VectorLinux

The Vectorian Lounge => The Lounge => Topic started by: wcs on January 01, 2008, 03:40:41 pm

Title: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: wcs on January 01, 2008, 03:40:41 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7147804.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7147804.stm)

Sounds about right to me... Any other ideas about the trends in the coming year?
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: The Headacher on January 02, 2008, 04:03:09 am
Quote
Any other ideas about the trends in the coming year?
Flying cars and robotic servants ;).
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on January 02, 2008, 04:40:51 am
Frankly, I don't like how people drive in two dimensions, much less three, but I'm all for using robots.

Quote from: Oscar Wilde
The fact is, that civilisation requires slaves. The Greeks were quite right there. Unless there are slaves to do the ugly, horrible, uninteresting work, culture and contemplation become almost impossible. Human slavery is wrong, insecure, and demoralizing. On mechanical slavery, on the slavery of the machine, the future of the world depends.
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: Freston on January 02, 2008, 04:53:39 am
... and we're one year closer to the Robot Uprising (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_uprising).
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: wcs on January 03, 2008, 03:29:44 pm
Quote
Flying cars and robotic servants

Yea, I was seeing a couple of them robots playing football the other day... we're getting close

Now what I would like would be one of those flying skateboards from Back to the Future.
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: exeterdad on January 03, 2008, 05:43:08 pm
Just what the heck is this?
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42382000/jpg/_42382073_003177418_gadget_ap203.jpg)

And what will happen if something goes really wrong?  :o
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: rbistolfi on January 03, 2008, 05:55:31 pm
She is the daughter I had with my computer :D
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: exeterdad on January 03, 2008, 06:01:50 pm
She is the daughter I had with my computer :D
ROFL!!
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on January 04, 2008, 04:19:10 am
... and we're one year closer to the Robot Uprising (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_uprising).

Bender: You humans think that robots are just machines made to make people's lives easier.
Fry: Well, aren't they?
Bender: I've never made anyone's life easier and you know it!
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: exeterdad on January 04, 2008, 04:54:34 am
Quote
Bender: You humans think that robots are just machines made to make people's lives easier.
Fry: Well, aren't they?
Bender: I've never made anyone's life easier and you know it!
That's pretty funny considering your choice of avatar this week  :)
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: wcs on January 04, 2008, 05:49:12 am
Quote
Bender: You humans think that robots are just machines made to make people's lives easier.
Fry: Well, aren't they?
Bender: I've never made anyone's life easier and you know it!

Futurama! Now that's quite a good indication of what technology will be like!
What do these BBC blokes know? They're not even releasing their player for Linux!

Plus, it's damn funnier than BBC news. Anyone noticed how grim the news are these days?...
(is the world getting worse or was I oblivious before?)
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on January 04, 2008, 06:11:48 am
Plus, it's damn funnier than BBC news. Anyone noticed how grim the news are these days?...
(is the world getting worse or was I oblivious before?)

I guess you weren't around for the Dark Ages.
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: wcs on January 04, 2008, 10:56:10 am
Quote
I guess you weren't around for the Dark Ages.

ROFL! Very true...
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on January 04, 2008, 11:17:00 am
Quote
I guess you weren't around for the Dark Ages.

ROFL! Very true...

I was there. It was epic.
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: wcs on January 04, 2008, 12:01:29 pm
Quote
I was there. It was epic.

ROFL, ROFL, ROFL!!
Please stop or I'll burst out laughing. You are on fire.
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on January 04, 2008, 02:45:36 pm
Quote
I was there. It was epic.

ROFL, ROFL, ROFL!!
Please stop or I'll burst out laughing. You are on fire.

For serious. Read my signature.
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: Freston on January 04, 2008, 03:51:01 pm
Well, I must say the guards defending us from Vikings have seem to be less alert lately. I always took that as a sign the world was getting safer...



... and we leave the city gate open all night these days, anyone could come in :o


(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:kRYb7hQfc0vsrM:http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/000/045/302/20071023/dyn006_original_180_240_pjpeg_45302_e0d4d0fc10e836c618e784206d9bd82b.jpg)
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on January 04, 2008, 03:59:55 pm
Unfortunately, we still live in an '√łkstid' and 'sverdtid' because of various kinds of religious nuts, except these days the '√łks' is a machine gun and the 'sverd' is a rocket launcher. I understand the Netherlands has some problems with that... :-\

Hell, I'd be content with a 'vargtid', sometimes I like dogs more than people...

(http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Bios/images/DiogenesJLGerome.jpg)
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: Freston on January 04, 2008, 04:16:06 pm
There is a time to axe and there is a time to sword ;-)
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on January 04, 2008, 05:17:29 pm
There is a time to axe and there is a time to sword ;-)

That's about the size of it, as we say here in America. :-\
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: GrannyGeek on January 04, 2008, 10:08:11 pm
Anyone noticed how grim the news are these days?...
(is the world getting worse or was I oblivious before?)

It's always been bad. We just didn't hear about it as much or as quickly.
--GrannyGeek
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: wcs on January 04, 2008, 11:03:13 pm
Quote
It's always been bad. We just didn't hear about it as much or as quickly.

Sure... There's the Middle Ages, and certainly before. Wasn't there something about Homo Sapiens Sapiens wiping the Australopitecus out of the face of the Earth, even though they might have been Homo Sapiens as well?

And you cannot beat the two world wars (including the two atomic bombs).

I meant in the last, say, 20 or 30 years....
Given the problems with natural resources, global warming, and some crazy wild capitalism, I fear that we're heading somewhere not good.
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: wcs on January 04, 2008, 11:09:51 pm
And still about (consumer-level) technology in 2008, a toy/gadget thing that should be interesting not only for computer geeks, but also to people into Artificial Intelligence and Psychology.

Quote
http://pleo.org/
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on January 05, 2008, 08:38:15 am
Quote
It's always been bad. We just didn't hear about it as much or as quickly.

Sure... There's the Middle Ages, and certainly before. Wasn't there something about Homo Sapiens Sapiens wiping the Australopitecus out of the face of the Earth, even though they might have been Homo Sapiens as well?

Australopithecus afarensis, the first primitive hominid species, were long dead before then. You may have Neanderthals in mind. Well, no one knows quite what killed off Neanderthals, but it's not because they were dumb. There is plenty of archaeological evidence indicating that Neanderthals wielded spears and bows, practiced funeral rituals and there is even very strong evidence that a bone found in a Neanderthal cave with a series of holes arranged in a diatonic scale was indeed a flute.

I meant in the last, say, 20 or 30 years....
Given the problems with natural resources, global warming, and some crazy wild capitalism, I fear that we're heading somewhere not good.

The capacity to destroy has certainly increased. I don't know whether greed has really increased, but the ability to act on it has.
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: wcs on January 05, 2008, 09:08:23 am
Quote
You may have Neanderthals in mind.

Of course, silly me, I meant the Neanderthals.
Or perhaps, the Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis, if they belonged to the same species as us...

Which, given the biological basis of language, gives rise to the interesting possibility that they had it. And, I suppose, that the Sapiens Sapiens and the Neanderthals could cross and have fertile descendents.

Which would amount to a big genocide between humans if indeed the Sapiens Sapiens kicked their butts.

I don't have a clue where that research stands these days... it's been quite a few years since I first heard that hypothesis.
Title: Re: Technology trends in 2008 (BBC)
Post by: Triarius Fidelis on January 05, 2008, 09:33:38 am
Quote
You may have Neanderthals in mind.

...

Which, given the biological basis of language, gives rise to the interesting possibility that they had it. And, I suppose, that the Sapiens Sapiens and the Neanderthals could cross and have fertile descendents.

I have very little doubt about whether they possessed language. It is virtually certain given the hard evidence we have on them. If they could understand the concept of an 'octave', which is readily apparent, then they most likely spoke (at least) as well as we do today.

I don't know whether Cro Magnon and Neanderthals could crossbreed but I somehow doubt they would want to.  But maybe their superior intellect appealed to Cro Magnon women and the Cro Magnon men killed them all out of jealousy? :)

Anyway, here's a how the bear bone flute (http://family.boyle.net/flute50.mp3) would have sounded. Not sure which genres were popular back then, but I can say for certain that a 55,000 year old design still sounds way better than bands like the Violent Femmes and Bright Eyes do today. :D