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Cooking up the Treats => Distro development => Topic started by: nightflier on January 29, 2012, 11:52:59 am

Title: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: nightflier on January 29, 2012, 11:52:59 am
Just a little more and we can get this finalized!
Please use this thread for suggestions and observations.

For bugs, go here:
https://bitbucket.org/VLCore/vl70/issues
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: autogestion on January 29, 2012, 12:32:53 pm
One of the tools that satisfy me and Vector 6 Light miss most in the development of Vector 7 Light is VLwifitools, and I consider it more effective than wicd. I'd really like Vector 7 Light definitive count on it.
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: Pita on January 31, 2012, 12:43:41 am
xine still crashes when trying to play an audio CD.

xmms does now play audio CD.

Could not make mplayer play anything, guess more my fault since I do not like the program.

Best player sofar "vlc" for audio and video.

"at" is still not in init.d

gslapt hang at one time. Could no repeat it. 



Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: Herpy on January 31, 2012, 10:02:22 am
I made a video looking into it!

http://www.youtube.com/user/Herpy1000?feature=mhee#p/u/0/Cr5yqi2RWSo
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: Herpy on January 31, 2012, 07:00:33 pm
Frozen bubble crashes when I try to play an online game.
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: Pita on February 01, 2012, 08:08:38 pm
Burned a CD with Brasero all right. Got hung on making a md5sum. Cancelled it, closed Brasero.

In Icewm got to logout window, would not react when pressed, moved
 mouse to menu for another logout, then system froze. Power reboot.
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: Herpy on February 01, 2012, 11:40:22 pm
when I try to edit the openbox menu I get a writing error.
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: Lyn on February 04, 2012, 01:45:32 am
When I double the size of XMMS it just becomes a blank oblong, and any controls are thus not available.  I don't think this is specific though to VL 7 light.  No problems playing dvds with Xine.  Also I don't get the usual screen with my i810 intel graphics chip where I have to hit return to actually launch the distro.  So far all works very well, am going to install the other environments to see if we have that issue with the cd player.
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: Lyn on February 04, 2012, 02:40:26 am
OK tried to install packages from the install CD, when you load the cd a dialog pops up saying that an optical disk has been found and asks if you want to mount it, I say yes and then the file manager pops up with the contents of the install CD.  If you close the mount dialog box then the file manager loses the info, I imagine that the disk is then unmounted.... repeating it and keeping the dialog open and then launching gslapt and selecting the cd as a source produces a package source unavailable dialog asking you if you want to disable this source and continue anyway.

Logged in as root and repeated the exercise.
No mount disk dialog this time
But the sources from the CD not found again...
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: nightflier on February 04, 2012, 06:05:19 am
Lyn, good stuff. As far as using the CD as repo sources, it's not set up that way. The packages are there, but I bastardized it by spreading the packages out in a non-standard way. This was so I could have the four different install options. Will see if I can fix that.
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: caieng on February 05, 2012, 01:03:59 pm
Hi Nightflier,

Thank you for making this preliminary version available for testing.

Allow me to write, first of all, that I am submitting this message using Vector Light 7.0!!

Hurrah!!!

A couple of issues:  I doubt that these are really problems, for 99% of VL users.

I cannot login as myself.  I am writing this as "root".    Further, my password, for root, is not recognized.  My username, and passwords for both root and user, are all single characters, but when I type those characters, either as user or as root, I am informed that the wrong password has been entered.  I am obliged to login as root, without a password......

This gives no problem with other versions of Linux, Debian based, including Debian itself, and PCLOS,  but I suspect that with Slackware, my habit is viewed as an error.  Hence, my message today is this:  Please enable single digit entries, else, if that is unattractive to the developers, then, please raise an error message, signalling to the user that single characters are not tolerated by VL.

Though working as root, I am insufficiently clever to succeed in downloading and installing Opera.  I receive the file, ok, but then, with other linux distros, I would right click and "extract", then, "install" the browser.  Three steps (XP requires only one mouseclick).  I was smart enough to fetch the compressed file, I can see it in the file manager.  But then I am stuck......  Perhaps there is a link to a reference which explains to those confronted with not very user friendly interfaces, how one should proceed....

Autologin is just essential for my application.  I don't know how to enable it.....I did look in VASM.  Maybe I simply missed it....

Finally, again, this may not be a true "bug", but I think it may be worth mentioning.

I found the directory "VASM", which does not mean, counterintuitively, Vector Assembly Language Machinations, but rather, Vector Architect's Solitary Muse.

Well, ok, I don't know the meaning of the acronym, but I get the idea, this is supposed to be the control center, that enables one to adjust things.....

Well, tried, and failed to create myself as user, again.  I entered my single letter, which I use to identify myself, and VASM reported back an error, indicating that this user name had already been specified.  WEll, yes, it had been, during the installation.  but, then, why does it not accept that name, when I try to login????

All in all, good job, few little quirks, but basically:  ENCOURAGING.   

Now, if only some kind hearted soul could instruct me, how to get the VL light 6.0 Norwegian winter landscape as desktop for my new 7.0 installation!!! 

hahaha.  Great.  Thanks again Vector and everyone for such a good effort....

CAI ENG
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: nightflier on February 05, 2012, 05:12:33 pm
Hi caieng, thanks for taking the time to test and report.  :)

I have heard other reports of problems with user creation and passwords during install, but never run into them myself. I don't know how to address it in the distro itself, but here are some suggestions for your system: While logged in as root, on the command line enter "passwd". You will be prompted to enter a new password, and a single character should not cause any problems. Next, use command "passwd your_username", where 'your_username' is the user you created earlier. For user names, single lower case letters will work, but not special characters or numbers.

Automatic login: If you run LXDE, go Menu > Preferences > Login Window. Otherwise, on the command line, run command "vsuper /usr/bin/gdmsetup". I am planning on adding an entry to the IceWM menu as well.

Opera: I feel that installing it using the package manager (gslapt) is much easier than searching for the install file on the internet, downloading and installing it.

For the Volumous Applications Starting Menu.. hey, your imagination is the limit! ;)

The wallpapers are found in /usr/share/wallpapers. You can copy the files from VL6 Light to your new system, then use pcmanfm's preferences to use the image of your choice. Glad you like the picture from my old stomping grounds.  ;D
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: caieng on February 06, 2012, 03:02:36 am
Thank you very much nightflier, a great response.  I am writing this using Opera, having rebooted, and achieved autologin, by following your directions.  Very surprisingly, I had no need to "create" a new user, for, when I clicked on the "security" tab of the login choice, and sought to enable automatic login, my username appeared as the only choice.

So, the system DID accept me as user, during the installation, however, somewhere along the line, that information did not get passed to the main "LOGIN" screen, during the normal post-install login process.

I guess that would then be a "bug", but, since I need autologin, it does not affect me at all....

GSLAPT:  very very good.  I like it.  First time to use it, and I must say, very impressive.  I haven't yet tried to use it, to remove packages that are installed by default, packages which are useless to me, (like bluetooth), but obviously important to the distro as a whole.  So, that will be an adventure.

I will undoubtedly have some more questions, as I become more familiar with the OS, now that I can actually use it!!!!

Thanks again for a terrific effort. 

CAI ENG
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: nightflier on February 06, 2012, 04:47:15 am
@caieng: nice to see you're having progress. A word on gslapt though; do not use it to remove packages. At least, if you do, review the action list before clicking "Apply". There are cases where dependency checking gets out of control and it will delete other programs in the process.
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: caieng on February 06, 2012, 05:54:56 am
Thanks again, nightflier, for your encouragement, always welcome!!!

OK, I will be glad to use any other method, you would suggest, to rid myself of unwanted programs.  If it were up to me, the "light" version of VL would contain only:

Opera
VLC
ALSA mixer

and whatever dependencies those three required......

cheers,

CAI ENG
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: nightflier on February 06, 2012, 06:50:10 am
The safest way to remove packages is from the command line. Syntax is "removepkg name_of_package" (as root, of course). Example: "removepkg firefox" will remove all files from the Mozilla Firefox package but nothing else.

To get the package name correct, I'd recommend using gslapt to find the exact spelling first. There may be numbers and/or upper case letters involved. You can also search /var/log/packages for that information. The package names contain additional information such as architecture and version numbers. You don't need to type all that in, just the base name of the package.

It's safe to remove top level applications which have menu entries. But there are thousands of files in a workstation install, and they work together. A specific application may need numerous supporting programs to function properly. Unless you know very well what you are doing, do not remove programs that don't show up on the menu.
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: nightflier on February 06, 2012, 07:03:15 am
One more note on gslapt: It is also used for upgrades. When you open it, click the "Update" button. Then search for your application. You may see a newer version available. Click on the square to the left of the name and select the Upgrade option.
Title: Re: VL 7.0 Light Beta 3 feedback and suggestions.
Post by: Joncho on February 17, 2012, 11:04:17 am
This Really Looks Great!

I used the LIGHT IceWM and have a minor problem.

It looks like there is no application associated to any mime type, if i try to open any file from pcmanfm-mod or spacefm (even installed pcmanfm) the "Choose Application" Dialog is displayed, and the "Recommended Applications" list is empty, i guess i could associate an application to every file-type but it takes time, and i will probably use VL7-Light in at least 4 computers (maybe 7), i don't want to do it that many times and i'm very interested in the Light configuration with spacefm.

By the way, i tested the three file managers (pcmanfm-mod, spacefm and pcmanfm) in a MEDIUM IceWM install, and the three had associated programs to the file types i tried.

is there a way to associate programs to file types automagically?

except for this, everything is running perfectly, i'm installing some programs and testing, will give feedback if something goes wrong.