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Cooking up the Treats => Distro development => Topic started by: uelsk8s on November 26, 2007, 10:24:40 am

Title: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on November 26, 2007, 10:24:40 am
ISO is here: http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-5.9/iso-release/VL5.9-STD-RC2.iso

vmount now mounts ntfs with ntfs-3g so please give that a try
VLwifi will now try to add a windows driver to ndiswrapper if no wireless connection is found
kernel is fixed for tuxonice. let us know if it works.

We changed the menu icon, please give us your honest opinion about it.

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: exeterdad on November 26, 2007, 10:27:20 am
404 error not found

Edit:  There now  :)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: M0E-lnx on November 26, 2007, 10:34:50 am
I never thought I'd use my 1000th post to say just this, but here it is anyway...

The link works here ;)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on November 26, 2007, 10:36:19 am
Happy 1000 M0e    ;D
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: exeterdad on November 26, 2007, 10:44:35 am
I never thought I'd use my 1000th post to say just this, but here it is anyway...

The link works here ;)

lol!  You knucklehead!
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8321/moego0.png)
Here ya go....  put it in your wallet or something.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: M0E-lnx on November 26, 2007, 10:45:22 am
Hehe... nice ;)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: exeterdad on November 26, 2007, 11:41:49 am
We changed the menu icon, please give us your honest opinion about it.

Ummmm.....  You're pulling our legs right?  I'm not gonna spoil the surprise. But since I am who I am.  I like it.  Not sure if it's the right icon for VL though.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: easuter on November 26, 2007, 12:30:31 pm
Quote from: uelsk8s
We changed the menu icon, please give us your honest opinion about it.

Erm....its a bit weird LOL.
My first thought was "How do I change it?!"  :-\
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nightflier on November 26, 2007, 12:41:31 pm
Checksum:

6e1472d00c966d268f6c06cd2874f905  VL5.9-STD-RC2.iso
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: exeterdad on November 26, 2007, 12:43:37 pm
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kernel is fixed for tuxonice. let us know if it works.
We have tuxonice?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: easuter on November 26, 2007, 01:00:27 pm
Quote from: exeterdad
We have tuxonice?

We sure do. Its patched into the kernel, but the hibernate scripts are nowhere to be found...

A small insignificant detail noticed in XMMS: the playlist is full of leftover tracks of what appears to be a Reo Speedwagon CD  :D
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: exeterdad on November 26, 2007, 01:37:33 pm
For some reason DHCP seems to be giving me grief. Might be my router, but wasn't a issue before.  Each boot I'd run Vasm and reconfigure and I'd get connected.  But it wouldn't stick.  On boot I'd see the "Setting up basic network" text and it would hang for quite a while, then continue to boot. Setting as static works, and works FAST.  We'll see if anyone else notices anything.

Not sure that I have the hardware to test other things that have been worked on.  It's look'n good.

But I always feel like I'm being watched for some reason.  :D
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: blurymind on November 26, 2007, 02:17:25 pm
For some reason DHCP seems to be giving me grief. Might be my router, but wasn't a issue before.  Each boot I'd run Vasm and reconfigure and I'd get connected.  But it wouldn't stick.  On boot I'd see the "Setting up basic network" text and it would hang for quite a while, then continue to boot. Setting as static works, and works FAST.  We'll see if anyone else notices anything.

Not sure that I have the hardware to test other things that have been worked on.  It's look'n good.

But I always feel like I'm being watched for some reason.  :D
this might be the good old switching eth devices bug  ;D There was a howto,which i had to btw use back at the pseudo cd
you guys are tickling my curiosity with that start button. Is it an eye?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: lagagnon on November 26, 2007, 03:41:54 pm
Some things I've noticed:

1) still this xfce? bug: sometimes clicking the xfce menu item "Exit" does not work.
2) audacious has been replaced with xmms but the jwm and fluxbox menus still show audacious.
3) the jwm menu, main categories, some have icons, some don't. Looks unprofessional that way. I suggest we just remove the icons in those main menu categories...
4) in xfce the panel button at the bottom is for "vasm"  - perhaps we should change it to "vasmcc" ??

Users might be interested in these USED memory (excluding buffers) results for the 3 different window managers in VL5.9. This is with only xterm loaded and without "wbar" in fluxbox:

fluxbox: 74592K  (with wbar loaded its 78216K)
jwm:      75060K
xfce:      89848K

With xfce it takes 236000K to get the desktop up and loaded. So really, for users not to use swap memory they need to have 256MB of RAM. I'm sure 128MB will work with xfce, but loading OO and/or Firefox will definetely then be using swap. We "might" want to consider this in our "system requirements", because our website currently says "96MB" minimum. This is rather optimistic, IMHO!
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: easuter on November 26, 2007, 04:02:43 pm
Ok, I'm just going to be blunt: I really hate that icon. It doesn't give any branding you would expect from a distro, and it just looks...childish or immature.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: easuter on November 26, 2007, 04:03:21 pm
lagagnon, are you using VL-hot or HAL to manage devices?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: lagagnon on November 26, 2007, 04:30:16 pm
lagagnon, are you using VL-hot or HAL to manage devices?

HAL.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on November 26, 2007, 04:42:40 pm
Here are new menu's for fluxbox and jwm :
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/Uelsk8s/menu
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/Uelsk8s/system.jwmrc
 put menu in ~/.fluxbox and put system.jwmrc into /usr/etc
Let me know if i missed anything.
Thanks
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: easuter on November 26, 2007, 04:48:16 pm
free -m reports 64mb used in Xfce with VL-hot setup instead of HAL.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nightflier on November 26, 2007, 05:58:39 pm
The start button.. just in case it's not a joke: I strongly dislike it.  :P

pyneighborhood: Am I the only one unable to mount a local samba share with it? vlsmbmnt works fine.
--edit: found the problem. In preferences, default mount folder is "/mnt/lan", which does not exist.

.tar.gz files should be associated with Xarchiver.

Otherwise, looking very good on my machine!
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Lyn on November 27, 2007, 01:58:34 am
OK the good news, my i810 graphics were configures without a problem, so I booted into a nice Xfce desktop.

The bad news, I can't launch a terminal - from an icon on a panel or from the menu.  Also I can't launch a terminal ap like Htop.  The result is the same, chashes X.  This is all in Xfce

We changed the menu icon, please give us your honest opinion about it.

Thanks,
Uelsk8s

Sorry, though its quite amusing I would much rather the V for Vector
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on November 27, 2007, 05:13:35 am
ISO is here: http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-5.9/iso-release/VL5.9-STD-RC2.iso

Got it. Another horribly slow download for some reason. Same problem when I updated Gslapt...

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vmount now mounts ntfs with ntfs-3g so please give that a try

 :( Still got the same problem with vmount. It initally identifies /dev/hda1 as HPFS/NTFS, but adds it to fstab as XFS.. Mounting using 'mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /mnt/win-d' correctly mounts the partition as NTFS. I have no idea what is causing that problem...

As a matter of interest, what do I need in fstab to use ntfs-3g to mount it?

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VLwifi will now try to add a windows driver to ndiswrapper if no wireless connection is found

Haven't tried it yet. Last time I did, I had a lot of trouble getting back to a working wired connection. Haven't had time to investigate further yet..

I notice that ifplugd is not enabled by default in services. Is that intentional or did it slip through the cracks?

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kernel is fixed for tuxonice. let us know if it works.

 :-[ Revealing my ignorance here. How do I test it?

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We changed the menu icon, please give us your honest opinion about it.

 ;D Personally, I quite like it. Unfortunately, I usually remove the menu icon anyway - I always use the right-click menu, so it seems a bit of a waste of space to have the menu on the panel...

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: M0E-lnx on November 27, 2007, 06:53:52 am
Ok, I'm just going to be blunt: I really hate that icon. It doesn't give any branding you would expect from a distro, and it just looks...childish or immature.

Couldn't agree more...

Granted I've only seen a screenie, because I still have not installed this release, but I say the icon gots to go!.. No offence, but it just doesn't say "Look at me... I'm a serious OS".
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on November 27, 2007, 09:39:21 am
Attempting to use K3b for the first time, to burn an iso image.

When I tried to start the burn, I got this:

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Cdrecord has no permission to open the device
you may use k3bsetup2 to solve this problem

Using k3setup and applying the default permissions sorted it out. Could those permissions be set during install?

paul
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on November 27, 2007, 10:04:24 am
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vmount now mounts ntfs with ntfs-3g so please give that a try

 :( Still got the same problem with vmount. It initally identifies /dev/hda1 as HPFS/NTFS, but adds it to fstab as XFS.. Mounting using 'mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /mnt/win-d' correctly mounts the partition as NTFS. I have no idea what is causing that problem...

As a matter of interest, what do I need in fstab to use ntfs-3g to mount it?

Lets try and disect this.
from vmount the first check for hda1 comes from this
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probepart 2>/dev/null | grep -e "^/dev" | grep -v " Ext'd" | grep -v "raid autodetect" | sed 's/*/ /'

after that it gets the filesystem from this
Code: [Select]
mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION"`
FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
If you could unmount /dev/hda1
and then run this and post output back here I would appreciate it.

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PARTITION=/dev/hda1
mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION"`
FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
echo $FSTYPE

the correct fstab line for hda1 should be
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/dev/hda1   /mnt/win-d  ntfs-3g  defaults,allow_other,umask=0,users,nls=utf8,noexec 0 0
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on November 27, 2007, 10:47:53 am
Lets try and disect this.
from vmount the first check for hda1 comes from this
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probepart 2>/dev/null | grep -e "^/dev" | grep -v " Ext'd" | grep -v "raid autodetect" | sed 's/*/ /'

after that it gets the filesystem from this
Code: [Select]
mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION"`
FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
If you could unmount /dev/hda1
and then run this and post output back here I would appreciate it.

Code: [Select]
PARTITION=/dev/hda1
mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION"`
FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
echo $FSTYPE

Right. As below:

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root:# umount win-c
t-40vl://mnt
root:# PARTITION=/dev/hda1
t-40vl://mnt
root:# mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
t-40vl://mnt
root:# LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION"`
t-40vl://mnt
root:# FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
t-40vl://mnt
root:# echo $FSTYPE
xfs

Strange....  Even stranger, if I run 'mount' after running that, I get this:

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red2:$ mount
/dev/hda12 on / type xfs (rw)
/dev/hda10 on /home type xfs (rw)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/hda5 on /mnt/win-d type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=000)
/dev/hda6 on /mnt/os2-e type hpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/hda7 on /mnt/os2-f type hpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/hda8 on /mnt/zboot type ext2 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/hda9 on /mnt/os2-g type jfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
/dev/hda1 on /mnt/hd type ntfs (rw)

So it has reported XFS but mount has correctly mounted it as NTFS.  Weird....

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the correct fstab line for hda1 should be
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/dev/hda1   /mnt/win-d  ntfs-3g  defaults,allow_other,umask=0,users,nls=utf8,noexec 0 0

Great, thanks for that...

paul
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on November 27, 2007, 11:18:20 am
toothandnail,
I suspect your hda12 is getting in the way
try this "mount | grep -e /dev/hda1"
I think you will get output from hda1 and hda12
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on November 27, 2007, 11:47:11 am
toothandnail,
I suspect your hda12 is getting in the way
try this "mount | grep -e /dev/hda1"
I think you will get output from hda1 and hda12

You've hit it. In fact, its even worse - both hda12 and hda10 are getting in the way. This is the result:

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red2:$ mount | grep -e /dev/hda1
/dev/hda12 on / type xfs (rw)
/dev/hda10 on /home type xfs (rw)
/dev/hda1 on /mnt/win-d type fuseblk (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,allow_other,blksize=4096)

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: caitlyn on November 27, 2007, 12:14:32 pm
I haven't been able to try RC2 yet because of downloading issues.  I did not have this problem with RC1.3 which downloaded just fine.  As others have said the downloads are horribly slow and get interrupted/stop frequently.  I'm trying again now.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on November 27, 2007, 12:39:07 pm
toothandnail,
can you try this code below and see if it fixes it?

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PARTITION=/dev/hda1
mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION "`
FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
echo $FSTYPE

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: The Headacher on November 27, 2007, 12:39:07 pm
Ok, I'm just going to be blunt: I really hate that icon. It doesn't give any branding you would expect from a distro, and it just looks...childish or immature.

Couldn't agree more...

Granted I've only seen a screenie, because I still have not installed this release, but I say the icon gots to go!.. No offence, but it just doesn't say "Look at me... I'm a serious OS".
We got a little creative in the vectorlinux-admin chat, here's my take on things:
http://the.headacher.googlepages.com/Ugly_prune_animation.gif

Ps. So far little issues with 5.9 RC2
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 27, 2007, 12:53:05 pm
I've installed RC2 on my Turion laptop, whose history with Linux is troubled but has been improving. I thought the issues were fixed with RC 1.7. Alas, they're back with RC2.

Sound is not working--AGAIN! It seems it gets fixed in one beta or RC and is broken again in the next one. :( The problem is the same as always: it looks like sound is playing (dancing bars in XMMS) but there is no sound from the speakers. If I start xmms from the command line, there are no error messages. In Xine the file simply didn't play at all. Mixer sound levels are all adjusted and not muted. This is SigmaTel HDA CODEC/STAC9200. This is SOOOO frustrating!

Next problem: VLwifi configures my WPA wireless very nicely and I can use my browser right after running VLwifi (as I am now). However, although I checked "connect at boot" or whatever the option is, it doesn't survive a reboot. I have to go through the entire configuration every time. I don't have to go through the whole "load a driver in ndiswrapper" thing, but from that point on I have to do the whole routine every time--ESSID, WPA password, addresses (I used fixed IP and specific DNS addresses). In RC1.7 once I got the thing going, it connected again on the next boot. So VLwifi is very good and very easy at setting up the wireless connection, but for some reason it can't survive a reboot.

On the plus side, I was able to install the default kernel without hanging. That was an issue before RC 1.7, maybe even 1.3. It's all starting to blur. :)

As for the "Start" button, I hate it! It's ugly and I can't even tell what it is except for some kind of eyes. Hey, are you all using 640x480? On a modern resolution the icon is too small to know what it's supposed to be. Also, the default font sizes are WAY too small. Even with qtconfig and adjustments in XFce's Settings Manager, I still get type so small that I can barely make it out on some screens that don't comply with qtconfig or XFce settings. I notice xorg.conf's monitor section has a
DisplaySize 338 211 # 96 DPI @ 1280x800
line. It seems there should be a way to have that adjusted to 120 DPI as in Windows' Large Fonts. Hey, I haven't used 96 DPI since I got a 1024x768 monitor way back in the last century! Being able to set the font default at 120 DPI instead of 96 would make all the fonts larger at the outset with the same opportunities to customize the font sizes as we have now.

Anyway, I hope a fix for my sound is forthcoming.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: exeterdad on November 27, 2007, 01:03:05 pm
Quote
We got a little creative in the vectorlinux-admin chat, here's my take on things:
http://the.headacher.googlepages.com/Ugly_prune_animation.gif
:D
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on November 27, 2007, 01:08:42 pm
God, downloaded last night. Very slow and didnĀ“t pass the md5. I am downloading again now. The curiosity about that button is killing me.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: The Headacher on November 27, 2007, 01:43:26 pm
I've found 2 things so far:

1)  Mplayer doesn't play DVD's, it either says "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device." or nothing at all, depending on what video driver I choose .

When I start it from commandline ("gmplayer /dev/dvd") it does play, but I get lots of weird squares all over the screen. Also, a lot of errors concerning "a52" (audio codec) show up.

Playing it in xine works fine though.

2)  "vasmCC -> Filesystem -> Partition" doesn't seem to work.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on November 27, 2007, 01:48:25 pm
toothandnail,
can you try this code below and see if it fixes it?

Code: [Select]
PARTITION=/dev/hda1
mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION "`
FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
echo $FSTYPE

 8)  ;D Great! That does it. As below:

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root:# PARTITION=/dev/hda1
t-40vl://mnt
root:# mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
t-40vl://mnt
root:# LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION "`
t-40vl://mnt
root:# FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
t-40vl://mnt
root:# echo $FSTYPE
ntfs

Thanks....

paul
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on November 27, 2007, 02:08:12 pm
IAs for the "Start" button, I hate it! It's ugly and I can't even tell what it is except for some kind of eyes. Hey, are you all using 640x480? On a modern resolution the icon is too small to know what it's supposed to be. Also, the default font sizes are WAY too small. Even with qtconfig and adjustments in XFce's Settings Manager, I still get type so small that I can barely make it out on some screens that don't comply with qtconfig or XFce settings. I notice xorg.conf's monitor section has a
DisplaySize 338 211 # 96 DPI @ 1280x800
line. It seems there should be a way to have that adjusted to 120 DPI as in Windows' Large Fonts. Hey, I haven't used 96 DPI since I got a 1024x768 monitor way back in the last century! Being able to set the font default at 120 DPI instead of 96 would make all the fonts larger at the outset with the same opportunities to customize the font sizes as we have now.

 ;D Shows how different people's reqirements are. The first thing I do on installing Vector is to reduce the size of the desktop icons, the size of the desktop fonts, then all the other fonts on the system. My laptop is less than cutting edge technology - only good for 1024x768 and I find all the fonts much too large...

As to being able to adjust the font DPI, that isn't too far off. Have a look a this:

http://www.users.waitrose.com/%7Epaulm/files/xfce4.png

 :) So you shouldn't have too long to wait until you can adjust the DPI from within X.

paul
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on November 27, 2007, 02:16:59 pm
Well, now the download stoped at 99%. Anyone having the same problem?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on November 27, 2007, 03:15:44 pm
Well, now the download stoped at 99%. Anyone having the same problem?

Mine stopped a couple of times. I'm very grateful for wget...

Its a strange problem. The first couple of isos I downloaded were fine. Then I got a couple of very slow downloads, one not so bad, and the last one which took around six and a half hours.

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: exeterdad on November 27, 2007, 03:25:58 pm
I was fortunate.  I had just downloaded the rc1.12.  Then rc2 hit the shelves, so I used a 6mb delta to create the rc2.iso.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 27, 2007, 04:56:36 pm
;D Shows how different people's reqirements are. The first thing I do on installing Vector is to reduce the size of the desktop icons, the size of the desktop fonts, then all the other fonts on the system. My laptop is less than cutting edge technology - only good for 1024x768 and I find all the fonts much too large...

As to being able to adjust the font DPI, that isn't too far off. Have a look a this:

http://www.users.waitrose.com/%7Epaulm/files/xfce4.png

How old are you? :) At some point in life, the eyes start to go and the fonts get bigger. I passed that point about twenty years ago.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 27, 2007, 05:09:02 pm
About an hour ago I finished installing RC2 on my Celeron desktop. It has always been very Linux friendly and the friendship continues under RC2.

I haven't done much testing, but when I tried to select Double Size for XMMS, XMMS disappeared as in "shut down." That also happened on my Turion laptop, the difference being that I get sound on the Celeron desktop but no sound on the laptop. Anyway, XMMS can't seem to handle being double sized and it's pretty useless to me at the size it comes up in because I can't read anything, like song titles. I'll do more testing tomorrow.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on November 27, 2007, 05:21:34 pm
to get xmms to do doublesize you have to start it with this command
"export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 && xmms"
we should probably add that to the launcher
let me know if it works for you.

Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on November 27, 2007, 06:17:29 pm
OK the good news, my i810 graphics were configures without a problem, so I booted into a nice Xfce desktop.

The bad news, I can't launch a terminal - from an icon on a panel or from the menu.  Also I can't launch a terminal ap like Htop.  The result is the same, chashes X.  This is all in Xfce
Lyn can you try launching xterm (ALT+F2) and then run terminal and some other apps like htop after typing this
export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 27, 2007, 06:32:28 pm
to get xmms to do doublesize you have to start it with this command
"export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 && xmms"
we should probably add that to the launcher
let me know if it works for you.

It worked on both computers but has to be run from a terminal. If I tried it with XFce's Run command, it doesn't start. Of course, it didn't get sound working on the laptop. ;)
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Dweeberkitty on November 27, 2007, 06:58:47 pm
Hey everybody, I just released Multimedia Bonus Disc Alpha 2. It would be nice to have a bunch of people who are testing out VL 5.9 to also test this out. Thanks.

http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4040.msg32042#msg32042
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 27, 2007, 07:29:16 pm
Does the Multimedia Bonus Disk have to be installed on its own partition? In other words, would it be a VL installation in its own right? I can't test if it requires its own partition.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Dweeberkitty on November 27, 2007, 07:35:23 pm
The Multimedia Bonus Disc is an "addon" to VL. To install, one simply needs to open the CD within VL5.9 and click on the "Install" icon. It doesn't require any additional partitions, but merely contains a very nice selection of multimedia packages that get installed on your existing VL5.9 installation.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on November 27, 2007, 07:53:07 pm
1)  Mplayer doesn't play DVD's, it either says "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device." or nothing at all, depending on what video driver I choose .

I get the same error with the default driver. Selecting 'X11 (XImage/Shm )' driver works for me.
 
I like the 'freemem' thing, but I think it should show some alert, like 'Done', when executed.

Kdelibs gives unmet dependency, it complains about vlnvidia package. All kde apps gives 'undefined symbols' if you don't upgrade kdelibs from the testing repo. I am sure it worked before, I installed kde from the repo in the previous releases, something went wrong with the kdelibs package.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on November 27, 2007, 08:30:21 pm
OK the good news, my i810 graphics were configures without a problem, so I booted into a nice Xfce desktop.

The bad news, I can't launch a terminal - from an icon on a panel or from the menu.  Also I can't launch a terminal ap like Htop.  The result is the same, chashes X.  This is all in Xfce
Lyn can you try launching xterm (ALT+F2) and then run terminal and some other apps like htop after typing this
export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1

Thanks,
Uelsk8s

Wow!! It worked for me!
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: JohnB316 on November 27, 2007, 09:04:05 pm
---snip---

Kdelibs gives unmet dependency, it complains about vlnvidia package. All kde apps gives 'undefined symbols' if you don't upgrade kdelibs from the testing repo. I am sure it worked before, I installed kde from the repo in the previous releases, something went wrong with the kdelibs package.

I built KDE 3.5.8 for VL 5.9 on a different box from the one I normally use. That particular box had the vlnvidia package installed. That's why the problems. I'll rebuild kdelibs on a box that does not have the proprietary nvidia drivers on it.

Thanks for pointing this out,
John

P.S.: To packagers: try not to build packages on boxes that have the proprietary video drivers for reasons that are made obvious from the quote above. ;-)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on November 27, 2007, 09:57:53 pm
---snip---

Kdelibs gives unmet dependency, it complains about vlnvidia package. All kde apps gives 'undefined symbols' if you don't upgrade kdelibs from the testing repo. I am sure it worked before, I installed kde from the repo in the previous releases, something went wrong with the kdelibs package.

I built KDE 3.5.8 for VL 5.9 on a different box from the one I normally use. That particular box had the vlnvidia package installed. That's why the problems. I'll rebuild kdelibs on a box that does not have the proprietary nvidia drivers on it.

Thanks for pointing this out,
John

P.S.: To packagers: try not to build packages on boxes that have the proprietary video drivers for reasons that are made obvious from the quote above. ;-)
This is one that packagers will have to watch closely.
The vlnvidia package has the source and libs for building and installing the proprietary nvidia driver. makeslapt and requiredbuilder  Are seeing the libs in this package and assuming that they are the ones that the system is using.
The vlnvidia package should not be installed on package build boxes even if the driver is not installed into the system. if it is you will get a fake dependency on it.

 
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on November 27, 2007, 10:39:01 pm
Finally made it. The first download was corrupted, the second attempt failed and the third instaledd now nicely.

First I had to change that ugly prune on the xfce4-panel.

The internet connection needed this time more steps. Previously I just had to rmmod tulip and modprobe dmfe for my Davicom eth card and the connecetion was established. This time I had to set USE_DHCP[0]="yes" and then rc.inet1 start. Further I have to blacklist tulip and in rc.modules enable dmfe. I am used to this by now, however, that is a no go for a newcomer if that person happens to have a davicom eth card.

The real bad news, I CAN'T PRINT AGAIN as with kernel 2.6.23.1.
 I have to change to the previous kernel and hope to find it.

WRONG! Started with VL-hot changed to HAL and printer is working. That was not the case with 2.6.23.1 it would not print with HAL

$ look previous
look: /usr/share/dict/words: No such file or directory

I thought that dictionary is a standard feature.

Playing audio CDs works again with one click with xmms. Thanks. And DVD etc. work well with xine. I have not tried mplayer since I have an aversion to it.
In firefox embedded mplayer works for video streaming.

Regards

Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 27, 2007, 11:27:58 pm
The Multimedia Bonus Disc is an "addon" to VL. To install, one simply needs to open the CD within VL5.9 and click on the "Install" icon. It doesn't require any additional partitions, but merely contains a very nice selection of multimedia packages that get installed on your existing VL5.9 installation.

Thanks. That's what I was hoping. Can you pick which packages you want if you click on the Install icon?
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Lyn on November 28, 2007, 01:14:28 am
OK the good news, my i810 graphics were configures without a problem, so I booted into a nice Xfce desktop.

The bad news, I can't launch a terminal - from an icon on a panel or from the menu.  Also I can't launch a terminal ap like Htop.  The result is the same, chashes X.  This is all in Xfce
Lyn can you try launching xterm (ALT+F2) and then run terminal and some other apps like htop after typing this
export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1

Thanks,
Uelsk8s

OK that works - no problems there
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on November 28, 2007, 02:19:51 am
How old are you? :) At some point in life, the eyes start to go and the fonts get bigger. I passed that point about twenty years ago.

 ;D I had my 57th birthday a little while ago. As to the fonts, so long as they're clean, I have no problems with them. In some distros they are so jagged that I can't deal with them even when they're the size that Vector comes with as standard.

Using the MS corefonts helps as well, though some of the newer open source fonts (such as the Liberation fonts) are rapidly getting to a standard that will remove the need for the MS fonts. I've also got a set of fonts from Vista which I must try sometime soon.

Even without the DPI settings available in Xfce 4.4.2, DPI can be forced. I just can't remember how to do it...

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on November 28, 2007, 03:26:20 am
---snip---

Kdelibs gives unmet dependency, it complains about vlnvidia package. All kde apps gives 'undefined symbols' if you don't upgrade kdelibs from the testing repo. I am sure it worked before, I installed kde from the repo in the previous releases, something went wrong with the kdelibs package.

I built KDE 3.5.8 for VL 5.9 on a different box from the one I normally use. That particular box had the vlnvidia package installed. That's why the problems. I'll rebuild kdelibs on a box that does not have the proprietary nvidia drivers on it.

Thanks for pointing this out,
John

P.S.: To packagers: try not to build packages on boxes that have the proprietary video drivers for reasons that are made obvious from the quote above. ;-)

Thanks John. BTW, I used the --no-dep flag and everything works.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: exeterdad on November 28, 2007, 04:10:21 am
Quote
This is one that packagers will have to watch closely.
The vlnvidia package has the source and libs for building and installing the proprietary nvidia driver. makeslapt and requiredbuilder  Are seeing the libs in this package and assuming that they are the ones that the system is using.
The vlnvidia package should not be installed on package build boxes even if the driver is not installed into the system. if it is you will get a fake dependency on it.

I've been bitten by this before.  I never get to have a decent video driver  :-\
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Dweeberkitty on November 28, 2007, 08:10:05 am
The Multimedia Bonus Disc is an "addon" to VL. To install, one simply needs to open the CD within VL5.9 and click on the "Install" icon. It doesn't require any additional partitions, but merely contains a very nice selection of multimedia packages that get installed on your existing VL5.9 installation.

Thanks. That's what I was hoping. Can you pick which packages you want if you click on the Install icon?
--GrannyGeek

Unfortunately, not yet. Probably what will end up happening later is the installer will open Gslapt and you can choose from there, but I have yet to make that work. Also, the packages will *hopefully* get put into the repos soon and you could choose the packages from there. But, for testing purposes, it's nice to be able to test out everything to make sure it works. Don't worry, individual package selection will be in place before a final release.

P.S.: To packagers: try not to build packages on boxes that have the proprietary video drivers for reasons that are made obvious from the quote above. ;-)
Uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh.....So what should I do?  :-\
Now that I've built some 120 packages on a system that has Nvidia drivers installed. Do I have to rebuild and resubmit everything? Isn't there some other way of resolving this? Such as adding vlnvidia to the repos? Thanks for the warning ahead of time.  ;)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on November 28, 2007, 08:31:34 am

P.S.: To packagers: try not to build packages on boxes that have the proprietary video drivers for reasons that are made obvious from the quote above. ;-)
Uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh.....So what should I do?  :-\
Now that I've built some 120 packages on a system that has Nvidia drivers installed. Do I have to rebuild and resubmit everything? Isn't there some other way of resolving this? Such as adding vlnvidia to the repos? Thanks for the warning ahead of time.  ;)

The vlnvidia package is an optional package that has to be unselected at install time. Because of that I believe tha 90% or more users will have this package on their box whether they have an nvidia card or not.
There are a couple of scenarios here:
1) you have the vlnvidia package installed but the driver is not installed. In this case you may have some packages with a "FAKE" dep on it. You may safely edit the slack-required file and remove the vlnvidia line.
2)you have the vlnvidia package installed, and the driver is installed (nvidia libs in /usr and you get the nvidia splash screen when X starts) in this case you would have real deps on it. and the packages should be rebuilt.

The warnings on not to build on systems with proprietary video drivers installed have been made many times before this. If you would like to use proprietary video drivers on your build box you must make a "clean" chroot environment to build packages in.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 28, 2007, 08:59:50 am
Probably what will end up happening later is the installer will open Gslapt and you can choose from there, but I have yet to make that work. Also, the packages will *hopefully* get put into the repos soon and you could choose the packages from there. But, for testing purposes, it's nice to be able to test out everything to make sure it works. Don't worry, individual package selection will be in place before a final release.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to test until VL5.9 Final is released. What with installing every new Release Candidate on four computers for testing purposes, I just don't have time for yet more testing.

The NVidia problem is going to bite me on three of the four computers. I have one computer with NVIDIA graphics and that's the only one I've installed the NVIDIA package on. I've unchecked it at installation on the other three.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 28, 2007, 09:28:34 am
;D I had my 57th birthday a little while ago.

Then you're doing very well! I passed 57 several years ago, but even back then my eyes would have rebelled at the small size. In the years since 57 I've had very fancy eye surgery to repair a macular hole, which was pretty successful except that I have a slight permanent central vision defect in that eye. It later developed a cataract as a side effect of the surgery and I had cataract surgery a few years ago. That was also very successful, but it can't do anything about the central vision defect. My other eye is severely presbyopic, and while glasses help a lot with that, my eyes have such a great difference in vision that glasses can't get them totally in sync.

Quote
Even without the DPI settings available in Xfce 4.4.2, DPI can be forced. I just can't remember how to do it...

I recently noticed the "96 DPI" line in xorg.conf and I expect you could modify it for 120 or whatever you wanted. However, it's not just a matter of putting "120" in place of "96" because there are numbers before it and I don't know how they arrive at those for various screen resolutions.  I have two 1024x768s, one 1280x800, and one 1280x1024. I should probably research man pages or xorg.conf documentation.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 28, 2007, 09:33:41 am
I'm writing this from RC2 on my Celeron desktop. When I tried GSlapt today and tried to mark all upgrades, I saw a tooltip that said "Function disabled for VL." Selecting Mark All Upgrades from the menu didn't show them, either.

I haven't noticed other problems in my limited testing except for the ones I've already reported.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on November 28, 2007, 11:10:39 am
Then you're doing very well! I passed 57 several years ago, but even back then my eyes would have rebelled at the small size. In the years since 57 I've had very fancy eye surgery to repair a macular hole, which was pretty successful except that I have a slight permanent central vision defect in that eye. It later developed a cataract as a side effect of the surgery and I had cataract surgery a few years ago. That was also very successful, but it can't do anything about the central vision defect. My other eye is severely presbyopic, and while glasses help a lot with that, my eyes have such a great difference in vision that glasses can't get them totally in sync.

I had cataract surgery in both eyes about three years ago. The eye hospital in Oxford is one of the best in the world, so I was lucky to  moved here. Since then, my eye sight has been better than any time since my childhood. If nothing else, I'm no longer long sighted.

Quote
I recently noticed the "96 DPI" line in xorg.conf and I expect you could modify it for 120 or whatever you wanted. However, it's not just a matter of putting "120" in place of "96" because there are numbers before it and I don't know how they arrive at those for various screen resolutions.  I have two 1024x768s, one 1280x800, and one 1280x1024. I should probably research man pages or xorg.conf documentation.

 ;D I did a bit of hunting, and found the original article that I used. It should give you enough to calculate the values you need. Have a look here:

http://support.zenwalk.org/index.php?topic=3304.msg18928#msg18928

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on November 28, 2007, 11:18:45 am
I'm writing this from RC2 on my Celeron desktop. When I tried GSlapt today and tried to mark all upgrades, I saw a tooltip that said "Function disabled for VL." Selecting Mark All Upgrades from the menu didn't show them, either.

Same here. At least I've not seen any return of the problem with installing more than one file at a time. I just tried installing a couple of extra packages, which completed without errors.

 ;D It would be nice to be able to select updates though...

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Dweeberkitty on November 28, 2007, 11:27:06 am
The warnings on not to build on systems with proprietary video drivers installed have been made many times before this.

Hmmmm... I never saw them. Was there a packager "announcement" thread for these types of warnings? I didn't see it. I guess I'll have to rebuild because my box is actually using the drivers.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Masta on November 28, 2007, 12:19:22 pm
Ok, I'm just going to be blunt: I really hate that icon. It doesn't give any branding you would expect from a distro, and it just looks...childish or immature.

Couldn't agree more...

Granted I've only seen a screenie, because I still have not installed this release, but I say the icon gots to go!.. No offence, but it just doesn't say "Look at me... I'm a serious OS".
We got a little creative in the vectorlinux-admin chat, here's my take on things:
http://the.headacher.googlepages.com/Ugly_prune_animation.gif

Ps. So far little issues with 5.9 RC2

(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2893/prunejobkeeperur8.gif) (http://imageshack.us)

Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: wcs on November 28, 2007, 08:38:13 pm
Hello, all. Sorry for my absence but I've been incredibly busy.
Just installed the new RC2.

A couple of issues:

When selecting the expert driver install for nvidia, if version 100.14.23 is chosen, the driver is not installed (apparently because the right nvidia-installer file cannot be found). It goes immediately to the end of Xorg configuration, and vesa got automatically selected instead. If any of the other driver versions is selected, everything goes fine. If "latest Nvidia" is selected instead of "expert install", the 100.14.23 driver now installs just fine as well. I replicated this in VASM after installing, and this problem was also present in the first RC1.

Not very important, but still noticeable: The volume control panel in Xfce doesn't seem to work the first time I booted into VL. When the volume is increased, the green bar just shows up momentarily and then disappears (even though sound is working just fine). After a reboot, the green bar now works, but the default control is PCM, not the Front channel. Incidentally, the channels are now labeled as Front, Side, etc... while in VL 5.8, this applet's properties allowed Vol, LineIN, Mic...

Looks like 5.9 is going to be a fantastic release. Thank you to all who contributed to it.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 29, 2007, 01:40:45 pm
I had cataract surgery in both eyes about three years ago. The eye hospital in Oxford is one of the best in the world, so I was lucky to  moved here. Since then, my eye sight has been better than any time since my childhood. If nothing else, I'm no longer long sighted.

Cataract surgery can make an amazing difference. The eye from which I had the cataract removed would be almost like it was when I was young were it not for the slight central vision defect. An excellent retina specialist did the macular hole surgery and the outcome was very good, since sometimes this surgery doesn't improve anything or brings just slight improvement.

Quote
I did a bit of hunting, and found the original article that I used. It should give you enough to calculate the values you need. Have a look here:

http://support.zenwalk.org/index.php?topic=3304.msg18928#msg18928

Thanks VERY much for that. I'm going to give it a try once we're finished with testing for 5.9.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 29, 2007, 01:54:52 pm
WARNING!

If you're using Opera's e-mail client, the beta version of Opera installed with RC2 will convert your e-mail files to a new format that can't be read by the old version of Opera. This is *very* important if you share those e-mail files with Windows or with other computers on a network. If you use the Opera beta and convert the files (which must be converted in order to work with the new version of Opera), you will have to update all Operas with which you share the files, whether Linux or Windows. Opera does warn you it has to convert the files and gives you the opportunity to decline, but it's not crystal-clear that the conversion is one way and your files will no longer be readable in non-beta versions of Opera.

My brain was out to lunch when I got asked about the conversion and I foolishly said "yes," only to find the files unreadable in Opera for Windows (not the beta version). Fortunately, I have those e-mail files on three other computers so it was a simple matter of copying the unconverted files from another computer.

I then uninstalled the beta Opera from RC2 and downloaded and installed Opera 9.24, the current version. The mail files are now readable on all my computers. Crisis averted.

Since Opera is my sole e-mail client, I've decided to hold off on betas until the official new release is out. I wonder if it's wise to include the Opera beta in the new VL, given the consequences across operating systems and computers? Unless someone wants to use a beta version on *all* machines (I wouldn't want to do that), installing the beta Opera will make the files unshareable.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on November 29, 2007, 11:28:58 pm
I noticed that when I start mc in xterm it does not show anymore the usual white on blue instead unreadable colors unless bg is set to black and fg to white that is mc -b which I don't like. The same started to happen in VL5.8 and I strongly suspect it is due to aterm which I had installed from Uelsk's making.

I now took the .mc/ini from slackware and all is back to normal meaning mc starts in its standard white on blue in xterm. I uninstalled as well this aterm which caused a few other problems as already reported and reinstalled only the /usr/bin/aterm bit and it behaves normal now. Does not mess with my .bashrc for example.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on November 30, 2007, 12:38:31 am
I lost my sound!

r@~:$ alsamixer

alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device

Doing vasm sound it goes through the motion detects my soundcard and asks me if I want to modify modprobe.d/sound as done before I click on yes and there is no more sound.

It ends:
Now ALSA is ready to use.
 For adjustment of volumes, use your favorite mixer.

Have a lot of fun!

Sorry, no sound, no fun.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: lagagnon on November 30, 2007, 09:06:31 am
I lost my sound!
Do you mean that at one time with your VL5.9 install you actually did have sound? Or with VL5.9 you have never had sound working with your audio card in that machine? Did you do any upgrades in between installing 5.9 and noticing your sound was not working? Please be more specific so we can help you.

Also please supply output from the following commands:

lspci
lsmod

thanks!

Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Colonel Panic on November 30, 2007, 09:44:11 am
WARNING!
If you're using Opera's e-mail client, the beta version of Opera installed with RC2 will convert your e-mail files to a new format that can't be read by the old version of Opera. This is *very* important if you share those e-mail files with Windows or with other computers on a network. If you use the Opera beta and convert the files (which must be converted in order to work with the new version of Opera), you will have to update all Operas with which you share the files, whether Linux or Windows. Opera does warn you it has to convert the files and gives you the opportunity to decline, but it's not crystal-clear that the conversion is one way and your files will no longer be readable in non-beta versions of Opera.


Hi, I think this unwelcome feature of the newer version of Opera deserves a new thread. I've stuck with the old version of Opera (9.10) anyway because I don't need or particularly want Speed Dial; its utility is pretty marginal IMO if you don't have broadband.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: easuter on November 30, 2007, 11:54:18 am
Today I ran ino something strange: I had to click on the "Quit" button four times until the shutdown pop-up would appear....
Anyone else had the same problem?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: exeterdad on November 30, 2007, 12:05:26 pm
Has anyone tried making a chroot of this release? I extracted all the required bulks, X11 and dev from optional, and no other packages.  I was able to go into chroot fine.  Did ldconfig and fc-config.  But it doesn't seem to connect to network.  Soooo....  slapt-get won't work for packaging. 5.8 would work right out of the box.  Any ideas?  I'd like to get back to packaging with clean chroot ASAP rather than having to do real fresh installs. I need to be able to do non packaging things too.  ;D

Edit: Trying to do a wget download as a test.  Doesn't seem to resolve.  Ping doesn't work either. I dunno  ::)

Edit again: I copied over my /etc/resolve.conf and /etc/hosts and all is well.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nightflier on November 30, 2007, 12:09:41 pm
Today I ran ino something strange: I had to click on the "Quit" button four times until the shutdown pop-up would appear....
Anyone else had the same problem?

This has been around since the beta versions:
http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4506.msg29532#msg29532
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on November 30, 2007, 12:22:27 pm
Today I ran ino something strange: I had to click on the "Quit" button four times until the shutdown pop-up would appear....
Anyone else had the same problem?

That has been mentioned before.. I think its a general Xfce bug. I've had it happen a few times with Vl 5.9, but also had it happen with Zenwalk.

The Zenwalk snapshot that I'm running alongside VL is using Xfce 4.4.2. So far, I've not had the problem with it. Maybe the Xfce devs have finally nailed it.

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 30, 2007, 02:01:16 pm
I've stuck with the old version of Opera (9.10) anyway because I don't need or particularly want Speed Dial; its utility is pretty marginal IMO if you don't have broadband.

I'm using Opera 9.24. I LOVE Speed Dial! When I first heard about it, I thought "ho-hum." But as I've used it I've come to consider it something I wouldn't want to be without. It's a nice intermediate spot between tabs you keep open all the time and bookmarks. Since you have to start a new tab anyway if you want to go to a new site, with SpeedDial you just click on the place you want to go. It has a nice thumbnail view of the site, so you even find it fast.

I do have broadband--another thing I don't think I could live without. I would never consider moving anywhere where broadband wasn't available. It would be like living someplace without electricity. Of course, there are places where broadband is rare. Anybody there has my deepest sympathy and I hope that changes rapidly. I'm in a rural area and it's near-miraculous that we've had broadband available for about six years. Our phone company wanted it to be available to 100% of its all-rural base and worked hard at getting the necessary equipment set up.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on November 30, 2007, 02:10:51 pm
I've installed RC2 on my older Celeron laptop, which has Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics. xorg.conf installed the Intel 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device and yesterday everything was working fine.

Today I turned on the computer and XFce came up with the desktop icons invisible, the text nearly invisible, and text and icons on the desktop menu nearly invisible. They appeared to all be a very light gray that barely showed up against any background, light or dark. This happened in both user accounts, though yesterday I had used only one.

I rebooted but that didn't help. Finally, I changed the driver to vesa and everything looks fine now.

What happened? Is there a way to fix this?
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: newt on November 30, 2007, 02:15:15 pm
I've stuck with the old version of Opera (9.10) anyway because I don't need or particularly want Speed Dial; its utility is pretty marginal IMO if you don't have broadband.

I'm using Opera 9.24. I LOVE Speed Dial! When I first heard about it, I thought "ho-hum." But as I've used it I've come to consider it something I wouldn't want to be without. It's a nice intermediate spot between tabs you keep open all the time and bookmarks. Since you have to start a new tab anyway if you want to go to a new site, with SpeedDial you just click on the place you want to go. It has a nice thumbnail view of the site, so you even find it fast.

I, also, have not begun using speeddial, however I do use the latest stable release of Opera.  Granny makes some good points regarding speeddials use - I guess I'll have to give it a whirl.  But I've strayed from my point... point being that if you don't want to use speeddial simply click it away with the "Hide speed dial" option - pretty easy. Screenshot link: http://operawatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/speeddial1.png
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: caitlyn on November 30, 2007, 09:22:13 pm
I'm now running RC2 on my five year old Toshiba Satellite 1805-S204, 1GHz Celeron processor, 512MB RAM, 20GB HDD.  There are still two very significant bugs in the installer that I've run across:

1. Installer:  Grub is still a mess.   Every Linux partition not assigned a mount point gets an entry whether or not an OS is installed there.  Worse, if there is an OS there (my system currently has three installed distros) it gets them wrong too and doesn't correctly detect the initrd file.  Even Vector Linux isn't properly labeled!  We'd be better off with just lilo than this result for grub, IMHO.  Here is the relevant portion of the /boot/grub/menu.lst file generated by the installer:

Quote
# Linux bootable partition config begins
  title Linux on (/dev/hda1)
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=791 splash=silent
  initrd /boot/initrd
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
  title Linux on (/dev/hda5)
  root (hd0,4)
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro vga=791 splash=silent
  initrd /boot/initrd
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
  title Linux on (/dev/hda6)
  root (hd0,5)
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 ro vga=791 splash=silent
  initrd /boot/initrd
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
  title Linux on (/dev/hda7)
  root (hd0,6)
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda7 ro vga=791 splash=silent
  initrd /boot/initrd
# Linux bootable partition config ends

Here is what my working menu.lst looks like:

Quote
title         WolvixHunter-1.1.0
root         (hd0,4)
kernel         /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro vga=791 splash=silent
initrd         /boot/initrd.splash
savedefault
boot

title         AliXe 0.11b
root         (hd0,5)
kernel         /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 ro vga=791
boot

title         Vector Linux 5.9
root         (hd0,0)
kernel         /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=791 splash=silent
initrd         /boot/initrd
boot

I don't expect grub to correctly label other distros besides VL.  I do expect the installer to recognize where a valid distro is and isn't installed and to create a proper menu entry.  Most other distros do this just fine.

2.  X Configuration:  Still wrong with my Trident CyberBlade XP chipset on this laptop.  I get a mini window with lots of black space all around.  Slackware 12 does the same thing, BTW, but some other Slackware based distros (Zenwalk, AliXe, Wolvix) get it right.  AliXe uses Zenwalk's vconf utility before starting X.  If we could integrate vconf into the installer that would solve the problem.  I don't know how Wolvix does it but I could do some digging.

Relevant sections of the xorg.conf file generated by VL:

Quote
Section "Monitor"
 DisplaySize 269 201 # 96 DPI @ 1024x768
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName    "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 37-48
VertRefresh 72-75
EndSection

Identifier  "Card0"
Driver      "trident"
VendorName  "Trident Microsystems"
BoardName   "CyberBlade XPAi1"
BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

A correct xorg.conf file for my system:

Quote
Section "Monitor"
   Identifier     "Monitor1"
   VendorName   "TOS"
   ModelName    ""
     HorizSync 31.5 - 50.0
     VertRefresh 40-90
     Option "UseEdidFreqs" "1"
   Option       "DPMS"
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

Section "Device"
   Identifier     "Videocard1"
   VendorName  "Trident Microsystems"
   BoardName   "CyberBlade XPAi1"
   Driver     "trident"
   BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection


Note that the error is in the monitor section, not the device section.

3.  Not a bug, but... the ugly prune has got to go!

The good news:  performance is excellent and everything I've tried so far has worked.  I need to do more testing, of course.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on November 30, 2007, 10:48:47 pm
I lost my sound!
Do you mean that at one time with your VL5.9 install you actually did have sound? Or with VL5.9 you have never had sound working with your audio card in that machine? Did you do any upgrades in between installing 5.9 and noticing your sound was not working? Please be more specific so we can help you.

Also please supply output from the following commands:

lspci
lsmod

thanks!



I always had sound in VL5.9-* and it is back after a reboot. What happened I did a telinit 1 then a telinit 2 and that caused the problem. I just repeated it and sure enough the sound was bust. I did not realize it yesterday since I did not access sound for a while after that telinit.

BTW in the menu of fluxbox-Multimedia audacious is still showing instead of xmms.

Thanks and regards.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: MikeCindi on December 01, 2007, 07:32:32 am
I would have to agree that the grape icon doesn't fit. If the dev team is determined that it should all the other icons need to change...but please don't do it as the default setup.

As with the other RCs (and 5.8 too) I am unable to login to a console after logging into any of the available GUIs. Also after doing more checking I am only able to login to whatever specific choice I make first whether GUI or console (i.e. if I login to jwm then want to change to xfce I am unable to do so). To change the environment I have to reboot. I have not yet tried skipping the login manager but I suspect my problem is there.

BTW is there a way to fix the problem with the smileys? Whenever an 8 is followed by a ) you get 8). Perhaps now that VL is moving on from the 5.8 series I won't be so annoyed by it. Of course VL 5.8 is 8).
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: lagagnon on December 01, 2007, 07:44:20 am
BTW is there a way to fix the problem with the smileys?
That is just a forum problem, and it can be fixed by choosing the Additional Option, Don't Use Smileys. 
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: exeterdad on December 01, 2007, 08:23:18 am
Quote
BTW is there a way to fix the problem with the smileys? Whenever an 8 is followed by a ) you get Cool. Perhaps now that VL is moving on from the 5.8 series I won't be so annoyed by it. Of course VL 5.8 is Cool

I've been running into that problem a lot in the packagers forum as I'm often using a ) after a 5.8.
I resolved that by adding spaces. ( 5.8 ).
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: caitlyn on December 01, 2007, 10:47:10 am
Additional bugs to report:

1>  I think this has already been reported, but... once, when choosing K3B from the Xfce menu the application didn't start and my panel (taskbar) disappeared.  It's worked fine the rest of the time.

2>  Reboot doesn't work on my Toshiba Satellite 1805-S204.  The system goes through the shutdown process (stopping the OS) and then hangs with a black screen and power on.  Executing a shutdown rather than a reboot does work correctly.  Ubuntu and its clones get this right  while most other distros don't.

Some nitpicking/niggles/annoyances:

1>  It would be really nice to be able to assign a non-standard mount point to a partition during installation.
2>  It would be really nice to be able to select a system default language/locale other than English/US during install.  I keep thinking a Canadian distro would at least offer French/CA and French/FR as alternatives.
3>  k3b doesn't support taking a bunch of MP3 files, converting them to CD audio, and burning a CD.  GnomeBaker does and for that reason alone I think I'd prefer it as the heavyweight CD burner.
4>  It would be nice if Xfce were optional for people who prefer fluxbox or jwm.
5>  It would be nice if HAL and VL-Hot used the same mount points for the same devices.

I'll post more as I find things.


Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: wcs on December 01, 2007, 12:21:35 pm
Quote
k3b doesn't support taking a bunch of MP3 files, converting them to CD audio, and burning a CD.  GnomeBaker does and for that reason alone I think I'd prefer it as the heavyweight CD burner.

k3b does that as well, so far as I know. In fact, I just burned an audio CD like that yesterday.
I'm not sure about gnomebaker's dependencies, but I think k3b only requires kdelibs (or little more than that), so that might be a plus for k3b.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 01, 2007, 07:03:38 pm
2.  X Configuration:  Still wrong with my Trident CyberBlade XP chipset on this laptop.  I get a mini window with lots of black space all around.  Slackware 12 does the same thing, BTW, but some other Slackware based distros (Zenwalk, AliXe, Wolvix) get it right.  AliXe uses Zenwalk's vconf utility before starting X.  If we could integrate vconf into the installer that would solve the problem.  I don't know how Wolvix does it but I could do some digging.

Relevant sections of the xorg.conf file generated by VL:

Quote
Section "Monitor"
 DisplaySize 269 201 # 96 DPI @ 1024x768
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName    "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 37-48
VertRefresh 72-75
EndSection

Identifier  "Card0"
Driver      "trident"
VendorName  "Trident Microsystems"
BoardName   "CyberBlade XPAi1"
BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

A correct xorg.conf file for my system:

Quote
Section "Monitor"
   Identifier     "Monitor1"
   VendorName   "TOS"
   ModelName    ""
     HorizSync 31.5 - 50.0
     VertRefresh 40-90
     Option "UseEdidFreqs" "1"
   Option       "DPMS"
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

Section "Device"
   Identifier     "Videocard1"
   VendorName  "Trident Microsystems"
   BoardName   "CyberBlade XPAi1"
   Driver     "trident"
   BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Note that the error is in the monitor section, not the device section.
caitlyn,
I have been looking into AliXe to see how it gets the numbers it had for your monitor.
in vconf it has generic HorizSync and VertRefresh values  built in as defaults if it cant find them by probing.
I am not sure why the generic values work better for your monitor than the ones VL finds by probing.
I booted the AliXe cd here and out of the 4 boxes it only got a working X on one of them. It got me 3 black monitors with out of range messages.

I just wanted to let you know we are trying to come up with something that will work there.
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 01, 2007, 09:13:06 pm
On my Turion laptop, I'm using VLwifi to get my WPA connection going. As I already reported, I have to do the whole setup over every time I boot.

Today I again had the problem of the wireless connection simply disappearing all of a sudden. I couldn't restore it by running VLwifi again. I had to reboot in order to get my connection going again.

This happened once before a few days ago, but it's been solid until today.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 01, 2007, 09:20:30 pm
GrannyGeek,
can you try adding modprobe ndiswrapper to the front of /etc/rc.d/rc.inet3
and see if it will work after a reboot?

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on December 02, 2007, 11:35:47 am
2>  It would be really nice to be able to select a system default language/locale other than English/US during install.  I keep thinking a Canadian distro would at least offer French/CA and French/FR as alternatives.

It certainly would be nice. I have had to get into the habbit of going to /etc/profile.d and editing lang.sh every time I do a fresh install (which has been fairly frequently with the 5.9 beta/rc stuff...). It took me a while to work out that if I didn't I'd never be able to get Abiword to use UK spelling.

I notice that Zenwalk has a 'locale' setting as part of its install. Looking at /etc/profile.d/lang.sh in the Zenwalk snapshot give me this:

Code: [Select]
export LANG=en_GB.utf8
which must have been set when I selected en_GB during install.

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: BlueMage on December 02, 2007, 02:52:35 pm
Ok, I have gt something very screwy going on here.  I suppose the best way to describe it would be ghost-text - the text isn't properly displayed and instead appears splotchy and seethrough.  Quite disturbing, and I'm only able to amek this post by virtue of the fact that I can navigate the forums fairly well.  I'd like to add more information, but I can't seem to do so reliably.

This appears to be different from what GrannyGeek described - the parts of the text I can make out appear to be fully black, and the icons and taskbar also suffer from the same ghostliness.

EDIT:  Switching to vesa appears to solve the issue.  'course, now my mouse wheel isn't working, so I'm going to go digging.

EDIT2:  Also, nix the prune plz.

EDIT3:  Had to hit Quit 5 times in menu to get Quit dialog to come up.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nightflier on December 02, 2007, 03:40:06 pm
Installed on my laptop, a cheap Acer Aspire 3680.

First impression is good. It set up my display/Intel integrated graphics to 1280X800 and enabled hardware acceleration.

To my great surprise I found the integrated wifi working. Surprised because it stopped working a few months ago. Booted back to PCLinuxOS and it's still inoperative there. I even re-installed Vista on it to test, and it did not work under that either. Maybe the ath_pci module in VL is newer and somehow gets it working, who knows? I can't get wpa-psk working on it, but that is not a problem right now.

Sound shows up as hda-intel 82801g realtek ALC883. At first I got no sound. Trying to raise volume using the panel icon did not work, it would immediately drop back down to 0%. I enabled all the sliders in the mixer and found that raising the "Surround" volume brought the speakers to life. With that one maxed out, other apps (xine, xmms and mplayer) gained control over the volume via the PCM slider. There remains a problem with the panel mixer applet, though. On shutdown I see error: Unable to find simple control 'Master',0

My optical drive was not configured correctly. Changing reference in fstab from /dev/cdrom to /dev/sr0 fixed it.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: M0E-lnx on December 02, 2007, 04:31:34 pm
i own that same laptop. Good to know wireless works. I've never been able to get a good sound configuration on any other release but i hope this one gets it all worked out. How is suspend looking?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nightflier on December 02, 2007, 07:57:22 pm
I never used suspend, Linux or Windows. Will tinker with it some.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: M0E-lnx on December 03, 2007, 06:00:04 am
Does yours also have the broadcom wireless chip?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nightflier on December 03, 2007, 06:15:45 am
I'm showing an Atheros AR5005G wireless chip.

- When it comes to suspend, what steps would you perform to set up and use it?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: M0E-lnx on December 03, 2007, 06:44:48 am
- When it comes to suspend, what steps would you perform to set up and use it?

I still dunno... I'm used to just closing the lid ;)
Quote

I'm showing an Atheros AR5005G wireless chip.
Dang!...

That means I might still have to fight mine :(
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nightflier on December 03, 2007, 06:57:26 am
I still dunno... I'm used to just closing the lid ;)

Allrighty.. I tried that and yes, the lid will close  :D 

Right before it goes shut I see the screen turn off. Opening lid turns it back on. With lid closed the cooling fan keeps running on low and hot air comes out the vents. I did enable acpi during install.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nightflier on December 03, 2007, 08:36:35 am
I had some fun adding KDE to RC2. Initially there were several problems. I got no window border/title bars, the Koffice apps wouldn't launch, but after some reboots and switching between XFCE and KDE things just started working.

One request: To be able to go to system:/media and mount my optical drive, I need HAL enabled.
In 5.8 it works without HAL (I prefer VL-Hot). Could it be so in 5.9 also?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nightflier on December 03, 2007, 08:44:25 am
Another suggestion: How about backgrounding dhcpcd on startup? That could shave a few seconds off the boot time.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: M0E-lnx on December 03, 2007, 12:04:04 pm
Allrighty.. I tried that and yes, the lid will close  :D 

Aight!... I guess I should have seen that one coming ;)

my old Pseudo-1.7 install does turn the screen off when I close the lid... but like you said, the fan keeps working, hot air keeps coming out of the vents... and yes... the battery keeps draining.

I was kinda hoping it would go into suspend when I closed the lid, and resume when I press the power button after a suspend.

so I guess what we're looking for would be a suspend / resume procedure.

There have to be some commands that need to be ran... and I imagine you tie one of them to the lid switch and the other to the boot manager... but not sure how to do that
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 03, 2007, 12:35:35 pm
GrannyGeek,
can you try adding modprobe ndiswrapper to the front of /etc/rc.d/rc.inet3
and see if it will work after a reboot?

You are a genius! I did what you said and now when I boot, my wireless is up and running--no configuration necessary.

I'm downloading RC3 right now. We'll see how wireless goes with that. I'm expecting great things. :) I also hope my sound will work (again) with this release candidate.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: MikeCindi on December 03, 2007, 06:13:06 pm
I was kinda hoping it would go into suspend when I closed the lid, and resume when I press the power button after a suspend.

so I guess what we're looking for would be a suspend / resume procedure.

There have to be some commands that need to be ran... and I imagine you tie one of them to the lid switch and the other to the boot manager... but not sure how to do that
With TuxOnIce you will need to define where the suspend image is to be located (swap or file; if you use swap space you probably need a swap partition as large are your RAM) and use the hibernate script from here: http://www.tuxonice.net/downloads/
I'm don't know how to activate that with lid closure although it is probably possible.
HTH,
Mike
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on December 03, 2007, 06:52:57 pm
I'm don't know how to activate that with lid closure although it is probably possible.
HTH,
Mike

I think is possible using acpid (http://sman.informatik.htw-dresden.de/man/ALL/acpid.html)

You have to make a configuration file which will match acpi events with a cli script. The acpi events are logged in /var/log/messages, so a tail -f could give some clue if a acpi messagge is sent at lid closure.
Check http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/power-management-guide.xml
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc2 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 03, 2007, 07:10:05 pm
easuter has provided some scripts.

/etc/acpi/acpi_handler.sh
Code: [Select]
#!/bin/sh

# Default acpi script that takes an entry for all actions



IFS=${IFS}/

set $@

LIDSTATE=$(/bin/sed -ne "/state:/{s/^state:[ ]*\([a-zA-Z]*\)$/\1/p;q}" \

/proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state)



case "$1" in

  button)

    case "$2" in

power)

if [ "$LIDSTATE" == "open" ]; then

/usr/sbin/presusp

    hibernate -F /etc/hibernate/ram.conf

elif [ "$LIDSTATE" == "closed" ]; then

hibernate -F /etc/hibernate/ususpend-ram.conf

fi

         ;;

lid)

if [ "$LIDSTATE" == "closed" ]; then

/usr/sbin/presusp

hibernate -F /etc/hibernate/ram.conf

elif [ "$LIDSTATE" == "open" ]; then

hibernate -F /etc/hibernate/ususpend-ram.conf

fi

;;

*) logger "ACPI action $2 is not defined"

         ;;

    esac

    ;;

  *)

    logger "ACPI group $1 / action $2 is not defined"

    ;;

esac

/etc/rc.d/rc.acpid
Code: [Select]
#!/bin/sh

# Start/stop/restart acpid.



# Start acpid:

acpid_start() {

  if [ -x /usr/sbin/acpid -a -d /proc/acpi ]; then

    echo "Starting ACPI daemon:  /usr/sbin/acpid"

    /usr/sbin/acpid

  fi

}



# Stop acpid:

acpid_stop() {

  killall acpid

}



# Restart acpid:

acpid_restart() {

  acpid_stop

  sleep 1

  acpid_start

}



case "$1" in

'start')

  acpid_start

  ;;

'stop')

  acpid_stop

  ;;

'restart')

  acpid_restart

  ;;

*)

  echo "usage $0 start|stop|restart"

esac

after adding those and setting them executable you will need to add acpid to /etc/rc.d/rc.M like this
Code: [Select]
## Hardware initialisation
echocl "Initializing hardware" cyan
for RC in modules pnp acpid serial parallel alsa cdrom samba dbus; do

you also need the hibernate scripts