VectorLinux

General Announcements => Distro Releases => Topic started by: uelsk8s on May 17, 2007, 06:22:31 am

Title: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: uelsk8s on May 17, 2007, 06:22:31 am
 It's here, and finally it's Final! The long awaited VL-SOHO 5.8 IS ready for the taking. Bugs have been squashed, new features implemented such as revised binary NVIDIA and ATI drivers installation. They are compiled for the individual hardware on the spot to insure optimum performance. We felt it was time to give our users the best out of the box experience, and in today's world video performance is a must. Firefox and OpenOffice are updated to their latest versions. Also, some serious updates to Vasm reflect new configuration programs Several wifi drivers were updated, including ndiswrapper and madwifi. There are some eye candy updates as well as some tweaks to the installation process.

The latest SOHO includes a custom 2.6.20.3 SMP Kernel, compiled with bootsplash, squashfs, lzma, and realtime patches. It supports reading and writing to NTFS-formatted media via fuse and ntfs-3g. The desktop environment is KDE version 3.5.6 with Kmyfirewall, Amarok 1.4.5, and OpenOffice version 2.2. Multimedia applications such as VLC 0.8.6a, Mplayer 1.0RC1, K3B-1.0.1 and graphics editors such as The Gimp version 2.2.14 and Xara Xtreme version 0.7 are also included. Printing is supported by cups with hpijs drivers for HP printers, and gutenprint drivers for many other popular printers. There is a whole new look and feel, from the boot menu to the desktop. We call it beautiful. We know it's fast! The choice is yours.....

The download release version is here: http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-5.8/iso-release/VL5.8-SOHO-final.iso

Thanks to everyone who helped with theis release,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: t'web on May 17, 2007, 06:59:15 am
Congratulations!
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: M0E-lnx on May 17, 2007, 07:48:53 am
Sweet mother of God... It's alive!!!!
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: lagagnon on May 17, 2007, 08:30:34 am
Having recently re-mastered my own VL5.8 Standard version I am aware of how many tens of hours goes into getting a distro ready for release. Given our small community and the even smaller handful of developers we should all sincerely thank them for their labour of love. We all benefit from their very hard work.

Cheers guys!

Larry
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: rbistolfi on May 17, 2007, 08:47:55 am
Congratulations to all the devs! I cant wait to install it...
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: nightflier on May 17, 2007, 09:19:16 am
Excellent! Many thanks to the tireless developers.

Md5sum: http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-5.8/iso-release/VL58SOHOfinal-md5sum.txt
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: newt on May 17, 2007, 09:30:23 am
Available via bittorrent as well:

http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=4118&hit=1
or
http://www.mininova.org/tor/709328
or
http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1164509/

(Please help seed this and we can take some of the load of the main server)
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: MikeCindi on May 17, 2007, 11:13:37 am
lagagnon said it very well...thank you very much.
Mike (of mikecindi)
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: carl on May 17, 2007, 12:01:19 pm
 8)
I have been looking forward to it like a little boy  :)
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: GrannyGeek on May 17, 2007, 12:51:50 pm
I'm not using SOHO, but I know many will be using it and have been eagerly awaiting it. It sounds great.

Thanks, devs and testers, and congratulations!
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: easuter on May 17, 2007, 02:36:03 pm
Hooray!!  ;D

Congratulations on yet another great release.  :)
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: whitez on May 17, 2007, 04:01:34 pm
great ,just before weekend  :),many thanks
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: UKBill on May 17, 2007, 04:41:54 pm
Congrats guys !!!

I´m sure it´s a great release as always :D .

Best wishes!
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Jerry on May 17, 2007, 05:18:10 pm
...er, has anybody actually tried to burn this to CD yet?  My burner
says it's too big for a 700Mb CD.  No go.

Just curious.

Is this supposed to be a DVD, maybe?  Some other problem?
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: retired1af on May 17, 2007, 05:35:22 pm
Burned just fine with KB3.... Burned and installed. Flawless as usual. Good job folks.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: jimwill on May 17, 2007, 06:29:42 pm
Darn...and I just finished downloading RC3!!!  ;D
Oh well-now I can get the FINAL that I've been waiting for  ;D ;D

Thanks yall, I do appreciate it!!

Jim
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: niiler on May 17, 2007, 07:08:43 pm
Nice job everyone.  I put it on a friend's old PIII (450 MHz, 192 MB RAM) this evening.  My only issue was that the ATI card didn't configure properly and I spent about 15 minutes screwing around with xorg.conf before just using xorg.conf-vesa.  For some reason *none* of the ATI drivers would work, but this could be because of the age of the card.

Once up  ;D!  For comparison, on my own laptop I am running a heavily modified VL 5.8 standard with KDE 3.5.5.  My laptop sports 512 MB RAM and an AMD Sempron Processor 3300 (2.0 GHz etc).  KDE starts faster on the old clunker than on my laptop.  The desktop is snappy and took about 1.5 hours to configure (including printing, scanning and, well, the works - including backups).  OpenOffice starts in about 6 seconds from first click!  Paging between desktops happens in about a second.  My laptop feels a tad slow in some areas. 

The only thing that didn't work well was Xine playing a DVD.  This was because of the VESA vs. ATI stuff, I'm sure.  On the other hand, we went to the Apple trailers site and the previews played without dropping a frame.

Additionally, all mime types seem to be properly configured. 

Very Nice!  I'll be upgrading my laptop next week, and my father-in-law the week after.  Thanks!
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: DrCR on May 17, 2007, 10:46:58 pm
My burner says it's too big for a 700Mb CD.
What software did you use?


Sweet action! Was about to, rather belatedly, install RC3. Glad I noticed this first! Thanks for such an awesome distro!  :D

DrCR
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Lyn on May 18, 2007, 12:20:00 am
Downloading now, thanks to all for the hard work in getting this out the door.....
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Codo on May 18, 2007, 04:08:17 am
 ;D I can`t wait until i can install my VectorLinux Soho!!!! Great job! I`m in the moon. Congratulations for all the team!
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Jerry on May 18, 2007, 09:19:35 am
Burned just fine with KB3.... Burned and installed. Flawless as usual. Good job folks.

It's this stupid burn utility in Vista "Premium."  I'm gonna hafta download and
burn from my PCLinuxOS machine at home. 

Looks like everyone's enjoying the new Vector SOHO;  I can hardly wait.  Yay.  ;D
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: nj_jak on May 19, 2007, 04:49:24 am
Super!!

Have just installed on old IBM Thinkpad T22 (900 MHz, 512M RAM) - looking gooooooooooooooooood!!!
Looking forward to convince the wife on installing on the desktop (Celeron D 3,3GHz, 1 G RAM - this will fly to the moon!!)


Thanks to everyone at Vector - you guys are the best!!
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Monty67 on May 20, 2007, 06:24:09 am
Awesome, my Hpaq latop has been waiting eagerly for this release for dual boot.

MANY THANKS TO ALL THAT WERE INVOLVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will start checking his mail box for his freshly minted disk.  ;D
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: no2thesame on May 21, 2007, 01:21:36 am
Thanks to all the developers. This is an amazing distro. It even has GVim and knetwalk on the CD! Seriously though, very few things run to Gslapt for.

Is it fast or am I just imagining it? Even the download was faster than the beta.
I've installed (easily) on two 800MHz machines one previously running VL 5.1.1 SOHO and the other with 5.8 Standard and it seems to run faster on both.
I'm stoked. Within 20 minutes of installing my daughter was printing off her college assignments and I was cruising the web. Great.

I'll be telling my local LUG http://login.linux.org.au/doku.php (http://login.linux.org.au/doku.php)  tonight about the experience.

Thanks again to all involved.
no2 
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: keyfitter on May 21, 2007, 05:54:46 pm

  I've been using VL 5.8 Deluxe since it first came out as my main operating
system. I just downloaded and installed VL 5.8 SOHO. All I can say is "GREAT
JOB" and thanks to the developers of this wonderful upgrade.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: BlueMage on May 22, 2007, 04:46:08 am
And to think, I wasn't going to check for another couple of days - Amarok playing up must've been a sign or something.  Cheers guys!
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: OU812 on May 22, 2007, 07:45:46 am
I have been waiting 3 years (well, technically 7 if you count the time I tried to install RHL 4.0 on a Win95 machine with a 1.2 gig hard drive) for a linux distro that I could call home; the wait is over. Thank you.

john
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: JJSH on May 22, 2007, 02:02:55 pm
This is superb. I have played with various versions of vector linux, the longest was with 5.1 Std (I think), that I used on an IBM 1Ghzish laptop, until it died.

I had tried 5.8 STD RC 1 , but had to toast that because the machine was required for some server development. I obtained a Sempron 3000+ based system ( 1 Gb RAM, 160Gb HD, Nvidia 6200 256Mb card, ASUS Mainboard), and put the latest Ubuntu on there with the view to standardising a linux desktop for all my machines that were running XP. I couldn't believe how slow and unresponsive it was.

I've just put 5.8 SOHO in there and I can't believe the difference. Compared with previous versions of VL, this just seems so polished, but without loosing the trademark vector speed. I've never seen KDE so nippy.

Well done folks!
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: tomh38 on May 23, 2007, 02:03:17 am
Did I miss something or did this great and very important release not show up on Distrowatch?  I still look at Distrowatch a few times a week even though I only use Vector, just because it's a good place to see what's happening in the world of Linux distributions.  Or so I thought ...

BTW I'm personally waiting this one out until I can have xorg 7.x and Beryl.  ;D
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: tomh38 on May 23, 2007, 08:03:06 am
I should have said this in my last post:  To my knowledge Vector is the best desktop Linux distribution that exists, and I tried between 15 and 20 of them before I settled on VL.  I know that the developer community is small compared to a lot of other distros, but the quality of Vector tells me that the Vector developers are all very talented and dedicated.  I'm installing 5.8 SOHO on another machine right now, and based on past experience I know that I will be impressed.  Thank all of you who work on Vector for all of your hard work, and all of the members of the VL community who are all so helpful.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: shahgols on May 23, 2007, 09:26:15 am
Thank you to everyone who made this possible!

I'm downloading via bittorrent and will seed it as well.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Fred Mertz on May 23, 2007, 02:58:17 pm
Fine work gents (and ladies).  Can't wait to delve into it.

Quick question: Is it any easier to get e17 up and running?  I had some difficulty with 5.1, but then again, I'm a hopeless n00b.  Will Rasterman ever finish the thing?  I've always thought that combining the speed and stability of Slack with the elegant beauty of Enlightenment was a great idea.

Fred
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Masta on May 23, 2007, 03:39:25 pm
I haven't tried E17 on 5.1, but I have on 5.8 during it's beta and RC stages. Wasn't a difficult task for me. Apart from that, I can't give a comparison of 5.1 and 5.8.

Also, even easier, is that the deluxe already has E17 packaged specifically for 5.8 (it's on the second CD), real snap to install, and you don't have to do any extra configuration to get it up and running, simply select it from the KDM Login screen.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: tomh38 on May 23, 2007, 05:24:02 pm
Fred Mertz:  I had problems getting E17 running on 5.1, but I'll second what Masta said - Enlightenment is really simple to install on 5.8.  Also, I think it's come a long way since 5.1 was current. 
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: |nic| on May 27, 2007, 05:05:27 am
SWEET ... Downloading rightnow :-)
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: BlueMage on May 27, 2007, 07:50:50 pm
Would anyone mind if I just gushed again about how awesome this version is?  See, I had some issues with sound previously - amarok dying, and xine slowly carking it too.  So I reinstalled, kept all the settings from last and such.

Everything.  Just.  Works.

I love this distro.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Diabolic Preacher on May 29, 2007, 06:38:04 pm
is it safe to upgrade from RC2 to final version no matter what system-wide changes are done? will it reset a lot of stuff like the kernel modules i'd enabled or the drivers i've installed etc.?

in short, till what point of customization is it safe to upgrade to 5.8 soho final?
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: The Headacher on May 30, 2007, 12:07:40 am
Quote
till what point of customization is it safe to upgrade to 5.8 soho final?
Everything that's on the "/"  partition will be overwritten. So you'll loose everything that isn't in a seperate partition. Some users have a seperate /home partition that they mount after installing a new VL, thus saving all their users settings.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Diabolic Preacher on May 30, 2007, 03:34:13 pm
so that means all the packages that i had installed will have to be reinstalled again....with the condition that probably some may not work as well.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Masta on May 30, 2007, 06:21:18 pm
That means, yes you'll have to install all those extras again. Whether or not that means they might not work as well, I can't see why  if they're working currently. IMHO , "if it isn't broke, don't fix it" , with this quote I'll twist a little to mean, that it is better to use the repository to update anything that you suspect needs updating. If things are working well for you with an RC2 base, then you won't really miss too much compared to the Final. The Final DOES have some advantage as bug fixes were introduced, and the like,, but I would think that much of those fixes might also be applied in via the /patch section of the repository.

I think a browse over the change logs between RC2 and Final, might have more helpful information to guide you into your decision to upgrade or stay.   Hope I helped by some way.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: The Headacher on May 30, 2007, 11:26:32 pm
Quote
so that means all the packages that i had installed will have to be reinstalled again
Of course, it wouldn't make much sense to leave all sorts of trash on there when reinstalling. A clean install is a clean install.

Quote
with the condition that probably some may not work as well.
I don't see why a package that worked on SOHO RC2 wouldn't work on SOHO final.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Diabolic Preacher on May 31, 2007, 03:29:47 am
1. i do have the patch branch in my source list
2. RC2 never complains n nags that it's a RC (like i seen some vista builds). though i got the final version...to give to my friends.
3. all i care now about is if there were any security advisories/issues that were addressed in the final n not there in the repos or not possible to be incorporated in RC2. not that i run servers for national defense...but personal data is personal data :D

thank you for the wonderful RC2....
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Diabolic Preacher on May 31, 2007, 03:35:38 am
Of course, it wouldn't make much sense to leave all sorts of trash on there

:(

i take so much trouble to install what you call as 'trash'
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: The Headacher on May 31, 2007, 05:47:54 am
Quote
i take so much trouble to install what you call as 'trash'.
I didn't mean those necessarily, but imagine what other stuff might be left behind if for some reason not everything would be removed at a new install... I can only imagine the chaos that you'd get from installing one distro over another.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Diabolic Preacher on May 31, 2007, 10:17:16 am
i actually have had an experience which agrees with what you say...

long back i entered world of first-hand experience with linux using red hat 9 like i hear majority in india do...

updated to Fedora Core (FC) 1. they have option to either update or do a clean install....things went smooth. all the hats became fedoras...kinda :)

...then...

tried updating to FC3. FC2 was supposed to have some serious bug or something...like didn't know about forums or stuff....and couldn't ask for much on a dial-up. guess what happened when i tried to 'upgrade'. my installation got bashed (pun intended). the new bash version put all its stuff under a new subdir and every possible thing seemed to fail...like all the backend n all...i couldn't even get the cd writer software (X-CDRoast i think) to do some backups and i didn't know of mini-distros. i wonder if anything as wonderful as puppy linux existed then. fortunately i believed in linux a lil less than now n most of my data were on the win fat partitions.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: jeffles on June 18, 2007, 10:41:10 am
After installing suse 10.2 on my desktop I decided to give it the boot. Since I have been running Vector SOHO on my A21 Thinkpad (700mhz, 384mb ram) I decided to try 5.8 SOHO on my desktop... WHAT A GREAT DECISION! The desktop is polished and beautiful.
The only thing I miss from suse is the integrated beagle search... absolutely nothing else. The Nvidia drivers work (not so on suse).
I can't wait to install 5.8 on my thinkpad.
Thanks for all your hard work.
jeff
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: leobing on June 22, 2007, 09:45:21 pm
I am running it and I think it is about the best Linux version I have tried.
No blemishes or problems. It installs easily and just plain runs well. I can install everything I have tried and no hickups.
Excellent work. Thanks much to all the people who worked on it.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: keyfitter on June 23, 2007, 07:31:43 pm
I have been using Vector Linux since the end of December 2006. I was happy with 5.8 Deluxe as my main O.S until I downloaded and tried 5.8. SOHO. I am impressed to say the least. I built this computer with speed in mind, and 5.8 SOHO  really flies on it as well as looking great!.  ;D
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Megamieuwsel on June 25, 2007, 01:52:13 am
Weird: When,during install, I chose not to install the screensaver, the installation barfed out upon unpacking either the OOo- or the Kernelsource-package.
Install went without a hitch as soon as I allowed that piece to "get on the bus" with the rest....

Good: Boots and responds noticably faster in all regards than 5.8 stnd on exactly the same machine, even though the stnd-version uses a (supposedly) "lighter" WM.....
How's that?
Did KDE shape up, or what?

Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: The Headacher on June 25, 2007, 02:06:13 am
xfce is not a very light wm like icewm, but a full desktop environment like kde. Also, people just seem to like saying kde is slow. I hardly notice it being slow, except when I need realtime performance for Jack on my old p3 600 MHz. For that purpose both xfce and kde are too heavy and I go back to good old IceWM.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: caitlyn on June 25, 2007, 09:01:39 am
Headacher:  On any distro other than VL SOHO I find KDE to be incredibly sluggish on my Toshiba laptop, an old 1GHz Celeron with 512MB of RAM.  For example:  Xubuntu with Xfce is quite fast while Kubuntu, the same base code with a KDE desktop, is very sluggish.  Ditto Mandriva.  VL SOHO is the only distro where KDE runs quickly on that box.   Plain and simple fact:  KDE keeps a daemon running (dcop server) where other desktop environments do not, and KDE in general consumes more memory than GNOME, which in turn consumes more memory than Xfce.  The fact that KDE is so very responsive on VL SOHO is quite an accomplishment and something the VL developers should be proud of.

Yes, Xfce consumes more memory than IceWM and offers more features.  PekWM or JWM consume far less memory than IceWM and run even faster on a really low end box.  It's always a trade off between performance and features.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: down8ve on June 26, 2007, 03:21:04 pm
I've now replaced my SuSE 10.2 install with vector and am very impressed.  I have a home-built Pentium D 805/nVidia 7300GT system that has tried many variants of Ubuntu, Suse, and PCLos.

Linux Mint was the reigning champ.  The latest release is quite terrific, with the only uneasy part being the nvidia install via Envy. As much as I enjoyed it, I liked the flow and feel of KDE over Gnome.  Perhaps it had to do with the flickering of the screen when entering administrative tasks, or the lack of polish around the edges.

PCLinux 2007 had some tactile issues for me as well, even after trying  five different installs with different discs.  It was nice for the most part, but had some issues when copying large files.  Add to that the WinXP theme and, well, some errors and crashes that openSuSE did not have.

Be on the lookout for Linux Mint's new KDE version, due any time now.  Their last one was not too bad.  It's just I'm enjoying Vector much more.  I still cannot get over the speed!

Thanks,

DSM
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: VecPad on July 19, 2007, 08:39:19 am
This is just an amazing distro. Not everything works as smoothly as in others I have tried, but given a little time to customize my system (probably far less than I've spent tweaking Arch systems) I think it will be perfect. It surprised me that users will settle for a slow KDE distro like Sabayon when they could use one that, on decent hardware, renders everything instantly. Especially with all the codecs and such installed, which is one thing that strangely makes people favor one distro wildly over another, although it's very easy to setup manually.

Great job guys! In the "usable Slackware" battle, I hate to say it, but in many ways you're blowing Zenwalk out of the water. I love that distro too, and have used it for many months, but it has a long way to go before it will be suitable for most everyday users.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Megamieuwsel on July 21, 2007, 05:02:52 am
Hmmm...
Just ran into a problem with this version:

Whenever I play some sort of compressed audio-format, be it MP3(juck!) or FLAC, the sound gets all distorted like the woofer of the HiFi-speakers are busted.
Y'know; the low, "wobbly" kind of distorion. Highly annoying.

At first, I thought either my headphone or soundcard (or both)was/were ready to croak, but in a flash of insight I decided to try it on one of the other installations, I keep on my machine.

Guess what?
No soundproblems on them...
I tried it on Vl 5.8 std, 5.01SOHO and the old 4.3.

What was changed in the sound-handling between them and the current SOHO?
And more important: How can I solve it?
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: ds1 on July 25, 2007, 01:27:24 am
I'm a windows user, trying to check out linux, and I'm willing but unable.  ???

Like a previous poster, my Cd burner (Nero), says 'out of space' when I've tried to burn the image -  I've tried trial versions of other software but with the same result, apparently it's 48Mb overloaded. As I don't have linux installed yet I can't use "kb3".

Any suggestions? Eg, is there stuff I can delete from the iso to free up enough space?

Thanks
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: roseway on July 25, 2007, 05:02:00 am
It sounds as though you're using 650 MB CD blanks. You need 700 MB ones.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: lighans on August 27, 2007, 11:52:19 am
I have been away for a while. I installed Pardus on my laptop. Not bad at all, but the community needs some growing. When trying to install my printer  I installed VL 5.8 SOHO because I felt more comfortable sorting it out with VL (and pardus is too heavy for an old PIII 500. And now I have to push away Pardus from the laptop  ;)

The desktop them, isn't quite .... my style. But changing is easy.
Pidgin in combination with gmail is great. Good choice.

I only wondered why 5 webbrowsers, 2 mailprograms, 3 pictureviewers, and so on? choice matters ??? On the other hand: great to see VLC standard installed.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: lagagnon on August 27, 2007, 03:42:34 pm
The desktop them, isn't quite .... my style. But changing is easy.
I wish more people realized that!  ;)
Quote
I only wondered why 5 webbrowsers, 2 mailprograms, 3 pictureviewers, and so on? choice matters ??? On the other hand: great to see VLC standard installed.
I think you just answered your own question. Its because if you read through the development or bug threads you will see folks requesting this app over that app and we try to keep everyone happy. That's why VLC was included along with mplayer, xine, amarok, NoAtun, Kaboodle etc, etc, etc....personally I would prefer to see one good app for each service, rather than the plethora of redundant applications that we currently provide - and let those who want other things download and install them with gslapt. Just my humble opinion of course....
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: The Headacher on August 27, 2007, 04:48:41 pm
Quote from: lighans
The desktop them, isn't quite .... my style. But changing is easy.
Same here.

Quote
I only wondered why 5 webbrowsers, 2 mailprograms, 3 pictureviewers, and so on? choice matters
The webbrowsers is a little overkill, but then again everybody has strong feelings about what webbrowser should be default since we linux users do a lot of browsing ;). One question would be if including the Dillo makes sense since SOHO is absolutely not lightweight. I usually just remove seamonkey and Opera as I have no use for it. Konqueror is a fine filemanager IMO, but I don't use it for browsing either.

The image viewers are all part of the kdegraphics package. I can't answer why you'd want 3 of those though, I always thought some of the kde* packages are a little too bloated. kdemultimedia for instance has 3 (!) media players in it. I never use any of those either. IMO kde could be a lot better without all this overkill. But then again kde is a lot easier to install and upgrade than gnome. kde's bloat is part of the deal.

Quote
On the other hand: great to see VLC standard installed.
Too bad the VLC on SOHO doesn't work properly.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: lighans on August 31, 2007, 07:06:48 am
The desktop them, isn't quite .... my style. But changing is easy.
I wish more people realized that!  ;)
Quote
I only wondered why 5 webbrowsers, 2 mailprograms, 3 pictureviewers, and so on? choice matters ??? On the other hand: great to see VLC standard installed.
I think you just answered your own question. Its because if you read through the development or bug threads you will see folks requesting this app over that app and we try to keep everyone happy. That's why VLC was included along with mplayer, xine, amarok, NoAtun, Kaboodle etc, etc, etc....personally I would prefer to see one good app for each service, rather than the plethora of redundant applications that we currently provide - and let those who want other things download and install them with gslapt. Just my humble opinion of course....
I feel the ambivalence (-; And adding it to the optional programs doesn't make the installation more smoother. I understand it's a chicken-egg question.
Maybe there could be a decision to make SOHO stripped and add an "bloat"-package to the installation, which adds the rest. (well it was ment as a joke, but it feels like a solution for me  ;) )

The image viewers are all part of the kdegraphics package. I can't answer why you'd want 3 of those though, I always thought some of the kde* packages are a little too bloated. kdemultimedia for instance has 3 (!) media players in it. I never use any of those either. IMO kde could be a lot better without all this overkill. But then again kde is a lot easier to install and upgrade than gnome. kde's bloat is part of the deal.
I didn't realize KDE is doing that to itself!
I'm trying dophin instead of konquerer.
Followed  your advice and started removing things (and adding Ktorrent)
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: retired1af on August 31, 2007, 07:19:55 am
Honestly? I like SOHO the way it is with all the choices. I can always remove the stuff I never use or need. As for the comments about "bloat" or "too much repetition", there's always Standard and you can build it exactly the way you want it from there.
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: Techunas on December 09, 2007, 06:59:49 am
This very good, I usandola smoothly, only that the amount of available repositories is minimal ... not everything that shines is gold

Salu2
Title: Re: VectorLinux-5.8 SOHO FINAL RELEASED!!!
Post by: lagagnon on December 09, 2007, 07:44:33 am
This very good, I usandola smoothly, only that the amount of available repositories is minimal

Hve you enabled the "extras" repository in glsapt?