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The nuts and bolts => Hardware & Drivers => Topic started by: Pita on February 18, 2013, 05:22:29 pm

Title: Wiped Out
Post by: Pita on February 18, 2013, 05:22:29 pm
A few days ago when tried to open my VLSOHO-7 box I got kernel panic.
Trying another box Slackel-OpenBox same, Kernel panic.

Both partitions are on a relatively new sata drive. Booting into Knoppix
it showed that in those above mentioned partitions most of the / directories
were gone. Of the 19 or so only 7 were left.

Other partitons on the sata drive were unaffected. I checked all partitions with
badblock and no bad blocks were detected.

In my 30 odd years on computers I never experienced such a loss of directories
and have no clue how this could have happened.

Had it to do with the passing of the asteroid or the crash of the meteor in Russia at that time?  ??? ;)  :o

Anyone having had such an experience?
Title: Re: Wiped Out
Post by: bigpaws on February 18, 2013, 05:52:09 pm
Interesting I had the same thing happen 1 week ago.

In the AM tried to get to a Desktop and no response.

I tried to  reboot. After reboot I lost /home/ and
other directories. Nothing left of those directories.

It was also the only time I have had that type of
failure.

After doing an audit and reviews I never found the
cause. This was a Slackware 13.37 Desktop. Never
had any problems with this box before.

Bigpaws
Title: Re: Wiped Out
Post by: overthere on February 18, 2013, 09:34:46 pm
Interesting..if you happened to be in a room in russia that had the windows blown out it may actually be a cause. well if you like the Tesla sound frequency theory i guess.

 If these are both new sata drives with multi partitions perhaps they are defective, at least when using multi partitions.

could the format have any impact? was there a power outage?
Title: Re: Wiped Out
Post by: The Headacher on February 18, 2013, 11:57:03 pm
You guys got me all scared now, I should really do some backups...
Title: Re: Wiped Out
Post by: bigpaws on February 19, 2013, 10:36:37 am
My systems us UPS. Only 5 partitions, EXT4.

No evidence of any failures.

All my files are backed up to a local and offsite service.

Bigpaws
Title: Re: Wiped Out
Post by: Pita on February 19, 2013, 04:54:11 pm
My sata drive has 5 partitons of which 3 with distro boxes got wiped.
Slackel-OpenBox and Salix-13.37 near total, VL7-Soho partially but rendered useless.

Two partions on the drive my /usr/local and the Tiny Core Linux box were
fully unaffetced.

No one else except me is using my PC desktop.

Before that happened I was trying to access cups forum and got a warning
that the site is insecure. That was with Firefox. I switched to Midori
and got no such warning opened the Forum, however, did not get far.
Seems a bit confusing to me.

I reformated the damaged partitions and reinstalled the distros.
So far so good.

smarttcl -A, does not mention any errors on the sata drice unlike in my old ide drive.
Title: Re: Wiped Out
Post by: sledgehammer on February 19, 2013, 05:15:49 pm
I have been accessing cups a lot lately, via VASM, with no problems.  I wonder if you are, as Big Paws, using EXT4?  I also use ext4, and have had no problems.  I don't dual boot and have nothing but VL7 on my machine. 
Title: Re: Wiped Out
Post by: overthere on February 20, 2013, 02:27:40 am
well..in the realm of understanding we appear to know that both are newer sata with 5 partitions, reproducing the event is not so desirable I am sure, so it is left to speculation. Pita are you also using EXT4 and could the location of the partitions on the drive be a factor.
Title: Re: Wiped Out
Post by: Pita on February 20, 2013, 11:59:49 pm
2 partitons, #5 and #8 were xfs and partiiton #10 ext4. The other xfs
 and ext4  were unaffected.

Made this test which shows no errors.

smartctl -t long /dev/sdb

SMART Extended Self-test Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  
LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      2209        
# -
# 2  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      2209        

Sledgehammer, it really does not matter if you use VASM to open cups
once a browser is opened VASM has no more control.

If you click in cups on Home, User Forum and then on Login do you get this?

Quote
This Connection is Untrusted
      
          You have asked Firefox to connect
securely to www.cups.org, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure.
          Normally, when you try to connect securely,
sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are
going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified.
          
        
          What Should I Do?
          
            If you usually connect to
this site without problems, this error could mean that someone is
trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue.
            
        Get me out of here

www.cups.org uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed.
The certificate is only valid for svn.easysw.com

(Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer)

 
        
And general question: How serious is this and should one continue taking the Risk? 
        
        
Title: Re: Wiped Out
Post by: overthere on February 21, 2013, 12:39:27 am
Have had the bad certificate error when the clock is not set correctly as I recall but also with the browser by default and toggle the constant nags but if firefox did not do this before at the cups forum then odd for sure. I did read that sata drives can have loss of data from power outages and also if new partitions are not completed can damage or cause loss of data over the entired drive. if you had recently repartitioned to add another distro perhaps something was not quite right..wow talk about speculation.

Edit: did not have cups on, on the computer, but just opened printing from menu on vl7std and it opened in firefox, clicked user forum and it took me to a cups page that appeared to be the forum, have  not been to this page before but no errors
Title: Re: Wiped Out
Post by: sledgehammer on February 21, 2013, 08:47:51 am
Pita,

Sorry, I don't know where home User Forum is:

Quote
If you click in cups on Home, User Forum and then on Login do you get this?

Title: Re: Wiped Out
Post by: overthere on February 21, 2013, 10:28:47 am
Hi sledgehammer, know that was to pita but if you click manage printing it opens in firefox by default in VL std..the page for me opened to the home tab and under the home you will see user forum. when clicked it will take you to the forum

pita..I see what you mean when you click log-in..I missed the log in part..I also get the error message. when you click technical details it notes that the certificate is self signed

Technical Details
          www.cups.org uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed.
The certificate is only valid for svn.easysw.com

not confident either but if svn.easysw.com is cups site only, then it is likely safe to accept the certificate and guess once accepted it will not nag further. however I do not know that and thus not confident to suggest you proceed. you can visit that site and see for your self, it hosts the cups amoung other opensource software and appears legit
Title: Re: Wiped Out
Post by: retired1af on February 21, 2013, 11:55:54 am

        
And general question: How serious is this and should one continue taking the Risk? 
        
        

Certificates are pricey. Self signed is fine as long as you trust the site. In the case of cups.org, no worries.
Title: Re: Wiped Out
Post by: sledgehammer on February 21, 2013, 07:48:02 pm
Quote
if you click manage printing it opens in firefox by default in VL std

I don't see a "manage printing" icon, nor do I see it in any of the menus.

When I click on system>printing, or settings>printing I get a window with an icon showing my printer, but no home or user forum.
Title: Re: Wiped Out
Post by: Pita on February 21, 2013, 11:16:14 pm
Now I remember and should have mentioned it when this wipe-out happened it caused as well

on booting to show only one penguin at the top instead of 2 for a dual core CPU.

Somehow the 2 penguins went back.

And BTW I accessed now cups forum with login and logout and nothing undue happened.
Title: Re: Wiped Out
Post by: overthere on February 22, 2013, 02:51:13 pm
 sledgehammer you have a printer connected and working, or sounds like, so perhaps that set up no longer shows the home page in the browser and instead opens local host:631 to printing. you would have to click the home tab. or perhaps you are using an different  version of cups

pita, sorry about the melt down and glad you have the forum issue resolved