 7's problem.  

John

REPORT FROM OFFICE:  Pita, it worked but it still won't print.  It still doesn't see the printer.  I do get to see the printer in cups though:

Quote
hplj4-home   HPLJ4   home   HP LaserJet 4mp pcl3, hpcups 3.11.5   Idle - "Processing page 1..."

And: 

Quote
Description:   HPLJ4
Location:   home
Driver:   HP LaserJet 4mp pcl3, hpcups 3.11.5 (color, 2-sided printing)
Connection:   usb://Unknown/
Defaults:   job-sheets=none, none media=na_letter_8.5x11in sides=one-sided

An earlier post  by Vec suggests that the solution, at least in ubuntu, is to change the connection from usb to parallel by modifing the printer's properties.  However, I see no way in cups to change the connection. 

I am going to read up on the ubuntu solution this weekend.  Perhaps you will still get the cigar.



In cups printers you see your printer. Click on it then there is a small window
Administration click on the arrow for a pull-down. Then click on "Set As Server Default".
That will make the printer the default. It should show in a terminal giving
command "lpq" and replay should be "your  printer is ready no entries".

If you get this you should be set to print. As I mentioned for my Epson printer
I have to first pull the usb plug out and in before it starts printing.

Good luck!
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: di98jgu on July 15, 2011, 04:04:25 pm
Hey

A bit of help needed and few comments...

Just installed the latest Vector 7.0. Works well, just had a few issues so far
- Confirm post 7 by Andy Price about the other option during installation.
- Missing icons here and there, I figure it out.
- Xfce clipman from repos did not work, complained about exo-0.3. Downloaded the source and after minor changes in the configure file it now work with exo-0.6. Well it have not crashed yet at least.
- And a serious firewall problem. 

The firewall problem happens during start up and shut down of the computer. I would be happy if you could help me to solve it.

During start up I get

" starting Firewall......WARNING: all config needs .conf: /etc/modeprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release
WARNING: all config needs .conf: /etc/modeprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release
WARNING: all config needs .conf: /etc/modeprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release
...
starting default firewall ..."

No loop but first there is a "Firewall" and then a "default firewall". Two different firewalls ?


At shut down I get something similar but now in an eternal loop.
It goes like this

" Stopping Firewall...............WARNING: all config needs .conf: /etc/modeprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release.
WARNING: all config needs .conf: /etc/modeprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release.
WARNING: all config needs .conf: /etc/modeprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release.
...
Stopping firewall ...
Stopping Firewall...............WARNING: all config needs .conf: /etc/modeprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release.
WARNING: all config needs .conf: /etc/modeprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release.
WARNING: all config needs .conf: /etc/modeprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release.
...
Stopping firewall ...
Stopping Firewall...............WARNING: all config needs .conf: /etc/modeprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release.
..."

Note the difference in stopping firewall, again two different firewalls.

The sound issue is an easy one. The configuration file for sound found in /etc/modeprobe.d is without its compulsory .conf ending, thus the warning.

But the sound warning have nothing to do with the firewall problem. Clearly there is a script going in a loop somewhere involving both firewall and the configure file for sound.

sledgehamm report the same issue
http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=14343.15

He speculate that linphone had something do to with this. But no, it is not the case. I had this problem at the first login after installation.

I would like to debug it, any ideas ?

Greetings
// JG
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on July 16, 2011, 09:04:12 am
My computer is freezing now, pretty regularly (once or twice a day), requiring hard shutdown. Don't know if its samsung's or VL7's fault.  Only that it never froze with thinkpad and VL6.

John
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 16, 2011, 01:50:37 pm
My computer is freezing now, pretty regularly (once or twice a day), requiring hard shutdown. Don't know if its samsung's or VL7's fault.  Only that it never froze with thinkpad and VL6.

A couple of us have reported that issue with VL7. It doesn't happen to me once or twice a day, but it does happen often enough that I notice it. Usually it happens while I'm using a browser. I use Opera most frequently but I don't know if it's an Opera thing. I know that yesterday it happened while I was using SeaMonkey.

I can't find anything in /var/log files to hint at what's happening.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: di98jgu on July 16, 2011, 02:57:41 pm
Hey

I must have made an mistake since my previous post disappeared, so I make a new attempt.

I wrote a few hallo word in the /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall and /etc/rc.d/init.d/firewall in hope to be more precise.

Should mention that I know next to nothing about firewalls and very little about bash.

First and most important is that VASM start as it should. I use VASM to set my
firewall. So the problem is shut down, the computer get stuck in a loop. See my previous (first) post.

During shut down init.d/firewall is run and it call rc.firewall.

In rc.firewall we find
Code: [Select]
  stop)
    echo "Stopping firewall ..."
    ## if exist, stop the new default firewall service 
    if [ -x $service_firewall ]; then
      service firewall stop
    else
      firewall_stop
    fi
    ;;
   
The first option "service firewall stop" is run during shut down. The stop of firewall service result in a call to init.d/firewall. We have our loop.

I tried
Code: [Select]
f [ -x $service_firewall ]; then
      firewall_stop
      #service firewall stop
    else
And the computer now shut down is it should. But it does not solve the problem really. It is just a ugly work around.

Any ideas ?

Greetings
// JG
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on July 16, 2011, 07:51:37 pm
Disabling click on mousepad

This is probably not a bug, but I set Option "TapButton" "1" (and 2 and 3) to zero in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf and it doesn't disable the clicking function.  I think it should.

John
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Compact on July 17, 2011, 06:50:46 am
PLOP booting doesn't work anymore

One of the strong things of VectorLinux (VL6.0-light-live-final) was for me the fact
that it was able to boot and run, with the use of PLOP Boot Manager, from usb devices where
the mainboard bios itself can't boot from.
This possibility seems to have vanished in VL7.0-std-live-rc2. For now Vector is not able
to find the livecd.sgn file anymore. And this is very pitty because there are not many distro's
who worked together with PLOP right out of the box. Vector was one of the very 'seldom' ones.
This is also not a bug bug even so I think it's important to mention.

Friendly Greetings, Compact
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on July 17, 2011, 02:36:08 pm
It froze twice during the world cup (connected to TV via hdmi).  Probably why we lost.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on July 17, 2011, 08:54:43 pm
It froze twice during the world cup (connected to TV via hdmi).  Probably why we lost.

No doubt, there must be life after VL6. ;)
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 18, 2011, 10:32:06 am
I had one of those annoying lockups this morning. No browser was running. I was listening to local music files with VLC. The music continued to play but I could not get control of keyboard or mouse, so had no alternative but shutting off the computer with the power switch. It's not really a lockup, it's loss of control of keyboard and mouse, neither of which responds at all.

This happened on the Sempron computer. I don't use the Athlon 64 enough to know if it would also happen there. It doesn't happen on the laptop with VL6 Light.

I think there is a bug somewhere because a number of us have reported this behavior (no keyboard, no mouse). It would be excellent if it could be squashed before VL7 Final.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: M0E-lnx on July 18, 2011, 10:44:33 am
Sounds like a kernel hang... I had plenty of those in the beta days.  Try to get a kernel dump from dmesg.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: budulay on July 18, 2011, 02:09:05 pm
Tried installing audacious with RC2 and it seems that libguess is missing from the repo.
Code: [Select]
root:# slapt-get --install audacious
Reading Package Lists...Done
Excluding audacious, use --ignore-dep to override
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  audacious: Depends: libguess >= 1.0
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 18, 2011, 03:03:28 pm
I don't know how to get a kernel dump from dmesg. Of course, when the no keyboard/no mouse situation occurs, I can't run dmesg or look at any logs or anything else. But I've looked in /var/log/syslog, var/log/messages, and /var/log/debug and haven't found anything around the time the lockup occurred that would give a hint as to what's going on.

From experience I can say that it seems totally random, not related to any particular program, not when the system is straining with a lot going on. To me it seems like some process has taken over the system and won't give space to operate the keyboard or mouse. But I can't check this out at all.

I'll be happy to troubleshoot if I'm told what to do.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on July 18, 2011, 05:36:29 pm
Good points, Granny.

I guess my use of the term "froze" or "freezes" is a bit strong.  For example, when it locked up twice yesterday during the World Cup I could still hear the sound.  But the keyboard and the mouse would not do anything.

John
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on July 18, 2011, 05:45:10 pm
BTW,

Ghostscript doesn't work.

John
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 19, 2011, 01:18:18 pm
I think I've mentioned this before, but if not, here it is.

Would it be possible to include an application that can copy video DVDs, such as K3B? I haven't found such a function in XFburn. It's something I have to do regularly. I installed K3B in RC1 but was hoping to avoid KDE stuff this time. So when I need to copy a DVD, I boot to Windows and use Nero. I'd prefer to stay in Linux, of course.

Does the brasero program copy video DVDs? I've never tried it. The Web site does mention copying DVDs but it wasn't clear to me that it would copy video DVDs.

Is there a way to copy a DVD from a terminal prompt? I don't mind doing it that way but I'd need help on setting up the proper command. I've researched it a bit but whatever I read was beyond my understanding.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: newt on July 19, 2011, 01:56:20 pm
gg, an idea that might pan out for DVD copying with Nero:
I've used NeroLinux a couple times in the past (v2 and v3), and they installed and worked great under older versions of VL. I'm not certain of it's dependencies (if any) but I know that they worked under a standard 5.x/6.x XFCE install that contained no Gnome or KDE. The v3 that I test a while back seemed to contain all (or most) of the functionality of the Windows-based v6 series, and my understanding is that v4 has improved on that a fair amount. You can grab a v4 trial version just to test out, and the upgrade price from Trial to Full is ~$16 US.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on July 19, 2011, 08:35:19 pm

Does the brasero program copy video DVDs? I've never tried it. The Web site does mention copying DVDs but it wasn't clear to me that it would copy video DVDs.
--GrannyGeek

Brasero has a function saying: Disc copy,  create a 1:1 copy of a CD/DVD.

I never tried it, only burning CDs.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: nightflier on July 20, 2011, 02:42:33 am
I'm experiencing trouble with Xarchiver throwing errors when creating an archive and adding files. Got it to work a few times, but most of the time archive is incomplete. Would other testers please check that out?
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: stretchedthin on July 20, 2011, 08:38:58 am
I'm experiencing trouble with Xarchiver throwing errors when creating an archive and adding files. Got it to work a few times, but most of the time archive is incomplete. Would other testers please check that out?

Nightflier, are you wanting this testing on live version standard are both  Also, is there any format in particular you would like tested. Are you using directories and files or just files.

I was able to create a tar.gz and a tar.xz without much issue on standard and live, also added and empty txt file.
Ken
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: stretchedthin on July 20, 2011, 09:11:03 am
This issue is for people who have installed the live version to test.
After installing I found I could not mount any of my thumb drives.  Upon inspection I saw the media folder was missing from /
Did a mkdir /media as root and created the folder and was able to use thumbdrives again.

I used unetbootin for my install, was wondering if anyone who had used CD version of live to install had same issue.
Ken
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: nightflier on July 20, 2011, 10:19:52 am
Nightflier, are you wanting this testing on live version

Live is good for testing. Launching Xarchiver from the menu. I get consistent errors with .bz2 and .rar formats. I can add one file or folder, but after that the icon for adding more is grayed out. Some times I get errors, others I don't. Maybe it's Virtualbox.. I need to move to real hardware for testing.

Edit: Granted, this is on the same hardware, but running live off a CD, using Xarchiver to create an achive, add a folder (Desktop), close and then re-open it, only works as expected with .tar.bz2, .tar.gz, .tar.lzma, .tar.xz, .jar and .zip. All other formats produce errors. If I'm the only one experiencing those problems, I need to go shopping for new hardware. :(
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: hata_ph on July 20, 2011, 06:27:53 pm
No problem for me create, add, delete tar.gz bz2 from RC2  ::)
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 20, 2011, 06:42:44 pm
Brasero has a function saying: Disc copy,  create a 1:1 copy of a CD/DVD.

I never tried it, only burning CDs.

Maybe I'll make the ultimate sacrifice, install it, and report the results.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on July 21, 2011, 04:14:14 am

Maybe I'll make the ultimate sacrifice, install it, and report the results.
--GrannyGeek

Harakiri? Wakaranai! How could you report after?
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: nightflier on July 21, 2011, 07:51:52 am
No problem for me create, add, delete tar.gz bz2 from RC2  ::)

.tar.gz and .tar.bz2 work for me as well.

However, on 3 different computers (4 if you count Virtualbox), using VL7.0-STD-LIVE-RC2.iso (md5sum checked, burned at 8x), when I click Menu > Accessories > Xarchiver >> Create new archive > type "test" and accept defaults > Add > double-click Desktop > OK ...  I get an error. A file is added to the archive, but it is a plain text file with the contents of the .desktop files in the folder. When I go down the list of formats, about half of them work.

The same thing happens on my HDD installed version of RC2. Maybe it's the heat wave we're experiencing in Ohio?
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: stretchedthin on July 21, 2011, 11:58:43 am
No problem for me create, add, delete tar.gz bz2 from RC2  ::)

.tar.gz and .tar.bz2 work for me as well.

However, on 3 different computers (4 if you count Virtualbox), using VL7.0-STD-LIVE-RC2.iso (md5sum checked, burned at 8x), when I click Menu > Accessories > Xarchiver >> Create new archive > type "test" and accept defaults > Add > double-click Desktop > OK ...  I get an error. A file is added to the archive, but it is a plain text file with the contents of the .desktop files in the folder. When I go down the list of formats, about half of them work.

The same thing happens on my HDD installed version of RC2. Maybe it's the heat wave we're experiencing in Ohio?

OK so here is my test.
For bz2, gz, lzma, xz, lzh, rar, 7z and tar.
I started out by compressing just a single file.
Each worked exept for ....
 xz ( which produced a segmentation fault error)
rar (which said "No such process rar)
7z seemed to work, but the compression was corrupted and the file could not be opened afterwards.
and fwiw the best compression came from....lzma.  Worst was tar with no compression at all.

Next tried compressing mulitiple file and folders.
bz2, gz, lzma, xz,   will not let you select more than one file (perhaps that's all it is designed for.  This would also explain why they don't work with folders.)
rar produced the same error (of course), but allowed for the selection of more than one file.
lzh, tar, zip, jar, tar.xz, tar.lzma, tar.gz and tar.bz2  for multiple files or folders...worked.





Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: budulay on July 21, 2011, 12:50:30 pm
I've been getting regular kernel panics on boot, right after the udev warnings. Finally got my hands on a camera and took a picture. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/kernelpanic.jpg
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 24, 2011, 10:50:05 am
My lose-keyboard-lose-mouse problem on the Sempron has gotten much worse in the past couple of days. It happened regularly within an hour and today it happened within 10 minutes of starting VL7. The computer is essentially unusable. This problem happens without warning and there is no trace of the cause in the logs that I could find.

The computer has not crashed. If I'm listening to music or have video running, it continues. But neither keyboard nor mouse responds, so the only way to regain control of computer is to turn it off with the power switch and restart.

I'm now trying to determine whether the problem is with the hardware or with Linux. I don't recall that I've ever had this happen when I run Windows on this computer. However, I usually don't spend enough time in Windows to know whether the keyboard and mouse would vanish eventually. I am now running Windows and will for several hours, which should give me a good idea of the situation.

I don't seem to have the problem on the Athlon 64 computer. Considering how hot it has been here the past several days, I thought maybe it was heat. However, given that the computer does not stop or slow down, I don't think it's heat. I did have the Sempron on for a few hours in console mode (no X) and I didn't have the problem. So I'm thinking maybe it has to do with X or with the nouveau driver. If I can keep the computer functioning long enough to install the proprietary NVidia driver, I'll see what happens. I'll also install VL7 on another partition just in case something got corrupted.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: newt on July 24, 2011, 12:41:45 pm
I've read a post from another user who had similar mouse/keyboard hanging issues on a sempron system and appending one or two arguments to the bootloader fixed the problem:
Append 'idle=poll' and/or 'maxcpus=1' to the (lilo) kernel parameters

Easy enough to try.

BTW, did you ever test out NeroLinux or did brasero work out better. Just wondering mostly about how easily NeroLinux installed, if you tried, and if at all.

EDIT: source: http://www.groupsrv.com/linux/about161699.html
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 24, 2011, 01:43:16 pm
Thanks, newt. When I next boot into Linux on the Sempron, I'll give that LILO modification a try. I have nothing to lose!

I didn't try NeroLinux (didn't know there was such a beast) or Bracero. I don't like to have computers on when it's beastly hot, plus I'm dealing with the no keyboard/no mouse problem. It's cooler today but right now I'm using Windows to see if I lose keyboard and mouse after several hours. So far no problems.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: stretchedthin on July 24, 2011, 01:47:28 pm
I've read a post from another user who had similar mouse/keyboard hanging issues on a sempron system and appending one or two arguments to the bootloader fixed the problem:
Append 'idle=poll' and/or 'maxcpus=1' to the (lilo) kernel parameters

Easy enough to try.

BTW, did you ever test out NeroLinux or did brasero work out better. Just wondering mostly about how easily NeroLinux installed, if you tried, and if at all.

Grannygeek, very curious to see if this works for you.  It does explain some things from my testing.  I've only been able to duplicate the freeze live installs on my nvidia laptop.  I don't believe you use an installed live version so that didn't tie in, but live does use lilo, which if this is right would make sense.  Can you confirm that you use lilo on the system that experiences the freezes, also, let us know if the fix works.  If it is not too much trouble it may be interesting if the same system had a fresh install using grub2 as the boot loader then see if the problem occurs.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 24, 2011, 03:28:16 pm
I do use LILO on the system that loses keyboard/mouse. I hope I'll have a chance to try the possible fix tomorrow. Right now I'm still in Windows on that system and no freezes, so I'm pretty sure this is a Linux problem.

I've never been able to get my head around grub, so I don't think I'll give that a try. My computers are grub-free zones.<g>
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Colonel Panic on July 25, 2011, 03:23:52 am
I pretty much agree with Granny here. Grub IMO seems to be a bit "hit and miss" where automatic installs are concerned, as opposed to LILO which pretty much always works IME when it's installed automatically. If you don't use any other distros there's probably no point in learning your way round Grub; even Absolute Linux (another Slack-based distro) uses LILO by default as well.

The impression I get is that Grub2 is more of a "crapshoot" than Grub 1, or Legacy, as well.

Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on July 25, 2011, 10:01:39 am
Quote
I don't like to have computers on when it's beastly hot,
GrannyGeek

Weather's wonderful here in Reno.  Lots of vacant houses, cheap.

John
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 25, 2011, 12:55:48 pm
I added
idle=poll
to my LILO parameters and so far, so good. I've had the system up about two hours and have been busy the whole time. The lockup would have occurred if it had followed the pattern of the last few days. I never did have the loss of keyboard and mouse in Windows (2-1/2 days up and pretty busy during that time).

I'm posting this message prematurely in order to bait the gremlins.<g> If I say "it's working," the gremlins will want to show me that it isn't. I probably shouldn't have posted this where the gremlins can see it.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 25, 2011, 02:52:42 pm
Over four hours now and keyboard/mouse haven't locked up. I'm now going to another computer but will leave this one on. When I was having the problem, it could happen even when the computer was idle. If it stays running without problems, that will be more encouraging evidence that the fix might be working.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Colonel Panic on July 26, 2011, 02:05:00 am
I've just downloaded a fresh ISO of RC2 and made a fresh install, and whilst it's a lot better than before I'm still getting the "no X11 keymaps" problem unfortunately. Is there an easy way of remedying it for the moment? Obviously I hope the devs will have a look at it too, as I'm guessing I'm not the only one with this problem.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 26, 2011, 01:13:57 pm
I had the computer on all night and everything was okay this morning. I stayed in Linux for a while, but then I had to boot into Windows because I wanted to watch some streaming videos that required Silverlight. The Moonlight plugin is not compatible with the latest Firefox and SeaMonkey, alas. Now I'm back in VL7 and so far things are fine.

I wondered what
idle=poll
was doing, so I googled it and found this:
Code: [Select]
919 idle= [X86]
920 Format: idle=poll, idle=mwait, idle=halt, idle=nomwait
921 Poll forces a polling idle loop that can slightly
922 improve the performance of waking up a idle CPU, but
923 will use a lot of power and make the system run hot.
924 Not recommended.

I haven't tried maxcpus=1 because the Sempron LE-1300 is a single-core processor and does not do hyperthreading. It is a low-energy CPU and is cool by nature. I don't think it can "use a lot of power" but I'm sure it can run hot within its capabilities.

So I'm still hoping for a less drastic solution, but if I can't find one, I'll stick with idle=poll.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: newt on July 26, 2011, 01:47:05 pm
I read a different post from a user who was unable to boot an ubuntu live cd, yet appending the 'idle=' options enabled successful booting of the CD. The person initially used 'idle=poll' which worked but has the possible high power consumption and increased battery-draining aspect. They then tried 'idle=mwait' and it also fixed the booting issue, and they noticed a decrease in discharging amperage (battery) rate along with cooler cpu temperatures. It's easy enough to try to see if it will help or not. Source: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1087893.html

Going back to maxcpus: I know you said that your processor is a single-core without hyperthreading, BUT I wonder if this would make a difference anyway. Assuming it resolves the problem, it would seem that there's no harm in explicitly telling the kernel that you have a single processor. I wouldn't expect it to resolve your freezing problems, but I've seen oddly unrelated fixes solve strange computer problems.

HTH.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 26, 2011, 03:47:23 pm
Thanks, newt. These are things I don't understand very well, and truth be told, I'm not much interested in them except insofar as they might solve a problem. I can certainly experiment more.

This computer is a desktop, so battery life is not an issue. If tomorrow goes as expected, I'll experiment with idle=mwait and maxcpus.

>> I've seen oddly unrelated fixes solve strange computer problems >>

For sure! It does make you wonder what's going on in these mysterious machines.<g>
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on July 27, 2011, 12:34:10 am
Kremlins at work ???

I booted into installed VL7-RC2-LIVE which I have on second HD. Installed cheese. Gnome-desktop would
could not be installed may be on account of poor connection which timed-out.
Then I tried to reboot into my main box on master HD and got kernel panic.
It said /dev/sdb6 could not be found.

Booted with the live CD VL7 and to my surprise what used to be sdb* had
changed to sdc*. Checking fstab in /mnt/sda5 my main box it showed it had
changed as well, root had become /dev/sdb6. Correcting it to /dev/sda5 and
changing all /dev/sdb* to /dev/sdc* I was then able to boot into my main box
w/o doing a new lilo.

How could my fstab be changed and how did sdb change to sdc? If not for
kremlins at work what other explanation could there be. /dev/sda5 was not
even mounted when I was in VL7. Or something sinister in VL7-RC2?
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: nightflier on July 28, 2011, 10:20:20 am
Sound card on my newest computer not recognized when running valsaconf.  :(
Code: [Select]
root:# lspci | grep Audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: newt on July 28, 2011, 11:33:40 am
Thanks, newt. These are things I don't understand very well, and truth be told, I'm not much interested in them except insofar as they might solve a problem. I can certainly experiment more.

This computer is a desktop, so battery life is not an issue. If tomorrow goes as expected, I'll experiment with idle=mwait and maxcpus.

>> I've seen oddly unrelated fixes solve strange computer problems >>

For sure! It does make you wonder what's going on in these mysterious machines.<g>
--GrannyGeek
I could have sworn I saw a follow-up post from you indicating that you had implemented 'maxcpus' and removed 'idle=poll', but I'm not seeing it now. Was it another thread or was it pruned from this bug thread? Moderated? Deleted by you? Or am I just crazy and I never really saw it :o
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on July 28, 2011, 05:49:42 pm
I could have sworn I saw a follow-up post from you indicating that you had implemented 'maxcpus' and removed 'idle=poll', but I'm not seeing it now. Was it another thread or was it pruned from this bug thread? Moderated? Deleted by you? Or am I just crazy and I never really saw it :o

I think I did post a very short message saying I added maxcpus=1 and removed idle=poll. I don't see it, though. I *think* it was in this thread but maybe I made a mistake and put it somewhere else.

Anyway, I did not have keyboard/mouse lockups with maxcpus=1 but I don't feel I ran it long enough to be confident that it fixed things as idle=poll did.

I made a big change today when I removed the GeForce video card from the Sempron and put it in the Athlon 64. I haven't yet started the computers to see how the change went.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: MikeCindi on July 28, 2011, 08:05:59 pm
GrannyGeek I also saw your post where you indicated trying maxcpus=1 and that it had been running for a few hours without any lockups. Interesting that it is not here now.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Colonel Panic on July 29, 2011, 06:31:18 am
I've just downloaded a fresh ISO of RC2 and made a fresh install, and whilst it's a lot better than before I'm still getting the "no X11 keymaps" problem unfortunately. Is there an easy way of remedying it for the moment? Obviously I hope the devs will have a look at it too, as I'm guessing I'm not the only one with this problem.

Bumped

Can someone else please try to change the keyboard to a UK one as I have done, and see whether or not it works? If it does I'll just assume it's my computer that's at fault.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: stretchedthin on July 29, 2011, 06:58:34 am
I've just downloaded a fresh ISO of RC2 and made a fresh install, and whilst it's a lot better than before I'm still getting the "no X11 keymaps" problem unfortunately. Is there an easy way of remedying it for the moment? Obviously I hope the devs will have a look at it too, as I'm guessing I'm not the only one with this problem.

Bumped

Can someone else please try to change the keyboard to a UK one as I have done, and see whether or not it works? If it does I'll just assume it's my computer that's at fault.

I'll try when I get home from work, sadly that's like 10 hours from now. Will post my results when done.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Colonel Panic on July 29, 2011, 10:58:19 am
Thanks, and no hurry.

Cheers,

CP .
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on July 29, 2011, 06:02:58 pm
Quote

Can someone else please try to change the keyboard to a UK one as I have done, and see whether or not it works?
If it does I'll just assume it's my computer that's at fault.

I booted into VL7-LIVE and on a terminal gave the command "setxkbmap gb" and the KB was changed to UK.
Characters on US KB \ | " ' @ #  became  ~ # @ ' " £ . I don't know how you set the KB map. I just make a small script
with above command. Put it in a launcher on the panel. I work with 3 maps, us, de and fr and can change them that way
easily. If the given command works on your computer and you use only the gb map I suggest to put it into /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
My computer is an old desktop PC.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: stretchedthin on July 29, 2011, 09:50:41 pm
I've just downloaded a fresh ISO of RC2 and made a fresh install, and whilst it's a lot better than before I'm still getting the "no X11 keymaps" problem unfortunately. Is there an easy way of remedying it for the moment? Obviously I hope the devs will have a look at it too, as I'm guessing I'm not the only one with this problem.

Bumped

Can someone else please try to change the keyboard to a UK one as I have done, and see whether or not it works? If it does I'll just assume it's my computer that's at fault.

Seems there is a problem with the vasm module that changes keyboard layout. specifically
/sbin/vxkbset.  Going to have to take a long look at this, but even though it's bash it uses some coding I have not seen before. So I may need some help.

On the other hand there are some other ways to accomplish what you want to do.
As Pita has mentioned just use "setxkbmap gb"  or right click on the xfce-panel choose add new items and keyboard layouts.
I was able to switch successfully to a gb layout doing that as well.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on July 29, 2011, 11:50:22 pm
Quote

Seems there is a problem with the vasm module that changes keyboard layout. specifically
/sbin/vxkbset.  Going to have to take a long look at this, but even though it's bash it uses some coding I have not seen before. So I may need some help.

On the other hand there are some other ways to accomplish what you want to do.
As Pita has mentioned just use "setxkbmap gb"  or right click on the xfce-panel choose add new items and keyboard layouts.
I was able to switch successfully to a gb layout doing that as well.


Except this keyboard-applet does not behave correctly as I have reported on this thread. It kind of switches back on its
on will. 
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Colonel Panic on July 30, 2011, 12:47:15 am
Quote

Can someone else please try to change the keyboard to a UK one as I have done, and see whether or not it works?
If it does I'll just assume it's my computer that's at fault.

I booted into VL7-LIVE and on a terminal gave the command "setxkbmap gb" and the KB was changed to UK.
Characters on US KB \ | " ' @ #  became  ~ # @ ' " £ . I don't know how you set the KB map. I just make a small script
with above command. Put it in a launcher on the panel. I work with 3 maps, us, de and fr and can change them that way
easily. If the given command works on your computer and you use only the gb map I suggest to put it into /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
My computer is an old desktop PC.

Thanks for the tip. I typed in "set xkbmap gb" and the keyboard map changed to a gb one just as I hoped!

Cheers,

CP .
Title: WEBCAM TOOLS 4 PHOTOS/VIDEO
Post by: vincent2 on August 02, 2011, 02:59:27 am
Bonjour!
still expecting the release of RC3,so far  RT2870 based wifi usb still not working with the driver in VL7 mirror, only had to resort to driver from Ralink company web site....
additional, hyuandai web cam usb does work with latest skype  beta 2.2.0.35, but mic signal very very weak no matter how adjust volume/or setting alsamixer,also no ringing tone can be heard as well....
here's hyuandai web cam device id:
-----------------------
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05e3:1205 Genesys Logic, Inc. Afilias Optical Mouse H3003
-----------------------
ANYONE CAN SUGGEST A FEW TOOLS TO TAKE PHOTOS/VIDEO WITH THIS WEB CAM? AS VLC NO LONGER BEING SUPPORTED BY VL7 AND CAN'T BE INSTALLED...


A BIEN TOT
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: vincent2 on August 02, 2011, 03:04:50 am
I could have sworn I saw a follow-up post from you indicating that you had implemented 'maxcpus' and removed 'idle=poll', but I'm not seeing it now. Was it another thread or was it pruned from this bug thread? Moderated? Deleted by you? Or am I just crazy and I never really saw it :o

I think I did post a very short message saying I added maxcpus=1 and removed idle=poll. I don't see it, though. I *think* it was in this thread but maybe I made a mistake and put it somewhere else.

Anyway, I did not have keyboard/mouse lockups with maxcpus=1 but I don't feel I ran it long enough to be confident that it fixed things as idle=poll did.

I made a big change today when I removed the GeForce video card from the Sempron and put it in the Athlon 64. I haven't yet started the computers to see how the change went.
--GrannyGeek

BONJOUR!

Pls. try editing your /etc/lilo.conf, adding following line:
---------------
append="idle=pool"
append="maxcpus=1"
---------------
you 'll get much more stable and fast laptop/PC  , runing a few  days non stop....pas de problem a tous
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: gnomic on August 02, 2011, 03:29:15 am
Posting from Live RC2. Just wondering whether the problem with user vl mounting a usb flash drive has been resolved? 'Error creating moint [sic] point: No such file or directory'. Haven't seen anything here indicating this has been fixed. It is a bit of a SHOW STOPPER imho.

For something slightly different, I see reference to a Light alpha on Distrowatch. Is this a secret project? Just wondering why it doesn't seem to be mentioned in these forums, or have I missed something?
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: vincent2 on August 02, 2011, 05:10:56 am
hyuandai web cam usb does work with latest skype  beta 2.2.0.35,
web cam device id:
-----------------------
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05e3:1205 Genesys Logic, Inc. Afilias Optical Mouse H3003
-----------------------
SKYPE CRASHES A LOT ONCE STARTING WEB CAM,SOMETIMES SKYPE KEPT CRASHING

ANY FIXING COMMANDS?
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: nightflier on August 02, 2011, 05:22:09 am
I see reference to a Light alpha on Distrowatch. Is this a secret project?

Not secret, just not ready for public testing yet. PM me if you want more details.
Title: Re: WEBCAM TOOLS 4 PHOTOS/VIDEO
Post by: stretchedthin on August 02, 2011, 09:01:33 am

-----------------------
ANYONE CAN SUGGEST A FEW TOOLS TO TAKE PHOTOS/VIDEO WITH THIS WEB CAM? AS VLC NO LONGER BEING SUPPORTED BY VL7 AND CAN'T BE INSTALLED...


A BIEN TOT

What errors are you getting installing VLC? Please double check you have 'extra repository enabled in gslapt'
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on August 02, 2011, 07:42:31 pm
Suspend may need attention.  It works fine so far as suspending, battery saving, etc is concerned, and if one unsuspends pretty quick, it unsuspends fine.  However, if this machine is suspended for a long time (e.g. an hour or two), on "unsuspend" (pushing power button) it comes up OK but the GUI is not active and the computer doesn't work.  So I do something like cntrl-alt-backspace (or delete, I forget) and it logs out of the GUI, whereupon I can then log in normally and it works fine.  I do this often as it is faster than a reboot. But it would be nice if it came out of a long suspend into a workable GUI. 
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: stretchedthin on August 02, 2011, 09:26:28 pm
hyuandai web cam usb does work with latest skype  beta 2.2.0.35,
web cam device id:
-----------------------
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05e3:1205 Genesys Logic, Inc. Afilias Optical Mouse H3003
-----------------------
SKYPE CRASHES A LOT ONCE STARTING WEB CAM,SOMETIMES SKYPE KEPT CRASHING

ANY FIXING COMMANDS?

In a terminal try...
LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype

or if that does not work try...
LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype

Please post if one of these does the trick for you.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: vincent2 on August 02, 2011, 10:09:39 pm
hyuandai web cam usb does work with latest skype  beta 2.2.0.35,
web cam device id:
-----------------------
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05e3:1205 Genesys Logic, Inc. Afilias Optical Mouse H3003
-----------------------
SKYPE CRASHES A LOT ONCE STARTING WEB CAM,SOMETIMES SKYPE KEPT CRASHING

ANY FIXING COMMANDS?

In a terminal try...
LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype

or if that does not work try...
LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype

Please post if one of these does the trick for you.

but still skype keeps crashing...
here's log:
 LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so ./skype
libv4l2: error dequeuing buf: Device or resource busy
*** glibc detected *** ./skype: double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x0ad688e8 ***
======= Backtrace: =========
/lib/libc.so.6(+0x714ae)[0xb70ad4ae]
/lib/libc.so.6(cfree+0x70)[0xb70b1050]
/usr/lib/libX11.so.6(XFree+0x1d)[0xb744711d]
./skype[0x8175e16]
./skype[0x817493e]
./skype[0x9566e7c]
./skype[0x956813d]
./skype[0x8fa668e]
./skype[0x8f6547f]
./skype[0x8f6c512]
./skype[0x955a917]
./skype[0x955b8bb]
./skype[0x955baad]
./skype[0x957950d]
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_main_context_dispatch+0x1d2)[0xb7331512]
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(+0x40cf0)[0xb7331cf0]
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_main_context_iteration+0x64)[0xb7331fa4]
./skype[0x9579ab8]
./skype[0x8fd7fd5]
./skype[0x95599dd]
./skype[0x9559c3a]
./skype[0x955bb62]
./skype[0x8f64f87]
./skype[0x805db83]
/lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe6)[0xb7052db6]
./skype[0x805c071]
======= Memory map: ========
08048000-09c10000 rwxp 00000000 08:08 49875458   /home/vl7stdrc1/skype_static-2.2.0.35/skype
09c10000-0b0b4000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0          [heap]
afe89000-aff1f000 rwxs 001c2000 00:05 14986      /dev/video0
aff1f000-affb5000 rwxs 0012c000 00:05 14986      /dev/video0
affb5000-b004b000 rwxs 00096000 00:05 14986      /dev/video0
b004b000-b00e1000 rwxs 00000000 00:05 14986      /dev/video0
b00e1000-b00e2000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b00e2000-b08e1000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b08e1000-b08e2000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b08e2000-b10e1000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b10e1000-b1b30000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 18579131   /usr/share/fonts/TTF/wqy-zenhei.ttf
b1b30000-b1b31000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b1b31000-b1bb0000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b1bb0000-b1bb1000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b1bb1000-b23b0000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b23b0000-b23b1000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b23b1000-b2bb0000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b2bb0000-b2bb1000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b2bb1000-b33b0000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b33ba000-b34e7000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 16801801   /lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8
b34e7000-b34fd000 rwxp 0012d000 08:06 16801801   /lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8
b34fd000-b3500000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b3500000-b359b000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b359b000-b3600000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b3613000-b3657000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 16801800   /lib/libssl.so.0.9.8
b3657000-b365b000 rwxp 00044000 08:06 16801800   /lib/libssl.so.0.9.8
b365b000-b3700000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 18967629   /usr/share/fonts/TTF/DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf
b3700000-b3701000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b3701000-b3780000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b3780000-b3781000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b3781000-b3800000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b3800000-b385c000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b385c000-b3900000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b390a000-b391b000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 18447715   /usr/share/fonts/TTF/luxisr.ttf
b391b000-b393d000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 18777113   /usr/share/fonts/TTF/LiberationSans-Regular.ttf
b393d000-b3951000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 16882609   /lib/libresolv-2.13.so
b3951000-b3952000 r-xp 00014000 08:06 16882609   /lib/libresolv-2.13.so
b3952000-b3953000 rwxp 00015000 08:06 16882609   /lib/libresolv-2.13.so
b3953000-b3955000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b3955000-b395b000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 16882602   /lib/libnss_dns-2.13.so
b395b000-b395c000 r-xp 00005000 08:06 16882602   /lib/libnss_dns-2.13.so
b395c000-b395d000 rwxp 00006000 08:06 16882602   /lib/libnss_dns-2.13.so
b395d000-b395e000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b395e000-b39dd000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b39dd000-b39de000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b39de000-b3a5d000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b3a5d000-b3a5e000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b3a5e000-b5a5d000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b5a5d000-b5a5e000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b5a5e000-b625d000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b625d000-b625e000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b625e000-b6a5d000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b6a5d000-b6a5e000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b6a5e000-b6add000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b6add000-b6ade000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b6ade000-b6b5d000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b6b5d000-b6b5e000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b6b5e000-b6bdd000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b6bdd000-b6bde000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b6bde000-b6c5d000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b6c5d000-b6c67000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 16882603   /lib/libnss_files-2.13.so
b6c67000-b6c68000 r-xp 00009000 08:06 16882603   /lib/libnss_files-2.13.so
b6c68000-b6c69000 rwxp 0000a000 08:06 16882603   /lib/libnss_files-2.13.so
b6c69000-b6c72000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 16882605   /lib/libnss_nis-2.13.so
b6c72000-b6c73000 r-xp 00008000 08:06 16882605   /lib/libnss_nis-2.13.so
b6c73000-b6c74000 rwxp 00009000 08:06 16882605   /lib/libnss_nis-2.13.so
b6c74000-b6c7b000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 16882601   /lib/libnss_compat-2.13.so
b6c7b000-b6c7c000 r-xp 00006000 08:06 16882601   /lib/libnss_compat-2.13.so
b6c7c000-b6c7d000 rwxp 00007000 08:06 16882601   /lib/libnss_compat-2.13.so
b6c8a000-b6c9c000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 34970274   /usr/share/fonts/misc/6x13.pcf.gz
b6c9c000-b6cae000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 34563964   /usr/share/fonts/Type1/n019004l.pfb
b6cae000-b6d5e000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 18967640   /usr/share/fonts/TTF/DejaVuSans.ttf
b6d5e000-b6d6f000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 34563958   /usr/share/fonts/Type1/n019003l.pfb
b6d6f000-b6d70000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 57556919   /home/vl7stdrc1/skype_static-2.2.0.35/lang/skype_en.qm
b6d70000-b6d71000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b6d71000-b6df0000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b6df0000-b6df1000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b6df1000-b6e70000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b6e70000-b6e78000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 2941905    /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1.0.2
b6e78000-b6e79000 rwxp 00007000 08:06 2941905    /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1.0.2
b6e79000-b6e7d000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 2674669    /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3.1.0
b6e7d000-b6e7e000 rwxp 00003000 08:06 2674669    /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3.1.0
b6e84000-b6e99000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 16882600   /lib/libnsl-2.13.so
b6e99000-b6e9a000 r-xp 00014000 08:06 16882600   /lib/libnsl-2.13.so
b6e9a000-b6e9b000 rwxp 00015000 08:06 16882600   /lib/libnsl-2.13.so
b6e9b000-b6e9d000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
b6e9d000-b6eab000 r-xs 00000000 08:06 53561121   /var/cache/fontconfig/8d4af663993b81a124ee82e610bb31f9-le32d4.cache-3
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b6ef3000-b6ef4000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
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b7011000-b7015000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 2941909    /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6.0.0
b7015000-b7016000 rwxp 00003000 08:06 2941909    /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6.0.0
b7016000-b7017000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
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b73f0000-b73f1000 rwxp 000ff000 08:06 15470      /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.2800.7
b73f1000-b73f2000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
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b73f5000-b73f6000 rwxp 00003000 08:06 15476      /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0.2800.7
b73f6000-b7409000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 1447142    /usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.5
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b7563000-b7564000 rwxp 00000000 00:00 0
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b75e5000-b75e9000 rwxp 00080000 08:06 265        /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6.6.2
b75e9000-b75ef000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 2674791    /usr/lib/libXrandr.so.2.2.0
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b75f0000-b75f8000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 2674807    /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.3.0
b75f8000-b75f9000 rwxp 00007000 08:06 2674807    /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.3.0
b75f9000-b7605000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 2674710    /usr/lib/libXi.so.6.1.0
b7605000-b7606000 rwxp 0000b000 08:06 2674710    /usr/lib/libXi.so.6.1.0
b7606000-b761a000 r-xp 00000000 08:06 2899014    /usr/lib/libICE.so.6.3.0
b761a000-b761c000 rwxp 00013000 08:06 2899014    /usr/lib/libICE.so.6.3.0Aborted
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on August 03, 2011, 11:03:24 am
Quote
vincent2
"... skype keeps crashing."

Why not try twinkle or ekiga?  Now that Gates owns skype, best to make the move now rather than later.

John
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: gnomic on August 03, 2011, 05:40:57 pm
Hi, have had a look at Light Alpha 4, seems promising. BUT! a usb stick attached is ignored by PCManFM. What have you guys got against flash drives? (well aside from Stuxnet . . .  :-\/ ) dmesg shows the stick being recognised but the gui doesn't want anything to do with it afaict.

Interestingly I was able to play a DVD using an external optical drive attached via USB. Still no sign of a volume being mounted, but VLC was able to play the disc once pointed at the drive, in this case sr1.

Running lshal results in a message saying hald is not running by the way.

Anyway, guess that's enough LA4, but as there is no thread for it so far, comments here.

Will list machines I have run RC2 on in next day or 2 in case that is of interest.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on August 03, 2011, 06:02:53 pm
skype_static-2.2.0.35 runs perfectly in VL7-Live-Installed on my desktop PC,
voice as well as video.
Title: Re: WEBCAM TOOLS 4 PHOTOS/VIDEO
Post by: stretchedthin on August 03, 2011, 06:15:35 pm
Bonjour!
still expecting the release of RC3,so far  RT2870 based wifi usb still not working with the driver in VL7 mirror, only had to resort to driver from Ralink company web site....
additional, hyuandai web cam usb does work with latest skype  beta 2.2.0.35, but mic signal very very weak no matter how adjust volume/or setting alsamixer,also no ringing tone can be heard as well....
here's hyuandai web cam device id:
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Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05e3:1205 Genesys Logic, Inc. Afilias Optical Mouse H3003
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ANYONE CAN SUGGEST A FEW TOOLS TO TAKE PHOTOS/VIDEO WITH THIS WEB CAM? AS VLC NO LONGER BEING SUPPORTED BY VL7 AND CAN'T BE INSTALLED...


A BIEN TOT

The device shown here does not appear to be a webcam, a quick google seems to indicate it's a
Sunbeam Tech X-1300 Gaming Mouse.
Do you have an lsusb readout on your webcam?
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: nightflier on August 04, 2011, 07:23:48 am
Hi, have had a look at Light Alpha 4

We should have known, we would not be able to keep this hidden very long. After all, you guys are Linux users.  ;)
So it's official: http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=14826.0
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Joe1962 on August 05, 2011, 05:39:26 am
Suspend may need attention.  It works fine so far as suspending, battery saving, etc is concerned, and if one unsuspends pretty quick, it unsuspends fine.  However, if this machine is suspended for a long time (e.g. an hour or two), on "unsuspend" (pushing power button) it comes up OK but the GUI is not active and the computer doesn't work.  So I do something like cntrl-alt-backspace (or delete, I forget) and it logs out of the GUI, whereupon I can then log in normally and it works fine.  I do this often as it is faster than a reboot. But it would be nice if it came out of a long suspend into a workable GUI. 

I can confirm this. Also, I don't get audio back after resume (I am still on in RC1 though), it used to work in the Betas. Anybody know how to reset the alsa system / sound driver (or whatever) without a reboot?
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Pita on August 05, 2011, 08:28:05 pm


I can confirm this. Also, I don't get audio back after resume (I am still on in RC1 though), it used to work in the Betas. Anybody know how to reset the alsa system / sound driver (or whatever) without a reboot?


That one I would like to know too.  Tried switching to init 2 and back to 4, no dice.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on August 06, 2011, 08:55:34 am

Does the brasero program copy video DVDs? I've never tried it. The Web site does mention copying DVDs but it wasn't clear to me that it would copy video DVDs.
--GrannyGeek

Brasero has a function saying: Disc copy,  create a 1:1 copy of a CD/DVD.

I never tried it, only burning CDs.

I finally got around to installing Brasero on my Sempron desktop. It complained about missing /usr/lib/libgmime-2.4.so.2, so I made a symlink from /usr/lib/libgmime-2.6.so.0.507.0. Brasero then started without complaint. I haven't yet tried to burn anything and I don't have any DVDs to copy right now. However, I may try burning VL7 Light Live alpha and we'll see how things go.

I guess the missing /usr/lib/libgmime-2.4.so.2 dependency should be fixed in the package. VL7 Standard has libgmime-2.6 installed but Brasero thinks it wants libgmime-2.4. I didn't want to install the older version that I think puts it there, being afraid to mess up the system. I'm hoping the symlink will be enough to keep it happy.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on August 06, 2011, 11:16:48 am
I tried burning the VL7 light live alpha to CD with Brasero. Essentially, it doesn't work.

When I tried as user I got a message that /usr/bin /cdrecord was not installed. I checked in /usr/bin and there is a cdrecord symlink that goes to wodim. Apparently, the symlink doesn't fool Brasero. I couldn't find a "real" cdrecord in the repos and the earlier versions of VL on my computer don't have cdrecord, they have the same symlink to wodim.

Then I tried running brasero as root. I got TONS of messages and the program didn't load at all.

So I give up. The Brasero package in our repo won't work, at least not on my system.

I finally burned the CD with xfburn. I'm content with xfburn except it does not have an option to copy a DVD, which is something I must have because I do it fairly often. K3b can do it, but I hate to install something from KDE, which has a tendency to insert itself where you don't want it. So I'm hoping VL7 Standard can offer something with more functions than xfburn. Having it in the repos is fine; it doesn't have to be in the ISO. Otherwise I have to run Windows when I need to copy a DVD. That's not the end of the world. Windows boots fast on both my desktop computers and Nero works fine for copying DVDs. However, I'd rather be able to do it in VectorLinux.

I've googled on copying a DVD from the Linux command line but I haven't found something I can understand. Most of the hits seem to assume I'm ripping something, but I'm not. I'm just making a copy of one video DVD. Not exactly an exotic task.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Andy Price on August 06, 2011, 11:20:13 pm
Bashburn, the console app, offers a CD to CD copy option. I just tried it with a Windows 7 DVD and it worked ok. I only have one DVD drive so in my case it created a temporary iso file from the source DVD, then wrote it to the blank on the second pass. I had to move my temp burn folder to a partition with plenty of space as my root partition got over-filled by the iso. Anyway, it seems to work and bashburn is a tiny program with few dependencies. I'm not sure if it can copy directly from one DVD drive to a second if you have two DVD drives, perhaps someone with two drives can tell us.
Cheers
Andy

Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on August 07, 2011, 12:13:37 pm
Thanks for the tip about bashburn. I installed it with Gslapt. I attempted to configure it but most of it was beyond me. I then put in a video DVD and attempted to copy it.

There are no options that say "video DVD." It offers audio CD, data CD, and ISO. I tried to copy as a data CD, although it's not a data CD. The program said it wasn't mounted. When I verified that it was mounted, bashburn still said it wasn't mounted. Video DVDs don't have file systems like data DVDs.

I guess I'm still looking for a solution.

Maybe I should explain more about what I'm trying to do. I often record programs from PBS onto the hard drive of our hard drive/DVD recorder. Then I edit out pledge breaks, intermissions, promos for upcoming programs, etc., and burn the program to a DVD using the DVD recorder. I make a duplicate of the DVD as a backup. I do duplicate on a computer by copying one DVD to another.

K3B does this easily. Just tell it to copy a DVD. xfburn doesn't offer this option. It looks like Brasero would do it, but Brasero won't work on VL7. I'm trying to keep my VL7 installations free of KDE. So I have to start Windows and burn the copy there with Nero.

When I say I'm willing to copy a DVD from the command line, I mean somebody tells me "use this command" and then gives me the exact command. I don't mean I have to figure out what modifiers to use, etc. I don't understand any of the stuff underlying the front ends and I don't want to understand it. I just want to click on "copy the DVD" or type one command that I don't have to puzzle out.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: newt on August 07, 2011, 01:25:40 pm
gg, I'll mention NeroLinux again since it seems like it will do what you want.  Last time  used NeroLinux on VL was NL3 on VL5.9 standard and no additional libs were needed. The down side is that it costs $$ but not too much. The plus side is that you can try it for free for 30 days I think, and the upgrade-from-trial cost is $16 I think - plus the interface should be mostly familiar to you. HTH! newt
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: nightflier on August 07, 2011, 03:40:47 pm
@GrannyGeek: Possible workaround.. I've used this for CDs, think it should be the same for DVD disks:
Code: [Select]
dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/CD.iso bs=2048 conv=noerror,syncThis should create an iso on your hard disk which you can burn to disk.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on August 07, 2011, 07:29:28 pm
@GrannyGeek: Possible workaround.. I've used this for CDs, think it should be the same for DVD disks:
Code: [Select]
dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/CD.iso bs=2048 conv=noerror,syncThis should create an iso on your hard disk which you can burn to disk.

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I used your command line and it worked perfectly. After I created the ISO, I burned the ISO to DVD with xfburn. I tested the result with VLC and also in a standalone DVD player (connected to a TV). Perfect copy!

First I thought creating the ISO was an extra step, but then I realized that's what a graphical program does. Creating a DVD from the ISO is a very small and easy step that's done automatically from K3B, for example.

Did I thank you?<g> This is perfect and I don't need K3B, Brasero, or Nero for Linux. Super excellent.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: budulay on August 08, 2011, 12:35:34 pm
There's another problem I'm having with Standard RC2 - sometimes all of a sudden the screen turns white and the system won't respond to anything except for a power down. I don't seem to be doing anything special right before this happens. The laptop is running pretty hot, though. However, nothing like this ever happened on VL6.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on August 08, 2011, 12:50:28 pm
There's another problem I'm having with Standard RC2 - sometimes all of a sudden the screen turns white and the system won't respond to anything except for a power down. I don't seem to be doing anything special right before this happens. The laptop is running pretty hot, though. However, nothing like this ever happened on VL6.

That sounds similar to a problem some of us have reported. I never got just a white screen, but VL7 would lose the keyboard and mouse and thus the ability to do anything. The only solution was to press the power button.

Someone suggested adding the following to LILO. I tried it and it seemed to fix the problem. Haven't had a lockup since I made the change.
Append 'idle=poll' and/or 'maxcpus=1' to the (lilo) kernel parameters

I'm currently using maxcpus=1. My processor is a single-core Sempron but maybe it needed a reminder. I first tried idle=poll and it also solved the lockup problem.

You might give it a try. If it doesn't help, you can always remove it.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on August 08, 2011, 02:03:24 pm
I get a destructive, complete, freeze about once every other day when using Libreoffice 3.4.2.

John
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: budulay on August 08, 2011, 04:22:10 pm
Thanks a bunch GrannyGeek.
I remember your earlier posts about the problem you were having, but I didn't put two and two together ;)
This white screen lockup usually doesn't happen that often, so I'd rather put up with it then use idle=poll, which from what you wrote, makes cpu run hot. Since my cpu is dual core, I appended maxcpus=2 to the lilo kernel parameters.
Now all that's left is to wait and see what happens.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on August 08, 2011, 07:58:53 pm
I don't know if I am dual core or not or if so, or if not, what that would mean.  I am doing some heavy work that is, sadly, a bit too much for google docs, so I installed the latest LibreOffice (SlackBuild)  the other day and have been on it (lowriter) almost non-stop for 3 or 4 days.  I am through with that heavy work, at least for a while and I bet the computer does not do another one of those destructive freezes until I resume the heavy libreoffice project.   
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Masta on August 08, 2011, 08:32:37 pm


I can confirm this. Also, I don't get audio back after resume (I am still on in RC1 though), it used to work in the Betas. Anybody know how to reset the alsa system / sound driver (or whatever) without a reboot?

as root:
Code: [Select]
service alsa force-restart
something like that if I remeber correctly
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: hata_ph on August 10, 2011, 10:41:22 pm
I finally got around to installing Brasero on my Sempron desktop. It complained about missing /usr/lib/libgmime-2.4.so.2, so I made a symlink from /usr/lib/libgmime-2.6.so.0.507.0. Brasero then started without complaint. I haven't yet tried to burn anything and I don't have any DVDs to copy right now. However, I may try burning VL7 Light Live alpha and we'll see how things go.

I guess the missing /usr/lib/libgmime-2.4.so.2 dependency should be fixed in the package. VL7 Standard has libgmime-2.6 installed but Brasero thinks it wants libgmime-2.4. I didn't want to install the older version that I think puts it there, being afraid to mess up the system. I'm hoping the symlink will be enough to keep it happy.
--GrannyGeek

GrannyGeek, I have build brasero-2.30.0. It is in the testing repo. Can you test it for me?
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: budulay on August 11, 2011, 11:09:36 am
Thanks a bunch GrannyGeek.
I remember your earlier posts about the problem you were having, but I didn't put two and two together ;)
This white screen lockup usually doesn't happen that often, so I'd rather put up with it then use idle=poll, which from what you wrote, makes cpu run hot. Since my cpu is dual core, I appended maxcpus=2 to the lilo kernel parameters.
Now all that's left is to wait and see what happens.

After 3 days I haven't had the white screen problem. Moreover, it seems that my CPU is running quite a bit cooler now, especially when idle(it didn't make any difference before, if the cpu was actually busy or not, it was hot all the same).
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on August 11, 2011, 12:17:23 pm
GrannyGeek, I have build brasero-2.30.0. It is in the testing repo. Can you test it for me?

I installed it, replacing 2.30.2. It started without error messages but right now I don't have a DVD to copy. I'll see if I can find one I wouldn't mind having an additional copy of. Will let you know how it goes, and thanks for building it.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on August 11, 2011, 12:21:36 pm
I discovered a problem with Gimp 2.6.11 today. If I try to pull out guidelines, Gimp stops responding. I can't click on the menu or use keyboard commands to do anything. This happened several times. Each time I ended Gimp with ps -e and the kill command for the process.

Has anyone else encountered this? Gimp is MAJOR for me, so it has to work. This happened on my Sempron desktop. I'll try it on my Athlon desktop the next time I start it up.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on August 11, 2011, 02:03:21 pm
I discovered a problem with Gimp 2.6.11 today. If I try to pull out guidelines, Gimp stops responding. I can't click on the menu or use keyboard commands to do anything. This happened several times. Each time I ended Gimp with ps -e and the kill command for the process.

Has anyone else encountered this? Gimp is MAJOR for me, so it has to work. This happened on my Sempron desktop. I'll try it on my Athlon desktop the next time I start it up.
--GrannyGeek

Rats! I just tried it on my Athlon 64 desktop and I have the same problem. If I try to draw out a guideline, Gimp becomes unusable. Can't click on a menu, can't use a keyboard command to do anything, can't close by right-clicking on the XFce Panel icon.

New information: if I wait a few minutes, I get back the ability to click on menus, close from the Panel icon, etc. I can also place a guideline by using Image menu, Guides, New Guide, and once the guideline is on the picture, I can grab it and move it if the Move tool is active. This is true on both computers.

This sounds wrong to me. It's not supposed to work that way. Is anyone else encountering this issue with Gimp? I'm glad to know I can kludge my way through it, but still....
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: edwinsage on August 12, 2011, 08:55:52 pm
We've got this fancy new panel thing, but there's no htop?  I also can't seem to get cpu-graph or network-monitor plugins to work for the old panel; they're not in the list, they're not in the repository, and I even compiled the source and installed it and it still doesn't show up in the Add New Items list.

I'm also having the issue on a couple of workstation computers that the Master volume control has no effect on the volume, only the PCM works.  Not sure whether that's a Vector thing or not.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on August 13, 2011, 08:39:43 am
I have htop and use it often.  I probably got it from the repositories. 
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: newt on August 13, 2011, 10:23:11 am
I discovered a problem with Gimp 2.6.11 today. If I try to pull out guidelines, Gimp stops responding. I can't click on the menu or use keyboard commands to do anything. This happened several times. Each time I ended Gimp with ps -e and the kill command for the process.

Has anyone else encountered this? Gimp is MAJOR for me, so it has to work. This happened on my Sempron desktop. I'll try it on my Athlon desktop the next time I start it up.
--GrannyGeek
I tested Gimp (latest repo version??) in VL7 Light Live A5 and did not run across the guideline problems you did in this VL7 Std RC2. I started gimp, created a new empty image file, and added many guidelines with no problem and all menus remained working. If I can find some time I'll try this again in Std RC2 and report my results.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: budulay on August 13, 2011, 11:46:26 am
Thanks a bunch GrannyGeek.
I remember your earlier posts about the problem you were having, but I didn't put two and two together ;)
This white screen lockup usually doesn't happen that often, so I'd rather put up with it then use idle=poll, which from what you wrote, makes cpu run hot. Since my cpu is dual core, I appended maxcpus=2 to the lilo kernel parameters.
Now all that's left is to wait and see what happens.

After 3 days I haven't had the white screen problem. Moreover, it seems that my CPU is running quite a bit cooler now, especially when idle(it didn't make any difference before, if the cpu was actually busy or not, it was hot all the same).

Just got another one of those lockups last night. This time the screen turned black instead of white, like it used to.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: edwinsage on August 15, 2011, 09:56:29 pm
I just managed to screw something up seriously after trying to run Tremulous.  The system locked up (which has happened every time I try to start up any fullscreen game), probably a kernel panic again, and so I had to power off the system.  When I started it back up this time, XFCE won't load and instead logging in just gives me a black screen with a mouse cursor.  Other WMs work, but that brings me to the second problem...

I can't set the X keyboard.  When I try to do so in vasm, I get the error "Cannot find X11 keymap list".  I use Dvorak, so it's a real pain.  XFCE has its own setting, separate from the X config, but without XFCE I'm stuck going to the CLI to type things.  This also happens at the user login (Why are there no clickable user icons?)
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: Masta on August 15, 2011, 10:08:37 pm
I discovered a problem with Gimp 2.6.11 today. If I try to pull out guidelines, Gimp stops responding. I can't click on the menu or use keyboard commands to do anything. This happened several times. Each time I ended Gimp with ps -e and the kill command for the process.

Has anyone else encountered this? Gimp is MAJOR for me, so it has to work. This happened on my Sempron desktop. I'll try it on my Athlon desktop the next time I start it up.
--GrannyGeek


Rats! I just tried it on my Athlon 64 desktop and I have the same problem. If I try to draw out a guideline, Gimp becomes unusable. Can't click on a menu, can't use a keyboard command to do anything, can't close by right-clicking on the XFce Panel icon.

New information: if I wait a few minutes, I get back the ability to click on menus, close from the Panel icon, etc. I can also place a guideline by using Image menu, Guides, New Guide, and once the guideline is on the picture, I can grab it and move it if the Move tool is active. This is true on both computers.

This sounds wrong to me. It's not supposed to work that way. Is anyone else encountering this issue with Gimp? I'm glad to know I can kludge my way through it, but still....
--GrannyGeek

OK, I am a little bit confused by "pull out guidelines". Maybe I'm not seeing this right, but what I did was drag cursor from the rulers and guidlines followed fine with no "hesitation" of what you described. Gimp is THE 1st application I check.  Would you please instruct me on how you are "pulling out guidlines" so that I can check into this further? Thanks
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: newt on August 16, 2011, 08:15:52 am
I discovered a problem with Gimp 2.6.11 today. If I try to pull out guidelines, Gimp stops responding. I can't click on the menu or use keyboard commands to do anything. This happened several times. Each time I ended Gimp with ps -e and the kill command for the process.

Has anyone else encountered this? Gimp is MAJOR for me, so it has to work. This happened on my Sempron desktop. I'll try it on my Athlon desktop the next time I start it up.
--GrannyGeek


Rats! I just tried it on my Athlon 64 desktop and I have the same problem. If I try to draw out a guideline, Gimp becomes unusable. Can't click on a menu, can't use a keyboard command to do anything, can't close by right-clicking on the XFce Panel icon.

New information: if I wait a few minutes, I get back the ability to click on menus, close from the Panel icon, etc. I can also place a guideline by using Image menu, Guides, New Guide, and once the guideline is on the picture, I can grab it and move it if the Move tool is active. This is true on both computers.

This sounds wrong to me. It's not supposed to work that way. Is anyone else encountering this issue with Gimp? I'm glad to know I can kludge my way through it, but still....
--GrannyGeek

OK, I am a little bit confused by "pull out guidelines". Maybe I'm not seeing this right, but what I did was drag cursor from the rulers and guidlines followed fine with no "hesitation" of what you described. Gimp is THE 1st application I check.  Would you please instruct me on how you are "pulling out guidlines" so that I can check into this further? Thanks

Yes, your method is correct for "pull(ing) out guidelines". I tested this method on VL7LightLiveA5 and no problems; I then tested on VL7StdRC2 and have the same problem as GG (i.e. menus become nonfunctional). However, once the menus are nonfunctional, I've found that if I minimize the program to the task tray and restore it then the menus will work again - of course, no guides ever get "pulled out" during this process.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: solex on August 16, 2011, 06:36:09 pm
Sorry if this has been posted before but any idea when 7.0 will be released?

Been using it for a few months now on my x61 and have absolutely no problems.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on August 17, 2011, 09:08:17 am
Yes, your method is correct for "pull(ing) out guidelines". I tested this method on VL7LightLiveA5 and no problems; I then tested on VL7StdRC2 and have the same problem as GG (i.e. menus become nonfunctional). However, once the menus are nonfunctional, I've found that if I minimize the program to the task tray and restore it then the menus will work again - of course, no guides ever get "pulled out" during this process.

So you did experience the same problem. I also recovered the ability to click on menus, icons, etc. after a bit. Since it doesn't happen in alpha 5, I hope the problem can be tracked down before VL7 Standard Final. If not, at least I can place a guideline through the Image menu and then I can grab it and move it exactly where I want it, so we do have a working kludge.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: hata_ph on August 17, 2011, 09:17:06 am
Notice hibernate will not working on VL7 RC2. Suspend working fine :)
The hibernate script is /usr/sbin/hibernate or /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate?
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: newt on August 17, 2011, 11:35:05 am
Yes, your method is correct for "pull(ing) out guidelines". I tested this method on VL7LightLiveA5 and no problems; I then tested on VL7StdRC2 and have the same problem as GG (i.e. menus become nonfunctional). However, once the menus are nonfunctional, I've found that if I minimize the program to the task tray and restore it then the menus will work again - of course, no guides ever get "pulled out" during this process.

So you did experience the same problem. I also recovered the ability to click on menus, icons, etc. after a bit. Since it doesn't happen in alpha 5, I hope the problem can be tracked down before VL7 Standard Final. If not, at least I can place a guideline through the Image menu and then I can grab it and move it exactly where I want it, so we do have a working kludge.
--GrannyGeek
GG, yes I did experience that problem in VL7StdRC2 HOWEVER we may have a breakthrough. It seems the problem is related to xscreensaver (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-869669-start-0.html), and after killing xscreensaver on my test system I am able to pull out guides in GIMP normally again. I bet KDE (i.e. VL7LiveLightA5) has it's own built-in screensaver utility that doesn't interfere with GIMP like xscreensaver does, and that's why it doesn't suffer from the same problem.
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: GrannyGeek on August 18, 2011, 06:36:59 am
GG, yes I did experience that problem in VL7StdRC2 HOWEVER we may have a breakthrough. It seems the problem is related to xscreensaver (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-869669-start-0.html), and after killing xscreensaver on my test system I am able to pull out guides in GIMP normally again. I bet KDE (i.e. VL7LiveLightA5) has it's own built-in screensaver utility that doesn't interfere with GIMP like xscreensaver does, and that's why it doesn't suffer from the same problem.

Excellent find! I had my screensaver set to "disable screen saver" but I had to "kill daemon" before I was able to pull out guides in Gimp. I've now done that and Gimp's guides are working again. Thanks!
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: The Headacher on August 18, 2011, 01:57:50 pm
Hi, Y'all! Long time no see!

 I don't have time to read all the comments so not sure if this has been posted yet. I tried installing on my new "Roboard 110" today, and since it has only a 1000 MHz CPU and 256 MB of RAM I thought it would be a good idea to use the text installer. I couldn't find an option to select packages. It would be nice to have that option, but perhaps I somehow missed it..

So far, all my attempts of installing VL on this single board computer have been unsuccessful, but I'm not giving up just yet. I think the problem may be related to the fact that I have to install to a microSD card, but I can't say for sure yet.

Well, see y'all around!
 :-*

[edit] Just noticed, it's my 1500th post on this forum!  ;D [/edit]
Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: scififry on August 18, 2011, 10:01:11 pm
Hey,  :)

I missed that feature too (in 7.0 beta2 , though), the text mode installer installs everything in one step.
Tested it some time ago on my P2 350MHz 320MB RAM and the graphical installer (which contains some cool games ;) ) worked fine too, and I think that the packages to be installed were selectable there.

Greetings,
~scififry
Title: network hang, can't obtain dhcp after updating with VL mirror /extra
Post by: vincent2 on September 08, 2011, 10:10:05 pm
Bonjour!

Today's  9th sept., made a system updating with "gslapt"(add /extra on the vl mirror ftp), chosed all updating pkgs,once rebooting,
 Now wicd Just couldn't get obtain DHCP adress , hang in the middle, no network with wire cable connection with router...

never happen before after updating, it made me weired...
any user has similar trick experience today with updating gslapt?
any quick remedy command to fix   it?

Now still not ready to move onto RC2.1 yet till weekend...


Title: Re: VECTORLINUX 7.0 RC2 Bug Reports
Post by: sledgehammer on September 11, 2011, 11:02:35 pm
Ghostscript problem

I can't seem to get ghostscript to work.  Won't open postscript files.   Says something like "no such file or directory."  At least postscript files I generate. Version of ghostscript doesn't seem to matter. gv works though.  If others are not having this problem, its probably my python postscript generator that is on the blink.