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Title: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: vector on November 08, 2007, 12:14:06 am
Please post bugs, thoughts, improvements and anything else here concerning the 5.9-rc1 release. The release announcement said it all we are close to final so now is the time to speak up and also to volunteer if you see something that can be fixed and you know the answer to save us some work and time.

Thanks,
vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: toothandnail on November 08, 2007, 03:21:53 am
Downloaded and installed on my IBM T40.

Install still stalls on the FLGX driver for the ATI card in the machine - drops me into Mcedit to fix the problem, but it looks as though the driver section of xorg.conf isn't included at all. I'll have to try and see if I can save the file somewhere else so I can examine it at leisure. I usually run the install in framebuffer mode (vga=791), don't know if that could affect this?

Still can't use 'linux2' on boot for install - selecting the UK keymap when booted this way fails every time. I'm left with the US keyboard. Not a problem if I use 'linux' - keymap is then correctly changed to UK.

Overalp on the bootsplash 'terminal' screen is gone, though I did manage to provoke it once. Not sure what I did - I'll see if I can reproduce it.

MC now correctly identifies and reads the contents of .lzma files.

One completely new (and really strange) problem. When I first started the system, I had no network, and was unable to start it. I have two interfaces - an Intel Pro100 wired ethernet port and an Atheros  AR5212 wireless interface. At present, I don't have a wireless access point available, so I'm using the wired interface.

I've always had better results with the e100 driver rather than the eepro100, so I normally edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to blacklist eepro100 and allow the e100 module to load. After I found I didn't have any network connectivilty, I ran lsmod and found that while the Atheros driver was loaded, there was no sign of the e100. I changed my blacklist back to standard to see if the eepro100 driver would load, but it didn't show up either.

I've now got the network running, but in order to get my wired interface up, I've had to add '/sbin/modprobe e100' to /etc/rc.d/rc.modules.

I've never had to do that before. Really strange...

I used a slightly modified version of the ports script to build conky 1.4.8 under the last beta. I saved it and installed it under RC1, but it failed to run. I ended up having to rebuild under RC1. I'm now running 1.4.7 (have to change the script to get 1.4.8 later), which is fine. Not sure why it should need to be built under RC1 though

More later...

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: lagagnon on November 08, 2007, 10:56:07 am
Here are my observations:

1) does anyone else have the problem of the xfce Exit Panel sometimes not popping up when requested, especially after unchecking "Save Session for Future Logins"?? I do!. Also, as I said in Beta2 I think that should be unchecked anyways by default as it causes problems for those who mess up their desktop and then exit.

2) Opera Browser fonts are terrible: this is a known issue in Linux. There is a fix: edit /etc/opera6rc and add "Enable Core X Font=0" to bottom of [User Prefs] stanza.

3) HP Device Manager does nothing here

4) KDM login screen looks much nicer with antialiasing enabled. To do so edit /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc and uncomment the line AntiAliasing=true.

5) Some Installer Screens still a bit incorrect:
   - VL Setup, 2nd screen, space required 1000-2400MB, actually a full install now takes 2910MB.
   - as above for the Root Partition setup screen.
   - Home filesystem "Choose Filesystem" screen: KEEP "Do not format" occurs 3 times. Is this necessary. Also bad English on last line of screen: "yeah 3rd times" should read "yea, 3rd time".
   - HAL or VL_Hot Screen. The text formatting on the explanation text is all wonky.



Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: toothandnail on November 08, 2007, 11:47:19 am
Here are my observations:

1) does anyone else have the problem of the xfce Exit Panel sometimes not popping up when requested, especially after unchecking "Save Session for Future Logins"?? I do!. Also, as I said in Beta2 I think that should be unchecked anyways by default as it causes problems for those who mess up their desktop and then exit.

I've seen this as well. Haven't searched, but I'm pretty sure its an Xfce bug rather than anything else - I see it in Zenwalk as well.

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2) Opera Browser fonts are terrible: this is a known issue in Linux. There is a fix: edit /etc/opera6rc and add "Enable Core X Font=0" to bottom of [User Prefs] stanza.

Thanks. Didn't know that. I'll have to try it. Certainly, fonts in Opera are awful on my system as well.

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3) HP Device Manager does nothing here

Can't comment on that one - haven't tried any printer related stuff in Vector.

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4) KDM login screen looks much nicer with antialiasing enabled. To do so edit /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc and uncomment the line AntiAliasing=true.

Yes it does. Trouble is, its not the fastest thing around anyway, and enabling antialiasing slows it down even more...

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5) Some Installer Screens still a bit incorrect:
   - VL Setup, 2nd screen, space required 1000-2400MB, actually a full install now takes 2910MB.
   - as above for the Root Partition setup screen.
   - Home filesystem "Choose Filesystem" screen: KEEP "Do not format" occurs 3 times. Is this necessary. Also bad English on last line of screen: "yeah 3rd times" should read "yea, 3rd time".
   - HAL or VL_Hot Screen. The text formatting on the explanation text is all wonky.

I'm also getting the 'keep' prompt multiple times when selecting /home. In my case, twice rather than 3 times though...

Can't comment about the other bits - I was in too much of a hurry to get it installed to notice....  ;D

paul
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Lyn on November 08, 2007, 03:18:56 pm
OK the good news, UK keyboard works :-)
The bad news I still have the issue that the system crashes when ever I launch a terminal or a terminal application.  :-(
Thanks for in inclusion of xkill, nice to have a graphical utility, however when seamonkey crashes or freezes, which some flash sites and utube etc tend to, then you are still stuck with being unable to relaunch without logging out and restarting the system.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Lyn on November 08, 2007, 03:41:28 pm
And some good news the issue of the system crashing when launching a terminal or a terminal application is confined to Xfce, and not on the other Window managers.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: rbistolfi on November 08, 2007, 03:57:17 pm
Didn't finish the download yet, but I want to support the Lagagnon's suggestion about having the "Save session..." thing unchecked by default. The first thing people do when something is wrong with the desktop is log-out and login again, and without intention, makes the problem "sticky". 
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: M0E-lnx on November 08, 2007, 04:49:32 pm
i have to say that does make sense. A lot of times people log out and back in hoping their screw up would be fixed. I vote default it to unchecked too
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Joe1962 on November 08, 2007, 06:02:40 pm
It definitely gets my vote too, been saying that since 5.8.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: rbistolfi on November 08, 2007, 06:39:38 pm
I get segmentation faults running mplayer. The Terminal thing is still there, but probably is the xorg thing Vector mentioned. It looks weird, black and white, like a bad tunning tv.
Can I suggest to change the XFCE theme to 'Xfce-Curve' or 'Xfce 4.2'? It looks better and the colors and fonts are better for the usability.
I think the size of the toolbar can be smaller, I changed from 38 to 30, but probably is just personal taste....
The mouse wheel doesn't work here, I will check xorg.conf later, I suspect is just that axis option.
Everything else works very good here, like always.
I will keep testing...
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: uelsk8s on November 08, 2007, 08:30:21 pm
Install still stalls on the FLGX driver for the ATI card in the machine - drops me into Mcedit to fix the problem, but it looks as though the driver section of xorg.conf isn't included at all. I'll have to try and see if I can save the file somewhere else so I can examine it at leisure. I usually run the install in framebuffer mode (vga=791), don't know if that could affect this?
Can you post the output of lspci and lsmod?
also what brand and model of ati card do you have?

Thanks
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: uelsk8s on November 08, 2007, 08:35:44 pm
OK the good news, UK keyboard works :-)
The bad news I still have the issue that the system crashes when ever I launch a terminal or a terminal application.  :-(
Thanks for in inclusion of xkill, nice to have a graphical utility, however when seamonkey crashes or freezes, which some flash sites and utube etc tend to, then you are still stuck with being unable to relaunch without logging out and restarting the system.

what video card do you have there?
can you also post the Driver section of you xorg.conf?

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: vector on November 08, 2007, 08:53:02 pm
The Terminal thing is still there, but probably is the xorg thing Vector mentioned. It looks weird, black and white, like a bad tunning tv.
Would you try the terminal in fluxbox or jwm see if same results........trying to track the terminal bug down.

Thanks vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 08, 2007, 09:16:50 pm
I installed RC1 on my laptop today; will do the Celeron desktop tomorrow. I had to use the sata2 kernel in order to get it to install on the laptop, just as in the betas.

Good news--the HDA audio worked out of the box! That's a MAJOR improvement.

I also managed to get my WPA wireless working, but it took a bit of doing. (I'm writing this in SeaMonkey and am wirelessly connected to the Internet.) There was no ndiswrapper in /lib/modules/2.6.22.10sm/kernel/net/wireless. So I copied the ndiswrapper.ko file that Ueksk8s had posted when I had the same problem in beta 2.3 and followed his directions that worked in beta 2.3. I used the same wpa_supplicant.conf file that I used in beta 2.3. When I tried to configure wifi-radar, wifi-radar locked up and I had to kill the process. Then I read in the Wireless HowTo that I should edit wifi-radar.conf. After I did that, I was able to start wifi-radar, configure it, reconnect, and then my wireless was working.

I think some work may need to be done so that anyone using the 2.6.22.10sm kernel has the necessary modules. Also, there are too many files that need hand editing in order to get wireless working. How would a new user know that the wifi-radar.conf file needs editing?

The proprietary NVIDIA driver worked fine and auto got my 1280x800 resolution right the first time.

I haven't had time to do more testing. Having sound working is a major improvement, and the WPA wireless basically works fine once all the pieces are in place (but is REALLY rough for a first-time user). Yet this is a major advance over the recent times when I couldn't get WPA wireless to work at all.

By the way, I use run level 2 and no frame buffers, so I have no experience with some of the issues others have encountered.

Good job so far!
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: The Headacher on November 09, 2007, 01:09:56 am
I see that all alsa stuff has been moved into a single package. However, a lot of programs already in the repository have dependencies to alsa-lib. If you slapt-get one of those programs you'll get an older (1.0.14a) alsa-lib that will overwrite some of the files that came in the 1.0.15 package. I think the best course of action would be to rebuild alsa so it's all separate packages again. It's that or rebuild every package that has alsa-lib as a dependency. 
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Lyn on November 09, 2007, 01:57:05 am
OK the good news, UK keyboard works :-)
The bad news I still have the issue that the system crashes when ever I launch a terminal or a terminal application.  :-(
Thanks for in inclusion of xkill, nice to have a graphical utility, however when seamonkey crashes or freezes, which some flash sites and utube etc tend to, then you are still stuck with being unable to relaunch without logging out and restarting the system.

what video card do you have there?
can you also post the Driver section of you xorg.conf?

Video is an i810 onboard graphics card with no dedicated memory, dynamically shared.

here is the section.

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
###
[arg]: arg optional
#Option     "NoAccel"               # [<bool>]
#Option     "SWcursor"              # [<bool>]
#Option     "ColorKey"              #
#Option     "CacheLines"            #
#Option     "Dac6Bit"               #
[<bool>]
#Option     "DRI"                   # [<bool>]
#Option     "NoDDC"                 # [<bool>]
#Option     "ShowCache"             # [<bool>]
#Option     "XvMCSurfaces"          #
#Option     "PageFlip"              #
[<bool>]
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver      "i810"
VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
BoardName   "82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC)"
BusID       "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Lyn on November 09, 2007, 01:58:57 am
Also the master mono sound slider works now :-) so with the internal speaker I can control sound output on this Compaq deskpro EN machine.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: rbistolfi on November 09, 2007, 05:08:42 am
The Terminal thing is still there, but probably is the xorg thing Vector mentioned. It looks weird, black and white, like a bad tunning tv.
Would you try the terminal in fluxbox or jwm see if same results........trying to track the terminal bug down.

Thanks vec

The problem is there at JWM and the others. I checked all the logs including xorg.log, everything is normal. I get segmentation faults starting fluxbox, like with mplayer. Probably a bad install? I will try to reinstall the packages with slapt-get, but I tried literally all the other X apps and they work but Scribus.
A few things I found, running the root terminal through the menu gives the regular user terminal. Scribus exits with error code  11 after the bootsplash. Log out through the JWM menu reboots the machine.
I will see if I can track the origin of those problems.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: toothandnail on November 09, 2007, 05:21:10 am
Install still stalls on the FLGX driver for the ATI card in the machine - drops me into Mcedit to fix the problem, but it looks as though the driver section of xorg.conf isn't included at all. I'll have to try and see if I can save the file somewhere else so I can examine it at leisure. I usually run the install in framebuffer mode (vga=791), don't know if that could affect this?
Can you post the output of lspci and lsmod?

Sure. Lsmod:

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Module                  Size  Used by
radeon                122912  2
drm                    74388  3 radeon
cpufreq_ondemand        7692  1
acpi_cpufreq            7880  1
freq_table              4768  2 cpufreq_ondemand,acpi_cpufreq
thinkpad_acpi          40364  0
e100                   33292  0
mii                     5504  1 e100
snd_seq_dummy           3716  0
snd_seq_oss            30080  0
snd_seq_midi_event      7040  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                47952  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          7436  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            40096  0
snd_mixer_oss          15104  1 snd_pcm_oss
hpfs                   70916  2
fuse                   39828  3
wlan_scan_sta          13056  0
ath_rate_sample        13184  1
ath_pci                89504  0
snd_intel8x0           29596  2
wlan                  192964  4 wlan_scan_sta,ath_rate_sample,ath_pci
snd_ac97_codec         97060  1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus                2944  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                69892  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer              19844  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    44516  13 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
serio_raw               6276  0
ath_hal               190672  3 ath_rate_sample,ath_pci
soundcore               7008  1 snd
snd_page_alloc          8712  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
i2c_i801                8592  0
intel_agp              22164  1
iTCO_wdt                9640  0
agpgart                28108  2 drm,intel_agp
i2c_core               20992  1 i2c_i801
shpchp                 30228  0
pci_hotplug            28616  1 shpchp
evdev                   8704  4

And lspci:

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00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to I/O Controller (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to AGP Controller (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 81)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
02:00.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1520 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 01)
02:00.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1520 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 01)
02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 VE (MOB) Ethernet Controller (rev 81)

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also what brand and model of ati card do you have?

Its an Ati Radeon Mobility M7, Radeon Mobility 7500. IBM brand, I guess...

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: uelsk8s on November 09, 2007, 06:40:57 am
toothandnail,
Now that I know why it fails for you I will work out a way to fix it.
The fglrx driver dropped support for older cards like yours.

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: toothandnail on November 09, 2007, 10:09:54 am
toothandnail,
Now that I know why it fails for you I will work out a way to fix it.
The fglrx driver dropped support for older cards like yours.

Ah. Good to know you've found the problem. As to fixing it, personally I'm not too concerned. Maybe better detection so that the choice is not offered would be the way to go.

 ;D I've always been happy enough with the open source drivers, only tried the flgx stuff for testing, since the choice was offered...

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 09, 2007, 11:41:21 am
I've just installed RC1 on my Celeron desktop, which is a very Linux-friendly computer. So far I haven't found any problems. The computer has a Radeon 9200 with 128 megs. I tried to use the proprietary driver offered through VASM, but it failed to install properly. No big problem. I'm currently using the open-source radeon driver.

I found a few more problems on my laptop, where I have to use the 2.6.22.10sm kernel. I have only a couple of icons (Screensaver and VASM) in the XFce Settings Manager screen. There is a text label for each item and they work when I click on them, but the icons in the main Settings Manager screen are missing. Some are also missing from the XFce desktop menu (the one you get when you right-click on the desktop or click on the far-right icon in the Panel).

I think there were one or two other oddities I noticed, but I don't have that computer turned on right now, so will have to wait until tonight.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: M0E-lnx on November 09, 2007, 11:46:33 am

I have only a couple of icons (Screensaver and VASM) in the XFce Settings Manager screen. There is a text label for each item and they work when I click on them, but the icons in the main Settings Manager screen are missing. Some are also missing from the XFce desktop menu (the one you get when you right-click on the desktop or click on the far-right icon in the Panel).

--GrannyGeek

I think this is due to a bad icon theme... I've seen this before. This happened to me when I installed a test package that contained some stuff for the VASM2 project... The package installed some icons, but it also screwed up my default theme... Changing the icon theme did it for me thoug. But then again, I'm not running RC1 ... still running the old Pseudo-0.2
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 09, 2007, 11:54:08 am
I think this is due to a bad icon theme... I've seen this before. This happened to me when I installed a test package that contained some stuff for the VASM2 project... The package installed some icons, but it also screwed up my default theme... Changing the icon theme did it for me thoug. But then again, I'm not running RC1 ... still running the old Pseudo-0.2

The first thing I tried for fixing it was changing to a different icon theme. It didn't help, but maybe I should try more themes. They're all the ones that came with VL5.9 RC1. I was using the default 5.9 theme when I noticed the icons were missing. Default desktop icons were okay.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 09, 2007, 06:39:15 pm
The computer gods have smiled on me! When I turned on the laptop and booted 5.9 rc1 today, the icons were all there in the XFce Settings Manager and the XFce Desktop menu. Orage stayed in the system tray after I hit the Close button at the upper right as I wanted it to; yesterday it didn't. At the moment, I can't think of any bugs I've noticed.

Wireless continues to work flawlessly and I set up my nfs network with the 5.9 rc1 desktop and am moving files back and forth.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Pita on November 09, 2007, 11:32:17 pm
Just installed and booted w/o problem.

This time I had only to rmmod tulip and modprobe dmfe to get the Internet connection. Great

Music CD can only be played with xine. Is that normal? At home in VL5.8 I just give command from terminal such as cdplay. I understand that this program is not included in VL5.9

On xfce4-panel no icons for quit and speaker.

Clicking on Audio CD icon I get error: unable to mount Audio CD. After that the CD icon follow the mouse and will land where ever the mouse is clicked again.

frozen-bubble can not be launched since it lacks sound files it claims.

Needless to mention that megamario and cohorts can only be launched outside X with my savage graphic card.

Have not checked printing. Expect no problems after copying printers.conf over from VL5.8.

That pouse pointer is mighty big for my taste.

Ah yes, boot messages are 3 lines below terminal frame, then suddenly jump in correctly only to get out again at the end of booting. However, after login all sits in the frame, like mc.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: ludocools on November 09, 2007, 11:58:09 pm
Installed VL5.9RC1 on a dedicated pc (ASUSK8V-MX Sempron2600+ build in VideoVIA-VGA mem 512MBRAM HD SATA), only used to test all kinds of distro's. Installation makes me think of ms-DOS again, no offense. It is a quick and logical install, and starting up is just as speedy: NICE!

GRUB messes up with a file, LinuxMint4.0 cannot be started again: a pitty, no loss on a test pc.

VLC is missing, and I think that is a pity, I love to listen to http://somafm.com/groovesalad24.pls, VLC is the only player that gives me full sound with a higly compressed MP3 file.

Other partitions, whether EXT or NTFS, are where?

The worse is the fact that, when installing install-crossover-standard-6.2.0.sh, and more precise when a WINE Bottle is being tried to being installed, the proces completely freezes my system. That means I cannot use this distro on my family members pc's (they feel addicted to Word and Powerpoint and Excel). They will continue to work with LinuxMint4.0 XFCE, untill this bug (?) is solved.


Addition

I'm trying to do the same thing on my older NEC/PackardBell Easynote (Athlon2000+ build in VideoVIA-VGA mem 770MBRAM HD PATA) and it installs fluently as it should! As far as VL is concerned, the better! Would it have to do with some video/VGA-problem or setting?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: The Headacher on November 10, 2007, 03:02:50 am
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Other partitions, whether EXT or NTFS, are where?
Add them with "vasm" -> SUPER (supply root password) ->  FILESYSTEM -> MOUNT -> ADD
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: ludocools on November 10, 2007, 03:10:51 am
Thanks for VASM, that taught me something useful.

n the logs I found the next messages:

libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x47
wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x00000348 at address
0x7e679976 (thread 0013), starting debugger...
Can't attach process 0012: error 5

libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x47
wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x00000348 at address
0x7dfd3976 (thread 001a), starting debugger...
Can't attach process 0019: error 5

It must be something with CrossOver?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Lyn on November 10, 2007, 05:30:12 am
And only just noticed, no CD Rom found, when I check the devices applet there is no cd rom shown.  This is with Xfce.

Just to make sure this was a fault I did a fresh install.  While last time I ignored the scsi emulation step this time I used it.  Oh and this time I chose HAL rather than vl hot.

fstab  below

# The Linux partitions
/dev/hda1 / reiserfs  noatime  0  1
/dev/hda3 /home reiserfs noatime  0 2

# Shared Windows/Linux partition
#/dev/hda1   /mnt/dos  msdos  umask=0   0  0
#/dev/hda1   /mnt/win  vfat   fmask=111,dmask=0,quiet,shortname=mixed,user  0  0
#/dev/hda1   /mnt/win  ntfs   umask=0   0  0

# Floppy disks
# The 'noauto' option indicates that the file system should not be mounted
# with 'mount -a' 'user' indicates that normal users are allowed to mount
# the file system.
/dev/fd0   /mnt/floppy   auto   defaults,noauto,user   0 0
#/dev/fd1  /mnt/floppy   auto   defaults,noauto,user   0 0

# If you have a ls-120 floppy drive, it could be on /dev/hda b c d etc.
#/dev/hdd   /mnt/ls120   auto   defaults,noauto,user   0 0

# CDROM, CDWRITER, DVD

# NFS file systems:
#linux01.gwdg.de:/suse/6.3/i386.de  /mnt/nfs  nfs  defaults  0 0

# proc file system:
proc   /proc   proc   defaults   0 0

# Unix98 devpts filesystem:
none  /dev/pts  devpts  gid=5,mode=666  0 0

# Shared memory filesystem:
tmpfs   /dev/shm    tmpfs defaults 0  0

# Basic USB filesystem
sysfs  /sys  sysfs  defaults  0 0

# example of a VFAT USB pendrive
#/dev/sda1  /mnt/pendrive vfat   fmask=111,dmask=0,noauto,user,quiet,shortname=mixed 0 0


# Swap partitions
# The 'sw' option means auto activating with 'swapon -a'.
/dev/hda2   none   swap   sw   0  0
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Lyn on November 10, 2007, 05:36:30 am
Stylistically if you have more than one user other than yourself and root you have to scroll to get to it, the space for users on the log on screen should be bigger.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: lagagnon on November 10, 2007, 07:43:38 am
Clicking on Audio CD icon I get error: unable to mount Audio CD.
One cannot mount an audio CD as they do not contain a filesystem. The only thing you can do with an audio CD is play it with appropriate software or rip it with (eg) RipperX.
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After that the CD icon follow the mouse and will land where ever the mouse is clicked again.
I have noticed that problem also - in a different situation. This effect does appear to be an X or xfce bug.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: hpearlman on November 10, 2007, 09:26:27 am
Hate the opera fonts.  Love the fact that everything works - including sound, streaming youtube, and internet connection (the previous releases did not automatically connect to the internet.

I do believe it is about ready (please fix the opera fonts if you can,  Thanks).
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: lagagnon on November 10, 2007, 11:04:59 am
Hate the opera fonts
A generic fix for this can be found in my previous post above. Or you can add that line to your ~/.opera/opera6rc file.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: MikeCindi on November 10, 2007, 02:03:26 pm
Overall rc1 performs as expected on my laptop. Other than a few things mentioned by others I've noticed that gslapt has trouble installing files when there are more than 4 or 5 in the queue. Still haven't gotten TuxOnIce to work but I will probably start from scratch and rebuild the kernel this weekend.

I applaud and really appreciate the VL developers (all three of them) for producing such a great distro and the VL community for making this the friendliest distro I've experienced or looked at.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Pita on November 10, 2007, 05:07:21 pm
Clicking on Audio CD icon I get error: unable to mount Audio CD.
One cannot mount an audio CD as they do not contain a filesystem. The only thing you can do with an audio CD is play it with appropriate software or rip it with (eg) RipperX.
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I am aware of that, however, I thought clicking on the CD icon will start the audio CD to play.
That audacious player will not play an audio CD unlike xmms in VL5.8 where after the CD has been inserted clicking on play on xmms will start the CD playing.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Pita on November 10, 2007, 05:49:18 pm
~:$ frozen-bubble

Can't locate SDL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i486-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i486-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at /usr/bin/frozen-bubble line 56.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/frozen-bubble line 56.

I uninstalled, reinstalled, same, same.

How to resolve?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Masta on November 10, 2007, 07:03:37 pm
Stylistically if you have more than one user other than yourself and root you have to scroll to get to it, the space for users on the log on screen should be bigger.

I agree and took note to adjust it. The only thing that makes me wonder is, just how many should be viewable at once, before the scrolling takes place... how about 4, if they'll fit above the buttons?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: MikeCindi on November 10, 2007, 07:40:00 pm
The only thing that makes me wonder is, just how many should be viewable at once, before the scrolling takes place... how about 4, if they'll fit above the buttons?

Won't this be dependant on the screen resolution of each particular PC? Anyway 4 or 5 would be nice although I use 6 on the family desktop.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Dweeberkitty on November 10, 2007, 10:17:38 pm
I agree and took note to adjust it. The only thing that makes me wonder is, just how many should be viewable at once, before the scrolling takes place... how about 4, if they'll fit above the buttons?

I hate to say it. But I think that Microsoft actually did something right in this respect. Take a look at the WinXP login screen. There is plenty of room for quite a few users without the need to scroll. If possible, it should be designed to make it so that almost no one has to scroll except for the few odd people that have a ton of users.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: martinwprior on November 11, 2007, 05:06:02 am
I had 5.8 with no probs, then put 5.9 Beta 1 and 2 with no problems.

I installed 5.9 Release 1. Normally no problems but when I listen to the BBC via Opera and Real Player. I get network hang-up.

I tried to bring up wifiradar to look the network, but when asked for root password. The input screen will not accept my input (ie input is not echoed to the screen).

I re-start the system, but is hangs and does not complete shut down.

Sorry cannot be more specific, but these probs did not happen with the previous releases.

regards,

Maretin Prior
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: lagagnon on November 11, 2007, 08:29:49 am
... but when I listen to the BBC via Opera and Real Player. I get network hang-up.
Opera has always had a problem with streaming multimedia, especially using MPlayer. I posted a solution to this forum about 6 months ago:
http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=2517.0 . The other option is to visit the Opera forums as there are some solutions posted there.
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I re-start the system, but is hangs and does not complete shut down.
Does that happen every time or only when you use wifi-radar? Do you mean the machine never turns itself off after the "System will Shutdown" message?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: JohnB316 on November 11, 2007, 09:35:57 am
---snip---
Quote
2) Opera Browser fonts are terrible: this is a known issue in Linux. There is a fix: edit /etc/opera6rc and add "Enable Core X Font=0" to bottom of [User Prefs] stanza.

Thanks. Didn't know that. I'll have to try it. Certainly, fonts in Opera are awful on my system as well.

Since VL repackages the dynamic Qt version of Opera, you should be able to tweak font-related stuff by running qtconfig. At least I was able to do so. Now if anybody uses a statically-linked verion of Opera, then maybe the "Enable Core X-Font" fix would work there.

---snip---

FWIW,
John
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Masta on November 11, 2007, 08:14:32 pm
The only thing that makes me wonder is, just how many should be viewable at once, before the scrolling takes place... how about 4, if they'll fit above the buttons?

Won't this be dependant on the screen resolution of each particular PC? Anyway 4 or 5 would be nice although I use 6 on the family desktop.

It "should" scale according to resolution, but I think we can safely go with 4 on the current theme.

Quote
I hate to say it. But I think that Microsoft actually did something right in this respect. Take a look at the WinXP login screen. There is plenty of room for quite a few users without the need to scroll. If possible, it should be designed to make it so that almost no one has to scroll except for the few odd people that have a ton of users.

I think there's a plan to have other alternative themes in the repository, at some point. That's the plan anyway  :) ,
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: toothandnail on November 12, 2007, 04:28:14 am
There is still a problem with the mount applet in VASM. When I attempt to use it to create a mount for /dev/hda1, the first stage correctly identifies the partition as HPFS/NTFS (its NTFS). However, after selecting the mount point, VASM identifies the partition as XFS, and will make the fstab entry on that basis. Which doesn't work very well, naturally...

I also notice that it gives me the option of mounting /dev/had3, which is the extended partition, which is, after all, only a container for logical partitions.

While its not really a bug, it would be useful if there were two options on the VASM sub-menus - one to go back to the previous menu, and one to exit VASM. It can be annoying having to step back through several levels of menu to exit.

paul.

Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: toothandnail on November 12, 2007, 04:47:58 am
I'm still having massive problems with Gslapt. Anytime I try to upgrade or install more than one item, it locks up and has to be killed.

It seems to work ok if I search for an individual file and install it, but multiples and doing anything like 'Mark all upgrades' followed by 'execute' will fail every time.

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: martinwprior on November 12, 2007, 03:31:00 pm
Re: response from lagagnon

I have installed the new kernel and am pleased to say my previous problem has disappeared.

I use Opera with Realplayer with various flavours of Linux and have no real problem. With RealPlayer I have more control over the stream, for example pause the stream. Mplayer will not recommence after a pause. I primarily listen to BBC 7. I am an aging expat now living in Malaysia.

Regards,

Martin Prior
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: nubcnubdo on November 12, 2007, 08:47:50 pm
I had a problem with the video driver installation. I purposefully accepted defaults all the way through the install, which went well. That is, until the video card was configured with Nvidia Legacy drivers, which failed. What I would suggest here is that upon failing to install correct drivers, the program cycle back through the video card config, in which case I would have selected nv drivers and been done with it. Now I have a troublesome resolution on desktop, and I must presumably reconfigure with VASM. Easy enough for an experienced user to fix, but probably a show-stopper for a noob. The install program's advice to check out the nvidia site for drivers strikes me as a mild variation of RTFM. At no point in the installation process should VectorLinux throw up it's hands and say, go look for it yourself. VL should be with the user, for better or worse, all the way. For another thing, I probably won't write down the URLs while I'm installing VL. It might be better to automatically use a generic video driver if the vid configuration fails, something like safe mode (see Ubuntu 7.10), which being of an inferior quality would obviously signify that the installation of video drivers failed. I read all that mess about my card not being covered by Nvidia Legacy drivers, but what's this, I get to Desktop, not a TUI prompt. So I have a problem with not knowing exactly where I stand once I get to Desktop. What am I looking at now, if Nvidia Legacy drivers failed? Has anyone done a count of which video driver is more commonly used for a VL install? Maybe the default selection should be nv, not Nvidia Legacy.

When I call Mozilla Firefox from the panel icon, I get an error message: "Failed to execute default Web Browser - Input/output error." However, FF comes up normally.

My preferred desktop wallpaper Big_Blue_Vec -1 still has version number "5.8" prominently displayed.

Subjective observation: The resolution 1024x768 looks more like 1280x1024. I feel like the fonts are too small. I will have to look at another install of VL and verify this. I hope I'm wrong. Changed hdd: I'm looking at the same nominal resolution (1024x768) on this computer using LinuxMint Xfce CE, and the fonts are decidedly larger and more legible. Houston, we got a problem.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 12, 2007, 10:44:32 pm
I installed 5.9 rc1 on a Toshiba Celeron Mobile 2GHz with 512 megs of RAM. Everything has gone well so far, except I noticed there was no entry for the CDROM drive in /etc/fstab. I think I remember someone else mentioning the same problem. The rest has been okay; sound works out of the box, correct Intel video identified, wired network fine. I set up an nfs network with my other Linux computers and it took some troubleshooting; the "trouble" was operator error (I had a wrong entry in /etc/hosts).

I thought this computer was in its death throes because it couldn't get past POST. In a last-ditch attempt to revive it before I relegated it to recycling, I removed a RAM stick I had added and replaced it with the original RAM stick in it when I got it. What do you know--IT'S ALIVE!! I lost 256 megs in the process, but the computer is working well. The bad stick was Kingston's top-drawer RAM and it has a lifetime warranty, so I expect they'll replace it.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: uelsk8s on November 12, 2007, 10:49:02 pm
nubcnubdo,
what video card do you have?
do you know why the nvidia driver install failed?

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: nubcnubdo on November 13, 2007, 12:18:18 am
uelsk8s,
I regret that I cannot provide card identity with certainty until tomorrow. It is either RIVA, TNT2, or VANTA. Let me clarify my previous post that the questionable resolution was experienced using the nv driver, configured with VASM from TUI. The original, failed Nvidia Legacy driver would not allow changing the resolution at all. On the other hand, with the nv driver selected, I changed the resolution back and forth between 1024x768 and 800x600, and this is how I got the distinct impression that 1024x768 was too small, more like 1280x[something]. I will follow up tomorrow.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Witek Mozga on November 13, 2007, 04:33:57 am
Instalation:
I installed on my Asus A9RP laptop and tried to compile fglrx ATi driver during installation. This caused screen to become black with vertical some lines on it. I rebooted and tried once again (I kept fglrx driver) only to obtain the same situation: black screen with vertical lines. I rebooted once again and got into the system, however the installation process was not complete (pass for root was unset and no new user was added). I`m testing as root then as I`m too lazy to add a new user  ;)

Testing:
Strangely, fglrx driver seems to be working right in spite of what I wrote above.
I wanted to check if bugs I reported before for Beta were fixed. Most important thing was zd1211rw wireless driver. It worked with latest beta when firmware was upgraded. Unfortunately it won`t work for RC1  :-[ when run from root account. I noticed there is somethings wrong with vasm and wireless network. I tried to change connection settings but vasm failed to update the config files. when I changed the permission of files in /etc/wireless/ from 600 to 777 vasm was finally able to store settings but something is evidently wrong here. Anyway wifi is not working when run from superuser account. Don`t know why. When I finally added a new user and tested wifi from his account - it worked!

Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Witek Mozga on November 13, 2007, 06:36:18 am
Additional sugestions:

1. I am accustomed that F10 key closes midnight commander. Unfortunately here it activates a menu, which is a bit frustrating. This is my opinion however.

2. I suggested that zip, tar.gz and other archieves should be opened with xarchiever when clicked on them. If there is only one gui application for such files it should be connected to them by default in my opinion. If there were many, the choice might be left to the user.

Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: toothandnail on November 13, 2007, 07:36:51 am
Additional sugestions:

1. I am accustomed that F10 key closes midnight commander. Unfortunately here it activates a menu, which is a bit frustrating. This is my opinion however.

In terminal, if you turn off the menubar, F10 will go back to doing what you expect. Or, don't use terminal for MC. I create a program object for MC, but run it in Aterm, which has much lower requirements and is all I need for something like Aterm.  I also turn of the menu bar in the Xfce terminal anyway - I like the maximum working area in a terminal and never could see the need for a menu bar in one.

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: toothandnail on November 13, 2007, 08:36:58 am
Not directly RC1, but I've hit a problem with one of the applications - Adobe Reader 8. When started it comes up with the following error popup:

Code: [Select]
Unable to find the HTML rendering library
(libgtkemberdmoz). Please specify the folder location in
Edit->Preferences->Internet

Its help also fails with the same error.

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: uelsk8s on November 13, 2007, 08:46:10 am
Not directly RC1, but I've hit a problem with one of the applications - Adobe Reader 8. When started it comes up with the following error popup:

Code: [Select]
Unable to find the HTML rendering library
(libgtkemberdmoz). Please specify the folder location in
Edit->Preferences->Internet

Its help also fails with the same error.

paul.
I thought we had that fixed.
It looks for the lib in /opt/seamonkey
works here anyway.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: lagagnon on November 13, 2007, 08:52:38 am
ToothandNail: have you done any mark all upgrades, execute with gslapt on RC1? Because if you have, then your bug reports may no longer valid. Do you have a clean RC1 on that machine? I have no problems with Acrobat here.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: lagagnon on November 13, 2007, 08:58:37 am
... The bad stick was Kingston's top-drawer RAM and it has a lifetime warranty, so I expect they'll replace it.
Ground your fingers to a suitable ground point to discharge any static from your body. Then take a pink eraser and rub the contacts on both sides of the stick then clean the contacts off with rubbing alcohol. Press the memory chips firmly onto the circuit board with your fingers (this sometimes solves chip creap problems). Reseat the RAM module carefiully and make sure both sides of the module housing on the motherboard click firmly home and that the side brackets are fully vertical.

This works for me in about 60% of RAM module problems.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: lagagnon on November 13, 2007, 09:00:20 am
...That is, until the video card was configured with Nvidia Legacy drivers, which failed.
When you installed VL did you make sure the box for Kernel sources was checked and installed? If not, driver installation will definetely fail.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Joe1962 on November 13, 2007, 09:55:41 am
Not directly RC1, but I've hit a problem with one of the applications - Adobe Reader 8. When started it comes up with the following error popup:

Code: [Select]
Unable to find the HTML rendering library
(libgtkemberdmoz). Please specify the folder location in
Edit->Preferences->Internet

Its help also fails with the same error.

paul.
I thought we had that fixed.
It looks for the lib in /opt/seamonkey
works here anyway.

I can confirm the problem, but it only happens for root, it works ok for normal users. After the error popup, up comes an empty "Beyond Adobe Reader" window. "Browser Executable" and "libgtkembedmoz Folder" path settings are both empty in Preferences. We might consider setting a default browser in "Browser Executable" though, it's empty for normal users too.

BTW, why Adobe Reader? It's bloated and takes ages to load (version 5.x was probably the last "light" version), NTM that I'm not sure it is redistributable. Maybe it can be installable from the repo instead?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: toothandnail on November 13, 2007, 10:48:12 am
ToothandNail: have you done any mark all upgrades, execute with gslapt on RC1? Because if you have, then your bug reports may no longer valid. Do you have a clean RC1 on that machine? I have no problems with Acrobat here.

No, though I have attempted to do so since making that report. Still having problems with Gslapt failing if more than one install/upgrade is selected.

But I did upgrade Seamonkey, which may explain it.

I've now got round the problem using browse and pointing it at /opt/seamonkey/lib/Seamonkey-1.1.6.

I'll try another clean install of RC1 and see if I can work out when the problem occurs.

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Joe1962 on November 13, 2007, 11:00:06 am
But I did upgrade Seamonkey, which may explain it.
RC1 comes with 1.1.6.

I've now got round the problem using browse and pointing it at /opt/seamonkey/lib/Seamonkey-1.1.6.
So if we are going to use the friggin' Adobe Reader ( ::) ), we really should set up a generic /opt/seamonkey/lib/Seamonkey symlink so an upgrade doesn't break it. Actually, it will probably be useful for other apps as well.

Note to incognu: your packages will need to delete and recreate the symlink in install.sh... ;)



EDIT: WHOA! Just had a look and the monster takes 154 MB installed... >:( :o
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: easuter on November 13, 2007, 11:03:34 am
Whats so great about adobe's readers anyway? Never had any complaints about Xpdf   ::)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: kidd on November 13, 2007, 11:28:36 am
Whats so great about adobe's readers anyway? Never had any complaints about Xpdf   ::)


If you want a plain reader, xpdf does all you want.  And it's configurable through the one and  true configuration center:  ~/.Xdefaults   :D
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: toothandnail on November 13, 2007, 01:06:26 pm
But I did upgrade Seamonkey, which may explain it.
RC1 comes with 1.1.6.

The testing repository has an updated build, which is what I installed while testing Gslapt.

I've now got round the problem using browse and pointing it at /opt/seamonkey/lib/Seamonkey-1.1.6.

Quote
So if we are going to use the friggin' Adobe Reader ( ::) ), we really should set up a generic /opt/seamonkey/lib/Seamonkey symlink so an upgrade doesn't break it. Actually, it will probably be useful for other apps as well.

Note to incognu: your packages will need to delete and recreate the symlink in install.sh... ;)



EDIT: WHOA! Just had a look and the monster takes 154 MB installed... >:( :o

Ouch. I knew it was big, but hadn't looked all that closely. Personally, I would rather see something like a recent build of Evince - works nicely, is a quite reasonable size and handles more than just PDF files..

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Joe1962 on November 13, 2007, 01:12:12 pm
Ouch. I knew it was big, but hadn't looked all that closely. Personally, I would rather see something like a recent build of Evince - works nicely, is a quite reasonable size and handles more than just PDF files..
It might be a reasonable size but I get the feeling it would depend on a big chunk of gnome. Then again, I might be wrong.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: easuter on November 13, 2007, 01:17:47 pm
Quote from: Joe1962
It might be a reasonable size but I get the feeling it would depend on a big chunk of gnome. Then again, I might be wrong.

Yes indeed, evince does require lots of gnome's fuzzy cuddly but all-over-the-place packages. Here is a list from the VL 5.8 evince build of GNOME 2.18:

libgnomeui >= 2.18.1,libbonoboui >= 2.18.0,gnome-keyring >= 0.8,libgnomecanvas >= 2.14.0,libgnome >= 2.18.0,gnome-vfs >= 2.18.0.1,dbus-glib >= 0.72,openssl >= 0.9.8d,avahi >= 0.6.16,esound >= 0.2.36,alsa-lib >= 1.0.11,audiofile >= 0.2.6,popt >= 1.7,libart_lgpl >= 2.3.17,libbonobo >= 2.18.0,ORBit2 >= 2.14.7,GConf >= 2.18.0.1,glib2 >= 2.12.10,libglade >= 2.6.0,gtk+2 >= 2.10.11,libxml2 >= 2.6.27,libiconv >= 1.11,atk >= 1.18.0,pango >= 1.16.1,cairo >= 1.4.0,fontconfig >= 2.2.3,freetype >= 2.1.9,expat >= 1.95.8,glitz >= 0.5.6,libpng >= 1.2.16,x11 >= 6.9.0,libtiff >= 3.8.2,libjpeg >= 6b,zlib >= 1.2.3,libgnomeprintui >= 2.12.1,libgnomeprint >= 2.12.1,nautilus >= 2.18.0.1
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Joe1962 on November 13, 2007, 01:20:40 pm
Yeah, figured. I think I had a look at it a long time ago and gave up.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: M0E-lnx on November 13, 2007, 01:28:45 pm
yes indeed... installing all of those packages will almost give you a usable gnome desktop
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 13, 2007, 02:17:55 pm
1. I am accustomed that F10 key closes midnight commander. Unfortunately here it activates a menu, which is a bit frustrating. This is my opinion however.

If you are using Terminal, the default in XFce, go to the menu, click on Edit, Preferences, click on Shortcuts, click on Disable menu shortcut key so a checkmark appears in the box, click Close. Problem solved!
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 13, 2007, 02:33:37 pm
Ground your fingers to a suitable ground point to discharge any static from your body. Then take a pink eraser and rub the contacts on both sides of the stick then clean the contacts off with rubbing alcohol. Press the memory chips firmly onto the circuit board with your fingers (this sometimes solves chip creap problems). Reseat the RAM module carefiully and make sure both sides of the module housing on the motherboard click firmly home and that the side brackets are fully vertical.

I did all that except for cleaning the contacts. Before I call Kingston for a replacement, I'll try the cleaning. It's a laptop, so there are no "vertical side brackets," but I carefully made sure the thingies that secure the stick on the sides were properly positioned and the module was fully seated in the slot.

I have 512 megs in there now with two 256-meg modules. The one that failed was a 512 meg, which gave me 768.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 13, 2007, 02:52:18 pm
I can confirm the problem, but it only happens for root, it works ok for normal users.

It happened for me as user. I never started Adobe Reader as root. When I got the error, I simply did a
locate libgtkembedmoz
and then just fed the path to Adobe Reader's Edit, Preferences, Internet box. I didn't select a default browser there because I always do that very soon after first starting XFce and I guess once you set a default browser, it carries through the system.

Quote
BTW, why Adobe Reader? It's bloated and takes ages to load (version 5.x was probably the last "light" version)

The Scribus team is adamant that Adobe Reader must be used for checking out PDF files created by Scribus. AR is the only PDF reader that renders all the features of a Scribus PDF. And Scribus is supposed to create very good PDFs. I also find that AR has the best printing options and the best selection options for text and graphics.

When I need quick and dirty I use XPDF, which loads instantly and generally does the job as a viewer. I also have XPDF set as a browser helper for viewing PDFs online. "Bloat" is in the eye of the beholder. ;) If they're features someone doesn't use, it's called bloat. If they're features someone uses, it's "finally they put this in--should have done it sooner."

I agree AR could be a repository item rather than included in the ISO. Until 5.9, I always installed it from the tar.gz downloaded from adobe.com. It's binary and includes a script, so is simplicity itself to install. Come to think of it, why would AR even need to be in the repos? I don't think we should encourage users to become *completely* dependent on having packages.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 13, 2007, 02:54:28 pm
Whats so great about adobe's readers anyway? Never had any complaints about Xpdf   ::)

See my reply to Joe1962.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: rbistolfi on November 13, 2007, 03:04:33 pm
Bad luck for us, sometimes AR is a must. I found pdf documents that only render properly in AR.
AR is bloated, I wonder how they coded something so heavy for just reading pdf. Even the Windows version is around 35mb. Sometimes it takes forever to boot.
But sometimes other viewers can't handle the forms, comments, attachments and other stuff embedded in the pdf. I can't find any use for that, with the exception of the forms.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: easuter on November 13, 2007, 03:13:00 pm
I guess I'm lucky then: I've yet to come across a PDF document that Xpdf couldn't handle properly...
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: nubcnubdo on November 13, 2007, 07:40:55 pm
uelsk8s,
The vid card is RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro (rev. 15)

lagagnon,
Yes, I installed the kernel source. Also, I noticed the same bug with calling the Shutdown applet from Vector start button. However, when called by right clicking on dekstop to call the Xfce menu, the Shutdown dialog came up normally. The glitch associated with Vector button clears after a few false starts.

I'm taking another look at the fonts with 1024x768 resolution and I have to say, the fonts are smaller than what you might expect. I almost have to squint to read anything, and that is not usually the case with 1024x768 resolution.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: nubcnubdo on November 13, 2007, 08:20:04 pm
This is what happens when I select Nvidia Legacy driver:

Quote
Warning: The NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro GPU installed in this system is supported through the NVIDIA legacy Linux graphics drivers. Please visit http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html for more information. The 96.43.01 NVIDIA Linux graphics driver will ignore this GPU.

Warning: You do not appear to have an NVIDIA GPU supported by the 96.43.01 NVIDIA Linux graphics driver installed in this system. For further details, please see the appendix SUPPORTED NVIDIA GRAPHICS CHIPS in the README...

Building kernel module...
[progress bar]

Error: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'. This happens most frequently when this kernel module was built against the wrong or improperly configured kernel sources, with a version of gcc that differs from the one used to build the target kernel, or if a driver such as rivafb/nvidiafb is present and prevents the NVIDIA Kernel module from obtaining ownership of the NVIDIA graphics device(s). Please see log entries 'Kernel module load error' and 'Kernel messages' at the end of the file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for more information.

Error: Installation has failed. Please see the file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for details. You may find suggestions on fixing installation problems in the README available on the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com.

X WAS CONFIGURED SUCCESSFULLY
Your new X configuration has been saved to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

No...no...yes...no...no...YES...uh, no
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: uelsk8s on November 13, 2007, 09:16:48 pm
nubcnubdo,
when vxconf suggest the nvidia-legacy driver choose expert and then choose the 7186 driver.
can you post the output of lspci for that card?
Thanks
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: nubcnubdo on November 13, 2007, 10:15:46 pm
Installation went smoothly, font size is correct now, with Nvidia Accelerated Graphics Driver version 71.86.01.

lspci:
Code: [Select]
root:# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133] (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP]
00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 40)
00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 16)
00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 16)
00:07.4 SMBus: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 40)
00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)
00:0c.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 536EP Data Fax Modem
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15)

Thanks, uelsk8s, that's much better.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: kc1di on November 16, 2007, 04:38:46 am
Please post bugs, thoughts, improvements and anything else here concerning the 5.9-rc1 release. The release announcement said it all we are close to final so now is the time to speak up and also to volunteer if you see something that can be fixed and you know the answer to save us some work and time.

Thanks,
vec

I have a bug in RC1  In XFCE  when ever I click on the terminal it Crashes the X-Server.  it goes back to the login page, just as if I'd pressed Ctrl , Alt , Backspace.  I have temprorarily worked around this by changing all the termianal entries to execute xterm instead of terminal.. but don' like xterm as well.
Have just downloaded VL 5.9 RC1.3 don't know yet if it still has the same issue.  will load it tonight after work and give it a try.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: tomh38 on November 16, 2007, 05:40:39 am
I noticed that Thunar wasn't automatically refreshing when I was downloading a large file.  I booted into my 5.8 install and didn't have this problem.  Did some googling, and apparently there is a know bug with gamin 0.1.8 and Thunar.  I downgraded to gamin 0.1.7, and now Thunar automatically refreshes.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: exeterdad on November 16, 2007, 08:02:55 am
Thunar not refreshing, or very slow to refresh is something I've noticed throughout this whole 5.9 release.  I forgot to mention as I've gotten used to it.  It is confusing when I extract a file and don't see the folder in the dir.  I have to refresh Thunar to see if it extracted or not.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: kc1di on November 16, 2007, 08:35:23 am
I took a few minutes and loaded RC1.3 .Still have the same bug.
Any sugestions?
(See My post above)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: tomh38 on November 16, 2007, 09:26:59 am
exeterdad

Would you mind trying out gamin 0.1.7 - downgraded from 0.1.8 - just to see if this isn't just me?  I got it from the 5.8 repo, but here's a direct link:  http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-5.8/packages/base-apps/gamin-0.1.7-i586-4vl58.tlz (http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-5.8/packages/base-apps/gamin-0.1.7-i586-4vl58.tlz).

I'm pretty sure this is a gamin bug.  I downgraded to 0.1.7 yesterday and haven't seen any problems since then.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: uelsk8s on November 16, 2007, 09:51:06 am
I took a few minutes and loaded RC1.3 .Still have the same bug.
Any sugestions?
(See My post above)

can you post the ouput of "lspci|grep - vga"
and the out put of "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Driver"

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: exeterdad on November 16, 2007, 10:11:14 am
exeterdad
Would you mind trying out gamin 0.1.7 - downgraded from 0.1.8 - just to see if this isn't just me?  I got it from the 5.8 repo, but here's a direct link:  http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-5.8/packages/base-apps/gamin-0.1.7-i586-4vl58.tlz (http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-5.8/packages/base-apps/gamin-0.1.7-i586-4vl58.tlz).

I'm pretty sure this is a gamin bug.  I downgraded to 0.1.7 yesterday and haven't seen any problems since then.
I can't do it right now, but your experience is good enough for me.  Google proved that Thunar 0.8.0 and gamin 01.8 are known to work well together.  But there are many factors that can affect whether or not they play nice together.  You running a older version successfully, eliminates Thunar and the kernel config possibilities.  Chances are it's a simple little oversight during packing.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 16, 2007, 01:52:16 pm
xfburn seems unable to burn an ISO to CD on my Celeron desktop. It stayed at 1% until it gave me an error message that the job failed. I tried another CD and that failed, also. These were very old CD-RW disks that haven't been used a lot. I successfully burned the ISO to one using Windows.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: exeterdad on November 16, 2007, 02:01:44 pm
Reinstalling gamin 0.18 from the repo and restarting Xfce seems to fix it as well.  I can now
Quote
mkdir test
and see it quickly appear with Thunar.

So I take back my comment about a possible package oversight.  Sorry  :)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: kc1di on November 16, 2007, 05:20:45 pm
I took a few minutes and loaded RC1.3 .Still have the same bug.
Any sugestions?
(See My post above)

can you post the ouput of "lspci|grep - vga"
and the out put of "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Driver"

Thanks,
Uelsk8s

Hi
to both commands I get the return no such file or directory.. I must be doing something wrong.
Thanks for your help

Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: uelsk8s on November 16, 2007, 05:28:11 pm
I took a few minutes and loaded RC1.3 .Still have the same bug.
Any sugestions?
(See My post above)

can you post the ouput of "lspci|grep - vga"
and the out put of "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Driver"

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Hi
to both commands I get the return no such file or directory.. I must be doing something wrong.
Thanks for your help

I messed up the first command it should be
Code: [Select]
/sbin/lspci|grep -i vgathe second one is
Code: [Select]
cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Driver
Try copying and pasting them.

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: kc1di on November 17, 2007, 07:44:19 am
I took a few minutes and loaded RC1.3 .Still have the same bug.
Any sugestions?
(See My post above)

can you post the ouput of "lspci|grep - vga"
and the out put of "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Driver"

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Hi
to both commands I get the return no such file or directory.. I must be doing something wrong.
Thanks for your help

I messed up the first command it should be
Code: [Select]
/sbin/lspci|grep -i vgathe second one is
Code: [Select]
cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Driver
Try copying and pasting them.

Thanks,
Uelsk8s

HI again the out put for the first command is :
00:01.0 VGA Controler: Intel Corp 82810E Dc-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller (REV 03)

the second one still comes back no such file.

Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: kc1di on November 17, 2007, 08:30:13 am
just to let you know Tried Zenwalk live cd  which is also based on Slackware and using xfce and it shows the same problem as on VL.

Also the number key and cap lock lights do not work in VL 5.9 RC1.3
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: uelsk8s on November 17, 2007, 12:42:07 pm
We are working with the developers of gslapt and pkgtools-tukaani trying to find out the cause of gslapt hanging.
I need as many people as possible to start gslapt from a root terminal and try and get it to hang.
once it does if you can open another terminal and post the output of "ps -ef|grep slapt" and "ps -ef |grep pkgtool" It would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: lagagnon on November 17, 2007, 01:18:08 pm
...start gslapt from a root terminal and try and get it to hang

No can do. Works fine here on stock RC1.3.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: nightflier on November 17, 2007, 03:04:49 pm
I need as many people as possible to start gslapt from a root terminal and try and get it to hang.

Works fine on my RC 1.3, as long as I'm root.

When running as regular user, it won't launch from start menu. Trying from terminal:
Code: [Select]
$ gslapt
/home/ftp/pub/veclinux/packages: Permission denied
Please update permissions on /home/ftp/pub/veclinux/packages or run with appropriate privileges
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: exeterdad on November 17, 2007, 04:21:27 pm
So far I've never had any issues with Gslapt aside from not being able to launch with the menu entry.
Title: Problem closing vlsmbmnt
Post by: ted1959 on November 18, 2007, 08:52:48 am
I've been tryint out VL 5.9 RC1 or a short while now. I was looking through the Network menu and decided to try out "vlsmbmnt". Once it started I decided to just close it by clicking "Cancel", the window goes away but then comes back in a few seconds. I tried closing it again but it keeps coming back. I finally had to open a terminal and kill all processes associated with it.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: nightflier on November 18, 2007, 09:12:15 am
I've found that vlsmbmount must be closed using the "Quit" option. Double-click it, or select and then click OK.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: uelsk8s on November 18, 2007, 09:23:55 am
vlsmbmnt cancel button will be fixed in next release.
thanks for letting us know it didnt work,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: toothandnail on November 18, 2007, 10:40:29 am
I need as many people as possible to start gslapt from a root terminal and try and get it to hang.
once it does if you can open another terminal and post the output of "ps -ef|grep slapt" and "ps -ef |grep pkgtool" It would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry to be slow - I'm working fairly strange hours this weekend.

Finally tried this. And, for the first time, I was able to select multiple packages and have Gslapt run to completion without hanging. I have no idea what might have changed.

I'll keep trying to see if I can provoke the earlier lockups...

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: rbistolfi on November 18, 2007, 06:37:19 pm
I need as many people as possible to start gslapt from a root terminal and try and get it to hang.
once it does if you can open another terminal and post the output of "ps -ef|grep slapt" and "ps -ef |grep pkgtool" It would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry to be slow - I'm working fairly strange hours this weekend.

Finally tried this. And, for the first time, I was able to select multiple packages and have Gslapt run to completion without hanging. I have no idea what might have changed.

I'll keep trying to see if I can provoke the earlier lockups...

paul.

Same here. Could an specific package problem? Perhaps the package was removed for other reason and the problem is gone now.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Mihail121-tera on November 21, 2007, 08:06:51 am
I'm downloading the RC1 now, will install it in about an hour. I just hope, that the serious XPDF bug, that causes the whole system to lock (hard reset - NOT GOOD) has been solved. Also I hope the ATI drivers will run correctly this time without producing 2,000,000 error messages. ATI sucks by the way. Stay tuned!
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: lagagnon on November 21, 2007, 08:58:41 am
I'm downloading the RC1 now, will install it in about an hour.
Please make sure you download the latest: RC1.7
Quote
I just hope, that the serious XPDF bug, that causes the whole system to lock
I have not seen that bug here. Which version of VL was that with and did you have any other video/windows/desktop problems associated with it?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Mihail121-tera on November 21, 2007, 09:38:57 am
I'm downloading the RC1 now, will install it in about an hour.
Please make sure you download the latest: RC1.7
Quote
I just hope, that the serious XPDF bug, that causes the whole system to lock
I have not seen that bug here. Which version of VL was that with and did you have any other video/windows/desktop problems associated with it?

Yap, that's what I'm downloading! The XPDF bug I'm having over here is as follows: If I press 'o' the "Open file..." dialog shows as normal. If I then quickly press the right mouse button on the original XPDF window the context menu of the application will show and XFCE will somehow freeze beyond repair (only reboot solves it). All application seems to be running (the system itself does not freeze) but there is no keyboard and mouse interaction at all. I can move the pointer around but clicks and highlighting do not work. It occurs on 5.8 Standard.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: lagagnon on November 21, 2007, 03:50:27 pm
The XPDF bug I'm having over here is as follows: If I press 'o' the "Open file..." dialog shows as normal. If I then quickly press the right mouse button on the original XPDF window the context menu of the application will show and XFCE will somehow freeze beyond repair

I cannot regenerate your experiences with xpdf on VL5.8 Standard. Works just fine here and I've never had a problem with it and xfce. Perhaps you just had a funny glitch in it - possible re-installing it might have worked...just a suggestion...
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Masta on November 27, 2007, 11:07:30 pm
For those that might have missed it, there's a wallpaper to match the new XFCE menu button. We know you'll love it as much as you do the button.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1324/attackoftheprunept8.jpg
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: The Headacher on November 28, 2007, 05:25:12 am
For those that might have missed it, there's a wallpaper to match the new XFCE menu button. We know you'll love it as much as you do the button.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1324/attackoftheprunept8.jpg
Of course you realize that button hasn't been used until rc2 right ;)?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Masta on November 28, 2007, 12:06:03 pm
LOL .. well dang it anyways,, just my luck to make a post in the wrong place and mess everything up.  ;D  ::)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Audiolis on December 01, 2007, 02:01:38 pm
I can´t login (graphic mode) as normal user. I can only do it as root.
I type username and password. After that I get a black screen, and then again the log in screen.
In text mode there is no problem (eg. Ctrl+Alt+F1).

I´m running a Toshiba Satellite 4030CDT (Celeron 300Mhz/192MB RAM)

Any ideas?
Audiolis
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Audiolis on December 01, 2007, 03:04:53 pm
Maybe this issue is related with low hard disk space...
I let you know
Audiolis
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: Audiolis on December 03, 2007, 03:46:48 am
It was due to HD space...
I´m switching to RC2
Audiolis
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc-1 bugs, suggestions and discussion
Post by: MikeCindi on December 03, 2007, 10:17:38 am
I´m switching to RC2
FWIW since RC3 was released today I'd download it vs. RC2.  ;)