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Title: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 03, 2007, 09:33:31 am
Please post all bugs/annoyances for RC3 here:

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nightflier on December 03, 2007, 12:32:38 pm
General praise: I installed it on my desktop, just taking defaults as much as I could along the way. Looks very good, and I like the new menu icon  ;D

One glitch: eth0 did not come up, but vasmcc woke it up.

Speaking of vasmcc.. do we need the > X-window > Display Manager? Are there plans to include choices there?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 03, 2007, 12:46:46 pm
you never know someone may want to use XDM  :)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nightflier on December 03, 2007, 12:55:57 pm
Fair enough, but selecting XDM through vasmCC does not result in any changes on my system.

The issue with eth0 was only on first boot. On subsequent restarts it is fine.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on December 03, 2007, 02:36:34 pm
Install went fine. Still get the 'keep' prompt twice when selecting my /home partition, but that is only a visual oddity.

So far, everything seems to be working, with the exception of the volume control on the task bar. It showed 0% until I opened the properties and played with them a bit. Then it started to work. Sound itself is working fine on my T40.

Mount worked perfectly with /dev/hda1 and NTFS this time. Great!

More later... Oh, and I'm sure the new menu icon should go down  well  ;D

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on December 03, 2007, 02:52:01 pm
he he, 350 kb/s, much faster than the last time :)
No problems so far. Terminal works, all the hardware works with no problems. I will plug an nvidia card to see if I can find some fun.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Lyn on December 03, 2007, 03:12:26 pm
No issues seen at all, would appear that all my problems have been overcome!  Excellent work everyone :-)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: lagagnon on December 03, 2007, 04:01:57 pm
The last install page, before the reboot - title is "Let's The Game Begin". Correct English is "Let the Game Begin".
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nubcnubdo on December 03, 2007, 05:47:01 pm
After making partitions with cfdisk, and rebooting computer, when VL boot screen comes up, the first instruction listed is "To continue installation, press F1". This action leads to the command prompt which might be daunting for a newbie. The best (easiest) course of action is to press Enter and continue with the text-based install.

Is the user reminded to remove the CD after VL is installed, before rebooting the system? In contrast, older Windows actually needed the CD to stay in the tray for the reboot, so that more stuff could get installed after reboot. Or, at least, it didnt hurt to leave the CD in the tray. But with VL, leaving the CD in the tray could cause the computer to recycle through the installation and thus confuse the user. Hence, the expedience of reminding user to remove the CD before the reboot.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nubcnubdo on December 03, 2007, 06:22:10 pm
I'm stumped. Mozilla FF mplayer plugin does not play the audio stream at CBC Radio. CBC provides a streaming URL that the listener can plug into a media player, but I have not figured how to enter a URL in Xine. (See "Hints and Help for CBC Radio streaming on CBC.ca: Go directly to our full list of streaming URLs.") Totem has a functionality for plugging in a URL for audio streaming, but I dont see it in Xine. You'd think "Open > Location" would get you there, but it doesnt, really. BTW, FF mplayer plugin failure to play this audio stream is a bug in Ubuntu/Mint based on Gutsy. The fact that VL has same issue may indicate a deeper problem.

http://smurfmatic.net/blog/archives/2007/07/26/asx-streams-not-always-working-on-ubuntu.html

http://www.cbc.ca/listen/

EDIT: Though MPlayer has the functionality to play a streaming URL ("Open > Play URL"), it does not work here. :(

Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nubcnubdo on December 03, 2007, 06:32:57 pm
Have we really given up on modem/winmodem detection?  :-\

...appreciate the System Profiler and Benchmark, very much.  :D

Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: exeterdad on December 03, 2007, 07:07:58 pm
Don't know if it was a mistake I did or not.  But after setting up and trying to log in for the first time, I got incorrect password for normal user and root.

Not sure how I could of mistyped the password 4 times in a row.  The passwords are the same for normal user and root on this box. Yeah I know....  shoot me now.

Booting on another install on another partition, mounting the fresh install and removing the encrypted passwords from /etc/shadow allowed me to log in without password and fixing with VasmCC was easy enough.  But that was strange.  Hopefully I mistyped 4 times in a row and this doesn't happen to others?  ???
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nubcnubdo on December 03, 2007, 07:45:59 pm
The Quit dialog resulting from Menu > Quit consistently fails to come up the first time. Has to be done twice or more to produce the dialog box. This behavior still recurring after rebooting 3 times, shutting down twice.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 03, 2007, 08:35:27 pm
I installed on my Turion laptop. So far, things are looking good. VLwifi set up my WPA wireless easily. I haven't had a chance to reboot and see if the connection comes up automatically next time.

I HAVE SOUND!!! It has seemed to work alternately with every other beta and release candidate. :) Now that it's working on RC3, I hope it won't disappear in Final.

XMMS crashed (i.e., disappeared) when I tried to open a directory. It is playing files selected en masse fine.

The new Menu icon is much better. I think it's the best one VL has ever had. (I always remove it, so it doesn't make a difference to me personally, but it's important for the looks of the distro.)

I installed the proprietary NVIDIA driver and it's working fine.

Great job, everyone!
--GrannyGeek

Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nightflier on December 03, 2007, 08:58:58 pm
Laptop install: I'm impressed! All the issues that kept me from using VL 5.8 on it are solved. PCLOS is still there, but default boot is now VL 5.9.

Widescreen/hardware acceleration: Perfect.
Optical drive: Perfect.
Sound: Perfect after a little tweak. Initially the panel volume control did not work. I first deleted it, then put it back using the "add item" function. This fixed it.
Wi-fi: Functional. I don't need wpa-psk.

On the desktop install, it configured the CD-writer fine. To add the DVD reader all I had to do was to un-comment the /dev/dvd line in fstab.

- Some small issues remain with pyNeighborhood: For it to work, one either needs to change the default mount path in preferences, or create a user-writable directory /mnt/lan
While in the preferences, one might as well change file manager from "xterm -e mc" to "xfterm4 -e mc". With xterm you get a tiny little window and mc has a color scheme that makes it almost unusable.


Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 03, 2007, 11:22:45 pm
The Quit dialog resulting from Menu > Quit consistently fails to come up the first time. Has to be done twice or more to produce the dialog box. This behavior still recurring after rebooting 3 times, shutting down twice.
please upgrade the xfce4 package using slapt-get or gslapt.
It should fix this issue as long as the mixer problem some are having
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on December 03, 2007, 11:39:18 pm
Installed well.

Vasmcc could only make the Internet connection after rmmod tulip and modprobe dmfe was done. Guess I have to live with that.

As reported before me speaker on panel shows 0% volume until one puts another Wannabe Master instead of Vol. Starting xfce4-panel from a terminal I get:
 (xfce4-mixer-plugin:3906): CRITICAL **: vc_get_volume: assertion `i != -1' failed
May be that is why.

In firefox video streaming works well with embedded and external player.

xmms does not crash when doubled.

And for Uelsk you should see my icons in my fluxbox menu. Looks pretty and would be a plus for VL. I have them in VL-5.8. If I find time I might work on it for VL5.9 and give it to you. It is quite time consuming putting them in.

Seems VL59 will be just as great as VL58. After 10 years with Linux only, I think I can tell a good distro appart from one not that good. May be it is just as with wine, a matter of taste.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: wcs on December 03, 2007, 11:56:17 pm
Fantastic release. Thank you very much.

Issues (mostly minor):

1. Partition in VASM doesn't seem to do much. It opens up the help options for xdialog.

2. "Print Dialog" doesn't do anything here.

3. In fluxbox, the desktop image doesn't fit my (widescreen) monitor... it shows up centered, with black bars on each side.

4. When starting in xfce, during the little splash screen, the background is completely blue, although in 5.8 the background (before the desktop image shows up) is black. Not wanting to be picky, but I find it very ugly that it goes from kdm to black, to blue, to black again, and finally to the desktop background image.

5. Right-clicking on a tar.bz2 file shows the options of "extract here (tar.bz2)" and "extract here (.bz2)" but, in addition, two other options with different icons: "Extract here" (again) and "Extract to". These last two options do not work (it says "no suitable archive manager"). Also, this archive is not associated with Xarchiver for double-click opening.

6. The Volume applet is still a bit weird. When increasing the volume it goes back to 0% as before. But it seems to start working when properties are open and then closed. Note that I did not change any property. It seems that the properties weren't really "saved" before.

7. When I do a screen snapshot using the panel applet, the applet crashes and disappears from the panel immediately after saving the file.

8. Just spelling: In the mouse configuration, "How many button does your mouse have?" should read "buttons". In the window manager selection screen in VASM, it says "KDM selected for all user" should read "users".

And a few things that have been there forever (at least since 5.8 ), but aren't really that important:

9. When installing a tgz package by right-clicking, there seems to be no indication that the install is completed. I suppose that's the console output from slapt-get isn't it? Although we know we can just hit "close", a new user wouldn't see any "done" message.

10. In that KDM/XDM vasm screen it seems that scrolling the mouse wheel has the same effect as pressing "OK". This has accidentally happened to me quite a few times in 5.8. I'm not sure if it only happens in the Window Manager selection screen, or in other VASM screens as well.

11. The modem searching in the installer takes quite a bit and the installer just seems to hang if there is no modem present. Of course, users can just wait a bit, but it would be nice is it said something like "searching for modems".

So far, everything else is working perfectly.
Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: The Headacher on December 04, 2007, 01:00:12 am
I'm stumped. Mozilla FF mplayer plugin does not play the audio stream at CBC Radio. CBC provides a streaming URL that the listener can plug into a media player, but I have not figured how to enter a URL in Xine.
I can't find it either, but you can do it from the commandline just fine:
Code: [Select]
xine http://some_url
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EDIT: Though MPlayer has the functionality to play a streaming URL ("Open > Play URL"), it does not work here. :(
Something may be very wrong with our mplayer... I still can't play dvd's with it.

Other than that, seems fine so far. The new kde packages in the repo work a lot better :).
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Audiolis on December 04, 2007, 09:56:05 am
Very nice!!!
Suggestion: are you planning to add "audacity" to your repository?
I´m trying to install it from slackware repository... didn´t success yet...
Another spot: Installation trouble with X configuration. Seems to be a bug (?) in autoconf. Nothing that I can’t edit manually. HorizSync was set to 37-37 and VertRefresh to 75-75. Change it to H 37-50 and V 50-75, and everything works. ;D
See you there...
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: easuter on December 04, 2007, 10:13:21 am
Audiolis, Audacity and many other multimedia apps will be in the repo tonight ;)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nubcnubdo on December 04, 2007, 10:27:47 am
Quote from: nubcnubdo on December 03, 2007, 08:22:10 PM
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I'm stumped. Mozilla FF mplayer plugin does not play the audio stream at CBC Radio. CBC provides a streaming URL that the listener can plug into a media player, but I have not figured how to enter a URL in Xine.

Quote from: The Headacher on December 04, 2007, 03:00:12 AM
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I can't find it either, but you can do it from the commandline just fine.

If I execute "xine [streaming URL]" from CLI, then Terminal must continue running in order to listen to the audio stream. If I use the Run Program dialog to execute the command, then I have one less program running and occupying a space on Panel, namely Terminal.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: DrCR on December 04, 2007, 11:26:36 am
A really quick glance at it in a VM, and I would recommend some splash tweaking. Overall liking the GUI though. :)

Pics to-be-posted sometime tonight.

XFCE Startup Splash Adjustment Recommendations
- invert font colors to a white text on black background
- lower Sans Bold font size from 10 to 9


Login Screen GUI Adjustment Recommendations
Counter-Clockwise from top center:

1. Remove Logo. Redundant with the bottom right-hand corner logo.
2. Make Left Aligned
3. Remove underlining (despite any shortcut symbolism)
4. Lower password input box field to match the space between the text and input box for username
5. Adjust semi-transparent layer
   - raised upwards a bit
   - extended to the right to fill the area where the logo was
   * the overall width may need to be shrunk
6. Adjust spacing and alignment of System, Session, and Enter buttons



I'll take more than just a superficial look sometime next week.

DrCR

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Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: exeterdad on December 04, 2007, 12:00:13 pm
Dchp is still flaky on bootup for some reason. "Setting up basic network" text shows for quite a long time before boot continues.  Network unreachable unless I use Vasm and give it a nudge.  Setting static works fine.  Not a biggie, but for a newbie this could make or break their like of VL as Internet is priority one.  :)

As mentioned, volume indicator is at zero in Xfce panel.  Right click > properties > close and it magically works.

Still haven't ever been able to use Xfburn.  I don't get it.  It just will not load.  Unless I have another instance of it "trying" to load.  The second instance will load, but won't work as first instance make the optical devices "busy".  Running from terminal only reveals this one line, and then hangs until I get bored waiting.
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** Message: Using Thunar-VFS 0.8.0

This is really chapping my hide as I've spent a huge amount of time trying to nail down the cause as it seems I'm the only one mentioning this problem.  "Praise the K3b!"

I've installed 5 times now just to explore and see what I could find broken.  One thing I've never noticed...  I have a Nvidia card, I normally take all defaults when installing, and sometimes actually install the Nvidia driver rather than choosing the xorg nv driver (for packaging).  This time I decided to not accept the defaults, and skipped the kernel sources, the video drivers, and about half of the packages to speed things up a bit.

When it came to X11 stuff, I was going to install the nv driver.  But it appears that is not a option if you don't have vlnvidia installed.  I know it's just a matter of the xorg.conf file.  But a user shouldn't have to install the vlnvidia bundle of drivers and versions just so they can have autoconfigure of a already included xorg driver (nv module).  So seeing my shiny new installation through a fuzzy framebuffer, with a 800x600 res just wasn't going to work.  Just my opinion  :)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 04, 2007, 01:01:07 pm
I installed RC3 on two more computers today: Celeron laptop and Celeron desktop. Both are nearly flawless at this point. I haven't done much testing, but the wired network installed without a hitch, Internet access is fine, sound works, video is fine.

I had the sound icon reading zero like the others, but I tried Exerterdad's tip about properties, close and now I see the sound level.

Nothing else to report at this point. I'm hoping for time to install RC3 on the Athlon 64 desktop tomorrow.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on December 04, 2007, 01:44:19 pm
please upgrade the xfce4 package using slapt-get or gslapt.
It should fix this issue as long as the mixer problem some are having

Sorry, mixer problem reappeared after the upgrade. Opening Properties and closing them still fixes it...

paul
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: The Headacher on December 04, 2007, 01:46:54 pm
If I execute "xine [streaming URL]" from CLI, then Terminal must continue running in order to listen to the audio stream. If I use the Run Program dialog to execute the command, then I have one less program running and occupying a space on Panel, namely Terminal.
Code: [Select]
xine [streaming URL] & should prevent you from having to open another terminal.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: exeterdad on December 04, 2007, 03:03:59 pm
Is the stock X11 mouse pointer and friends intentional?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: BlueMage on December 04, 2007, 04:43:09 pm
Same ghostly-text display problem with xorg as with RC2 for me, but not as bad - I can actually read most text, albeit with a bit of difficulty.  As such, I'm anticipating switching to vesa will solve this again.

Glad to see the prune gone - the new menu icon looks clean, stylish and professional.  Same goes for the splash screen - very nice design.

Will report further issues as they arrise.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Masta on December 04, 2007, 04:54:19 pm
Is the stock X11 mouse pointer and friends intentional?
It's been that way for a long time that I know of, just hasn't been changed as it was in 5.8 Final/Gold. It can be changed by installing a mouse cursor theme you want, or go with the one already installed.
   Simply edit the index.theme and change the "theme name" for the x11.
(/usr/share/icons/default/index.theme) You'll need to create folder /default and themes go inside this.

P.S. I suspect it might be changed for Final as it was for 5.8. Also... As far as I know of, this isn't this way in the Deluxe. I think there's a pretty mouse cursor on that one.

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Login Screen GUI Adjustment Recommendations
Counter-Clockwise from top center:

1. Remove Logo. Redundant with the bottom right-hand corner logo.
2. Make Left Aligned
3. Remove underlining (despite any shortcut symbolism)
4. Lower password input box field to match the space between the text and input box for username
5. Adjust semi-transparent layer
   - raised upwards a bit
   - extended to the right to fill the area where the logo was
   * the overall width may need to be shrunk
6. Adjust spacing and alignment of System, Session, and Enter buttons

I think that particular KDM theme isn't being changed anymore, just not enough time. That doesn't mean you can't modify it as you wish, Please, feel free to upload modified theme into contrib so that it may get into repository for the benefit of other users. Or any other theme for that matter.
Pardon the commercial plug, but I think the Deluxe version has a much better theme.

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3. In fluxbox, the desktop image doesn't fit my (widescreen) monitor... it shows up centered, with black bars on each side.
The images were made for "standard resolutions". These STD rez.'s are pretty much for square monitors. I am unsure, at this time, if there will be wide screen images ready for/by Final.

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4. When starting in xfce, during the little splash screen, the background is completely blue, although in 5.8 the background (before the desktop image shows up) is black. Not wanting to be picky, but I find it very ugly that it goes from kdm to black, to blue, to black again, and finally to the desktop background image.
I'm not sure what causes that. Try setting a background image for the login of KDM (see kdmrc) , see if that makes any difference.

Edit, corrected directory list for cursor icon.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nubcnubdo on December 04, 2007, 06:10:46 pm
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should prevent you from having to open another terminal.

The point is, there are two ways to run the command, from CLI and Run Program. From CLI you necessarily have the Terminal tagging along with Xine. If you try to close Terminal, Xine will also close. OTOH running the command from Run Program, there is no Terminal program tagging along, just the Xine visualization, which saves space on Panel.

Bottom line: This stream should play when user clicks on link at CBC. IMHO running streaming URL from CLI or Run Program isn't gonna fly for a final release of VL 5.9 Std. It's worth the effort to maintain VL's reputation of everything working out of the box.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nubcnubdo on December 04, 2007, 07:18:31 pm
I upgraded Xfce, and it still takes two (or more) tries to get the Quit dialog.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: DrCR on December 04, 2007, 07:20:23 pm
A really quick glance at it in a VM, and overall liking the GUI. I would like recommend some splash tweaking though so make Vector that little bit better. I'm really excited about this release and the presumably upcoming SOHO version. Here's to tweaking VL to perfection!  :)

XFCE Startup Splash Adjustment Recommendations: Before / After

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/drcr1/linux_related/th_VL59R3_SplashScreen.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/drcr1/linux_related/VL59R3_SplashScreen.png)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/drcr1/linux_related/th_VL59R3_RecommendedSplashScreen.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/drcr1/linux_related/VL59R3_RecommendedSplashScreen.png)
- invert font colors to a white text on black background
- lower Sans Bold font size from 10 to 9

Login Screen GUI Adjustment Recommendations

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/drcr1/linux_related/th_VL59R3_RecommendedLoginScreen.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/drcr1/linux_related/VL59R3_RecommendedLoginScreen.png) 
Counter-Clockwise from top center:
1. Remove Logo. Redundant with the bottom right-hand corner logo.
2. Make Left Aligned
3. Remove underlining (despite any shortcut symbolism)
4. Lower password input box field to match the space between the text and input box for username
5. Adjust semi-transparent layer
   - raised upwards a bit
   - extended to the right to fill the area where the logo was
   * the overall width may need to be shrunk
6. Adjust spacing and alignment of System, Session, and Enter buttons
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: exeterdad on December 04, 2007, 07:33:31 pm
I can see what you're saying about the login screen tweaks.  I never noticed before.  But I'm sorry... I like the original splash better than your proposal.  :-\ 
But that's me  :)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: DrCR on December 04, 2007, 07:52:46 pm
The original boot splash looks too blurryish to me with the shaddowing of the larger text, and I think the white backround just doesn't fit ... but that may be just me. :)

The login screen definitely needs help though, even it isn't the quickly thought of tweaks I mentioned (no offense to the original designer).

Edit: The username listing also seems to more commonly be listed on the left.
Example layout from a couple of kde-look (http://kde-look.org) hits.
(http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-m1/m68459-1.png) (http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/68459-1.png)
Infinity for KDM (http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Infinity+for+KDM?content=68459)
Bela KDM theme (http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Bela+KDM+theme?content=60890)

Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 04, 2007, 08:01:06 pm
When I booted my Turion laptop today, the WPA wireless had to be reconfigured with VLwifi. There was no connection until I ran VLwifi. That's the same problem I had in RC2. I added modprobe ndiswrapper to /etc/rc.d/rc.inet3, which fixed it in RC2. I haven't yet rebooted to see if the fix works in RC3.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: wcs on December 04, 2007, 08:10:39 pm
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The login screen definitely needs help though, even it isn't the quickly thought of tweaks I mentioned (no offense to the original designer).

I think so as well. It looks a bit too crowded to me, and less pleasant than the login screen in 5.8 . Maybe it's the big logo in the middle.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on December 04, 2007, 10:52:56 pm
I have xine streaming a video. I put the url into a file, then playlist add the file and play. I stop and quit xine. Relaunch, it crashes, relaunch again it starts playing where I left the url.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on December 04, 2007, 11:15:03 pm
Minor annoyance. I recycled users between RC2 and RC3. Didn't really expect things to have changed to much, so I elected not to reset things. However, my customized ~/.bashrc was overwritten. And I've also just discovered that my customization to Fluxbox has also been overwritten. Would be nice if it was left alone when I ask it to be...

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: hpearlman on December 05, 2007, 03:16:14 am
Excellant.  Especially like that webar thing and I love VASMcc new look (noticed you did keep the old vasm too).  Great job.  Everything works well so far and man is it ever quick.  Thanks guys.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on December 05, 2007, 08:28:34 am
Dumb question. I'm using HAL rather than Vl-hot. And I was wondering if there was any reason not to remove the extraneous directories from both /mnt and /media? Its a bit cluttered in there....

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 05, 2007, 10:22:53 am
I've installed RC3 on my Athlon desktop. RC3 is now on all four of my computers.

Installation on the Athlon was trouble free. I'm using the proprietary ATI driver--works fine, no problems. I do have some minor screen artifacts. I had those with RC1.7, too--I think they went away after a few uses, but so far I haven't had the opportunity to reboot. I can't test more right now.

On the Turion laptop, the wireless connection came up automatically at startup after I added modprobe ndiswrapper to /etc/rc.d/rc.inet3 and rebooted. That fix also worked in RC2. I'm wondering if this might be an issue for newbies who have similar drivers under ndiswrapper.

More later.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 05, 2007, 10:26:36 am
I was wondering if there was any reason not to remove the extraneous directories from both /mnt and /media? Its a bit cluttered in there....

I don't mess with /media simply because I rarely mount anything on /media and it's off my radar. However, in /mnt I always remove directories I know I'll never have any use for, like /fd0 or /floppy (whatever it's called) and /win or /hd. I create my own directories for my Windows drives, such as /mnt/win-c, /mnt/win-d, etc., so I don't need /win.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on December 05, 2007, 10:39:42 pm
After I had done the properties on speaker icon on panel it stays showing the volume after repeated reboots.

I still do not like that mc starts in black in Terminal and in invisible in xterm unless the -b flag is set. It has always been white on blue which I find nice compared to the ugly black. Why had that to be changed?

On booting, setting up network it shows the output of /sbin/ifconfig. Is there a need for that? Could somebody looking over ones shoulder catch the ip address?

I really like the Menu icon now on the panel.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on December 06, 2007, 02:55:56 am
I don't mess with /media simply because I rarely mount anything on /media and it's off my radar. However, in /mnt I always remove directories I know I'll never have any use for, like /fd0 or /floppy (whatever it's called) and /win or /hd. I create my own directories for my Windows drives, such as /mnt/win-c, /mnt/win-d, etc., so I don't need /win.

I thought that would be pretty much the way things worked. I am a bit puzzled though - from reading, I thought that all removable media would now use /media as a mount point, and /mnt would only be for things like hard drive partitions. I notice however that optical media is still mounting on /mnt. Should any links to cdrom/dvd drives be removed from /etc/fstab (as is the case with Zenwalk), or should fstab be modified to use /media instead of /mnt for opticals?

HAL is a bit tidier than Vl-hot, but it does involve a bit more memory footprint, so I guess no fix is going to be universal.

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: M-ake on December 06, 2007, 05:50:01 am
*Sound & 1280x800 res & intel 950gma works out of the box. Nice!


Some issues still remain tho:

-Lilo failed to detect ubuntu install, this was easy to fix with liloconfig. Winxp was detected properly.

-The new menu button rocks, tho I agree on changing the login screen

-Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG card still not detected, this has been a problem in earlier releases. Its easy to fix with adding ipw3945d to rc.local, but some newbies might give up.

-I built compiz fusion && emerald using this howto http://vectorlinux.com/wiki/doku.php?id=howtos:compiz-fusion without errors , yet emerald wont work
Code: [Select]
m-ake:$ emerald
emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"

-How can I install kde ? Kdemeta package doesnt show in glsapt with default repos enabled.

-How about how can I test tuxonice ? I dont see suspend or hibernate in menu --> quit.


Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: BlueMage on December 06, 2007, 06:01:44 am
More video oddness.  Ran VASMcc (in vesa), and setup xorg configuration.  Logged out, went to console login, logged in, started xfce.  No ghost text.  In fact, no text at all :/  No icons either, on desktop, taskbar or menus.  Will fiddle more as time allows.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on December 06, 2007, 06:02:48 am
I don't mess with /media simply because I rarely mount anything on /media and it's off my radar. However, in /mnt I always remove directories I know I'll never have any use for, like /fd0 or /floppy (whatever it's called) and /win or /hd. I create my own directories for my Windows drives, such as /mnt/win-c, /mnt/win-d, etc., so I don't need /win.

I thought that would be pretty much the way things worked. I am a bit puzzled though - from reading, I thought that all removable media would now use /media as a mount point, and /mnt would only be for things like hard drive partitions. I notice however that optical media is still mounting on /mnt. Should any links to cdrom/dvd drives be removed from /etc/fstab (as is the case with Zenwalk), or should fstab be modified to use /media instead of /mnt for opticals?

HAL is a bit tidier than Vl-hot, but it does involve a bit more memory footprint, so I guess no fix is going to be universal.

paul.

AFAIK, /mnt always was for temp mount points, which includes hd's in the unix philosophy (and anything else than /home, /, and all the necessary fs's, for that matter). /media was introduced by Debian and its derivated. Initially temporarily filesystems used to be mounted directly in /mnt, but later started the use of subdirs in /mnt. That lives /media for removable media. Personally, I think /media is useless. I like to keep mount points toghether in /mnt, and I remove /media because I like to keep / tree as small as possible. I am not sure if removing /media is safe for hal users, though.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nubcnubdo on December 06, 2007, 06:11:45 am
Agree. Login screen could use some editing. Maybe eliminate central VL logo to unclutter dialog box.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: M0E-lnx on December 06, 2007, 06:22:08 am
*Sound & 1280x800 res & intel 950gma works out of the box. Nice!


Some issues still remain tho:

-I built compiz fusion && emerald using this howto http://vectorlinux.com/wiki/doku.php?id=howtos:compiz-fusion without errors , yet emerald wont work
Code: [Select]
m-ake:$ emerald
emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"

Can you paste the results of
Code: [Select]
whereis pidofIIRC, to get around that, pidof has to be accessible to your user account. You can add a simlink to it if one does not exists
Code: [Select]
ln -s /user/sbin/pidof /sbin/pidofHTH
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Joe1962 on December 06, 2007, 10:30:27 am
HAL is a bit tidier than Vl-hot, but it does involve a bit more memory footprint, so I guess no fix is going to be universal.
Actually, from my point of view, vl-hot is very "tidy". It works inside it's own subtree called /mnt/vl-hot. I've been proposing cleaning up /mnt for a long time now. I remove most of those directories after every install.

The only time vl-hot mounts become a bit tedious is when not using a gui desktop with support for the drive icons, so you have to navigate to the innermost mountpoint. I find that a fair trade-off for an organized layout. I did ask for suggestions on this back when I started on vl-hot development, but didn't get much (apart from moving to /media, which is definitely not the right place for external mass storage mounts).
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 06, 2007, 11:52:22 am
Today I tried to run jpilot on my Athlon desktop. I followed an old message from Joe1962 about doing
/sbin/modprobe usbserial
/sbin/modprobe visor   

and then creating the USB ports:
/bin/mknod /dev/ttyUSB0 c 188 0
/bin/mknod /dev/ttyUSB1 c 188 1   

and then:
/bin/chmod a+rw /dev/ttyUSB?

/dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 then show up in /dev. I ran jpilot as user and tried to sync but nothing happened and my Clie reported that it was unable to connect. So I ran
pilot-install-user -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -u me -i 12345
and I got this:
unable to bind to port: /dev/ttyUSB1

After this unsuccessful attempt, /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 disappear from /dev.

I get the same results if I do the same things as root.

Soooo,
I can't sync with my Clie. I know I connected successfully in earlier release candidates. I haven't tried syncing on my other computers yet. Will do that later and see what happens.

By the way, when you first try to run jpilot it complains that it needs libpisock.so.8 ("no such file"), so I created a symlink to /usr/lib/libpisock.so.9.0.1 and after that, jpilot started. I had to create the same symlink in RC1.7 and RC2 and was able to sync. (Maybe my memory is faulty as to whether I tried this in both those RCs, but I'm pretty sure I did, as I remember having a working jpilot in at least one prior release candidate. It depends on whether I got around to installing and running jpilot in all of them.)

I'll report on whether the problem shows up on my other computers.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 06, 2007, 12:11:58 pm
My Turion laptop doesn't shut down properly. This has been a problem with all Release Candidates, I think.

It actually completes the whole shutdown process but instead of turning off, the screen flashes random text until I turn off the computer with the power button. This computer powers down fine in Windows Vista. My other computers with RC3 turn off without problems.

I consider this a very minor problem, but I thought I should mention it.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: nightflier on December 06, 2007, 12:52:31 pm
Granny, have you tried adding "apm=power-off" to LILO?
http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4795.0

I know it's aimed at older machines, but worth a try.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: newt on December 06, 2007, 01:00:11 pm
My Turion laptop doesn't shut down properly. This has been a problem with all Release Candidates, I think.

It actually completes the whole shutdown process but instead of turning off, the screen flashes random text until I turn off the computer with the power button. This computer powers down fine in Windows Vista. My other computers with RC3 turn off without problems.

I consider this a very minor problem, but I thought I should mention it.
--GrannyGeek

Also this thread ( http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=3817.0 ) mentions using 'acpi=force' as a possibility.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 06, 2007, 01:21:38 pm
I can't add anything to LILO, as far as I know, because I boot from the installation CD and I don't think you can add any parameters to
linux root=/dev/hda6 ro
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

This computer has Vista and Vista no longer uses a boot.ini file, so the way we used to be able to add Linux to the XP boot loader is no longer an option. I would not dare put anything in the MBR because if anything goes wrong, I don't know how to restore the old MBR. There is no recovery console, so no way to run
fixmbr

I do have a program called EasyBCD, I think, that is supposed to be a graphical interface to the new boot table in Vista. Once VL goes Final, I'll look into setting up a dual boot. But first I have to make sure I can recover if anything goes wrong. I would NOT want to run the Recovery DVD that came with the computer and have to set up everything all over. I don't have any image-file software that is Vista compatible. I know I could do a dd command from a LiveCD and duplicate the whole drive, but the geekiness level surpasses where I'm at and I'd have to spend time knowing what I'm doing before I'd entrust the farm to something I'm not sure of.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on December 06, 2007, 01:32:14 pm
Quote
This computer has Vista and Vista no longer uses a boot.ini file, so the way we used to be able to add Linux to the XP boot loader is no longer an option. I would not dare put anything in the MBR because if anything goes wrong, I don't know how to restore the old MBR. There is no recovery console, so no way to run
fixmbr

I used mbrfix instead many times. The author didn't lose much time looking for a name, but the tool never failed to me. http://www.sysint.no/nedlasting/mbrfix.htm
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 06, 2007, 01:45:34 pm
I can't add anything to LILO, as far as I know, because I boot from the installation CD and I don't think you can add any parameters to
linux root=/dev/hda6 ro
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

--GrannyGeek
you can add any/all kernel parameters to the cd boot prompt like below or whatever you need.
linux root=/dev/hda6 ro apm=power-off acpi=force
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 06, 2007, 01:53:22 pm
I used mbrfix instead many times. The author didn't lose much time looking for a name, but the tool never failed to me. http://www.sysint.no/nedlasting/mbrfix.htm

Thanks! That looks like what I need. My caution still applies, though, so I'll check into it very carefully once VL goes Gold. Your experience certainly gives me hope.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 06, 2007, 01:57:10 pm
you can add any/all kernel parameters to the cd boot prompt like below or whatever you need.
linux root=/dev/hda6 ro apm=power-off acpi=force

Thanks for the information. I'll give it a try in a few minutes when I turn the laptop on. Of course, I won't know if it has any effect until late tonight, when I turn it off.<g> Will let you know.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on December 06, 2007, 02:36:44 pm
I used mbrfix instead many times. The author didn't lose much time looking for a name, but the tool never failed to me. http://www.sysint.no/nedlasting/mbrfix.htm

Thanks! That looks like what I need. My caution still applies, though, so I'll check into it very carefully once VL goes Gold. Your experience certainly gives me hope.
--GrannyGeek

Your caution is well applied. The syntax is weird but pretty easy. I found nice the backup mbr feature  ;).
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: caitlyn on December 06, 2007, 06:07:49 pm
I installed RC3 this evening.

The good... I accidentally interrupted the install during the configuration portion after the files are all copied to disk.  On reboot it resumed at the beginning of that configuration section.  Very nice.

The bad...  X configuration -- same bug as I reported in RC2.

The ugly -- grub -- still as broken as I reported in RC2.  If this can't be fixed it shouldn't be left in unless you want lots of criticism from users.

-Caitlyn
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on December 06, 2007, 07:05:16 pm
at is not started on boot.

I copied the file 'at' to init.d did a reboot and at is not on. I have to do it manually: at start.

Is init.d not read when booting? I am using runlevel 2.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 06, 2007, 08:10:01 pm
I tried to run jpilot on the Turion laptop tonight. I had the exact same results as on the Athlon desktop. So either the method that worked on earlier releases needs to be modified or jpilot has some problems with the newer kernel or the other new stuff.

Is anyone else using Jpilot with RC3?
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 06, 2007, 08:20:45 pm
at is not started on boot.

I copied the file 'at' to init.d did a reboot and at is not on. I have to do it manually: at start.

Is init.d not read when booting? I am using runlevel 2.
init.d is not read while booting.
you should make a symlink to at into /etc/rc.d/rc2.d/
if you run vasm > super > service > srvset you can make the symlink there
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: DrCR on December 06, 2007, 09:54:08 pm
I would not dare put anything in the MBR because if anything goes wrong, I don't know how to restore the old MBR. There is no recovery console, so no way to run
fixmbr
Wow, this is one of the few times I feel knowledgeable on this forum. :D I make backups of my MBR and partition table as part of my backup regimen, more often actually as I'm sure you can imagine after a glance at my specs. I run Grub on the MBR for basically every machine I use.

To make a backup of your MBR and partition table:
dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/sdb1/sdaMBRandPartitionTableBackupFile bs=512 count=1

If you wanted to make a backup of your MBR but not your partition table:
dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/sdb1/sdaMBRBackupFile bs=446 count=1

To restore just do the opposite:
dd if=/mnt/sdb1/sdaMBRandPartitionTableBackupFile of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1

Hope this helps. The threads linked in my sig may be of value to you as well. Saikee (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=saikee+linux) was my mentor in this sort of thing a while back now. Let me know if you need more input in getting a proper multi-OS config setup. 


Edit: The other day I (for some crazy reason) messed with OSX's diskutil...which destroys the partition table every chance it gets, even just changing a partition type. A reboot confirmed my fears. Fortunately I had created a backup using the above posted dd bs=512 command. I had to use testdisk (on PartedMagic, SystemRescueCD, et al) to recover the Fat32 storage partition I had saved the backup to, but once that was completed a simple MBR restore dd command, and I was back in business. So yes, the process works. :) The first thing I did after that is email myself that MBR backup file for safer keeping lol.


DrCR

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Pending Fusion "bootcamp" VMs pointing to native OS installs
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on December 06, 2007, 10:17:17 pm
at is not started on boot.

I copied the file 'at' to init.d did a reboot and at is not on. I have to do it manually: at start.

Is init.d not read when booting? I am using runlevel 2.
init.d is not read while booting.
you should make a symlink to at into /etc/rc.d/rc2.d/
if you run vasm > super > service > srvset you can make the symlink there

Thanks! Stupid me, I should know, did in VL5.8
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on December 06, 2007, 10:32:05 pm
In the jwm menu the command for frozen-bubble reads frozenbubble for which reason it will natuarlly not launch. It should be frozen-bubble.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 06, 2007, 11:11:26 pm
To make a backup of your MBR and partition table:
dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/sdb1/sdaMBRandPartitionTableBackupFile bs=512 count=1

If you wanted to make a backup of your MBR but not your partition table:
dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/sdb1/sdaMBRBackupFile bs=446 count=1

To restore just do the opposite:
dd if=/mnt/sdb1/sdaMBRandPartitionTableBackupFile of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1

Now for my dumb question. Where do I put the file? I don't have a floppy drive. I'd have to boot with something, wouldn't I? I have a SystemRescue CD that's bootable. If I put the partition table and MBR backup file on a flash drive, could I boot with SystemRescue, mount the flash drive, and run the reverse to restore?
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: alec on December 07, 2007, 02:18:00 am
Installed it, everything worked out of the box, even the widescreen reso was detected on automatic. Love it from the first sight, everything is perfect.
Need to get cpufreq working, I'm a bit paranoid about the power consumption. And can't wait for 64-bit version!
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: caitlyn on December 07, 2007, 09:48:12 am
More comments...

The good: 

1. Xfce taskbar weirdness in RC2 appears to be fixed in RC3.  Upgrading to 4.4.2 seems to have been a good idea.  Everything appears to be stable and working.

2. The new menu icon is fine.  I'm pleased to see the ugly prune is gone.

The not so good:
1.  In Thunar clicking on a .zip or .rar archive brings up a message that no suitable archive manager is available.  Other distros do successfully tie Thunar to an archive manager.

2.  VL still doesn't detect that I'm running a Toshiba laptop during install or boot.  I still need to manually add the toshiba module to rc.modules by hand.  No big deal for me but not user friendly for newcomers.

I'll post more as I use it more.

Regards,
Cait
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: caitlyn on December 07, 2007, 09:50:07 am
And can't wait for 64-bit version!

Me too.  I'm planning on a new computer soon and everything is 64-bit nowadays.  I also do some pretty processor intensive stuff now and again so I may actually see some improved performance moving to native 64-bit.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 07, 2007, 11:23:13 am
I tried to run jpilot on the Turion laptop tonight. I had the exact same results as on the Athlon desktop. So either the method that worked on earlier releases needs to be modified or jpilot has some problems with the newer kernel or the other new stuff.

I tried jpilot on my Celeron desktop. Same result--Clie can't connect, so I can't sync. This time I copied all the relevant /usr/libpisock files from a VL5.8 partition on that computer (after moving the libpisock newer version files to get them out of the way), ran ldconfig, and tried making a connection with the Clie. Same result, so it's not just the newer libpisock. Something else must be going on. When 5.9 goes Final, I'll compile jpilot and see if that will get it going.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 07, 2007, 11:28:18 am
you can add any/all kernel parameters to the cd boot prompt like below or whatever you need.
linux root=/dev/hda6 ro apm=power-off acpi=force

Thanks for the information. I'll give it a try in a few minutes when I turn the laptop on. Of course, I won't know if it has any effect until late tonight, when I turn it off.<g> Will let you know.
--GrannyGeek

Well, I tried all possible combinations on the Turion laptop:
linux root=/dev/hda6 ro apm=power-off
linux root=/dev/hda6 ro acpi=force
linux root=/dev/hda6 ro apm=power-off acpi=force

I got the same results as with
linux root=/dev/hda6 ro

The computer won't power off; I have to press the power button. It does shut off properly in Vista. The good news is that VectorLinux shuts down completely. The computer does not.

The other three computers do complete the power off.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 07, 2007, 11:34:33 am
The Celeron laptop with Intel 852GM graphics has the same problem I noticed in RC2. VASM sets it up with the Intel driver and everything is fine the first time I startx and continues to be fine throughout the session. However, at the next boot, XFce comes up with text and icons for all desktop elements a very light shade of gray, which is almost invisible.

Editing xorg.conf by changing the driver to vesa gets the text and icon colors back. So far, the fix seems to persist through rebooting.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Witek Mozga on December 07, 2007, 02:25:01 pm
I`ve been trying to add a user using vasm from root account. When it comes to 'enter user ID' it displays 1000, when I click 'next', it says 'ERROR, UIDs are numerical only'. It seems vasm treats this value as text not as numerical value; the script (or code) must be fixed.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: M0E-lnx on December 07, 2007, 02:29:12 pm
Actually, I remember seeing this before on other versions. it may be leftovers from other releases
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Witek Mozga on December 07, 2007, 02:39:58 pm
I tried installation on a Dell box with i810 video card. When the installer tried to configure X11 my screen went black. I rebooted from HD this time, installer tried once again and failed. I rebooted and got into superuser console. When I replaced driver "intel" with "i810" in xorg.conf then X11 could be started. Anyway X consumes huge amount of CPU when trying to resize or move windows. Probably something`s still wrong with xorg.conf.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Witek Mozga on December 07, 2007, 02:45:05 pm
In Thunar clicking on a .zip or .rar archive brings up a message that no suitable archive manager is available.  Other distros do successfully tie Thunar to an archive manager.

agreed, I tried to point this issue several times, vainly  :-[
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on December 07, 2007, 04:15:43 pm
I have one issue. Trying to save settings to xorg.cong from the nvidia-settings gui ends with a segmentation fault. Editing xorg.conf by hand works good.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on December 07, 2007, 04:59:05 pm
Actually, from my point of view, vl-hot is very "tidy". It works inside it's own subtree called /mnt/vl-hot. I've been proposing cleaning up /mnt for a long time now. I remove most of those directories after every install.

 ;D Tidier probably wasn't the right word. More complete? What I found a little off-putting was the fact that Vl-hot didn't handle optical media. So any USB mass storage device would be automounted, but I had to go and use something like the Xfce mount applet to mount a CD. HAL handles all removable media, which makes it a bit more seamless.

Quote
The only time vl-hot mounts become a bit tedious is when not using a gui desktop with support for the drive icons, so you have to navigate to the innermost mountpoint. I find that a fair trade-off for an organized layout. I did ask for suggestions on this back when I started on vl-hot development, but didn't get much (apart from moving to /media, which is definitely not the right place for external mass storage mounts).

 :( It looks as though /media is now the norm, at least for things like HAL. I don't much like the idea of splitting mount point up, so maintaining both /mnt and /media seems a bit silly.

I'm also not too fond of the naming used by HAL. I have a Seagate FreeAgent GO USB drive, which always gets mounted as /media/FreeAgent Drive. I really don't like file/directory names with spaces in them...

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on December 07, 2007, 05:06:38 pm
1.  In Thunar clicking on a .zip or .rar archive brings up a message that no suitable archive manager is available.  Other distros do successfully tie Thunar to an archive manager.

I'm seeing something similar, but here it simply looks as though there is a problem of some sort with default mime info for Thunar. I've manually associated Xarchiver with all the common archives, and that seems to have stuck. Not sure why it wasn't set by default.

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2.  VL still doesn't detect that I'm running a Toshiba laptop during install or boot.  I still need to manually add the toshiba module to rc.modules by hand.  No big deal for me but not user friendly for newcomers.

I'm running RC3 on a an IBM Thinkpad. Also not detected - I've had to manually add thinkpad_acpi to /etc/rc.d/rc.modules. It would be nice if it was autodeteced, but not many other distros have done so either, unfortunately.

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on December 07, 2007, 06:09:28 pm
Now for my dumb question. Where do I put the file? I don't have a floppy drive. I'd have to boot with something, wouldn't I? I have a SystemRescue CD that's bootable. If I put the partition table and MBR backup file on a flash drive, could I boot with SystemRescue, mount the flash drive, and run the reverse to restore?

That would be the simplest option. While I usually use SystemRescueCD to recover broken Windows boxes, it works pretty much the same with Linux.  In fact, it provides a utility you can use to backup the partition table (sfdisk) which would allow you to create a backup of the MBR and a separate backup of the partition table.

That should give you some protection...

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: tab0reqq on December 07, 2007, 06:44:30 pm
I couldn't wait more :) I deleted all partitions made with Vista (but with clean win xp). Then i installed again Windows XP @ sda1, second ntfs @ sda2. Extended partitions and sd5,6,7 with swap, raiserfs, raiserfs and of course VECTOR 5.9 rc3.

Actually i work on WiFi - no problem at all. Cable (Broadcom) also without any problem.

New VASM is AMAZING !!!!!! That what i always wanted to have. Adding partitions to FSTAB with VASM was very easy. All worked without Google ;p

My X stared also without any problems. Now i need to know: do i have to install additional Intel 945GM drivers for my integrated GMA950? Actually graphic works but... UT2004 demo on Windows was easy to play. On Linux i have 2-10FPS instad of 40++.

Since Vector 5.8 i have problems with keymap during installation. On beginning i chose Polish (PL). Then i start installation. After all setups at end "vector" ask me if i want to save keyboard layout (en-US). Dam no! I changed it at beginning and i still have to do this second time. Is it a bug or do i miss something?

Another question: how to enable OSD volume up/down on my HP nx7300 laptop? I can easy rise and lower brightness (but without OSD info - ubuntu has it). And I CAN'T lower/rise volume with hardware button on my laptop. Mute works (also hardware button) but volume control no.

Question bout HDD on battery: do i need to change smth on ACPI to avoid hdd problems while i work on battery?

How works speedstep on laptop? On windows i had NHC Notebook Hardware Control with 2 most important switches: max battery and max performance. Does Vector makes it automatically? I never used laptop with Linux thats why i ask.

HINTS?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: DrCR on December 07, 2007, 07:34:39 pm
To make a backup of your MBR and partition table:
dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/sdb1/sdaMBRandPartitionTableBackupFile bs=512 count=1

If you wanted to make a backup of your MBR but not your partition table:
dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/sdb1/sdaMBRBackupFile bs=446 count=1

To restore just do the opposite:
dd if=/mnt/sdb1/sdaMBRandPartitionTableBackupFile of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1

Now for my dumb question. Where do I put the file? I don't have a floppy drive. I'd have to boot with something, wouldn't I? I have a SystemRescue CD that's bootable. If I put the partition table and MBR backup file on a flash drive, could I boot with SystemRescue, mount the flash drive, and run the reverse to restore?
--GrannyGeek
I would be afraid I would loose a flash drive, but sure, that would work. :) I personally would use a LiveCD (SystemRescueCD should indeed do the trick), save it whereever, say to / or the LiveCD's user home directory, and then email it to myself. Then all I need to restore the MBR is any LiveCD and an internet connection.

By all means shoot me a PM for other questions or start a thread and PM me the link. :)

DrCR
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 07, 2007, 08:03:55 pm
Thanks for answering my questions about where to save the backed up MBR and partition table. Never fear, I'll have the file stashed in multiple locations.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Masta on December 07, 2007, 09:33:58 pm
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Since Vector 5.8 i have problems with keymap during installation. On beginning i chose Polish (PL). Then i start installation. After all setups at end "vector" ask me if i want to save keyboard layout (en-US). Dam no! I changed it at beginning and i still have to do this second time. Is it a bug or do i miss something?
During the boot up, you chose PL, which is so that the system (CD) will begin to boot and your keyboard will be usable during installation. It's not actually part of the installation, it's just running from the CD at this point.
 The second time, (when you are prompted to keep the us layout or not) is because the installation is preset to use the us key map, and now you must tell the installed settings to use the PL, just like you told the CD to do, this sets up the HD install to use the PL when it begins to boot up.

In other words, 1st time, tells the "CD" to use the PL. 2nd time tells the "HD Installed" to use the PL.

I hope this gives you an idea of what's going on there, and hopefully it makes sense too  :)

Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 07, 2007, 11:43:36 pm
I`ve been trying to add a user using vasm from root account. When it comes to 'enter user ID' it displays 1000, when I click 'next', it says 'ERROR, UIDs are numerical only'. It seems vasm treats this value as text not as numerical value; the script (or code) must be fixed.
is this from vasmCC or vasm?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on December 08, 2007, 12:44:40 am
Hello Uelsk,

to the fluxbox menu I have added nice icons. To me it looks good and if you think it will be a good idea let me know how to send the file to you.

Under Menu Office I have added xpdf.

Regards
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 08, 2007, 01:07:06 am
Hello Uelsk,

to the fluxbox menu I have added nice icons. To me it looks good and if you think it will be a good idea let me know how to send the file to you.

Under Menu Office I have added xpdf.

Regards
Pita, send it over.  :)

did you happen to check memory usage before and after adding the icons?

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rang501 on December 08, 2007, 01:44:19 am
I downloaded VL5.9 RC3 iso. md5 didnt match but i wanted to try it anyway. When installation is almost complete, an error is displayed: vlconfig2.tlz is corrupted or hard drive is full... After pressing enter, installer shows that Installation is done, after that new message comes: Vectorlinux is installed, but i'm not sure about configuration....
I rebooted my machine. I was suprised, when I saw a zenwalk's bootmanager (I used zenwalk before). So i tried to install it again. I chosed ext3 filesystem (before I chosed ext2) and continued. I saw same errors again. Rebooted and lilo throws some 99 number.
I tried booting with cd. It was almost successful, I was able to log in as root. Hmmm, what about setup screen?
Under root, I typed startx. Some errors only.
Then I typed vasm to configure x server. That didn't help, same error comed out.
Now I'm using VL 5.8 SOHO. I don't want to download RC3 iso again, because I have slow internet connection :).
I know that I have made a many mistakes while typing this message :D
Anyway, does anyone know, when VL 5.9 Final comes out?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: tab0reqq on December 08, 2007, 02:50:17 am
THX for Keyboard layout info. I dont know why i didnt came to this idea.

What about my other questions?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Witek Mozga on December 08, 2007, 03:51:28 am
is this from vasmCC or vasm?

The bug is from vasmCC, vasm behaves OK.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rjdohnert on December 08, 2007, 06:26:01 am
A few issues with 5.9 RC 3

VLC doesnt work
It peaks out the CPU so things like Flash dont play well at all
gslapt crashes constantly
ndiswrapper, even though you tell it to start on boot it doesnt
XFCE performance issues
mediaplayerconnectivity Firefox extention does not work with mplayer on this release

What I do like:

All common codecs supported
Beautiful theme
Quick boot time
Great support for older hardware
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 08, 2007, 07:05:47 am
I tried to run jpilot on the Turion laptop tonight. I had the exact same results as on the Athlon desktop. So either the method that worked on earlier releases needs to be modified or jpilot has some problems with the newer kernel or the other new stuff.

I tried jpilot on my Celeron desktop. Same result--Clie can't connect, so I can't sync. This time I copied all the relevant /usr/libpisock files from a VL5.8 partition on that computer (after moving the libpisock newer version files to get them out of the way), ran ldconfig, and tried making a connection with the Clie. Same result, so it's not just the newer libpisock. Something else must be going on. When 5.9 goes Final, I'll compile jpilot and see if that will get it going.
--GrannyGeek
can you try to upgrade pilot-link and jpilot from slapt-get/gslapt and tell us if it helps at all?
Thanks
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: MikeCindi on December 08, 2007, 08:14:11 am
Had some time to play and got wireless working for the first time ever. After reading several reports at the ndiswrapper site that both wireless devices (PCMCIA and USB) were now working...well here I am. As for rc3 I'm finding that for my hardware (Toshiba Satellite A15) all work well so far. I did note that the latest TuxOnIce hibernate script 1.97 did not work (I failed to mention this in previous posts since 1.96 did work). Thanks for fixing the login problems I was having (or if nothing was done differently it work correctly now). I still have to work on USB connections under VirtualBox (in particular ActiveSync while emulating WinXP). I doubt that the change from VL 5.8 to 5.9 will have fixed this but I'll be hopeful for another few hours.
BTW, my laptop loads the Toshiba modules but they have never added any functionality. Just thought caitlyn would like to know.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rjdohnert on December 08, 2007, 09:14:14 am
5.9 RC3 was the only version I could get the WG121 netgear adaptor to work even with ndiswrapper.  I was impressed.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Joe1962 on December 08, 2007, 09:39:23 am
What I found a little off-putting was the fact that Vl-hot didn't handle optical media. So any USB mass storage device would be automounted, but I had to go and use something like the Xfce mount applet to mount a CD. HAL handles all removable media, which makes it a bit more seamless.
I really tried to get optical media working, but since I refuse to poll for them and such drives do not signal media change, there is no way that I know of. So you can say it's "by design"... ;)

:( It looks as though /media is now the norm, at least for things like HAL. I don't much like the idea of splitting mount point up, so maintaining both /mnt and /media seems a bit silly.
We follow the Linux FSH (file system hierarchy) conventions, so both are used. (BEGIN RANT) What I don't understand is why they had to go and "invent" /media, when /mnt was perfectly good for it's purpose and also the long-time standard (END RANT)... >:(
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on December 08, 2007, 10:04:26 am
What I found a little off-putting was the fact that Vl-hot didn't handle optical media. So any USB mass storage device would be automounted, but I had to go and use something like the Xfce mount applet to mount a CD. HAL handles all removable media, which makes it a bit more seamless.
I really tried to get optical media working, but since I refuse to poll for them and such drives do not signal media change, there is no way that I know of. So you can say it's "by design"... ;)

I wonder if is to much work to make the device one dollar more expensive and add that feature. Are hardware manufacturers too lazy or what? In the long term, is much more inefficient to use a daemon for that. And looks pretty easy since many cheap devices send a signal to the system.

A very minor thing, please let me know if I am thinking too much. Are the screen savers too much resource consuming? Reading gkrellm logs I noted the usage of the cpu, and even the gpu is very intensive. The gpu temp is a little high also, after some time running the screen saver. Perhaps we could use something more green.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: newt on December 08, 2007, 12:24:14 pm
What I found a little off-putting was the fact that Vl-hot didn't handle optical media. So any USB mass storage device would be automounted, but I had to go and use something like the Xfce mount applet to mount a CD. HAL handles all removable media, which makes it a bit more seamless.
I really tried to get optical media working, but since I refuse to poll for them and such drives do not signal media change, there is no way that I know of. So you can say it's "by design"... ;)
Do you know if a signal is sent when the drive is ejected/opened?  I assume not, but if I happen to be wrong then perhaps starting to poll the device at that signal point for a duration could work as a proxy (for say the next 3-4 minutes) and then when the time duration was up the polling would stop regardless of mounting or not.

On another note, IIRC, there was mention somewhere on our forum that some manufacturers may begin adding the "signals".  Does that ring any bells?  If that's actually true, could vl-hot be configured to auto-mount when those types of "signals" are received?

Mostly hopeful thinking here :D ;D
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Joe1962 on December 08, 2007, 12:28:07 pm
Well, as long as an udev event is generated (that is: catchable by an udev rule), vl-hot can act on it.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: caitlyn on December 08, 2007, 02:07:29 pm
More bugs to report:

1. Using HAL, I insert a 512MB Lexar Jump Drive.  The icon that appears on the Xfce desktop is a printer icon.  The drive functions normally and everything (mount, unmount, Thunar) work as expected.  It's just the icon.

2. Reboot still doesn't work on my Toshiba laptop as described for RC2.

I had thought about mime type associations in Thunar but didn't have time to play with it before filing my last report.  Yep, that's where the problem lies.  Should be an easy fix for the developers, thankfully...

re: /media and /mnt, I agree with Joe1962's rant, but... /media has become the de facto standard for most distros as has HAL.  I actually really like having a choice between VL-HOT and HAL.  What I *HATE* is the fact that the two assign totally different mount points.  I'd like to see some consistency here.  I also agree the VL-HOT's mount points are terribly long at the command line.  I'm a sys admin by trade so I tend to do a lot at the command line.  HAL may not be perfect and I like not having constant polling but it sure is easier to work with.

-Cait
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 08, 2007, 02:12:39 pm
can you try to upgrade pilot-link and jpilot from slapt-get/gslapt and tell us if it helps at all?
Thanks

I upgraded pilot-link and jpilot from Gslapt today on the Turion laptop. No improvement. When I started jpilot in a terminal and tried to sync as user, I got this:
me:$ jpilot
pi_bind error: /dev/ttyUSB1 Permission denied
Check your serial port and settings
Exiting with status SYNC_ERROR_BIND
Finished

I had granted read/write permissions for /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 to all before I started jpilot and I checked to make sure the permissions were indeed correct. After every unsuccessful attempt to connect, /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 disappear and I have to mknod again. usbserial and visor modules are loaded.

I noticed that the updated pilot-link I installed through Gslapt doesn't seem to put the pilot-link utilities anywhere. In comparing the pilot-link files on my Toshiba that come installed with RC3 with the files on my Turion after updating pilot-link, there seems to be nothing there on the Turion. The RC3 pilot-link has a bunch of pilot-xxxx files in /usr/bin, such as pilot-install-user, pilot-addresses, pilot-xfer,and many more, but none of these files are in /usr/bin on the Turion with the upgraded pilot-link. In fact, a locate command on the Turion shows NO pilot-* files at all and no install-user files or anything close. So it seems the upgraded pilot-link from the VL repos installs nothing relevant except a libpisock.rules file.

I booted into Windows on the Turion to make sure the Clie was working properly. It was--no problem syncing in Windows.

Does this give any clues?
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: MikeCindi on December 08, 2007, 02:20:23 pm
After doing so well earlier now I managed to break things by loading KDE. Since that time I have been unable to get wireless working again. Also and unfortunately I didn't try to load VirtualBox (1.5.2) before KDE...the vboxdrv module never would load (at least in the several attempts that I made). Then I downloaded the rc3.1 xdelta and it failed to update rc3 under both VL-5.9rc3 (after loading KDE) and 5.8 SOHO due to an error. I'll give the exact error later (if anyone wants it) as I'm in WinXP right now. Also noted that vasm wouldn't change the login manager to xdm after loading KDE. Anyway, will try again with rc3.1 and see how it goes...
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on December 08, 2007, 05:01:28 pm
Hello Uelsk,

to the fluxbox menu I have added nice icons. To me it looks good and if you think it will be a good idea let me know how to send the file to you.

Under Menu Office I have added xpdf.

Regards
Pita, send it over.  :)

Coming to your e-mail address.

did you happen to check memory usage before and after adding the icons?

576 more bytes.

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 08, 2007, 05:29:19 pm
Several minutes ago I had a recurrence of what has been an occasional problem since RC1.7 or so. I lost my wireless connection on the Turion suddenly--router was fine. I tried running VLwifi again and it appeared to set up the connection, but I couldn't get to any Web site and was unable to ping anything. From past experience I know that only a reboot will get the connection working again.

This time it took three cold boots before the wireless connection worked. After two cold boots that failed to reestablish wireless, I booted into Vista to make sure the problem wasn't with the hardware. It wasn't. Wireless came right up under Vista. So then I booted into VL.

I had to rerun VLwifi in order to establish the connection. Also, I noticed that /etc/rc.d/rc.inet3 was overwritten (probably because I ran VLwifi again) and the modprobe ndiswrapper that I added was gone. That's probably why I had to run VLwifi again on the third cold boot.

I don't know why this happens.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: caitlyn on December 08, 2007, 06:08:34 pm
Good:  k3b now handles mp3 -> CD audio burns.  This didn't work in RC2.

Not so good:  On systems with two network cards (ethernet + atheros chipset wireless PCMCIA) the installer correctly recognizes both cards.  It also allows for starting WiFi on boot.  However, WiFi is not configured and doesn't autoconfigure either.  Some other Slack-based distros (i.e. Wolvix, AliXe) seem to do this just fine without manual configuration if an open WiFi hotspot is available.  Not a bug but a niggle that makes VL a little less user friendly.  Once configured WiFi works just fine.

-Cait
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on December 08, 2007, 06:20:00 pm
I just found that in /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall iptable is stated as being at /sbin/iptables, whereas they are at  /usr/sbin/iptables as in VL-5.8.

Which one would be right?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 08, 2007, 06:30:14 pm
I just found that in /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall iptable is stated as being at /sbin/iptables, whereas they are at  /usr/sbin/iptables as in VL-5.8.

Which one would be right?
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root:# which iptables
/usr/sbin/iptables
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: MikeCindi on December 08, 2007, 06:41:20 pm
VirtualBox does not seem to like rc3.x. The kernel module vboxdrv.ko fails to load. Didn't have this issue before. Will try to compile a different kernel...(2.6.22.12 and before worked okay and 2.6.23.1 worked).

TuxOnIce hibernate script 1.97 still not working but 1.96 does. Perhaps my source file is bad. Will check that out too.

Tried to xdelta rc3.1 to 3.2 and got another error: "invalid trailing magic number" whatever that means.

I really like the login manager graphics in rc3.1. The default icon set is nice but takes a bit to get used to (for me at least).

The change between rc3 to rc3.1 seemed to run much more smoothly on my laptop...not sure why but that's good.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: caitlyn on December 08, 2007, 08:14:07 pm
RC3.1 and RC3.2?  I must have missed something here.  Where do these live?  I'm still testing on RC3.

-Cait
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Masta on December 08, 2007, 09:53:25 pm
My X stared also without any problems. Now i need to know: do i have to install additional Intel 945GM drivers for my integrated GMA950? Actually graphic works but... UT2004 demo on Windows was easy to play. On Linux i have 2-10FPS instad of 40++.
I'm not sure about this, but seems like maybe xorg.conf might need additional configuring. Check to see if you have dri enabled (as in no # in front of it). If unsure, just paste a copy of your xorg.conf, so someone can help you with this.

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Another question: how to enable OSD volume up/down on my HP nx7300 laptop? I can easy rise and lower brightness (but without OSD info - ubuntu has it). And I CAN'T lower/rise volume with hardware button on my laptop. Mute works (also hardware button) but volume control no.
You might be interested in "hotkeys" http://penguin-soft.com/penguin/man/1/hotkeys.html
If you're not comfortable with compiling this yourself , there is a place on forum to request packages, I think KDE has something of it's own for multimedia keys and OSD, If you don't want to use KDE, then HotKeys is probably the better way.
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Question bout HDD on battery: do i need to change smth on ACPI to avoid hdd problems while i work on battery?
battery should be supported just add it on the panel

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How works speedstep on laptop? On windows i had NHC Notebook Hardware Control with 2 most important switches: max battery and max performance. Does Vector makes it automatically? I never used laptop with Linux thats why i ask.

HINTS?
Try vcpufreq (Menu/system/vcpufreq)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 08, 2007, 11:46:20 pm
RC3.1 and RC3.2?  I must have missed something here.  Where do these live?  I'm still testing on RC3.

-Cait
these are snapshot versions in my dir in the repo.
keep in mind when you try versions not announced some functionality may have regressed and sometimes they dont work at all  ;)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 09, 2007, 12:07:06 am
GrannyGeek, can you try updating the pilot-link package from slapt-get/gslapt again.
vec says he has them fixed now :)

Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: BlueMage on December 09, 2007, 05:38:51 am
Have replicated the no-text problem - seems to occur when I set video to xorg, kill the xserver from runlevel 2 and jump back into it.  If I boot straight into GUI I get the ghost text described earlier.

However, I also find I can't run either fluxbox nor jwm.  Fluxbox returns an error of not being able to connect to the Xserver, jwm returns an error of not being able to open the display device.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: tab0reqq on December 09, 2007, 06:05:17 am
Masta, first of all - thank you so much :) Only You answered my questions :) I think paritialy im satisfied :)

My DRI:
Code: [Select]
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
But maybe its becouse of poor overall OpenGL performance on GMA950? In Windows it uses DirectX.

Back to OSD stuff. I started to search for it on net. Still no results but i'll try. Worst thing is:
- I can mute sound by hp nx7300 mute button but I can't lower/rise volume with this nx7300 keys. On Ubuntu all worked out of box (osd also).
I alse tried other keyboard layouts without results.

Volume icon shows i have 0% volume but in fact its more than 50% :) -- bug ?

Do i need to run vcpufreq everytime i want to switch profile? I also checked in XFCE taskbar (CPU Frequency Monitor). First i used vcpufreq (all works - cpu is scaled). When i use this XFCE plugin i can chose between performance/power profiles. I can chose different frequency for each core but it does not affect my cpu.
Is it a bug? Or do i need to change smth?
Is it possible to add by default vcpufreq to be run as a normal user not root?

Is it possible to add startup resolution (in frame buffer as i think) 1280x800? 15.4" widescreen laptops are very popular and only standard 800x600,1024x768 and 1280x1024 doesnt fit there.

LOL ! I dont know how to hibernate on Vector. OMG... help?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: MikeCindi on December 09, 2007, 08:38:13 am
LOL ! I dont know how to hibernate on Vector. OMG... help?
TuxOnIce (formerly suspend2) is now patched into the VL default kernel. Thus you will need to define a place to hibernate to (either swap or a file). I have only used the swap space although setting up a file seems to be easy enough (I just don't want to to use more disk space for such a limited purpose.) Your defined file or swap needs to be at least the size of your installed RAM. Thus appending the boot parameter in lilo or grub (replace /dev/hda7 with your swap partition):
Code: [Select]
resume=swap:/dev/hda7will tell TOI where to hibernate to. Then download and run as root the hibernate script from www.tuxonice.net/downloads (I have had problems with 1.97 but it obviously works for many others as it has not yet been updated). There is a testing process in the documentation of that script. That's about it other than running as root
Code: [Select]
hibernate
HTH,
Mike
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Mihail121-tera on December 09, 2007, 04:04:59 pm
Just installed, IT ROCKS!!! Really, a huge step forward. I found the distribution runs very smooth, all hardware is found and configured, wireless is fine and I even had luck installing my USB TV stick, with the drivers a friend of mine wrote (very few distributions run them correctly because of gliches in the USB drivers). Congratulations!
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 09, 2007, 07:56:27 pm
Volume icon shows i have 0% volume but in fact its more than 50% :) -- bug ?

Right-click on the volume icon, select Properties, don't change anything, click on Close. The volume level should show after that. It sure seems like a bug, but an easily fixed one.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 09, 2007, 09:40:16 pm
GrannyGeek, can you try updating the pilot-link package from slapt-get/gslapt again.
vec says he has them fixed now :)

I updated pilot-link through Gslapt and I was able to run pilot-install-user. I was able to sync using J-Pilot, but only when I ran it as root. Also, my /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 disappear whenever I run jpilot and I have to remake them before I can run jpilot again.

Starting jpilot as user I can't connect. There is this message in the terminal:
pi_bind error: /dev/ttyUSB1 Permission denied
Check your serial port and settings
Exiting with status SYNC_ERROR_BIND
Finished

If I try to do a hot sync again, I get this:
pi_bind error: /dev/ttyUSB1 No such file or directory
Check your serial port and settings
Exiting with status SYNC_ERROR_BIND
Finished

I have to remake/dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 as root and set the permissions for the ports to aw.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 09, 2007, 09:44:00 pm
GrannyGeek, can you try updating the pilot-link package from slapt-get/gslapt again.
vec says he has them fixed now :)

I updated pilot-link through Gslapt and I was able to run pilot-install-user. I was able to sync using J-Pilot, but only when I ran it as root. Also, my /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 disappear whenever I run jpilot and I have to remake them before I can run jpilot again.

Starting jpilot as user I can't connect. There is this message in the terminal:
pi_bind error: /dev/ttyUSB1 Permission denied
Check your serial port and settings
Exiting with status SYNC_ERROR_BIND
Finished

If I try to do a hot sync again, I get this:
pi_bind error: /dev/ttyUSB1 No such file or directory
Check your serial port and settings
Exiting with status SYNC_ERROR_BIND
Finished

I have to remake/dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 as root and set the permissions for the ports to aw.
--GrannyGeek

Can you post the output of lsusb with the device plugged in?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Masta on December 09, 2007, 09:46:58 pm
My DRI:
Code: [Select]
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
But maybe its becouse of poor overall OpenGL performance on GMA950? In Windows it uses DirectX.
I'm not quite sure if it's a OpenGL vs Direct X issue, There are some thread throughout this forum about the Intel chipsets. Nvidia is my thing as far as the video goes. You can search the forums with the word Intel, and see if your issue with that might already be solved.
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Back to OSD stuff. I started to search for it on net. Still no results but i'll try. Worst thing is:
- I can mute sound by hp nx7300 mute button but I can't lower/rise volume with this nx7300 keys. On Ubuntu all worked out of box (osd also).
I alse tried other keyboard layouts without results.
At the current , I don't think that VectorLinux has OSD. I found a couple of applications dealing with OSD, but I haven't had much time to package for the repository. Maybe someone else will have one sooner.
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Volume icon shows i have 0% volume but in fact its more than 50% :) -- bug ?
GrannyGeek answered this very well. Try that suggestion and see if that works for you.

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Do i need to run vcpufreq everytime i want to switch profile? I also checked in XFCE taskbar (CPU Frequency Monitor). First i used vcpufreq (all works - cpu is scaled). When i use this XFCE plugin i can chose between performance/power profiles. I can chose different frequency for each core but it does not affect my cpu.
Is it a bug? Or do i need to change smth?
Is it possible to add by default vcpufreq to be run as a normal user not root?
I Just vcpufreq. Works ok for me, so I am unsure about this one. But that CPU Information doesn't work for me either. Maybe it's a bug there. I looked and that thing is still in beta, so maybe that stuff needs to be ironed out yet. On this link http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-cpufreq-plugin (http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-cpufreq-plugin) you can see it's beta. Also it has place near bottom of page to report bugs, if you want.
you can su in terminal type password, and command vcpufreq. This will open it under normal user. It is root privilege only since it deals with the "system".

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Is it possible to add startup resolution (in frame buffer as i think) 1280x800? 15.4" widescreen laptops are very popular and only standard 800x600,1024x768 and 1280x1024 doesnt fit there.

No. FB  currently only supports standard resolutions. Maybe the author(s) / maintainer(s) of that will expand it sometime in the future  :-\

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LOL ! I dont know how to hibernate on Vector. OMG... help?

I don't either  ;D , but I think that you'll need to do some tweaking to the Lilo. Sorry, I'm no help there.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on December 10, 2007, 12:18:29 am

However, I also find I can't run either fluxbox nor jwm.  Fluxbox returns an error of not being able to connect to the Xserver, jwm returns an error of not being able to open the display device.

If you start from the console try: startx /usr/bin/fluxbox or /jwm
or use xwmconfig to set your desktop.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rjdohnert on December 10, 2007, 08:41:43 am
More annoyances:

xfmedia not present
slapt-get is a useless system, does not resolve dependencies, netpkg from Zenwalk is a much better system
Glsapt is annoying.  Will crash all of a sudden, will lock up with no explanation if it loses connection.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Mihail121-tera on December 10, 2007, 10:45:33 am
Volume icon shows i have 0% volume but in fact its more than 50% :) -- bug ?

Right-click on the volume icon, select Properties, don't change anything, click on Close. The volume level should show after that. It sure seems like a bug, but an easily fixed one.
--GrannyGeek

Thanks, mate. I think it's a glitch with the new XFCE but I'm too lazy to read the source now :)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 10, 2007, 11:09:44 am
Volume icon shows i have 0% volume but in fact its more than 50% :) -- bug ?

Right-click on the volume icon, select Properties, don't change anything, click on Close. The volume level should show after that. It sure seems like a bug, but an easily fixed one.
--GrannyGeek

Thanks, mate. I think it's a glitch with the new XFCE but I'm too lazy to read the source now :)
It was actually a glitch in the way i built the first 4.4.2 package.
I switched the configure onptions on xfce-mixer. the new package should fix them .
the best way to test this would be upgrade the package and then create a new user and see if it works for them.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Mihail121-tera on December 10, 2007, 12:35:35 pm
Volume icon shows i have 0% volume but in fact its more than 50% :) -- bug ?

Right-click on the volume icon, select Properties, don't change anything, click on Close. The volume level should show after that. It sure seems like a bug, but an easily fixed one.
--GrannyGeek

Thanks, mate. I think it's a glitch with the new XFCE but I'm too lazy to read the source now :)
It was actually a glitch in the way i built the first 4.4.2 package.
I switched the configure onptions on xfce-mixer. the new package should fix them .
the best way to test this would be upgrade the package and then create a new user and see if it works for them.

A damn! I couldn't wait to dig down in them sources and spend 5 hours compiling ;D Will upgrade package tomorrow to test if it works.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: lagagnon on December 10, 2007, 01:29:25 pm
slapt-get is a useless system, does not resolve dependencies, netpkg from Zenwalk is a much better system
That's a little harsh don't you think? I don't have any problems with slapt-get here. The dependancy thing is just fine as long as the package was built correctly - if so, it will get the dependancies for you and install them first. Can you tell us what package you were attempting to install with slapt-get, where it failed, and the errors you were getting please?
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Glsapt is annoying.  Will crash all of a sudden, will lock up with no explanation if it loses connection.
I don't have that problem here either. Can you post to this thread the uncommented SOURCE lines of your /etc/slapt-get/slapt-getrc file, so we can see what servers you were using? Also, were you doing a "Mark All Upgrades, Execute" by any chance? Or if not, what package were you attempting to install when it hung?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on December 10, 2007, 05:41:13 pm
I plugged my tv at the nvidia card. I enabled it through the nvidia-setting app and everything works, I can see movies on the tv :), but some apps wont work anymore, including nvidia-settings. Blender, all the games, OO, are some of them. All I get is segmentation fault. I googled a while and seems to be a common problem but it is related to many causes. I am not using twinview, both screens are independent. Any clues?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Dweeberkitty on December 10, 2007, 05:47:57 pm
I plugged my tv at the nvidia card. I enabled it through the nvidia-setting app and everything works, I can see movies on the tv :), but some apps wont work anymore, including nvidia-settings. Blender, all the games, OO, are some of them. All I get is segmentation fault. I googled a while and seems to be a common problem but it is related to many causes. I am not using twinview, both screens are independent. Any clues?

Wow, that is weird. No problem here.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 10, 2007, 07:38:17 pm
Can you post the output of lsusb with the device plugged in?

Here it is:

root:# lsusb
Bus 1 Device 1: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 2 Device 2: ID 046d:c521 Logitech, Inc.
Bus 2 Device 1: ID 0000:0000 

That was with the Clie plugged in and turned on. It's the same with the Clie not plugged in:

root:# lsusb
Bus 1 Device 1: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 2 Device 2: ID 046d:c521 Logitech, Inc.
Bus 2 Device 1: ID 0000:0000 

I wanted to see what the output was if I tried to get some activity between the Clie and the computer, so I pressed the Hotsync button. Nothing happened, of course (J-Pilot wasn't running). The output from lsusb was the same as above and /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 disappeared after the attempt, as usual.

I then remade the ports, started jpilot as user, hit Hotsync, and did lsusb while the Clie was trying to connect to the computer. I got this:
root:# lsusb
Bus 1 Device 1: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 2 Device 4: ID 054c:0066 Sony Corp. Clie PEG-N7x0C/PEG-T425 PalmOS PDA Serial
Bus 2 Device 2: ID 046d:c521 Logitech, Inc.
Bus 2 Device 1: ID 0000:0000 

This is what I got from dmesg while I was attempting the connection:
usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4
usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
usb 2-1: palm_os_4_probe - error -32 getting connection info
visor 2-1:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter detected
usb 2-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB0
usb 2-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1
usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 4
visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1
visor 2-1:1.0: device disconnected


I then remade the ports and ran jpilot as root. As before, I successfully hotsynced. So it works as root but not as user and I don't understand why; the ports have 0666 permissions. Users have read, write, and execute permissions with /usr/bin/jpilot and its related files.

I hope this reveals something.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: BlueMage on December 10, 2007, 07:56:19 pm

However, I also find I can't run either fluxbox nor jwm.  Fluxbox returns an error of not being able to connect to the Xserver, jwm returns an error of not being able to open the display device.

If you start from the console try: startx /usr/bin/fluxbox or /jwm
or use xwmconfig to set your desktop.

Will attempt, though this method doesn't seem too different to what I've tried already :/  Still, haven't tried teh xwmconfig yet, so that may make a difference.  Will report shortly.

Edit:  Hah, bloody brilliant!  Flux works a treat now (I've always been partial to fluxbox since I've been messing around with DSL - something about it just appeals to me).  Will now test jwm.

Edit2:  Huh, that's interesting ... xorg appears to work fine without the ghost text I've come to associate with xfce.  However, I now get black bars top'n'bottom, as though I were using a widescreen background but didn't stretch it.  Hang on ... no, still ghost text - as in, not there at all.  I was confused by the text appearing in the dock up the top.  Frustrating :/

Edit3:  oooh, that's a problem - vasm doesn't seem to change the window manager when set.  Need to call xwmconfig seperately for that to happen.

Edit4:  Exit on flux menu appears to cause machine to crash.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: BlueMage on December 10, 2007, 08:16:27 pm
Ok, this merits an entire new post.

What in the Nine Hells gives?  So I finish fiddling with the other WMs, for sake of completeness set it back to xorg in vasm, start xfce.

Imagine my surprise when all the text appears perfectly.  No ghostliness, no disappearing acts - it's all just ... perfectly normal.

I hate computers at times :/
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 10, 2007, 09:11:36 pm
GrannyGeek,
from what I gather from google you need to blacklist the visor module, and upgrade this http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/Uelsk8s/80-libpisock.rules file
it goes into /etc/udev/rules.d
make sure to take out the othe XX-libpisock.rules file

let us know if it helps
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on December 10, 2007, 09:21:34 pm
An update, I ran nvidia-xconfig to get vanilla xorg.conf for the nvidia card and all the apps work. I switched to twinview and works too, but I get maximized windows of 5000 pixels, which is annoying. So the problem is with two independent screens. This looks like an issue with the nvidia driver and not related with Vector at all, so I will stop posting about it here. I will keep looking for a solution and open another thread in the X forum if necessary.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on December 11, 2007, 03:05:47 am
Ok, this merits an entire new post.

I hate computers at times :/

May be that's your problem. You have to love them and treat them gently as you would a woman. (Guess my gender?). 8)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: BlueMage on December 11, 2007, 03:34:01 am
Nine Hells!  It was WORKING!  xorg was bloody working before I restarted.  And now?  Ghost text again.  This is getting frustrating.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Mihail121-tera on December 11, 2007, 05:57:47 am
I'll take on the Transmission not downloading everything issue once again. It just so happens, that torrents, for which Transmission would give "Tracker not found" error run perfectly smooth with rtorrent or ctorrent. Not that I have a problem with installing a package in 4 seconds, but Transmission just takes extra space.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: BlueMage on December 11, 2007, 06:04:52 am
Ok, this merits an entire new post.

I hate computers at times :/

May be that's your problem. You have to love them and treat them gently as you would a woman. (Guess my gender?). 8)

I'm an engineer - I don't treat anything gently :D

Also, my hatred is justified - I can't seem to replicate the same series of events that led to xorg working before - I just keep getting the ghost-text.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Mihail121-tera on December 11, 2007, 07:24:08 am
I'm an engineer - I don't treat anything gently :D

Does Santa know about this?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: caitlyn on December 11, 2007, 11:40:52 am
More annoyances:

xfmedia not present
slapt-get is a useless system, does not resolve dependencies, netpkg from Zenwalk is a much better system
Glsapt is annoying.  Will crash all of a sudden, will lock up with no explanation if it loses connection.

xfmedia was an optional package in VL 5.8 in the Extra repository.  That's likely where it will end up again.  XMMS is far superior to xfmedia, as is xine.

slapt-get can resolve dependencies just fine.  It certainly did in VL 5.8.  It does for Slackware 12.  It does for Wolvix 1.1 as well.  What dependencies didn't it resolve for you?  What went wrong specifically?  What is so much better about netpkg?  (Methinks nothing.)

I've not had the problems you've seen in gslapt.  Perhaps if you can post details of what you were doing when it crashed or locked the developers can work on it. 
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: BlueMage on December 11, 2007, 03:40:52 pm
Well, this morning I'm back to fully disappearing ghost text across all WMs when using xorg.  No amount of fiddling and replicating past sequences of events could break it.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on December 11, 2007, 06:46:32 pm
During setup, I ran into some weird business along the lines of "setup not complete, are you sure you want to quit?" after I chose the time zone (US/Eastern, I believe). Otherwise no bugs so far.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on December 11, 2007, 10:13:53 pm
Well, this morning I'm back to fully disappearing ghost text across all WMs when using xorg.  No amount of fiddling and replicating past sequences of events could break it.

Bluemage, have you alrady told this forum what kind of graphic card you have?

I had a hell of a problem with mine with this new xorg until Uelsk was able to make a new driver which works now for my savage card. Or could your off and on working xorg indicate some hardware problem, monitor, HD not related to the sofware? Just guessing. The people on this forum are rather good on sorting things out if the correct information is supplied step by step.

In the meantime just stay cool.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: vector on December 12, 2007, 12:24:26 am
Bluemage, I would like you to try something for me please. First download these two files and install them via installpkg:
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/Uelsk8s/libbash-0.9.10a-noarch-2vl59.tlz
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/Uelsk8s/xconfig-2.1.1-noarch-2vl59.tlz
then run in the Terminal xconfig -s 1024x768-24@75 then restart your xserver see if there is any improvement. First backup your /etc/x11/xorg.conf as this program overwrites without doing a backup. For a quick explanation you are making a new xorg.conf with the values of screen res 1024x768 color depth 24 bit at a frequency of 75mhz. If any of this will blow up your monitor then you can adjust the values, most importantly the @75 can be reduced to @60 which is safe for anything built in the last fifteen years. Not sure if this will do anything to help but its a new program we are experimenting with that shows promise. If anyone else would like to experiment with this feel free and let us know.

cheers,
vec
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: BlueMage on December 12, 2007, 04:00:46 am
Will test and report back shortly.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: BlueMage on December 12, 2007, 04:25:56 am
Well, this morning I'm back to fully disappearing ghost text across all WMs when using xorg.  No amount of fiddling and replicating past sequences of events could break it.

Bluemage, have you alrady told this forum what kind of graphic card you have?

I had a hell of a problem with mine with this new xorg until Uelsk was able to make a new driver which works now for my savage card. Or could your off and on working xorg indicate some hardware problem, monitor, HD not related to the sofware? Just guessing. The people on this forum are rather good on sorting things out if the correct information is supplied step by step.

In the meantime just stay cool.

I ... think I might've forgotten that.  Sorry, my bad.  It's an onboard Intel graphics ... gimme a sec...

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

There, that's from lspci.  I'm pretty sure the monitor is fine - it's a Samsung Syncmaster that I use as part of my dual-monitor setup for my vista box and has shown no problems with that.  The graphics hardware I'm not so sure about - this machine was a custom job put together for us by a not-so-reputable computer repair group in Cairns (before my parents sufficiently trusted my skills so far as putting these things together) and they made what I consider to be some questionable design choices. 

Now, to try out what Vector recommended.

Sorry Vec, can't say the results are good.  Text has become miniturised, and icons are now bunched up.  I've tried specifying both 1024x726 and 1280x1024 with the same result - it almost looks like, in terms of desktop space, I've got it set to 800x600.  Text is also visible but ghostly/transparent.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on December 12, 2007, 05:15:50 am
I have no idea whether this problem is limited to the 5.9 setup (I don't currently have anything other than 5.9 RC3 installed). Strange problem it is....

I fired up info to check for the full bash manual (which doesn't seem to be there anyway...). The directory node only showed one entry:

Code: [Select]
libcdio: (libcdio).      Compact Disc Input and Control Library.
So I thought I would use install-info to update the complete list. Did that, and started info again. Same result. So I deleted /usr/info/dir.gz and ran install-info again. When I started info, the full contents was there. Thinking I had the problem solved, I gzipped /usr/info/ir. Only to find that the problem returned. Only one entry in the top node.

I had built Pinfo for Zenwalk a few days ago, so I tried installing it. Started it, and even though I had the same item as the top node entry, I could access the rest of the topics. However, unless I use an uncompressed /usr/info/dir, I cannot access anything excelpt libcdio using the normal info command.

I've not managed to find another copy of dir lying around, and I also can't find an info file for licdio.

Argh! This is becoming confusing. Can anyone shed any light on what is going on?

paul
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on December 12, 2007, 08:52:22 am
Uncompress dir.gz
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 12, 2007, 10:48:24 am
I ... think I might've forgotten that.  Sorry, my bad.  It's an onboard Intel graphics ... gimme a sec...

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

BlueMage,
Can you post the output of lsmod.
there are some kernel modules that are supposed to help, but we have found they actually make some cards worse.
look for intel-agp drm and i915 in the ouput of lsmod
if they aren't there try adding them if they are try different combo's of them
also you can try the i810 driver if none of that works

Let us know,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: kazuya on December 12, 2007, 11:21:10 am
Task bar or panel below for xfce 4 sometimes dissappears when I right click on it.  If i right click on vlmenu icon from task bar to maybe change the icon, the icon disappears.

Right-Click Taskbar  -  -> it dissappears. This is not always the case and keep in mind that I tried installing and removing things like slacke17, superkaramba, icewm, etc from different places.. I removed them all, but issue still persists sometimes..

Most other times, it just works fine...  This OS flies given the bloat I have added to it....  And this is not a complaint..

EDIT: solution i found here:
http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4817.0

from Blurymind: pres alt+f2 on your keyboard
a little box will pop up
type "xfce4-panel" if you are in xfce and "kicker" (without quotes) if you are in kde.press enter and hope

this thread will be probably moved

From rbistolfi   -  Blury beat me, the problem surely was you non volunteering saved your session, since xfce do that by default. So the problem sticks on future login and even in reboots. 
Be sure to check the "save session" box when logout, so it will be there in the next login. Once the panel is back, I recommend to disable the "save session" thing. It causes more problems than solutions. You can do that from 'Settings' > 'Sessions and startup settings'. Uncheck the logout settings boxes.

I shall use this till the final release. I am impressed. So just mentioning for folks to be aware and see if they replicate same issue. But this would probably solves my problem. I may have caused it when I went into windowmaker and fluxbox.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: BlueMage on December 12, 2007, 02:51:10 pm
Alrighty, output of lsmod:

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Module                  Size  Used by
freq_table              4768  0
i915                   23296  0
drm                    74388  1 i915
snd_seq_dummy           3716  0
snd_seq_oss            32128  0
snd_seq_midi_event      7168  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                48720  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          7692  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            38048  0
snd_mixer_oss          15232  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_intel8x0           29980  0
snd_ac97_codec         98084  1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus                2944  1 snd_ac97_codec
eepro100               27664  0
mii                     5504  1 eepro100
snd_pcm                69764  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
i2c_i801                8592  0
serio_raw               6276  0
natsemi                26848  0
snd_timer              19972  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
intel_agp              22164  1
snd                    45796  10 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
agpgart                28108  2 drm,intel_agp
i2c_core               20992  1 i2c_i801
iTCO_wdt                9640  0
soundcore               7008  1 snd
snd_page_alloc          8712  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
shpchp                 30228  0
pci_hotplug            28616  1 shpchp
evdev                   8704  3

From that, it appears intel_agp, drm and i915 are all present.  Will now test i810 driver.

EDIT:  No appreciable difference when using the i810 driver.  Have decided to just use vesa driver at this point.

EDIT2:  Awesome, hundredth post - officially a Vectorite now 8)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Masta on December 12, 2007, 06:21:16 pm
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EDIT2:  Awesome, hundredth post - officially a Vectorite now Cool
Congratulations!, You now get the secret handshake  ;D
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: uelsk8s on December 12, 2007, 06:33:47 pm
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From that, it appears intel_agp, drm and i915 are all present.  Will now test i810 driver.
I think for your hardware you will have better lick using the intel or i810 drivers without the drm and i915 modules.
try dropping to runlevel 2 and removing those modules then starting X with the one of the intel drivers and see if you fair any better
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: BlueMage on December 12, 2007, 08:32:51 pm
No luck unfortunately :(

Used rmmod to remove the i915 and drm modules, altered xorg.conf driver to intel, startx and I get the same ghost text as earlier.  Drop back to level 2, check lsmod, both i915 and drm are loaded again.

Did the same thing with i810, same results unfortunately.

So for now, setting xorg.conf driver as "vesa" seems to give good results - right resolution, full mouse support and working graphics.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: wcs on December 12, 2007, 09:34:12 pm
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4. When starting in xfce, during the little splash screen, the background is completely blue, although in 5.8 the background (before the desktop image shows up) is black. Not wanting to be picky, but I find it very ugly that it goes from kdm to black, to blue, to black again, and finally to the desktop background image.
I'm not sure what causes that.

Try setting a background image for the login of KDM (see kdmrc) , see if that makes any difference.

I uncommented "UseBackground=False" in kdmrc and that did it. Now there is no blue screen showing up before the Xfce desktop image (and during the splash screen).
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: wcs on December 12, 2007, 10:48:52 pm
Strangely enough, the volume mixer bug now shows up all the time after reboot.
The reason seems to be that I plugged in a USB webcam that also has a microphone. When the camera is plugged in, the volume mixer always goes down to zero automatically. Although this can be fixed by going to properties and then closing, it doesn't survive reboots.

But even crazier, now this is also a problem in 5.8 Standard.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rjdohnert on December 13, 2007, 03:03:22 am
On my two test mobile PC's Vector 5.9 doesnt like them.  One is a Dell Inspiron 2500 and the other is a Gateway Solo 1150.  Wont even make it to the install process.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on December 13, 2007, 05:48:15 am
Strangely enough, the volume mixer bug now shows up all the time after reboot.
The reason seems to be that I plugged in a USB webcam that also has a microphone. When the camera is plugged in, the volume mixer always goes down to zero automatically. Although this can be fixed by going to properties and then closing, it doesn't survive reboots.

But even crazier, now this is also a problem in 5.8 Standard.

I had the same problem When the camera is plugged, it becomes the default soundcard. The howto from The Headeacher (http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4888.0) solved the problem.

(BTW, thanks the headeacher, I plugged the cam the same day you published the howto, just in time)
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on December 13, 2007, 05:51:00 am
On my two test mobile PC's Vector 5.9 doesnt like them.  One is a Dell Inspiron 2500 and the other is a Gateway Solo 1150.  Wont even make it to the install process.

Some more info could be useful. Does the installer hang? Does the install cd boot properly?.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: wcs on December 13, 2007, 08:20:50 am
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I had the same problem When the camera is plugged, it becomes the default soundcard. The howto from The Headeacher solved the problem.

Great! I'm going to try it. Thank you very much.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rjdohnert on December 13, 2007, 02:57:18 pm
On my two test mobile PC's Vector 5.9 doesnt like them.  One is a Dell Inspiron 2500 and the other is a Gateway Solo 1150.  Wont even make it to the install process.

Some more info could be useful. Does the installer hang? Does the install cd boot properly?.

The install CD wont boot properly, on both systems it says "loading linux" when it reaches that point it goes to a black screen and just stops.  That behavior is present in both systems.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rbistolfi on December 13, 2007, 03:11:53 pm
Did you check the MD5?
If the md5 matches, you could try some cheatcodes, at my box I have to pass noapic as a kernel parameter. I think pressing F1 or F3 at the prompt gives you a list of 'more used' kernel parameters.
Let us know.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rjdohnert on December 13, 2007, 03:31:32 pm
Did you check the MD5?
If the md5 matches, you could try some cheatcodes, at my box I have to pass noapic as a kernel parameter. I think pressing F1 or F3 at the prompt gives you a list of 'more used' kernel parameters.
Let us know.

Pressing F1 brings up a list of boot kernels.  F3 doesnt do anything, when I hit F1 and throw in 'linux noapic' it doesnt do anything.  I tried disabling Power Control in the Bios but that didnt help.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 13, 2007, 07:06:26 pm
GrannyGeek,
from what I gather from google you need to blacklist the visor module, and upgrade this http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/Uelsk8s/80-libpisock.rules file
it goes into /etc/udev/rules.d
make sure to take out the othe XX-libpisock.rules file

let us know if it helps

I'm happy to report that after I followed your directions, I can now sync as user. I added
/sbin/modprobe usbserial                                                       
/sbin/modprobe visor                                                           
/bin/mknod /dev/ttyUSB0 c 188 0                                                 
/bin/mknod /dev/ttyUSB1 c 188 1                                                 
/bin/chmod 0666 /dev/ttyUSB?                         

to /etc/rc.d/rc.local and I now have /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 ready at startup.

However, after a successful sync using jpilot, /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 disappear and I have to go through all those mknod and chmod commands if I want to sync again.

I've tried your fix on my Turion laptop--haven't had an opportunity to try it on another computer. If I have problems, I'll post a report.

Thanks for the solution!
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: lagagnon on December 13, 2007, 07:34:22 pm
Did you check the MD5?
If the md5 matches, you could try some cheatcodes, at my box I have to pass noapic as a kernel parameter. I think pressing F1 or F3 at the prompt gives you a list of 'more used' kernel parameters.
Let us know.

Pressing F1 brings up a list of boot kernels.  F3 doesnt do anything, when I hit F1 and throw in 'linux noapic' it doesnt do anything.  I tried disabling Power Control in the Bios but that didnt help.

It seems to me that is a bad burn or a faulty download of the ISO file. Please check the md5sum as the previous poster suggested.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: rang501 on December 16, 2007, 01:47:01 am
I downloaded and installed Vectorlinux 5.9 RC3 again, and now it is working quite well.
But some problems:
1. Some problems with opera.
2. I'm using laptop and I have problems with touchpad. I can't use scrolling buttons.
3. After closing xine, Pcm control in volume control goes to zero. There was an easy fix: Settings->Setup..->Audio->notify changes to hardware mixer and unchecked alsa hw mixer (*) option.

One best improvement is wireless support. I can use my rt61 wireless card :)
I like the new VasmCC :)

Good luck!
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: mr_volvo on December 16, 2007, 02:09:12 am
So i just installed 5.9 and my lappy loves me for giving the page file a slight rest (256mb and kde made for some fun computing). But I have a few problems:

-is there an openoffice for 5.9 yet, and if someone hasn't packaged it, has anyone tried compiling it successfully? (i can't really get out of using MS doc formats at work... at least not until I become the boss)

-now and then black lines appear on the screen. hey! it just happened while i was typing that. Text (or whatever belongs in that area of the screen) disappears and patchy black lines/single pixels appear in different places on the screen. I doubt it is a screen issue as minimising the window and then maximising it makes them go away. And as I have been typing this post sections of text disappear  and i need to move the cursor back over them to get them to reappear. ?? odd

-After installing i had to edit lilo.conf and set the vga mode to 'normal' as I got an error telling me I had 'passed an undefined video mode number'. I googled and this seemed to be the solution, but could this have something to do with my previous problem. I should add that the black lines were appearing before I edited lilo.conf and just pressed space to continue at the error message.

-my cd drive doesn't work. I had the same issue in 5.8 but not 5.8 soho. After plugging in the drive if I press the eject button nothing happens, where as in soho it would work immediately.

My pc is (as it says in my sig. a Dell Latitude C400)

I feel a bit bad saying all this in my first post about 5.9, but I should add that I love the new VasmCC and wifi radar actually works for me now! (It is just as easy to connect in VL as in windows). And of course its fast like a vector... :-p
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: JohnB316 on December 16, 2007, 06:50:40 am
So i just installed 5.9 and my lappy loves me for giving the page file a slight rest (256mb and kde made for some fun computing). But I have a few problems:

-is there an openoffice for 5.9 yet, and if someone hasn't packaged it, has anyone tried compiling it successfully? (i can't really get out of using MS doc formats at work... at least not until I become the boss)

Truthfully, OpenOffice is a PITA to build from source unless you have a ton of Gnome and other dependencies on your box at build time. (I've tried it, so I say that from experience.) With that said, there is a repackaging of the official binaries built by the OpenOffice folks at linuxpackages.net. It should work just fine on your box. In fact, I'm downloading it to mine as I type this post.

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-now and then black lines appear on the screen. hey! it just happened while i was typing that. Text (or whatever belongs in that area of the screen) disappears and patchy black lines/single pixels appear in different places on the screen. I doubt it is a screen issue as minimising the window and then maximising it makes them go away. And as I have been typing this post sections of text disappear  and i need to move the cursor back over them to get them to reappear. ?? odd

-After installing i had to edit lilo.conf and set the vga mode to 'normal' as I got an error telling me I had 'passed an undefined video mode number'. I googled and this seemed to be the solution, but could this have something to do with my previous problem. I should add that the black lines were appearing before I edited lilo.conf and just pressed space to continue at the error message.

Do you get this kind of artifacting all the time or just in VL? If you have another operating system on your box, do you get similar video artifacts when you are using it?

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-my cd drive doesn't work. I had the same issue in 5.8 but not 5.8 soho. After plugging in the drive if I press the eject button nothing happens, where as in soho it would work immediately.

This could either be a udev or a hal issue.

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My pc is (as it says in my sig. a Dell Latitude C400)

I feel a bit bad saying all this in my first post about 5.9, but I should add that I love the new VasmCC and wifi radar actually works for me now! (It is just as easy to connect in VL as in windows). And of course its fast like a vector... :-p

I'm glad that wifi-radar is actually working for you. ;-)

Cheers,
John
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: easuter on December 16, 2007, 03:34:18 pm
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-now and then black lines appear on the screen. hey! it just happened while i was typing that. Text (or whatever belongs in that area of the screen) disappears and patchy black lines/single pixels appear in different places on the screen. I doubt it is a screen issue as minimising the window and then maximising it makes them go away. And as I have been typing this post sections of text disappear  and i need to move the cursor back over them to get them to reappear. ?? odd

mr_volvo, what video driver are you using for xorg?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: turquoise on December 16, 2007, 03:59:45 pm
I downloaded and installed Vectorlinux 5.9 RC3 again, and now it is working quite well.
But some problems:
1. Some problems with opera.
2. I'm using laptop and I have problems with touchpad. I can't use scrolling buttons.
3. After closing xine, Pcm control in volume control goes to zero. There was an easy fix: Settings->Setup..->Audio->notify changes to hardware mixer and unchecked alsa hw mixer (*) option.

One best improvement is wireless support. I can use my rt61 wireless card :)
I like the new VasmCC :)

Good luck!


Can't help with issues 2 and 3 since I haven't had those problems but concerning Opera, I have had some problems where it would freeze when opening some pages and such. The problem is not with Vector but with Opera. I have solved the problem by deactivating the plug-in support and it worked. There is a well-known problem with some versions of Flash for instance. I don't know if it's the case for everyone, but it sure happened to me and to others. It's rather annoying, but there is still Firefox when I want to visit websites that use Flash...
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: mr_volvo on December 16, 2007, 11:33:50 pm
mr_volvo, what video driver are you using for xorg?

from xorg.conf
Code: [Select]
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver      "intel"
VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
BoardName   "82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]"
BusID       "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Being the intelligent human being I am I didn't backup my previous xorg before installing RC3, so I don't know what it used to be... But from what I've found on the net the laptop has an i830 chip.

John B316,
It had never happened until I installed 5.9 (and started immediately post install) but alas I cannot prove it is 5.9 as I am a one OS kinda guy... operating monogamously if you will.

Thanks for the linux packages tip, OO installed without any effort on my behalf and is running smoothly.

Regarding the CD drive: at install you get to chose the swanky non resource hogging method of mounting devices or the same system that everyone else uses, I chose the VL system. Could the other method be the default when installing 5.8 soho?
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: BlueMage on December 17, 2007, 12:43:13 am
The other (HAL) isn't a part of VL 5.8 SOHO - it's a new feature in 5.9
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Joe1962 on December 17, 2007, 10:59:43 am
Finally installed RC3 (inside vmware) and gave it a checkup. Here are my notes so far in a hierarchical list (hopefully not too late, though some of the issues may be history by now):

Code: [Select]
CONS:
Desktop icons
VASM: calls "vsuper vasmcc", rename icon to VASMCC
Panel
Menu button: too wide, selection box defeats purpose of shape
Program Launcher
vcpufreq, description: typo
vl-hot-config, description: thumbdrive???
Mixer applet: volume control works only after resetting in properties
Xfce Settings Manager
Desktop
Adjust Brightness: default=19, should be 0
File Manager
Advanced
Volume Management
Configure (Removable Drives and Media)
PDAs: set to unavailable gnome utilities
Printers: set to unavailable gnome utilities
Panel
Appearance (Size): default 36, too tall, maybe better 32, (I use 28)
User interface
Icon theme: default Vista-inspirate (still ugh!)
changing, then back to default => lost icons in Panel Menu,
recovered on logout/login
Window Manager
Advanced
Window snapping: default "Snap windows to other windows" disabled
Double click action: Unix/Linux default is shade, not maximized???
File system
/mnt: clean up!
Thunar
Hidden files: default show, should be hide?
Gimp
Help browser: shows a lot of "???TITLE???" entries on left pane
Gnumeric
Help
Contents: does nothing
K3b
Settings
Preferences
Programs: still some missing (normalize, transcode, vcdx*)
QT
qtconfig: default (root and user) theme is Motif, should be Polymer


PROS:
Xfce Settings Manager
Sessions and Startup
Logout settings
Automatically save session on logout: default disabled
User interface
Theme: Xfce-dawn (much better than previous ones)
Window Manager
Style: default Sassandra (better)
Thunar
Custom actions: nice selection!


NOTES (a few additional notes):
- xorg autoconfig works, except resolution selection, got 1024x768 instead of 1440x900, though Xfce Display Settings shows all of them.
- mouse wheel worked
- no Xfce terminal issues
- no Panel Menu "Quit" issues.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: wcs on December 18, 2007, 05:16:57 am
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Quote from: wcs on December 13, 2007, 12:48:52 AM
Strangely enough, the volume mixer bug now shows up all the time after reboot.
The reason seems to be that I plugged in a USB webcam that also has a microphone. When the camera is plugged in, the volume mixer always goes down to zero automatically. Although this can be fixed by going to properties and then closing, it doesn't survive reboots.

But even crazier, now this is also a problem in 5.8 Standard.

I had the same problem When the camera is plugged, it becomes the default soundcard. The howto from The Headeacher solved the problem.

Checking the default soundcard didn't do it. It seems that the right card (not the usb microphone) is the default. And indeed the sound works just fine. But whenever the camera is plugged in, volume always goes to 0%, until I go through the daily ritual of opening properties and closing.

I think I've seen this reported elsewhere, so I suppose the xfce-mixer people will eventually fix it.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: caitlyn on December 18, 2007, 12:08:16 pm
One clarification from a previous post of mine:

zip/unzip weren't correctly associated in Thunar but that wasn't the issue with rar/unrar.  They aren't included in the iso image at all.  It seems odd to me to leave out these small and very commonly used tools.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on December 18, 2007, 01:34:45 pm
Completely unrelated to Vector (well, almost). One of the beta/rcs had a 2.6.23.9(?) kernel. Can anyone tell me which one it was, and also if it is possible to install it without mucking up the existing setup?

Reason I ask is I'm also running a (very) beta version of Zenwalk on my T40. The latest version of Zenwalk includes a 2.6.23.9 kernel and I'm seeing some significant delays during boot. I don't recall seeing anything like that from the version of Vector that was using a similar version kernel, so I wanted to reinstall it just to check my findings...

paul.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: MikeCindi on December 18, 2007, 04:40:53 pm
I don't recall any with 2.6.23.9 but I think the first beta had 2.6.23.1.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Joe1962 on December 20, 2007, 08:53:10 am
Since ifplugd wasn't working, I went to vasm services and found that no services are active by default for runlevels 2 and 4, with the exception of gpm for runlevel 2.
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: Pita on December 20, 2007, 05:26:50 pm
Completely unrelated to Vector (well, almost). One of the beta/rcs had a 2.6.23.9(?) kernel. Can anyone tell me which one it was, and also if it is possible to install it without mucking up the existing setup?

Reason I ask is I'm also running a (very) beta version of Zenwalk on my T40. The latest version of Zenwalk includes a 2.6.23.9 kernel and I'm seeing some significant delays during boot. I don't recall seeing anything like that from the version of Vector that was using a similar version kernel, so I wanted to reinstall it just to check my findings...

Check this post in Distro Development.
new kernel to try.----2.6.23.1

Douwnload kernel and modules. Change suffix .tlz to .tgz
Open kernel with mc and copy pertinent files to /boot.
Open modules with mc and copy modules to /lib/modules/
Go to /boot and change the symlinks for the new kernel. 3 files.
Do lilo, to accommodate the new kernel and reboot.

If you want t change back to the old kernel, change the symlinks in boot, lilo, reboot. That way you muck up nothing.

Regards
Title: Re: VectorLinux5.9-rc3 bugs/annoyances
Post by: toothandnail on December 21, 2007, 10:35:38 am
Check this post in Distro Development.
new kernel to try.----2.6.23.1

 ;D Thanks for that. I had completely forgotten that the kernel was not part of one of the betas...

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Douwnload kernel and modules. Change suffix .tlz to .tgz
Open kernel with mc and copy pertinent files to /boot.
Open modules with mc and copy modules to /lib/modules/
Go to /boot and change the symlinks for the new kernel. 3 files.
Do lilo, to accommodate the new kernel and reboot.

If you want t change back to the old kernel, change the symlinks in boot, lilo, reboot. That way you muck up nothing.

Turns out I've already got both packages (I'd also forgotten that I had some files on a USB pendrive). And since I use Grub, the change should be even simpler. I'll set it up tonight and can do a bit of comparing between the Zenwalk 2.6.23.x and the Vl one.

Thanks again...

paul.