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The Vectorian Lounge => The Lounge => Topic started by: vector on April 22, 2007, 11:37:50 pm

Title: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: vector on April 22, 2007, 11:37:50 pm
The tagline "Choice of the Linux generation" seems too close to "choice of the GNU generation" and, sad to say, not as witty. How about "the choice is yours" or a terrible maths / physics pun like "We have magnitude and direction" ?

I think the tagline should be a good discussion..........how about "choice of a free generation"?
I'm open to suggestions as I'm not real pleased with that myself but something fresh would be welcome throw in your ideas........................ ;D

vec
Title: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on April 23, 2007, 12:26:07 am
I think the tagline should be a good discussion..........how about "choice of a free generation"?
I'm open to suggestions as I'm not real pleased with that myself but something fresh would be welcome throw in your ideas........................ ;D

vec

Well, "choice of a free generation" would pose essentially the same problem. "We have magnitude and direction" is the only thing witty I can think of right now, so I'll let others have a go at this now.

Using linear algebra and geometry would be interesting for future artwork, though. I draw like a troglodyte, so I can't really help here, unless it involves typesetting the maths or something similar.
Title: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: LLL on April 23, 2007, 05:38:32 pm
VECTORLINUX:
Rocking your socks since 1996

Not sure about the year (?), and it's a little silly, but it's also:

1) Fun
2) Denotes speed/excitement
3) Pun-filled in terms of the sox media player

Keep sharing! :)

LLL
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: exeterdad on April 23, 2007, 05:51:51 pm
It's fast on old hardware, I can only guess it flys on the newer stuff.

"Hold on tight"
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on April 23, 2007, 06:15:06 pm
VECTORLINUX:
Rocking your socks since 1996

Not sure about the year (?), and it's a little silly, but it's also:

It's not necessary to have the real year. Just use a figure that looks good and respectable, like '872 C.E.'

Edit: Nobody noticed the reference to King Harald 'Fairhair' I    :'(

Edited by LLL: Tried to click "quote" - hit Modify and didn't notice until it was too late. Tried to resurrect Hanu's original post. Apologies!
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: mymarkers on April 23, 2007, 08:36:32 pm
I like the math pun idea. I don't think I can top "We Have Magnitude and Direction" slogan." It's the simplest possible pun on "vector" and a deceptively accurate description of the distribution. Nonetheless, I'm pretty shameless when it comes to math puns, so I'll throw a few ideas out there.  (As far as I'm concerned they're not especially good, but hopefully I'll inspire somebody else).

Vector Linux: Spanning all of your computing needs.
Vector Linux: Maximal. Independent. The Basis for Computing.

While we're at it, we could rename the forums "The Vector Spaces."
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on April 23, 2007, 08:49:00 pm
I like the math pun idea. I don't think I can top "We Have Magnitude and Direction" slogan." It's the simplest possible pun on "vector" and a deceptively accurate description of the distribution. Nonetheless, I'm pretty shameless when it comes to math puns, so I'll throw a few ideas out there.  (As far as I'm concerned they're not especially good, but hopefully I'll inspire somebody else).

Vector Linux: Spanning all of your computing needs.
Vector Linux: Maximal. Independent. The Basis for Computing.

While we're at it, we could rename the forums "The Vector Spaces."

Ha ha, det är mycket god...
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: GrannyGeek on April 23, 2007, 09:51:47 pm
I like the math pun idea. I don't think I can top "We Have Magnitude and Direction" slogan." It's the simplest possible pun on "vector" and a deceptively accurate description of the distribution.

But how many people do you think would get it? I certainly didn't (don't). I don't think our distro wants to appeal just to math aficionados. To non-mathies, "We Have Magnitude and Direction" just seems odd.

I'd say forget the math puns.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on April 23, 2007, 09:59:00 pm
I think 'magnitude and direction' could be understood by someone without linear algebra or physics experience. (Personally, I was just terrible in physics.) It wouldn't be funny, but it would still leave an impression.

The only other connotation I can think of for the word 'vector' is a disease-carrying parasite, but even that can be spun to advantage: "Vector: An infectiously fun Linux experience!"
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: vector on April 23, 2007, 10:31:40 pm
to expand on "...hold tight" maybe "Fasten your seatbelts for departure.........." which i think sums it up.................... ;D
but keep em coming
vec
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on April 23, 2007, 10:53:29 pm
At this rate, we'll end with a surplus... :o
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: exeterdad on April 24, 2007, 08:17:38 am
VectorLinux

Seat belt's recommended.

lol
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: easuter on April 24, 2007, 09:07:31 am
"Fasten your seatbelts" sounds pretty good.

I'm not sure where I saw this other one though, but I think it was on a screenshot in the old forum (JohnB316 maybe?):

"Power up the warp drives!"
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: M0E-lnx on April 24, 2007, 09:21:03 am
Better yet, "Seatbelts Required!"
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on April 24, 2007, 10:32:09 am
...put your computer in the fast lane

...a new life for your old computer

...new life for older computers

...your old computer never worked better

...fast, efficient, complete

...fast Linux that just works

...fast Linux that does it all

VectorLinux...full speed ahead

VectorLinux...ahead full speed

VectorLinux...built for speed

VectorLinux...just works, but fast!

VectorLinux...the fast choice

VectorLinux...if you have a need for speed

VectorLinux...you have a need for speed

VectorLinux...the fast choice...does it all

VectorLinux...the fast choice...just works

VectorLinux...at warp speed!

VectorLinux...built for speed...just works

VectorLinux...built for speed...does it all

VectorLinux...ahead warp speed!

VectorLinux...speed, performance, stability

VectorLinux...speed, performance, stability...just works

VectorLinux...your choice for speed, performance, stability

VectorLinux...the best choice for speed, performance, stability

VectorLinux...tops in speed, performance, stability
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Freeman on April 24, 2007, 10:55:14 am
Vectorlinux.. Linux with a touch!
Vectorlinux... Did you think it could go any faster?!
Vectorlinux blinding speed!
Vectorlinux... Power at your feet!
Vectorlinux... Where will you be?
Vectorlinux... If speed is a necessity and stability a most have!
If it all comes down to one thing... Vectorlinux ...'Cause the choice is yours!
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: exeterdad on April 24, 2007, 11:41:03 am

"Power up the warp drives!"

Captain, I can't hold it any longer!
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: rbistolfi on April 24, 2007, 12:32:18 pm
What about "pointing the way" or something like that (I am thinking in spanish: "mostrando el camino", could exist a better translation  ;).
It matchs with the math sense (oviously a vector "points"), and if you are not a math guy has the "leader" sense, since VL is the leader and is pointing the way to all other linux distros  ;D.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: M-ake on April 24, 2007, 01:01:27 pm
I thought about something like this

Vectorlinux..when light is not fast enough.

Something like that.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: shahgols on April 24, 2007, 03:21:19 pm
I would like to see VL break the image of "being good for old hardware", since a lot of people just think of us as only good for that.

If the tagline touches on speed and stability, I think that would sum up VL very nicely. 

My input:  Vector Linux:  The fast and stable (distribution?)
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: LLL on April 24, 2007, 04:41:51 pm
Another option:

VECTORLINUX:
Just works. Fast.

Conveys speed and stability - both great aspects of VL.

First impression of "seatbelts" was great, but then concern came over the 'you need a safety net to use Linux' fears.

Maybe if it's accompanied by the speed reference:

VECTORLINUX: FAST
Seatbelts required.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on April 24, 2007, 05:03:07 pm
What about "pointing the way" or something like that (I am thinking in spanish: "mostrando el camino", could exist a better translation  ;).

"Pointing the way" is fine, but "revealing the path" or even "illuminating the path" sound like loose translations of the Spanish you gave.

"Vector: the Path to En1337enment!"
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: exeterdad on April 24, 2007, 06:09:45 pm
First impression of "seatbelts" was great, but then concern came over the 'you need a safety net to use Linux' fears.

Maybe if it's accompanied by the speed reference:

VECTORLINUX: FAST
Seatbelts required.

Very good point.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on April 24, 2007, 06:15:05 pm
Remark re current font and tagline quality: The reddish print is out of focus (fuzzy) and lacks solidity. Doesnt really convey solidity, stability. Maybe: solid white letters, slanted perhaps. Slanted letters give impression of motion (speed).



VectorLinux
                         ...speed, performance, stability




1. speed: we got your optimized fast linux right here

2. performance: here "performance" is a fancy word for "just works", "out of the box"

def. the fulfillment of a claim, promise, or request; implementation
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/performance
def. the execution or accomplishment of work, acts, feats, etc.
def. the manner in which or the efficiency with which something fulfills its intended purpose.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/performance

3. stability: based on Slackware, rock-solid reliability

Speed, Performance, and Stability are the three qualities most important to VectorLinux, probably in that order. And VectorLinux excels in these three qualities: It's fastest, it does everything out of the box well, and it's stable, unbreakable. Visitor is implicitly invited to try it and see for himself/herself.

Generally, VectorLinux has enjoyed friendly reviews written by partisans like Don Parris and Caitlyn Martin. The day may come when the reviewer is more impartial or even skeptical towards this distro. You can count on such a reviewer to comment the slogan in his screed. The tagline "speed, performance, stability" would challenge a reviewer to evaluate VL by these three criteria, in which case VL cant lose, cuz VL is superlative in all three.

Are there other characteristics which define VectorLinux like those three? ...characteristics that make VL stand out in the crowded field of Linux distributions?

(IMHO "speed, performance, stability" looks better in lower case, not caps.)

Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: GrannyGeek on April 24, 2007, 09:26:31 pm
I would like to see VL break the image of "being good for old hardware", since a lot of people just think of us as only good for that.

I was going to say the same thing. VectorLinux is GREAT for current hardware. It provides a fast, solid foundation on which a user can build whatever kind of system he or she wants.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on April 25, 2007, 05:21:06 am
Re: ......GENTLEMEN START YOUR ENGINES

Holy Mixed Metaphors, are we in a race?
Grammatical: comma needed after Gentlemen
Gender: Are you gonna be a gentleman about this, GrannyGeek?

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/engl/lang/mixmet.htm

http://therussler.tripod.com/dtps/mixed_metaphors.html

Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: GrannyGeek on April 25, 2007, 08:11:04 pm
Re: ......GENTLEMEN START YOUR ENGINES

Holy Mixed Metaphors, are we in a race?
Grammatical: comma needed after Gentlemen
Gender: Are you gonna be a gentleman about this, GrannyGeek?

I figured I'd save my thunder until I saw whether it made the cut.<g>

I don't know what percentage of Linux users are female. Whatever it is, we do need more. We won't get them if there's too much testosterone apparent in our public face.

GrampaGeek and I are not fans of auto racing. It's smelly, loud, wastes a lot of gas, and pollutes the air, and we find it boring besides. I would not be favorably impressed by a racing metaphor on the VL home page. That said, there are plenty of women who like auto racing. But they're not "gentlemen," and neither are all drivers.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on April 25, 2007, 08:42:08 pm
I don't know what percentage of Linux users are female. Whatever it is, we do need more. We won't get them if there's too much testosterone apparent in our public face.

Perhaps we need more acne cream.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: vector on April 25, 2007, 08:52:18 pm
OK i changed it back to "when choice matters" for the moment. The racing metaphor I thought was good till I was reminded of the times we live in................ :( . For now im more interested in the look. The solid light yellow text look ok with the fancy "VECTORLINUX" graphic? Keep the tag lines coming maybe we can choose a top five then a poll?
cheers,
Vec
thought of another "Houston we have ignition......."

Think in terms of a memorable slogan like you were an ad executive putting vector out for the first  time on a national television campaign.............like "fresh fast and for you"
This should be fun................ ;D
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on April 25, 2007, 09:08:26 pm
OK i changed it back to "when choice matters" for the moment. The racing metaphor I thought was good till I was reminded of the times we live in................ :(

We could play up the fact that Vector doesn't drag you into the upgrade treadmill, and is therefore environmentally responsible both in terms of material and energy consumption.

"Vector Linux: Staving off the entropic heat death of the Universe one install at a time."

Not slogan-y enough I guess...
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on April 25, 2007, 09:50:03 pm
I am beating a dead horse, I know. "Gentlemen Start Your Engines" is understandable to insiders, but what would a visitor think it means, a visitor who knows little or nothing about VL? It doesnt say much about VectorLinux. A visitor comes to the VL site to learn something about the OS, and he sees this tagline--well, he might be puzzled at what we're trying to say. We should be saying something meaningful to the visitor, the newcomer who actually reads the homepage. Before this logo-tagline thing began, when was the last time you read the homepage? As a Vectorite I go straight to the forum.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: newt on April 25, 2007, 11:57:05 pm
VectorLinux....is one box really enough?
VectorLinux....working so you don't have to.
VectorLinux....realize your potential.
VectorLinux....experience the potential.
VectorLinux....for kids of all ages.
VectorLinux....THEE choice for your computer.

but my favorite so far is

VectorLinux....Staving off the entropic heat death of the Universe one install at a time. (thx hanu ;D )
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on April 26, 2007, 07:09:23 am
"When Choice Matters"

What does this mean? It's ambiguous, it could mean several things, and I wonder if something in particular is intended.

1. The choice: Windows vs Linux
2. The choice: Vector vs other Linux
3. Calls attention to the difference between VL and ZW. VL has several apps for each function; ZW offers a single app per function. So VL offers a choice of apps while ZW does not give user a choice.
4. ?

What else does this phrase mean?
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: lagagnon on April 26, 2007, 08:55:18 am
First of all I think that whatever slogan we choose has to then be consistent across all our editions, because at the moment it is somewhat confusing because in various places we use:

1) At the Speed of Light
2) The Little Distro that Grows on You
3) When Choice Matters

I don't like either of the last two because #2 is not exactly correct for SOHO and as the PP says #3 is inocuous and doesn't say much. #1 better fits our distro.

Let us think about our strengths as a distro:

1) very fast, fast install, stable, unbloated
2) works well on older computers, keeps old machines out of the landfills
3) friendly, small, helpful online community
4) 3 editions to choose from (Standard, SOHO, Live)

Obviously, other distros can claim some of these features, but whatever slogan we choose should at least consider these strengths.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on April 26, 2007, 09:01:13 am
Well, I like "experience the potential" from newtor
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on April 26, 2007, 12:50:16 pm
Since humans cant physically see the motion of light, maybe "lightning fast" would bring that imagery down to earth. "Fast as lightning" is a recognizable hyperbole, whereas "at the speed of light" is a bit overboard (pretentious) in describing how fast an OS boots up and operates. On the other hand, "at the speed of light" sparks the imagination, probably has value historically. I wouldnt want to remove it, just not propagate it further.

I was genuinely curious about  the meaning of "When Choice Matters". It has gravitas that makes me think it means something special. If it's just a catch phrase that is required, I could accept "When Choice Matters". It's innocuous, it's not silly.

Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: mymarkers on April 26, 2007, 01:47:13 pm
I suggest that we are over-analyzing this. As long as the slogan isn't absolutely offensive or atrocious, it wouldn't influence my decision to use a distribution. My favorite aspect of Vector Linux is that it's more than a slogan. Other distributions and operating systems seem to be more about catch-phrases than developing an effective operating system. They rely primarily on empty rhetoric to distract from the actual merits of their systems.

On the other hand, the introduction of the Vector homepage concisely describes Vector's goals and strengths. My experience with Vector Linux confirms the accuracy of the description. Deeper investigation reveals comprehensive descriptions of exactly what Vector Linux provides. This really helps the decision to try a different operating system.

That said, I realize the value of marketing an operating system. Marketing is sadly a stronger force in putting operating systems on computers than the quality of the system. I don't really think it is possible to cram a full description into a little phrase. The goal of a tag line isn't descriptive anyway; it's an attention grabber. While newspaper headlines describe the article, their primary purpose is to entice the reader to read the article. In the case of Vector Linux, the goal is for visitors to read the introduction. Considering that they were already curious enough to visit the homepage, I suspect they'd read it anyway. So provided the tag line isn't absolutely abhorrent, I doubt it will have a huge impact on Vector's success.

(Yes, I am fully aware of the irony of writing this much to explain that I think we're over-analyzing it).
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: blurymind on April 26, 2007, 02:12:27 pm
vector linux- fastest non source distro on earth
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: exeterdad on April 26, 2007, 02:26:58 pm
Stability at Terminal Velocity...  VectorLinux
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: rbistolfi on April 26, 2007, 03:39:49 pm
All the post here are goods, but I think mymarkers has a point, may be we should close our options, pick up a few taglines and try to improve them, and offer the results to who makes the choice, we could stay posting forever...
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: kidd on April 26, 2007, 03:40:22 pm
I like the "VectorLinux...built for speed" one.

I came to vectorlinux looking for the fastest (non-source) distro, and although it can be just publicity, it would have given me more info about what vectorlinux was about :)
The "built" word for me has the nuance of being solid (built on solid rock slackware......) and being previously manipulated by someone (devs), so LFS or gentoo could not tell about themselves that, and thus it's not so difficult to use.

Of course that's my impression after using VL for some time.  I don't know if people interested in VL but no knowledge of its internals will get that feeling from the "built for speed" tagline

Just my 2cents
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: saulgoode on April 26, 2007, 05:52:41 pm
"Go Right To Ludicrous Speed"

"Your computer should do more than just work"

Off-topic, there was once a Microsoft campaign in Japan which had the slogan, "If you don't know where you're going, we can help get you there." I've always thought that was cute.


Actually, I think just dropping the "when" and saying "Choice Matters" would be fine.

Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: GrannyGeek on April 26, 2007, 08:03:03 pm
I was genuinely curious about  the meaning of "When Choice Matters". It has gravitas that makes me think it means something special. If it's just a catch phrase that is required, I could accept "When Choice Matters". It's innocuous, it's not silly.

I don't think there is some deep meaning in it, but it does suggest a lot of what I like about VectorLinux. First, I don't have to use the same operating system as over 90% of computer users. I have a choice--and am taking advantage of it. Linux itself is all about choice. GUI or not--it's your choice. Desktop environment/window manager--take your pick. No matter whether your thing is eye candy or minimalism, you can have it in Linux. Because VL is so easily configurable, you're not limited to the distro's default. As for applications, Linux offers a wide choice. You can make your system what *YOU* want it to be, not what some corporation thinks it should be.

Because VectorLinux can accommodate a wide range of hardware, whether and when to upgrade your hardware are your choice, not something you *must* do in order to run a current operating system.

But don't look for too much profundity in a slogan. :)
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: vector on April 26, 2007, 10:27:12 pm
Granny............amen..............thank you . You took the words right out of my mouth

vec
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on April 27, 2007, 07:04:49 am
Generally, VectorLinux has enjoyed friendly reviews written by partisans like Don Parris and Caitlyn Martin. The day may come when the reviewer is more impartial or even skeptical towards this distro. (example: Do we really need yet another Linux distribution?) You can count on such a reviewer to comment the slogan in his screed. The tagline "speed, performance, stability" would invite a reviewer to evaluate VL by these three criteria, in which case VL comes up smelling roses, cuz VL is superlative in all three.

Are there other characteristics which define VectorLinux like those three? ...characteristics that make VL stand out in the crowded field of Linux distributions?

Possibles                                     Characteristic                                         
friendly, helpful forum                    service support                                       
blurymind's artwork                       beauty                         
configurability                              choice                                                   

Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: rbistolfi on April 27, 2007, 07:52:06 am
Quote
Actually, I think just dropping the "when" and saying "Choice Matters" would be fine.

Quote
"built for speed"

I like both very much, dropping "when" make it sound more powerfull.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on April 27, 2007, 09:37:34 am

Are there other characteristics which define VectorLinux like those three? ...characteristics that make VL stand out in the crowded field of Linux distributions?


The forum, TLZ packages, slapt-get, and blurymind's artwork, just for starters...
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on April 27, 2007, 11:27:23 am
Agree about the helpful, friendly forum. Not sure we can boast friendliness, however. Best demonstrated than advertised.* The items you list are covered by performance and stability, mostly.

*You have a friend in Pennsylvania

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

I'm from Pennsylvania, but that's funny as hell!!!!ONE111!!!111
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: exeterdad on April 27, 2007, 11:42:03 am
I like "Built for performance" better than "Built for speed".

Something can be speedy, but that doesn't mean it runs well.  The word performance ties a lot more things together than just speed.  VL performs.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on April 27, 2007, 11:48:19 am
I'm suggesting three:  "...speed, performance, stability"

(see my post on page 2 of this thread)
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Monty67 on April 28, 2007, 08:07:58 pm
Vectorlinux...more worried about creating the best distro then the best slogan.

Vectorlinux...speed, stability, choice. Slogan optional.

Vectorlinux...with a stable and fast distro like ours who needs catchy slogans.

JUst tossing some "ideas" into the ring.  ;D
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: MikeCindi on April 28, 2007, 09:20:28 pm
Vector...fast, stable...Linux
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on May 16, 2007, 08:25:06 am


VectorLinux
  ...speed, performance, stability




1. speed: we got your optimized fast linux right here

2. performance: here "performance" is a fancy word for "just works", "out of the box", "does it all"

def. the fulfillment of a claim, promise, or request; implementation
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/performance
def. the execution or accomplishment of work, acts, feats, etc.
def. the manner in which or the efficiency with which something fulfills its intended purpose.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/performance

3. stability: based on Slackware, rock-solid reliability
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: rbistolfi on May 16, 2007, 08:38:58 am
Nigthflyer used this tag in a package request, I think fits perfectly with the VL image:

Vector linux, efficient computing...
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: soren on May 16, 2007, 09:35:38 am
My favourites are "Magnitude and direction" and the one about "Terminal Velocity" (VLocity?  :P ). I think they are both true and funny.

Magnitude and direction is funny and a good slogan on so many levels, it's almost scary. But then again, I have extensive training in linear algebra.. I still think that anyone, mathematician or not, can understand how it's a good thing if a distro has magnitude and direction.

Terminal velocity is obviously funny and meaningful to anyone accostumed to using the terminal, and to newcomers it's a nice catch phrase describing the well-known speed of VL.

All that being said, I think a good slogan is less important than the good impression left by the homepage. Many distros have crappy, ugly, confusing homepages with little or no imformation about the product they have to offer. vectorlinux.com is quite the opposite, and if I am right in assuming that the homepage is the first place people come to learn about VL, we have a significant advantage over most other distros.

JMTC,
Søren
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on May 16, 2007, 11:38:14 am


VectorLinux
  ...experience the difference



Speed, performance, stability -- these are attributes that set VectorLinux apart in the crowded field of Linux distributions. VectorLinux is a lighterweight, fast, Linux operating system for Intel-AMD x86 compatible systems and is based upon Slackware, one of the original Linux distributions. Slackware is the true 'Unix' of Linux distributions and its popularity stems from the fact that it is a robust, versatile and almost unbreakable system. VectorLinux has improved Slackware to produce a bloat free, easy to install, configure and maintain operating system that is second to none. We include automatic hardware configuration, unique administration tools and easy software package management via the Gslapt/slapt-get system. VectorLinux is considered to be the fastest, non-source Linux distribution on the planet!

You are cordially invited to try VectorLinux and experience the difference firsthand. Welcome home.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Difference_engine
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: GrannyGeek on May 16, 2007, 06:33:27 pm
I really don't like "Magnitude and Direction" or "Terminal Velocity." While "Magnitude and Direction" may seem descriptive and fitting to math types, it's nearly meaningless to us non-mathies. Sure, I know what "magnitude" means and "direction" means, but how they apply to a distro escapes me. Believe me, this techie-insider stuff turns off the vast majority of users, who are decidedly non-techie and don't wish to be so.

"Terminal Velocity" is, if anything, even worse. How many people know what a terminal is? How many prospective users have a burning desire to deal with terminals, even if they know what a terminal is? Most non-techies are scared to death of terminals. If you want to talk about speed, say "speed," not the rather pretentious "velocity."

I think "Speed, Performance, Stability" is pretty good. I also think a slogan isn't something on which the fortunes of VectorLinux will rise or fall.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: saulgoode on May 16, 2007, 07:03:05 pm
I really don't like "Magnitude and Direction" or "Terminal Velocity." While "Magnitude and Direction" may seem descriptive and fitting to math types, it's nearly meaningless to us non-mathies.

It could be worse, we could target the epidemiologist market with a slogan like "Get Infected!" :)
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: tanelle on May 16, 2007, 11:46:29 pm
I think Nubcnubdo has a good sence of slogans. From all I read two options seem to look professional:

1.  ...speed, performance, stability
         this one is very much telling the vectorlinux story.

2. ...experience the difference
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on May 17, 2007, 08:31:18 am


VectorLinux
  ...discover the difference



Speed, performance, stability -- these are attributes that set VectorLinux apart in the crowded field of Linux distributions. VectorLinux is a lighterweight, fast, Linux operating system for Intel-AMD x86 compatible systems and is based upon Slackware, one of the original Linux distributions. Slackware is the true 'Unix' of Linux distributions and its popularity stems from the fact that it is a robust, versatile and almost unbreakable system. VectorLinux has improved Slackware to produce a bloat free, easy to install, configure and maintain operating system that is second to none. We include automatic hardware configuration, unique administration tools and easy software package management via the Gslapt/slapt-get system. VectorLinux is considered to be the fastest, non-source Linux distribution on the planet!

Give VectorLinux a try and discover the difference yourself. Welcome home.





Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: saulgoode on May 17, 2007, 08:49:01 am
Nubcnubdo, nice work. Personally, I think "Vector Linux" has an appearance aesthetically preferable to "VectorLinux".

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...for Intel-AMD x86 compatible systems...

Perhaps add VIA processors. Vector would seem quite well-suited for ITX systems.

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VectorLinux has improved Slackware...

I would suggest "Vector Linux has added enhancements to Slackware..."; no sense in torquing off the SW fans (or Patryk).

Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on May 18, 2007, 06:19:42 am
Can I patent a song, poem, slogan, idea, etc.?

No. A copyright is the appropriate form of protection for works of authorship. You need not register your work of authorship until you need to enforce your copyright, which is created automatically. You can register your work at the web site of the U.S. Copyright Office. A copyright cannot be used to protect titles, names, short phrases, slogans, ideas, procedures, methods, systems, processes, concepts, principles, discoveries, devices, standard calendars, height and weight charts, tape measures and rulers, or lists or tables taken from public documents or other common sources. Learn more about which form of intellectual property protection is best for your creation by reading my Inventor's Guide.

http://www.webpatent.com/content/answers.htm#auth

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Slogans

Q: How can I protect a slogan?

A:  Let me repeat a well known quotation (or slogan?) and say "It ain't easy."

First, slogans, no matter how clever or how original, are not considered to embody sufficient original authorship for copyright protection. The U.S. Copyright Office will bounce your application.

Note that the U.S. Copyright Office does not judge the merit of someone's work. It can be a mediocre painting or a tedious article, or even a lousy poem, and it will be registered (provided of course that the required information is provided, on the correct lines).

In refusing to register slogans, the Copyright Office is not passing judgment on the merit of the slogan, but on the nature of the work as a mere slogan. The sufficient authorship requirement goes at least in part to policy as to what, and what not, can be held away from the public domain.

Second, a number of years ago it became trendy to place a trademark right up on the front of the product. My best guess is that the trend started with the little alligators. The little alligators were shown on the pockets of the shirts. Since the little alligators told everyone that you were wearing an upscale (expensive) brand, the alligators drove sales. The other manufacturers began adding their brand names to the front, and that drove sales too. Then even the off-brand brands came to the front, but that gets to a different story.

Well since putting the brand name on the front was now conventional, some folks successfully protected their slogans under trademark law, by selling t-shirts etc. with the slogan on the front and a prominent "TM" symbol.

This practice went on for quite a long time before the USPTO started clamping down on it. It still can be done, but not as easy as just slapping it on the front of a t-shirt or whatever. In fact, if a t-shirt front is your use specimen, registration will be undoubtedly be refused as merely ornamental use.

In addition, although trademark law does not require original authorship, common slogans and common symbols are excluded from trademark protection even if you establish appropriate trademark use.

http://www.noreklaw.com/slogans.htm
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on May 18, 2007, 07:10:38 am
saulgoode:

The body of text beneath the tagline is taken verbatim from the front page of vectorlinux.com.  I merely added a first line and a last line to follow up the theme of the proposed tagline. This worked well because I originally derived the attributes of speed, performance, and stability by studying this homepage Introduction. While the attributes describe VL well, they don't suggest any action. "Discover the difference" and "experience the difference" are in the imperative mood; they are commands with an implied subject "you". It isn't conspicous but the taglines strongly suggest that you try VL, to see for yourself that VL is an improvement over other distros.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Diabolic Preacher on May 24, 2007, 11:32:07 am
vector linux...choice of the choosy
choice of performance conscious
choice of sleek conscious
choice of direction conscious
choice of DP
;)
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on May 28, 2007, 09:56:50 am
I'm running PCLinuxOS 2007 now as I type, and it's kinda nice. I got two packages with synaptic, so now it plays movies, everything at youtube. So I guess I will compare to VL SOHO, see how we're doing. The PCLOS tagline/slogan is "radically simple." [period inclusive]
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: never_stop_learning on May 28, 2007, 04:43:17 pm
Vector Linux
..........Fast, Friendly, Reliable Computing

Vector Linux
..........Fast, Friendly, Reliable

Vector Linux
..........Linux For The Masses

Vector Linux
..........Linux For Everyone

Just my $.02.....
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: DrCR on May 29, 2007, 10:09:06 pm
I was genuinely curious about  the meaning of "When Choice Matters". It has gravitas that makes me think it means something special. If it's just a catch phrase that is required, I could accept "When Choice Matters". It's innocuous, it's not silly.

I don't think there is some deep meaning in it, but it does suggest a lot of what I like about VectorLinux. First, I don't have to use the same operating system as over 90% of computer users. I have a choice--and am taking advantage of it. Linux itself is all about choice. GUI or not--it's your choice. Desktop environment/window manager--take your pick. No matter whether your thing is eye candy or minimalism, you can have it in Linux. Because VL is so easily configurable, you're not limited to the distro's default. As for applications, Linux offers a wide choice. You can make your system what *YOU* want it to be, not what some corporation thinks it should be.

Because VectorLinux can accommodate a wide range of hardware, whether and when to upgrade your hardware are your choice, not something you *must* do in order to run a current operating system.

But don't look for too much profundity in a slogan. :)
--GrannyGeek

I actually like When Choice Matters. :)

Alternatives:
- Off on a Tangent  ;D
- d/dx (slackware) = vector ;D

- Or a more serious option, Stablity at Speed.

But again, to be honest, I prefer When Choice Matters. :)
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on May 31, 2007, 07:05:11 am


VectorLinux
        discover the difference



Speed, performance, stability -- these are attributes that set VectorLinux apart in the crowded field of Linux distributions. VectorLinux is a lighterweight, fast, Linux operating system for Intel-AMD x86 compatible systems and is based upon Slackware, one of the original Linux distributions. Slackware is the true 'Unix' of Linux distributions and its popularity stems from the fact that it is a robust, versatile and almost unbreakable system. VectorLinux has improved Slackware to produce a bloat free, easy to install, configure and maintain operating system that is second to none. We include automatic hardware configuration, unique administration tools and easy software package management via the Gslapt/slapt-get system. VectorLinux is considered to be the fastest, non-source Linux distribution on the planet!

Give VectorLinux a try and discover the difference yourself. Welcome home.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on May 31, 2007, 07:12:42 am


VectorLinux
          DISCOVER THE DIFFERENCE



Speed, performance, stability -- these are attributes that set VectorLinux apart in the crowded field of Linux distributions. VectorLinux is a lighterweight, fast, Linux operating system for Intel-AMD x86 compatible systems and is based upon Slackware, one of the original Linux distributions. Slackware is the true 'Unix' of Linux distributions and its popularity stems from the fact that it is a robust, versatile and almost unbreakable system. VectorLinux has improved Slackware to produce a bloat free, easy to install, configure and maintain operating system that is second to none. We include automatic hardware configuration, unique administration tools and easy software package management via the Gslapt/slapt-get system. VectorLinux is considered to be the fastest, non-source Linux distribution on the planet!

Give VectorLinux a try and discover the difference yourself. Welcome home.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on May 31, 2007, 07:15:13 am


VectorLinux
       discover the difference



Speed, performance, stability -- these are attributes that set VectorLinux apart in the crowded field of Linux distributions. VectorLinux is a lighterweight, fast, Linux operating system for Intel-AMD x86 compatible systems and is based upon Slackware, one of the original Linux distributions. Slackware is the true 'Unix' of Linux distributions and its popularity stems from the fact that it is a robust, versatile and almost unbreakable system. VectorLinux has improved Slackware to produce a bloat free, easy to install, configure and maintain operating system that is second to none. We include automatic hardware configuration, unique administration tools and easy software package management via the Gslapt/slapt-get system. VectorLinux is considered to be the fastest, non-source Linux distribution on the planet!

Give VectorLinux a try and discover the difference yourself. Welcome home.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: vector on May 31, 2007, 11:43:57 am
Very nice nubcnubdo, I get a little time to play with the website we will give this a shot see how it looks.................. ;D
Thanks to all that have contributed to this thread. As the saying goes several heads are better than one.

cheers,
vec

EDIT its up what do you all think? http://vectorlinux.com
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on June 01, 2007, 05:50:16 am
A few points:

I think lower case "discover the difference" is easier to read at a glance.

Because "discover the difference" is a complete sentence and not just a phrase, I think the dots are distracting and serve no purpose. An italic slant or even a cursive font will suffice to set it off.

Leaving out "yourself" in the final sentence leaves me hanging, seems like the thought was artificially truncated as a device to get the tagline out one last time. The final "Welcome home" precludes the preceding command being taken as flippant.

"Give VectorLinux a try and discover the difference yourself. Welcome home."

Again, the dots between the sentences are unnecessary, not to mention ungrammatical. When I read the final line, I dont hear a long pause, only the undramatic pause between two sentences.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: rbistolfi on June 01, 2007, 08:46:11 am
Looks very nice to me, good work. After saw it at the site, I only have a suggest, I didnt said it before because it brings up when I read it on the website context, under the "introduction" title. I think the next sentence after the title should be "VectorLinux is a ligth..." and we could set the "speed..." one after.
About the other points, I think we should stay with the standard use and grammar much as we can.

Give VectorLinux a try and discover the difference... Welcome home.




Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: nubcnubdo on June 01, 2007, 11:48:18 am
Quote
I think lower case "discover the difference" is easier to read at a glance.

One way to make the tagline (in CAPS) a little more legible might be to increase the distance (space) between the three words, say, 50% for starters. Two spaces between the three words increased by 50%, that's half again.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on June 02, 2007, 10:13:45 pm
"Vector Linux is ready for you, but are YOU ready for VectorLinux?"

"Vector Linux: Awesome rammed down your throat with a pile driver."

"What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object? I don't know, but we'll find out if Vector Linux ever punches itself in the head."

Also, let's superimpose the VL logo on the Land-waster banner.
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: rbistolfi on June 03, 2007, 12:23:50 pm
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"What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object? I don't know, but we'll find out if Vector Linux ever punches itself in the head."

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Nice use of the paradox, hanu

"Faster than any linux, including itself".
Title: Re: VL Tagline: Choice of a...? (Have your say!)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on June 03, 2007, 09:49:05 pm
Ripped off of the Vin Diesel facts list:

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Vin_Diesel/Facts

"You are what you eat. That is why Vector Linux's diet consists entirely of bricks, steel, and the tears of small children."