I never thought I'd use my 1000th post to say just this, but here it is anyway...
The link works here ;)
We changed the menu icon, please give us your honest opinion about it.
We changed the menu icon, please give us your honest opinion about it.
kernel is fixed for tuxonice. let us know if it works.We have tuxonice?
We have tuxonice?
For some reason DHCP seems to be giving me grief. Might be my router, but wasn't a issue before. Each boot I'd run Vasm and reconfigure and I'd get connected. But it wouldn't stick. On boot I'd see the "Setting up basic network" text and it would hang for quite a while, then continue to boot. Setting as static works, and works FAST. We'll see if anyone else notices anything.this might be the good old switching eth devices bug ;D There was a howto,which i had to btw use back at the pseudo cd
Not sure that I have the hardware to test other things that have been worked on. It's look'n good.
But I always feel like I'm being watched for some reason. :D
lagagnon, are you using VL-hot or HAL to manage devices?
We changed the menu icon, please give us your honest opinion about it.
Thanks,
Uelsk8s
ISO is here: http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-5.9/iso-release/VL5.9-STD-RC2.iso
vmount now mounts ntfs with ntfs-3g so please give that a try
VLwifi will now try to add a windows driver to ndiswrapper if no wireless connection is found
kernel is fixed for tuxonice. let us know if it works.
We changed the menu icon, please give us your honest opinion about it.
Ok, I'm just going to be blunt: I really hate that icon. It doesn't give any branding you would expect from a distro, and it just looks...childish or immature.
Cdrecord has no permission to open the device
you may use k3bsetup2 to solve this problem
Quotevmount now mounts ntfs with ntfs-3g so please give that a try
:( Still got the same problem with vmount. It initally identifies /dev/hda1 as HPFS/NTFS, but adds it to fstab as XFS.. Mounting using 'mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /mnt/win-d' correctly mounts the partition as NTFS. I have no idea what is causing that problem...
As a matter of interest, what do I need in fstab to use ntfs-3g to mount it?
probepart 2>/dev/null | grep -e "^/dev" | grep -v " Ext'd" | grep -v "raid autodetect" | sed 's/*/ /'
mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION"`
FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
If you could unmount /dev/hda1PARTITION=/dev/hda1
mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION"`
FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
echo $FSTYPE
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win-d ntfs-3g defaults,allow_other,umask=0,users,nls=utf8,noexec 0 0
Lets try and disect this.
from vmount the first check for hda1 comes from thisCode: [Select]probepart 2>/dev/null | grep -e "^/dev" | grep -v " Ext'd" | grep -v "raid autodetect" | sed 's/*/ /'
after that it gets the filesystem from thisCode: [Select]mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
If you could unmount /dev/hda1
LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION"`
FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
and then run this and post output back here I would appreciate it.Code: [Select]PARTITION=/dev/hda1
mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION"`
FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
echo $FSTYPE
root:# umount win-c
t-40vl://mnt
root:# PARTITION=/dev/hda1
t-40vl://mnt
root:# mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
t-40vl://mnt
root:# LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION"`
t-40vl://mnt
root:# FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
t-40vl://mnt
root:# echo $FSTYPE
xfs
red2:$ mount
/dev/hda12 on / type xfs (rw)
/dev/hda10 on /home type xfs (rw)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/hda5 on /mnt/win-d type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=000)
/dev/hda6 on /mnt/os2-e type hpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/hda7 on /mnt/os2-f type hpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/hda8 on /mnt/zboot type ext2 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/hda9 on /mnt/os2-g type jfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
/dev/hda1 on /mnt/hd type ntfs (rw)
the correct fstab line for hda1 should beCode: [Select]/dev/hda1 /mnt/win-d ntfs-3g defaults,allow_other,umask=0,users,nls=utf8,noexec 0 0
toothandnail,
I suspect your hda12 is getting in the way
try this "mount | grep -e /dev/hda1"
I think you will get output from hda1 and hda12
red2:$ mount | grep -e /dev/hda1
/dev/hda12 on / type xfs (rw)
/dev/hda10 on /home type xfs (rw)
/dev/hda1 on /mnt/win-d type fuseblk (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,allow_other,blksize=4096)
PARTITION=/dev/hda1
mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION "`
FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
echo $FSTYPE
We got a little creative in the vectorlinux-admin chat, here's my take on things:Ok, I'm just going to be blunt: I really hate that icon. It doesn't give any branding you would expect from a distro, and it just looks...childish or immature.
Couldn't agree more...
Granted I've only seen a screenie, because I still have not installed this release, but I say the icon gots to go!.. No offence, but it just doesn't say "Look at me... I'm a serious OS".
We got a little creative in the vectorlinux-admin chat, here's my take on things::D
http://the.headacher.googlepages.com/Ugly_prune_animation.gif
toothandnail,
can you try this code below and see if it fixes it?Code: [Select]PARTITION=/dev/hda1
mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION "`
FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
echo $FSTYPE
root:# PARTITION=/dev/hda1
t-40vl://mnt
root:# mount $PARTITION /mnt/hd
t-40vl://mnt
root:# LINE=`mount | grep -e "$PARTITION "`
t-40vl://mnt
root:# FSTYPE=`echo $LINE | cut -f5 -d ' '`
t-40vl://mnt
root:# echo $FSTYPE
ntfs
IAs for the "Start" button, I hate it! It's ugly and I can't even tell what it is except for some kind of eyes. Hey, are you all using 640x480? On a modern resolution the icon is too small to know what it's supposed to be. Also, the default font sizes are WAY too small. Even with qtconfig and adjustments in XFce's Settings Manager, I still get type so small that I can barely make it out on some screens that don't comply with qtconfig or XFce settings. I notice xorg.conf's monitor section has a
DisplaySize 338 211 # 96 DPI @ 1280x800
line. It seems there should be a way to have that adjusted to 120 DPI as in Windows' Large Fonts. Hey, I haven't used 96 DPI since I got a 1024x768 monitor way back in the last century! Being able to set the font default at 120 DPI instead of 96 would make all the fonts larger at the outset with the same opportunities to customize the font sizes as we have now.
Well, now the download stoped at 99%. Anyone having the same problem?
;D Shows how different people's reqirements are. The first thing I do on installing Vector is to reduce the size of the desktop icons, the size of the desktop fonts, then all the other fonts on the system. My laptop is less than cutting edge technology - only good for 1024x768 and I find all the fonts much too large...
As to being able to adjust the font DPI, that isn't too far off. Have a look a this:
http://www.users.waitrose.com/%7Epaulm/files/xfce4.png
OK the good news, my i810 graphics were configures without a problem, so I booted into a nice Xfce desktop.Lyn can you try launching xterm (ALT+F2) and then run terminal and some other apps like htop after typing this
The bad news, I can't launch a terminal - from an icon on a panel or from the menu. Also I can't launch a terminal ap like Htop. The result is the same, chashes X. This is all in Xfce
to get xmms to do doublesize you have to start it with this command
"export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 && xmms"
we should probably add that to the launcher
let me know if it works for you.
1) Mplayer doesn't play DVD's, it either says "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device." or nothing at all, depending on what video driver I choose .
OK the good news, my i810 graphics were configures without a problem, so I booted into a nice Xfce desktop.Lyn can you try launching xterm (ALT+F2) and then run terminal and some other apps like htop after typing this
The bad news, I can't launch a terminal - from an icon on a panel or from the menu. Also I can't launch a terminal ap like Htop. The result is the same, chashes X. This is all in Xfce
export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
Thanks,
Uelsk8s
---snip---
Kdelibs gives unmet dependency, it complains about vlnvidia package. All kde apps gives 'undefined symbols' if you don't upgrade kdelibs from the testing repo. I am sure it worked before, I installed kde from the repo in the previous releases, something went wrong with the kdelibs package.
This is one that packagers will have to watch closely.---snip---
Kdelibs gives unmet dependency, it complains about vlnvidia package. All kde apps gives 'undefined symbols' if you don't upgrade kdelibs from the testing repo. I am sure it worked before, I installed kde from the repo in the previous releases, something went wrong with the kdelibs package.
I built KDE 3.5.8 for VL 5.9 on a different box from the one I normally use. That particular box had the vlnvidia package installed. That's why the problems. I'll rebuild kdelibs on a box that does not have the proprietary nvidia drivers on it.
Thanks for pointing this out,
John
P.S.: To packagers: try not to build packages on boxes that have the proprietary video drivers for reasons that are made obvious from the quote above. ;-)
The Multimedia Bonus Disc is an "addon" to VL. To install, one simply needs to open the CD within VL5.9 and click on the "Install" icon. It doesn't require any additional partitions, but merely contains a very nice selection of multimedia packages that get installed on your existing VL5.9 installation.
OK the good news, my i810 graphics were configures without a problem, so I booted into a nice Xfce desktop.Lyn can you try launching xterm (ALT+F2) and then run terminal and some other apps like htop after typing this
The bad news, I can't launch a terminal - from an icon on a panel or from the menu. Also I can't launch a terminal ap like Htop. The result is the same, chashes X. This is all in Xfce
export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
Thanks,
Uelsk8s
How old are you? :) At some point in life, the eyes start to go and the fonts get bigger. I passed that point about twenty years ago.
---snip---
Kdelibs gives unmet dependency, it complains about vlnvidia package. All kde apps gives 'undefined symbols' if you don't upgrade kdelibs from the testing repo. I am sure it worked before, I installed kde from the repo in the previous releases, something went wrong with the kdelibs package.
I built KDE 3.5.8 for VL 5.9 on a different box from the one I normally use. That particular box had the vlnvidia package installed. That's why the problems. I'll rebuild kdelibs on a box that does not have the proprietary nvidia drivers on it.
Thanks for pointing this out,
John
P.S.: To packagers: try not to build packages on boxes that have the proprietary video drivers for reasons that are made obvious from the quote above. ;-)
This is one that packagers will have to watch closely.
The vlnvidia package has the source and libs for building and installing the proprietary nvidia driver. makeslapt and requiredbuilder Are seeing the libs in this package and assuming that they are the ones that the system is using.
The vlnvidia package should not be installed on package build boxes even if the driver is not installed into the system. if it is you will get a fake dependency on it.
The Multimedia Bonus Disc is an "addon" to VL. To install, one simply needs to open the CD within VL5.9 and click on the "Install" icon. It doesn't require any additional partitions, but merely contains a very nice selection of multimedia packages that get installed on your existing VL5.9 installation.
Thanks. That's what I was hoping. Can you pick which packages you want if you click on the Install icon?
--GrannyGeek
P.S.: To packagers: try not to build packages on boxes that have the proprietary video drivers for reasons that are made obvious from the quote above. ;-)Uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh.....So what should I do? :-\
P.S.: To packagers: try not to build packages on boxes that have the proprietary video drivers for reasons that are made obvious from the quote above. ;-)Uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh.....So what should I do? :-\
Now that I've built some 120 packages on a system that has Nvidia drivers installed. Do I have to rebuild and resubmit everything? Isn't there some other way of resolving this? Such as adding vlnvidia to the repos? Thanks for the warning ahead of time. ;)
Probably what will end up happening later is the installer will open Gslapt and you can choose from there, but I have yet to make that work. Also, the packages will *hopefully* get put into the repos soon and you could choose the packages from there. But, for testing purposes, it's nice to be able to test out everything to make sure it works. Don't worry, individual package selection will be in place before a final release.
;D I had my 57th birthday a little while ago.
Even without the DPI settings available in Xfce 4.4.2, DPI can be forced. I just can't remember how to do it...
Then you're doing very well! I passed 57 several years ago, but even back then my eyes would have rebelled at the small size. In the years since 57 I've had very fancy eye surgery to repair a macular hole, which was pretty successful except that I have a slight permanent central vision defect in that eye. It later developed a cataract as a side effect of the surgery and I had cataract surgery a few years ago. That was also very successful, but it can't do anything about the central vision defect. My other eye is severely presbyopic, and while glasses help a lot with that, my eyes have such a great difference in vision that glasses can't get them totally in sync.
I recently noticed the "96 DPI" line in xorg.conf and I expect you could modify it for 120 or whatever you wanted. However, it's not just a matter of putting "120" in place of "96" because there are numbers before it and I don't know how they arrive at those for various screen resolutions. I have two 1024x768s, one 1280x800, and one 1280x1024. I should probably research man pages or xorg.conf documentation.
I'm writing this from RC2 on my Celeron desktop. When I tried GSlapt today and tried to mark all upgrades, I saw a tooltip that said "Function disabled for VL." Selecting Mark All Upgrades from the menu didn't show them, either.
The warnings on not to build on systems with proprietary video drivers installed have been made many times before this.
We got a little creative in the vectorlinux-admin chat, here's my take on things:Ok, I'm just going to be blunt: I really hate that icon. It doesn't give any branding you would expect from a distro, and it just looks...childish or immature.
Couldn't agree more...
Granted I've only seen a screenie, because I still have not installed this release, but I say the icon gots to go!.. No offence, but it just doesn't say "Look at me... I'm a serious OS".
http://the.headacher.googlepages.com/Ugly_prune_animation.gif
Ps. So far little issues with 5.9 RC2
I had cataract surgery in both eyes about three years ago. The eye hospital in Oxford is one of the best in the world, so I was lucky to moved here. Since then, my eye sight has been better than any time since my childhood. If nothing else, I'm no longer long sighted.
I did a bit of hunting, and found the original article that I used. It should give you enough to calculate the values you need. Have a look here:
http://support.zenwalk.org/index.php?topic=3304.msg18928#msg18928
I lost my sound!Do you mean that at one time with your VL5.9 install you actually did have sound? Or with VL5.9 you have never had sound working with your audio card in that machine? Did you do any upgrades in between installing 5.9 and noticing your sound was not working? Please be more specific so we can help you.
WARNING!
If you're using Opera's e-mail client, the beta version of Opera installed with RC2 will convert your e-mail files to a new format that can't be read by the old version of Opera. This is *very* important if you share those e-mail files with Windows or with other computers on a network. If you use the Opera beta and convert the files (which must be converted in order to work with the new version of Opera), you will have to update all Operas with which you share the files, whether Linux or Windows. Opera does warn you it has to convert the files and gives you the opportunity to decline, but it's not crystal-clear that the conversion is one way and your files will no longer be readable in non-beta versions of Opera.
Today I ran ino something strange: I had to click on the "Quit" button four times until the shutdown pop-up would appear....
Anyone else had the same problem?
Today I ran ino something strange: I had to click on the "Quit" button four times until the shutdown pop-up would appear....
Anyone else had the same problem?
I've stuck with the old version of Opera (9.10) anyway because I don't need or particularly want Speed Dial; its utility is pretty marginal IMO if you don't have broadband.
I've stuck with the old version of Opera (9.10) anyway because I don't need or particularly want Speed Dial; its utility is pretty marginal IMO if you don't have broadband.
I'm using Opera 9.24. I LOVE Speed Dial! When I first heard about it, I thought "ho-hum." But as I've used it I've come to consider it something I wouldn't want to be without. It's a nice intermediate spot between tabs you keep open all the time and bookmarks. Since you have to start a new tab anyway if you want to go to a new site, with SpeedDial you just click on the place you want to go. It has a nice thumbnail view of the site, so you even find it fast.
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux on (/dev/hda1)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=791 splash=silent
initrd /boot/initrd
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux on (/dev/hda5)
root (hd0,4)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro vga=791 splash=silent
initrd /boot/initrd
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux on (/dev/hda6)
root (hd0,5)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 ro vga=791 splash=silent
initrd /boot/initrd
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux on (/dev/hda7)
root (hd0,6)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda7 ro vga=791 splash=silent
initrd /boot/initrd
# Linux bootable partition config ends
title WolvixHunter-1.1.0
root (hd0,4)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro vga=791 splash=silent
initrd /boot/initrd.splash
savedefault
boot
title AliXe 0.11b
root (hd0,5)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 ro vga=791
boot
title Vector Linux 5.9
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=791 splash=silent
initrd /boot/initrd
boot
Section "Monitor"
DisplaySize 269 201 # 96 DPI @ 1024x768
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 37-48
VertRefresh 72-75
EndSection
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "trident"
VendorName "Trident Microsystems"
BoardName "CyberBlade XPAi1"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor1"
VendorName "TOS"
ModelName ""
HorizSync 31.5 - 50.0
VertRefresh 40-90
Option "UseEdidFreqs" "1"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************
# Any number of graphics device sections may be present
Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard1"
VendorName "Trident Microsystems"
BoardName "CyberBlade XPAi1"
Driver "trident"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
I lost my sound!Do you mean that at one time with your VL5.9 install you actually did have sound? Or with VL5.9 you have never had sound working with your audio card in that machine? Did you do any upgrades in between installing 5.9 and noticing your sound was not working? Please be more specific so we can help you.
Also please supply output from the following commands:
lspci
lsmod
thanks!
BTW is there a way to fix the problem with the smileys?That is just a forum problem, and it can be fixed by choosing the Additional Option, Don't Use Smileys.
BTW is there a way to fix the problem with the smileys? Whenever an 8 is followed by a ) you get Cool. Perhaps now that VL is moving on from the 5.8 series I won't be so annoyed by it. Of course VL 5.8 is Cool
k3b doesn't support taking a bunch of MP3 files, converting them to CD audio, and burning a CD. GnomeBaker does and for that reason alone I think I'd prefer it as the heavyweight CD burner.
2. X Configuration: Still wrong with my Trident CyberBlade XP chipset on this laptop. I get a mini window with lots of black space all around. Slackware 12 does the same thing, BTW, but some other Slackware based distros (Zenwalk, AliXe, Wolvix) get it right. AliXe uses Zenwalk's vconf utility before starting X. If we could integrate vconf into the installer that would solve the problem. I don't know how Wolvix does it but I could do some digging.caitlyn,
Relevant sections of the xorg.conf file generated by VL:QuoteSection "Monitor"
DisplaySize 269 201 # 96 DPI @ 1024x768
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 37-48
VertRefresh 72-75
EndSection
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "trident"
VendorName "Trident Microsystems"
BoardName "CyberBlade XPAi1"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
A correct xorg.conf file for my system:QuoteSection "Monitor"Note that the error is in the monitor section, not the device section.
Identifier "Monitor1"
VendorName "TOS"
ModelName ""
HorizSync 31.5 - 50.0
VertRefresh 40-90
Option "UseEdidFreqs" "1"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************
# Any number of graphics device sections may be present
Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard1"
VendorName "Trident Microsystems"
BoardName "CyberBlade XPAi1"
Driver "trident"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
2> It would be really nice to be able to select a system default language/locale other than English/US during install. I keep thinking a Canadian distro would at least offer French/CA and French/FR as alternatives.
export LANG=en_GB.utf8
- When it comes to suspend, what steps would you perform to set up and use it?
Dang!...
I'm showing an Atheros AR5005G wireless chip.
I still dunno... I'm used to just closing the lid ;)
Allrighty.. I tried that and yes, the lid will close :D
GrannyGeek,
can you try adding modprobe ndiswrapper to the front of /etc/rc.d/rc.inet3
and see if it will work after a reboot?
I was kinda hoping it would go into suspend when I closed the lid, and resume when I press the power button after a suspend.With TuxOnIce you will need to define where the suspend image is to be located (swap or file; if you use swap space you probably need a swap partition as large are your RAM) and use the hibernate script from here: http://www.tuxonice.net/downloads/
so I guess what we're looking for would be a suspend / resume procedure.
There have to be some commands that need to be ran... and I imagine you tie one of them to the lid switch and the other to the boot manager... but not sure how to do that
I'm don't know how to activate that with lid closure although it is probably possible.
HTH,
Mike
#!/bin/sh
# Default acpi script that takes an entry for all actions
IFS=${IFS}/
set $@
LIDSTATE=$(/bin/sed -ne "/state:/{s/^state:[ ]*\([a-zA-Z]*\)$/\1/p;q}" \
/proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state)
case "$1" in
button)
case "$2" in
power)
if [ "$LIDSTATE" == "open" ]; then
/usr/sbin/presusp
hibernate -F /etc/hibernate/ram.conf
elif [ "$LIDSTATE" == "closed" ]; then
hibernate -F /etc/hibernate/ususpend-ram.conf
fi
;;
lid)
if [ "$LIDSTATE" == "closed" ]; then
/usr/sbin/presusp
hibernate -F /etc/hibernate/ram.conf
elif [ "$LIDSTATE" == "open" ]; then
hibernate -F /etc/hibernate/ususpend-ram.conf
fi
;;
*) logger "ACPI action $2 is not defined"
;;
esac
;;
*)
logger "ACPI group $1 / action $2 is not defined"
;;
esac
#!/bin/sh
# Start/stop/restart acpid.
# Start acpid:
acpid_start() {
if [ -x /usr/sbin/acpid -a -d /proc/acpi ]; then
echo "Starting ACPI daemon: /usr/sbin/acpid"
/usr/sbin/acpid
fi
}
# Stop acpid:
acpid_stop() {
killall acpid
}
# Restart acpid:
acpid_restart() {
acpid_stop
sleep 1
acpid_start
}
case "$1" in
'start')
acpid_start
;;
'stop')
acpid_stop
;;
'restart')
acpid_restart
;;
*)
echo "usage $0 start|stop|restart"
esac
## Hardware initialisation
echocl "Initializing hardware" cyan
for RC in modules pnp acpid serial parallel alsa cdrom samba dbus; do