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General Announcements => Distro Releases => Topic started by: nightflier on June 09, 2017, 12:23:45 pm

Title: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: nightflier on June 09, 2017, 12:23:45 pm
A big thank you to all that helped with RC1! Feedback helped us squash some bugs and make improvements. We're almost there, just a little bit more now.

Here are the new and improved ISOs:
http://vlcore.vectorlinux.com/pkg/untested/veclinux-7.2/iso/VL-7.2-STD-RC2.iso   
md5sum cd80e28d6595110d1fa88f413daa7136

http://vlcore.vectorlinux.com/pkg/untested/veclinux-7.2/iso/VL64-7.2-STD-RC2.iso   
md5sum 6d2e1b9c007a540cdc4970a6df423da9

As before, leave any comments below, or in the bug tracker: https://bitbucket.org/VLCore/vl72/issues
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: mtbvfr on June 09, 2017, 06:33:25 pm
Hi nightflier,

How is this supposed to be installed to a USB Flash Drive so that you can boot from it before attempting an install to a Hard Drive? Is that what you should be able to do?

I've tried the following without success.

sudo dd bs=4M if=VL64-7.2-STD-RC2.iso of=/dev/sdd status=progress && sync

sudo dd if=VL64-7.2-STD-RC2.iso of=/dev/sdd


The USB drive is no longer recognised by Thunar.

In Gparted it is indicated that the iso9660 File System is being used and there are no flags set.

Thanks, MTB.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: nightflier on June 10, 2017, 04:34:53 am
Hi MTB,

Either one should work. I simply use "cp VL64-7.2-STD-RC2.iso /dev/sdd".

After the write operation is done, the USB stick may no longer be recognized by the file manager, that is normal.

Set your computer BIOS to boot from USB and restart.

Many computers use a key to bring up a boot menu. Dells usually use F12, on HP try F9 or Esc.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: mtbvfr on June 10, 2017, 05:01:55 am
I shall give the cp command a go later.

Everything else is as it should be.

I have tested other distros with the same USB drive and I am also using Manjaro OpenRC Xfce from a HD in an external USB 3.0 enclosure.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: nightflier on June 10, 2017, 05:55:37 am
Just to make sure, I downloaded VL64-7.2-STD-RC2.iso one more time,
checked md5sum 6d2e1b9c007a540cdc4970a6df423da9,
copied to USB drive,
booted and installed on real hardware.

No problems noted. That, of course, does not guarantee that you will have an identical experience.
Please let us know what you find, we'll be happy to help any way we can.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: StrayBit on June 10, 2017, 01:14:03 pm
Installed 32 bit rc2 on Compaq Presariono:
Did not try bootloader.
Difficulty setting time zone - list wouldn't scroll, had to hold down arrow and after releasing, the list would jump to the new selection.
Still no keyboard or mouse on the login screen
 continuing to use b1.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: overthere on June 10, 2017, 03:35:30 pm
straybit did you try acpi=off or noapic at boot prompt?
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: mtbvfr on June 10, 2017, 04:35:40 pm
No problems noted. That, of course, does not guarantee that you will have an identical experience.
Please let us know what you find, we'll be happy to help any way we can.

I tried the cp command but it made no difference.

Next, I installed Void Linux, again, on the same USB Flash Drive using the following command and I had no problems.

sudo dd bs=4M if=void-live-x86_64-20170220-xfce.iso of=/dev/sdd status=progress && sync

In Gparted the same information was shown as I mentioned before for the Vector iso except the Label was different of course.

After the Void iso was written to the drive I was also able to mount it in Thunar which I could not do with the Vector iso.

I was also able to boot from this USB drive.

If you need any more data, let me know.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: overthere on June 10, 2017, 06:31:45 pm
cupertino icons are missing from VL7.2 STD RC2
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: nightflier on June 11, 2017, 06:41:41 am
I tried the cp command but it made no difference.
Looks like the VL hybrid ISO may not work with your system. :( 
Is burning a DVD an option for you?
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: nightflier on June 11, 2017, 07:03:45 am
cupertino icons are missing from VL7.2 STD RC2

Is this mainly for running the XFCE desktop as root, or does it affect a regular user?
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: mtbvfr on June 11, 2017, 11:48:35 am
Looks like the VL hybrid ISO may not work with your system. :( 
Is burning a DVD an option for you?

I have a Lenovo B590 Laptop purchased in 2014 and this is the first time I have ever had such a problem and I have tested various distros in that time.

What difference does burning a DVD make?

The Void iso also uses the iso9660 File System and it boots fine.

Is there something different about the way the Vector iso is created that does not make it universally compatible?

Burning a DVD is NOT an option because that is wasteful especially when USB Flash drives can be used and the iso being offered for testing is only a Release Candidate.

Would using UNetbootin make a difference?

Another note, my Laptop is setup to use UEFI.

Using the Gnome Disk Utility, I captured the data you can see in the images below.

Can the parition type of the Vector ISO be changed?

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOPCqXbNWl-j0Jcw_jANrsUEJ_R2PJx7VSCE7gXUjuB8aR3kSm2EVRbjWCICcWojw/photo/AF1QipNzNTBF5dXsDm-kEEVoxLp3ArB8Hv66mSlvBAMO?key=RjJseUZnelY4Q1lHeTlPMkZmWG82WU9uempZcjl3

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOPCqXbNWl-j0Jcw_jANrsUEJ_R2PJx7VSCE7gXUjuB8aR3kSm2EVRbjWCICcWojw/photo/AF1QipODrpfS-ECRRsAMgS7O7YbWX9YX1IbbMyX30dgx?key=RjJseUZnelY4Q1lHeTlPMkZmWG82WU9uempZcjl3
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: nightflier on June 11, 2017, 01:00:22 pm
Sorry, the images do not work with unetbootin.  :(
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: nightflier on June 11, 2017, 01:24:17 pm
Another note, my Laptop is setup to use UEFI.
I think you need "legacy boot".

I know I have gotten unetbootin to work in the past by making some manual edits, lemme experiment some with that.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: mtbvfr on June 11, 2017, 01:28:52 pm
I know I have gotten unetbootin to work in the past by making some manual edits, lemme experiment some with that.


Ok
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: mtbvfr on June 11, 2017, 01:40:10 pm
I should have mentioned that Secure Boot is disabled.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: nightflier on June 11, 2017, 02:01:08 pm
No.. unetbootin does not look like an option, don't see anything about EFI on the USB stick.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: mtbvfr on June 11, 2017, 02:05:02 pm
don't see anything about EFI on the USB stick.

Not sure what you are trying to indicate with this comment.

The 2 images I posted are for Void and Vector on the same USB Flash Drive.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: nightflier on June 11, 2017, 02:20:03 pm
The image showing Void linux has a "grub_uefi" part.
I assume your computer will only boot uefi images.
VL iso is not configured for uefi boot.
Unetbootin did not configure the USB stick for uefi boot, I did not pursue it any further than that.

Unfortunately, I'm out of ideas, sorry.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: mtbvfr on June 11, 2017, 03:23:12 pm
VL iso is not configured for uefi boot.

UEFI has been around for at least 5 years.

Why is the VL iso not configured for UEFI?
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: Doug Brunelle on June 11, 2017, 04:05:26 pm
One suggestion I have for the installation process- on this old emachines M6809 notebook, I had three partitions- Windows XP, Lubuntu 17.04, and Vector Linux LIGHT 7.1, and unallocated space of about 15GB for installation of VL 7.2 x64 RC2. 

I started the installation, and chose 'automatic' for the disk & partition selection, thinking that it would figure out that three partitions are in use, and there's unallocated space, so it will use the unallocated space by default, right?  But NOooooooo..!  the VL install wiped out all the other partitions and created one partition for the OS, much as you'd expect Windows to do. 

Now, it's no big deal- I didn't have anything important in those other partitions.  I just think that the installer, when evaluating the existing partitions, should use the unallocated space for the current install and leave existing partitions alone; in other words, the user might not be aware that an 'automatic' installation will destroy his existing partitions.  To me, the OS install should DO THE LEAST DESTRUCTIVE THING BY DEFAULT.  Or at least warn the user just before partitioning that the option he chose will wipe out all partitions on the disk for the current install.

--Doug
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: nightflier on June 11, 2017, 04:27:39 pm
Doug, good feedback. Thank you. Will pass that on to the devs responsible for the installer.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: overthere on June 11, 2017, 04:50:13 pm
Quote
Is this mainly for running the XFCE desktop as root, or does it affect a regular user?

The faenza-cupertino icons are missing from the folder in /usr/share/icons but the theme and folders remain

thus if a user selects faenza-cupertino from settings/appearance/icons nothing changes as the icons are missing. the blue folder icons are or have been a Vector standard.

rather than include them in following iso, the option was changed to faenza dark as default but the option remains.

simply adding the icons to the folder solves the issue. however if it is the desire of Vector to revert to classic brown folders after many years of matching Vector blue, then the option should be removed as it is an option that does not work due to the missing icon set.

this affects the user and likely root as well
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: nightflier on June 11, 2017, 05:57:00 pm
Got it, overthere, thanks!
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: overthere on June 11, 2017, 06:43:44 pm
If thunar is opened as user you can see a devices list ie optical drive additional partitions and usb drives when plugged in and mount and unmount at will.

In terminal su to root and open thunar no devices are listed at all. thus root user has no access to devices in file manager.

E.this may be by design and I am thinking of another system. if so oops
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: overthere on June 11, 2017, 07:09:39 pm
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How is this supposed to be installed to a USB Flash Drive so that you can boot from it before attempting an install to a Hard Drive? Is that what you should be able to do?

No, this is not a live media, it is an install media. on newer computers it will require secure boot to be disabled and legacy mode selected as I understand it

alternatively you may install to a virtual box.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: nightflier on June 12, 2017, 11:55:12 am
If thunar is opened as user you can see a devices list ie optical drive additional partitions and usb drives when plugged in and mount and unmount at will.

In terminal su to root and open thunar no devices are listed at all. thus root user has no access to devices in file manager.

E.this may be by design and I am thinking of another system. if so oops

Got the word - "that's just the way it is". 
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: overthere on June 12, 2017, 12:46:20 pm
Thanks, understood, and always a light if that is a tunnel for anyone
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: Dark Rider on June 21, 2017, 10:20:27 am
I'm Back after a few years. Looking forward to trying 7.2. Glad to see you guys are still here, glad to see I remembered my login and password. Ha!
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: retired1af on July 02, 2017, 01:57:05 am
No bueno on the install to my desktop. Doesn't even get to the installer. ISO fires up and ends up at a completely locked text screen as root.

Going to download the ISO again and give it another shot just in case it was a borked download.

Edit -

Nope. Still won't install. And I can't use the previous beta either that's already installed on the drive.

The drive was transferred from my notebook to a new desktop rig. UEFI is active which I suspect is the cause of the issue.

System info:

Machine:   Mobo: ASRock model: H110M-DGS R3.0 Bios: American Megatrends v: P1.20 date: 05/10/2017
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i7-6700 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 27264
           clock speeds: min/max: 800/4000 MHz 1: 799 MHz 2: 799 MHz 3: 799 MHz 4: 799 MHz 5: 963 MHz
           6: 799 MHz 7: 1161 MHz 8: 799 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Device 67df bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:67df
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: ati,amdgpu (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,radeon)
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: AMD Radeon RX 480 Graphics
           GLX Version: 4.5.13474 - CPC 17.10.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Device aaf0
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aaf0
           Card-2 Intel Sunrise Point-H HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:a170
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.8.0-58-generic
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: enp3s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1750.4GB (4.0% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_DT01ACA1 size: 1000.2GB serial: 37C6XNHNS
ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD7500BPKT size: 750.2GB serial: WD-WXS1E62NHXK4
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: nightflier on July 02, 2017, 05:10:48 am
Yes, ISO is not UEFI compatible.  :(
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: retired1af on July 02, 2017, 07:10:36 pm
Well, that kinda counts me out as far as testing. I yanked my Linux drive out of the notebook to use in the desktop. Until I get another full sized drive for the desktop, the notebook will pretty much collect dust until I can put the old drive back in.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: StrayBit on July 08, 2017, 04:54:27 pm
Have just installed STD RC3.  Not since B2 have I had any keyboard or mouse after reboot.  The md5sum checks out.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: M0E-lnx on July 11, 2017, 02:13:35 pm
Have just installed STD RC3.  Not since B2 have I had any keyboard or mouse after reboot.  The md5sum checks out.

Can you try this workaround?

At the boot splash, hit 'e' I think it is to edit the grub boot command.

Find the line with "ro quiet splash" on it and ADD "iommu=soft" (without quotes) right after the splash word. 
After that, hit F10 to continue booting and check if that gives you mouse and keyboard
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: StrayBit on July 14, 2017, 02:02:54 pm
Will that work with the CD install?
I have not let later installations attempt to install a boot loader as they hang during that process.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: nightflier on July 15, 2017, 04:54:17 am
@StrayBit,

Do I understand correctly that B2 was the last one to give you kb/mouse, and since then you have not allowed a new install to configure your boot loader?

Editing the boot options as explained above applies to GRUB. If you use lilo, you enter "Tab" to get to edit mode. The bootable CD uses syslinux, which works differently. However, your problem arises not during the installation, but after the first reboot?
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: StrayBit on July 15, 2017, 01:15:48 pm
I use lilo to boot B2.
I use the CD to boot RC3.
Title: Re: Vectorlinux 7.2 RC2 is released. More testing requested.
Post by: repkickz on August 10, 2018, 01:42:53 am
nice informartion