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Title: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: reb on December 09, 2007, 07:58:53 am
I would like to express my gratitude to 'exterdad', 'kidd' and 'The Headacher' for their gracious answers to a very recent childish, outrageously tempestuous post by someone who seems to think that the world owes them everything.

I've only been a member here for a short time, and I hope this isn't out of line, but I want everyone to know that I'm proud to be a member along side such wonderful people who every day go out of their way to help those of us who are struggling.

My gracious thanks to you all

reb 
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: saulgoode on December 09, 2007, 09:08:37 am
I've heard that Exeterdad was banned from the Debian forums for his kind behavior.
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: boilertech on December 09, 2007, 01:11:15 pm
I second that. Good work people. You are truly an inspiration.
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: exeterdad on December 09, 2007, 08:22:02 pm
I've heard that Exeterdad was banned from the Debian forums for his kind behavior.

Oh chew glass!  I hate each and every one of your sorry a$$'s.  Feel better now?

 :D
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: bigpaws on December 09, 2007, 08:52:04 pm
Exeterdad

Almost lost my coffee on that response.

:)

Bigpaws
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: The Headacher on December 09, 2007, 11:35:14 pm
reb, I moved this topic to the lounge since that seemed a better place for this sort of thread.
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: blurymind on December 10, 2007, 04:16:48 am
and i have no idea whats going on here  ::)
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: easuter on December 10, 2007, 05:15:30 am
and i have no idea whats going on here  ::)

blurymind, they are talking about this:

http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4897.0
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on December 10, 2007, 05:26:02 am
I would like to express my gratitude to 'exterdad', 'kidd' and 'The Headacher' for their gracious answers to a very recent childish, outrageously tempestuous post by someone who seems to think that the world owes them everything.

I would almost cheer with everyone else, but then I remembered I'm prone to childish outbursts myself.  :P
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: tomh38 on December 10, 2007, 06:33:29 am
Hello everyone,

I would like someone from Vector Linux to come over to my house and set up the distribution on my computer the way I like it whilst I recline in my easy chair and drink beer.  On the way out that person will get a kick in the arse to help him/her to his/her automobile.

I've also heard that some people in Hell want icewater.  One of you take them some or I'll have a hissy and start spewing vulgarities.

 ;D

Love and thanks to everyone involved with Vector Linux in any way for the great distro and all the fantastic help since I started using it.  I'm looking at you hanu, and exeterdad, and M0E, ... and a whole bunch of other people whose nicks I can't remember right now.

Tom
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: exeterdad on December 10, 2007, 06:46:35 am
Holy Cow! Look who the cat drug in (tomh38)!
Yep, the man is drawn to "Jerry Springer" action.  I've got your number now buddy  :D

Nice to see ya again Tom...  errrr nice to read ya again? Type ya again...  Ummm...  what was it I was talking about anyway?
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: reb on December 10, 2007, 09:11:35 am
 ;D  ;D  ;D  :D


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Oh chew glass!  I hate each and every one of your sorry a$$'s.  Feel better now?
exeterdad, I'm still L(ing)MAO over that one.

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Almost lost my coffee on that response.
bigpaws I'd be happy to bring you another cup, but after my second step I would probably forget what I doing and just drink the coffee myself.

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reb, I moved this topic to the lounge since that seemed a better place for this sort of thread.
The Headacher, you were probably correct in doing so, and I'm sure I know why you did it.  ;)

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I would almost cheer with everyone else, but then I remembered I'm prone to childish outbursts myself.  Tongue
LOL  Ok hanumizzle I'll let you compare notes with exeterdad.  ;D

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I would like someone from Vector Linux to come over to my house and set up the distribution on my computer the way I like it whilst I recline in my easy chair and drink beer.  On the way out that person will get a kick in the arse to help him/her to his/her automobile.

I've also heard that some people in Hell want icewater.  One of you take them some or I'll have a hissy and start spewing vulgarities.

 Grin

Love and thanks to everyone involved with Vector Linux in any way for the great distro and all the fantastic help since I started using it.  I'm looking at you hanu, and exeterdad, and M0E, ... and a whole bunch of other people whose nicks I can't remember right now.
tomh38, that was classic.  You're my kind of people. But neither of us know whether that is good or bad, do we?  chuckle, chuckle, chucle

I have one more thing to add about myself.  At my age, I feel like I have earned the right to be just a little bit opinionated.  At 80 years of age, I served in WWII, followed the shameful episode of 'Charles Manson', laughed at and with the hippies, shook my head in dismay at the anti-war demonstrations during the Vietnam debacle, etc., etc.  Now I find myself, after over 20 years of playing with computers, and determined to master VL, in a rather lonly place.  In the area where I live there is absolutely no one even close to my age who wants to be a linux buddy.  So the Vectorbie forum became my refuge, and you are stuck me until I get this linux thingy under my belt, so you best help me or you could be stuck with me for a long long time  :D

thanks to all you neat people

reb  "the social rebel, not a southern rebel"
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: exeterdad on December 10, 2007, 09:39:34 am
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In the area where I live there is absolutely no one even close to my age who wants to be a linux buddy.
Don't feel pregnant Reb, I don't even know any (non-internet) Linux users.
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: tomh38 on December 10, 2007, 10:20:47 am
Hey reb,

Glad to know you, sorry I can't be your Linux buddy in real life, but I'm glad to be so in these forums.  I think that you'll find that there are lots of others who are also willing.  Maybe you've already discovered that.  I've never found another forum of any kind that was this helpful and friendly.  Even when people disagree, they're civil about it and agree to disagree.  Also, I think you'll find that age doesn't matter much here.  Some of us are younger, some older, but nobody really seems to care.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your service in the Second World War.  You (I know, along with a lot of other people from all over the world) risked your life for freedom and what was right.  I am not old enough to remember it, but that doesn't mean it isn't important to me.  I haven't forgotten, and I will never forget.

exeterdad
Yeah, I haven't been around much lately, but I'll come out for "Jerry Springer" stuff.  :D  I will say this though:  I haven't been wasting my time with VL.  I've wanted to be a packager for some time, but at first I didn't know how involved that is.  I've been learning a lot (when my work schedule permits), and I would really like to be a significant contributor by the time 6.0 is in development.  At this point I can compile and install stuff for my own system pretty well, so I'm getting there.

As for the rest, I like how everybody handled that guy ... you know who I mean.  I hope he learned that this isn't the place to be a jerk.  I have a feeling he might just have been trolling.

Oh, and reb, please stick around even after you have a good handle on VL.
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: exeterdad on December 10, 2007, 12:00:40 pm
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I've wanted to be a packager for some time, but at first I didn't know how involved that is.
I can tell you are smarter than the average bear Tom.  You'd do great.   VL hasn't fired me yet, so it can't be too hard right?
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: kazuya on December 10, 2007, 12:15:23 pm
Wow, that was different..Lost on that one.
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: tomh38 on December 10, 2007, 03:29:13 pm
kazuya

Look at this first:

http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4897.0 (http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4897.0)
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: dawnsboy on December 10, 2007, 05:06:12 pm
Why in the world would any one pollute these boards with a verbal attack like the one aimed at exeterdad (or that silly rant from someone that should probably give their PC back and apologize to its maker).  That's it!  Come to the friendliest board in the world of linux and then foul it up with that kind of smelly behavior.  Thanks for the laugh exeterdad!   ;D

I am with the other users who turn to the board after trying to learn on my own.  I started with a Commodore 64, switched to DOS/Windows (I swear I heard Rod Serling in the background when I did that) then on to Linux (where life begins and windows ends).  Microsofts idea of intuitive application interfaces is a joke in its own right.  Linux was actually easier once I grasped the concept.

I think that this would be a good time to thank Robert for affording me the opportunity to be associated with Vector Linux.  Just think, anyone can wander in from cyber space and stick around awhile.  No questions asked! Thanks Robert!
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 10, 2007, 06:41:39 pm
Don't feel pregnant Reb, I don't even know any (non-internet) Linux users.

Me too. I don't know any Linux users in "real life." I have lots of cyber friends who are Linux users, though, on this and other forums.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: Pita on December 10, 2007, 08:29:55 pm
I have 3 converts to Linux where I live in my subdivision and 2 in a computer store. And in a health center here where I have to visit the rehab every now and then they changed entirely to Linux Fedora. None of the employees had anything to complain and I showed them a few tricks they can do with Linux which are absent in Windoof.
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: exeterdad on December 10, 2007, 08:36:22 pm
I have to admit, I refrained from saying how I really felt about the post, but since everyone here is so good at keeping things down to a dull roar here, I reeled myself in.  Don't be fooled, it's not my nature.  I've been on the web long enough to not be affected too much about what I read, I can alway just go somewhere else or turn off my monitor.  But even with my short history with this community I just had to defend it.  I really do like it here and VL has become "my other woman".

Speaking of women, I was thinking earlier of GrannGeek and Caitlyn (Hope I spelled that right).  I honestly wish one of them would of posted first.  They really are gifted writers, they have a knack for saying things tactfully without coming right out and saying them if you know what I mean.  And GrannyGeek, she's not afraid to tell you how she see's it.  I admire that.

Meh...  maybe next time  ;)
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on December 10, 2007, 11:09:53 pm
Why in the world would any one pollute these boards with a verbal attack like the one aimed at exeterdad (or that silly rant from someone that should probably give their PC back and apologize to its maker).  That's it!  Come to the friendliest board in the world of linux and then foul it up with that kind of smelly behavior.  Thanks for the laugh exeterdad!   ;D

Aye, lad. Whether the post in question was simply a frustrated rant (something that happens) or a troll, there were more gracious ways to handle it.
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: Freston on December 11, 2007, 03:21:35 am
The second World War was so devastating that it seems to completely overshadow the horrors of the first World War. You can still see it's effects to this day. Be it the Nazi bunkers along the coastline, where we used to play as kids... the big bomb craters along the coast of Normandy, or the cities that where wiped out and where no building prior to 1945 stands. And if you know where to look, there are still bullet holes and craters from that period. We in the Netherlands remember the deaths of the victims and soldiers on the 4th of may, and celebrate the liberation on the 5th of may. I personally know many people who have been in Nazi or Imperial Japanese concentration camps, but I have never met a soldier from that era. Thank you reb, I will raise a glass in your honor.

On a lighter note: I also don't have any RL Linux buddies. I do have some people interested, but when push comes to shove (as I believe the expression goes) they are afraid even to install Firefox. Only my mother runs Ubuntu, and she loves it.
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: no2thesame on December 11, 2007, 04:49:27 am
Working in aged care, I am privileged in having met many soldiers, sailors and airmen from World War II, even the wife of a WW I soldier who earned a Victoria Cross in the trenches of France (and had nightmares about it every night)

Wonderful men and women. Unfortunately, those that develop dementia often relive their experiences. We have one ex officer, who spends each evening screaming orders as his unit attacks the Japanese in New Guinea.

But I think the saddest thing for me was an old sailor, who had told me about having his ship sunk under him in Guadelcanal and seeing action in the Battle of Leyte Gulf. He was dying and unconscious and his son was at the bedside. I commented that the son that be must be proud of the things his dad had done and repeated some of the details of the stories. The son was quiet and said "he would never tell us about his war experiences".... I guess I was there at the right time.

So talk to your kids.
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Quote from: exeterdad on December 10, 2007, 11:39:34 AM
Don't feel pregnant Reb, I don't even know any (non-internet) Linux users.

Don't you guys join LUGs? I know at least 40 people who use Linux (they mainly use Ubuntu  though).  And because the LUG gets more technical than I like, we even started another group for 'Linux Learners'.

But, in line with my parenting advice above, I only use Linux at home (and refuse to fix anything that runs Windows), So all my (4) children use Vector at home. With three VL boxes sharing the ADSL connection  and an open policy on web use, we often have a heap of my youngest (12yo) son's neighbohood friends on the web. Only my eldest daughter has opted out... she bought a Mac ibook (now loaded with familiar FOSS software).

To the topic, at last!, I enjoy the friendly, helpful tone of this forum tremendously. It is one of the main reasons I stay with VL.
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: kazuya on December 11, 2007, 06:22:19 am
I read the post; seems like a someone who just started and is not used to things not looking exactly like how he envisions them. He was a tart bit unpolite.. Everyone has their nature; He is not ready to use anything without major complaints. And worse, he is not willing to learn anything or accept anything, but how he envisions it, whether it be wrong or right..
You encounter folks like that once in a while in real life. The OPs were very tactful in their response. I am very impressed, but not surprised. This forum has always been tactful in dealing with things like this; But this is the worst behavior or post by anyone that I have ever seen.. It was not nearly constructive, nor did it mention anything that was wrong..  It could be worse, but the folk still thinks somehow he is owed something. We users are just priviledged to have many options to use and be helped by the wonderful developers of linux. Vl developers are definitly up there in task done given small footprints or numbers of developers. Great job again folks. Do not let posts like this cause you to shy away from new users not yet baptized in the joys of opensource...
As a side note, in 2 yrs from now, my company would be potentially switching to linux from xp. dell shall be cutting off XP support and getting folks to vista -  which folks are not ready for.
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 12, 2007, 05:22:51 pm
Don't you guys join LUGs? I know at least 40 people who use Linux (they mainly use Ubuntu  though).  And because the LUG gets more technical than I like, we even started another group for 'Linux Learners'.

There isn't a Linux Users Group within 200 miles of us.

Returning to WWII vets, my uncle was an airplane mechanic in India, China, and Burma. He flew over the Himalayas many times. It was a very dangerous and uncomfortable flight. I had an uncle by marriage whose job on a Pacific island was collecting dead bodies from the battlefield. For the rest of his life he would vomit when he smelled certain smells. He never talked about any of his experiences, but they must have been with him all the time.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: no2thesame on December 15, 2007, 03:39:57 pm

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There isn't a Linux Users Group within 200 miles of us.

GrannyGeek you are a legend!  I don't know how I would get by without the support of the groups I'm in.

On WWII soldiers, I just met a new resident of German origin. He was defending Berlin from the Russians in '45 as a 14 year old!  What do I have to complain about?

no2
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: GrannyGeek on December 15, 2007, 07:40:49 pm
I don't know how I would get by without the support of the groups I'm in.

One of the great things about the Internet is that we can make cyberfriends with interests like ours. Between this forum and a couple of others, I feel I get a lot of support for Linux.

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On WWII soldiers, I just met a new resident of German origin. He was defendin Berlin from the Russians in '45 as a 14 year old!  What do I have to complain about?

One of my professors in college came from Dresden, Germany. He was a 15-year-old conscript when Dresden was firebombed. That experience could provide a lifetime of nightmares.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: Megamieuwsel on December 16, 2007, 12:29:35 am
Ooh...
WWII-stories...

Reminds me to finish the translation of my dad's journal 'bout his time in the german camps.(He was ratted out for being in the reasistance...)
Title: Re: My response to a "distasteful" post
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on December 16, 2007, 12:40:26 am
One of my uncles (not father-brother obviously, what do you call it?) was at Iwo Jima as a landing craft boatswain.