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The Vectorian Lounge => The Lounge => Topic started by: nightflier on May 27, 2016, 08:32:18 am

Title: Google vs. Oracle
Post by: nightflier on May 27, 2016, 08:32:18 am
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/05/google-wins-trial-against-oracle-as-jury-finds-android-is-fair-use/
Title: Re: Google vs. Oracle
Post by: retired1af on May 27, 2016, 05:27:26 pm
And, of course, Oracle plans to appeal. Again.

Pathetic.
Title: Re: Google vs. Oracle
Post by: wigums on May 28, 2016, 09:45:02 am
this argument has nothing to do with my opinions of this case. it has to dowith the people involved
and this can be applied to almost any tech involved court cases

my problem with this is that jurors more than likely have no idea
what they are looking at, hearing about, deliberating on.

one of the major fallacies about the american court system is that you get a jury of your peers.
nothing could be farther from the truth. the point being that imo regular old average joe american
isnt knowledgable enough to make these types of decisions. im not implying they are stupid, only
that most americans are ignorant of such things. in fact most people in the entire world are.
this also includes the judges/lawyers involved in the case

not only are they more than likely ignorant of of the tech(and the licenses involved) they are making
decisions about. but this means they also have no idea what the rammifications of their decisions will be
Title: Re: Google vs. Oracle
Post by: retired1af on May 28, 2016, 04:00:31 pm
In this case, the jury was thanked by the judge on the thoughtfulness and thoroughness of their deliberations.

http://techcrunch.com/2016/05/26/jury-finds-googles-implementation-of-java-in-android-was-fair-use/

Quote
Judge William Alsup, who also presided over Oracle’s copyright case against Google, frequently praised the jury for its thoughtful approach to this case. In a somewhat unusual move, Alsup allowed jurors to take their notes home with them before they heard closing arguments in the case and during their deliberations, so they could study the facts.
Title: Re: Google vs. Oracle
Post by: crum on May 29, 2016, 04:35:57 am
@wigums   Your absolutely correct. Peers in this case not applied. Peers,illegal and other words are just thrown out to meet the law but not applied or enforced.
Title: Re: Google vs. Oracle
Post by: nightflier on June 03, 2016, 10:29:16 am
Let's muddy the water some:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/06/02/google_oracle_comment/
Title: Re: Google vs. Oracle
Post by: roarde on June 03, 2016, 04:29:22 pm
Let's muddy the water some:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/06/02/google_oracle_comment/
Thank you for linking that important message from The Ministry of Truth. Doubleplusgood. Good that BB tells us that Freedom is Slavery.