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General Announcements => Distro Releases => Topic started by: uelsk8s on May 04, 2008, 01:22:22 pm

Title: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: uelsk8s on May 04, 2008, 01:22:22 pm
The VectorLinux team is proud to announce VL-Light Beta 5.
VL-Light turns an aging PC into a usable computer again. Living up to the VL motto of "When Choice Matters," we give you lots of choices in a small package. We have included JWM and Fluxbox Window Managers, xfe and pcmanfm File managers, Opera, Dillo and lynx Web Browsers, Xine, MPlayer, and XMMS for Multimedia and Abiword and Gnumeric for office tasks. Come Discover the Difference that VL-Light will show you.
We have reached B5 status. In this release we have added the LXDE desktop, and upgraded vburn, which was developed by Nightflier. We need your feedback on them so Please test and let us know how it goes.

ISO can be downloaded here: http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-5.9/iso-release/VL5.9-Light-B5.iso
44c4076ef5d5e4fb7d0fd54c63142fa1  VL5.9-Light-B5.iso

Please post any bugs here: http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=6165.0
Thanks,
Uelsk8s
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kidd on May 04, 2008, 04:17:23 pm
Is there any changelog for vl versions?  I'd be great having available all changes since last version.

Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: bofh80 on May 07, 2008, 08:51:52 am
 :o  ::) don't blink. you might miss it.

What a wonderful job you have done, i've been waiting for years - YEARS for an OS that would run cleanly and fast on older hardware.
Current install of b5 on a Dell Latitude CPx. 500mhz / 64meg / 15gig.
Just keep in mind while wylie coyote is DSL or puppy. Vector Lite is like Road Runner.

It's clean, it's simple, it's faaSSST.

This light desktop stuff i've not heard of, my preference over the years has been ICEwm for various / obvious reasons.
You've just changed my preference. :)
I looked around for other distro's that had this LXDE and none of them are as updated.
Really i'd prefer this to be a debian base as i'm a big ubuntu fan (debian before that). ie ifconfig is not there :S

Couple of points
1) Can i add other apps?
2) Speaking of - where's Firefox? (yeah i know i know, but apart from IE, compatibility wise FF is all you should need or use.)
2a) EDITED =-= vpackager found - although gentoo wasn't what i had in mind ;p
3) How do i order the Menu bar - it's not alphabetised or nothing.

Yes i did like Opera when it came out, when i used windows, once i started using Linux, Opera became, well, the IE of linux.

Brilliant, Brilliant, Brilliant.

Notice i had to add numbers for various non-points.
That's because there's nothing else to say. There's nothing wrong with it. I can't believe i'm saying this.
I've never said this
There is NOTHING wrong with it.

Keep it coming.

well chuffed.
dabofh.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kidd on May 07, 2008, 09:04:41 am
yeah, vl-light is really amazing.

ifconfig is right there, in /sbin , but as regular users do not have /sbin in their path, you should run it with the complete path.  If you're running as root, ifconfig is in the path, so no problems...

slapt-get is your friend.  it's our apt-get like package manager.  We have vpackager, that can use cruxports.  Moe is doing a great job with it. (thx M0E, btw)

There's no firefox because firefox is not that 'light' (opera is really lighter and faster than ff, at least firefox 2.X).  You can get firefox through slapt-get, or gslapt (slapt-get front-end)

No idea on the menu issue.  I haven't used any menus for 2 years.

Cya around, and welcome to VL.  If you found the distro amazing, you gotta see what community we have here :D
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: Vanger on May 07, 2008, 09:05:16 am
1) Yes, of course. You can add:
- VL packages (through slapt-get or gslapt). VL packages are .tlz - the same as Slackware .tgz packages, but with lzma compression instead of gzip
- Slackware packages (VL5.9B5 is based on Slack 12 toolchain) - you download them and installpkg package-name.tgz or add Slack rep to slapt-get/gslapt (check /etc/slapt-get/slapt-getrc)
- compile programs yourself ;)
2) Firefox is too big and mem-hungry. slapt-get --install firefox should ease the pain ;) .
3) The LXDE menu bar or when you right click on desktop menu?

Welcome to Vector Linux ;)
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: bofh80 on May 07, 2008, 09:19:36 am
ohh too much to take in :)
vpacker - installing firefox ;p
slapt-get - will look into - sounds fab, does that mean no building? :P

firefox might be memory hungry. but no slower than Opera IMO.

3) The Menu menu Bar - i have not got the right click WM function for desktop - so i just get the 3 little desktop icons.
So yeah - the 'Start' menu, :D i want to sort them in order i want - or alphabetise them..

cheers for quick replies :D excellent.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kidd on May 07, 2008, 09:27:35 am
su
slapt-get --update
slapt-get --install firefox

vpackager wil compile packages locally, and vl-light lacks some sources, so maybe it will fail...

For firefox, slapt-get is a safer choice IMO.

I use ff b3 nightly builds, and work out of the box. just unpack and run. (well, and do the appropiate link to ff plugins)

su
cd /opt
wget http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/firefox-3.0pre.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2
tar xjfv firefox-3.0.....
cd firefox
rm -fr plugins
ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
cd /usr/bin
ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: nightflier on May 07, 2008, 11:31:34 am
vl-light lacks some sources, so maybe it will fail...

Correct. The kernel sources are not included due to space restraints. You can download them from here:
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-5.9/kernels/

Run command "uname -a" in a terminal to find your kernel version.

The start menu in LXDE is dynamically created each time you start, don't know of a way to manually edit it. The JWM and Fluxbox menus can be controlled by editing text files (link to files are on the respective menus).
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kc1di on May 08, 2008, 02:44:11 pm
The more I use VL 5.9 Light the more I like it  :)

I have a question though how can one setup a program in JWM to run automaticlly on boot up?

Thanks
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: nightflier on May 08, 2008, 03:07:51 pm
The more I use VL 5.9 Light the more I like it  :)

I have a question though how can one setup a program in JWM to run automaticlly on boot up?

Glad to hear it!

In your home folder find the file .jwmrc. Open it in a text editor and find the block:
<StartupCommand> 
...snip...
</StartupCommand>
You will see "pcmanicons on" in there. Add your commands within that block.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kc1di on May 08, 2008, 04:50:44 pm
Thanks Nightflier.
it works sort of.  I'm trying to get wbar /vlbar to auto load , when I edit the file if will come up on logon but then disapear when I hit any function and the normal desktop come back with no wbar.  must have to write a script or something.
Dave
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: nightflier on May 08, 2008, 06:02:18 pm
kc1di: I think what you're getting is a conflict between wbar and the "show desktop icons" in pcmanfm. They just don't seem to play well together :(
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kc1di on May 09, 2008, 03:10:48 am
kc1di: I think what you're getting is a conflict between wbar and the "show desktop icons" in pcmanfm. They just don't seem to play well together :(

That must be, I'll keep playing with it if I come up with a solution will post it here.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: M0E-lnx on May 09, 2008, 05:48:41 am
Mine works even with pcmanfm icons...
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kc1di on May 09, 2008, 06:04:42 am
Mine works even with pcmanfm icons...


What did you do ?
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: nightflier on May 09, 2008, 03:05:42 pm
Is there any changelog for vl versions?  I'd be great having available all changes since last version.

Very good point. Here is the changelog for the last two versions:

Beta 4 - April-12-2008
Removed wishcd
Added vburn
Upgraded pcmanfm to 0.3.9.98
Removed ck kernels
Upgraded default CD boot kernel (sata) to 2.6.22.19
Added optional CD boot kernel ide-2.6.22.19 (ide)
Upgraded default kernel to 2.6.22.19
Added optional kernel ide-2.6.22.19
Added optional kernel sources 2.6.22.19
- ISO size 365 MB -

Beta 5 - May 2008
Made pcmanfm mandatory
Added optional bulk package LXDE + deps
Combined Abiword + Gnumeric + deps into one bulk package "Office"
Added optional custom package chestnut-dialer-0.3.3 plus deps
Modified and repackaged xarchiver, gqview, ripperX
Modified kernel installation procedure
Modified optional kernel ide-2.6.22.19 package (removed actual kernel)
Removed optional kernel source 2.6.22.19
- ISO size 327 MB -
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: overthere on May 09, 2008, 04:01:42 pm
Oh...thanks nightflier..and 30 odd smaller...nice work
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kidd on May 09, 2008, 07:08:05 pm
If we want to go minimal, why do we have 2 desktop managers there, if vl-std has only one.  How many editors are there?

vim is not compiled for gui, so it's a console only option.  What about shiping plain vi there instead of vim?  If vim fans want to upgrade, we can slapt-get or compile it ourselves.

maybe there are too many options on window mangers too.

Are you just testing it to decide what fits better or you plan to shipt all that options in vl-light final?

Great work with vl-light btw.  It's already my default linux choice.  THANKS!
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: nightflier on May 09, 2008, 08:01:37 pm
We abandoned the "minimal" concept a while back and Light became somewhat of an experiment to see what works best on lower power machines. LXDE is quite new and exciting, so this is a good place to test it. Still not sure how final release will look.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: VgnFrnd on May 10, 2008, 06:09:10 pm
Back in mid-April, I had reported success with VL-Lite 5.9b3 on my geriatric thinkpad 380z (p2-233, 153mb, 10gb), and thankfully the story remains the same with b5. VL remains the only distro that successfully installs on this machine, probably due to some unusual features on the motherboard, including an ISA bus and a cd-rom drive that many distros have difficulty reading from. The remaining distros that pass those two hurdles are apparently much worse at hardware detection than VL or aren't optimized for older hardware. Thus, once again, I give thanks.

Meanwhile, I tried out LXDE. It looks great. I'll have to figure out how to use it.

By the way, this may be off topic (so feel free to redirect me), but I can't find streamtuner in the repos. I have searched this forum, and it looks to me like it is packaged in SOHO. Is streamtuner compatable with VL-Lite? If no, can someone suggest the lightest possible alternative? For whatever reason, the old lappie is having a hell of a time streaming audio. It worked fine under Win98, so I know the hardware can handle it. Thanks.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: nightflier on May 10, 2008, 06:36:46 pm
Streamtuner: Not really off-topic. Never heard of it.. checked it out and it's a great little app! :) I'll look at including it in next version.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: VgnFrnd on May 10, 2008, 06:47:44 pm
Thank you! Please consider also its sibling, streamripper.  :D
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kc1di on May 11, 2008, 03:38:28 am
Streamtuner: Not really off-topic. Never heard of it.. checked it out and it's a great little app! :) I'll look at including it in next version.

I have packaged Streamtuner it's in my contrib awaiting move to testing.
will look into streamripper also.
cheers! Dave


Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: VgnFrnd on May 11, 2008, 09:04:34 am
Wow, kc1di, thank you!  ;D

In other news, someone may recall that I experienced weird behavior with wifi under b3 (which I reported in the b3 thread). The oddness continues with b5 because the wifi configuration does not work correctly for me, regardless of whether I run it from the vasmcc launcher or the command line with vwifi. No matter how many times I run the tool and no matter what I enter in my efforts to connect to whatever wireless network I specify, it always configures my card to pick up one particular network (one of my neighbor's); but the good news is that everything works as it should from the command line, and I was able to modify my rc.local file in order to force a connection to my network on boot.

Because everything is now working as I want it to, I am merely reporting some unexpected behavior. I have no idea if other users experience this kind of thing, but it may be worth looking into.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: VgnFrnd on May 11, 2008, 08:07:35 pm
Edit: I removed this post because when I made it, I had confused this forum with another.  :P My apologies!
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: shahgols on May 12, 2008, 11:50:25 am
I have a computer without a CD/DVD drive.  How can I install VL Light on there? 
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: rbistolfi on May 12, 2008, 12:43:19 pm
I have a computer without a CD/DVD drive.  How can I install VL Light on there? 

Hi Shangols, I use the iso install method:
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-5.8/install/INSTALL-ISO
It will work in Light as well.
If you dont have a working linux on the box and you can boot from floppy, there is a floppy method.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: shahgols on May 12, 2008, 01:15:13 pm
That's awesome, thanks much!
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: Witek Mozga on May 13, 2008, 03:32:47 am
The VectorLinux team is proud to announce VL-Light Beta 5.

I must confess that I am impressed. You might remember that I criticized the idea of VL light much when it was born but it seems I`ll have to change my mind on this.

I managed to set up my wifi with VLwifi and I`m writing from VL Light at this moment.

LXDE looks nice however I had a crash and after Ctrl+Alt+Backspace the bottom panel disapperead.

I noticed some inconsistency: When I plugged a USB stick it was mounted and files were displayed with xfe manager. I tried to open an .xls file but it seems that that xfe doesn`t associate it with gnumeric, pcmanfm does associate properly. Why 2 file managers at all? This can be so anyway but shouldn`t they have the same associations for filetypes? Similiary why 2 text edistors? Adie associated with pcmanfm and 'x file writer' with xfe.



Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kc1di on May 13, 2008, 03:44:54 am
The VectorLinux team is proud to announce VL-Light Beta 5.


why 2 text edistors? Adie associated with pcmanfm and 'x file writer' with xfe.





I have to agree I do not care for XFE Would like the pcmanfm to manage all the files.
Cheers Dave
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: nightflier on May 13, 2008, 04:52:15 am
why 2 text edistors? Adie associated with pcmanfm and 'x file writer' with xfe.
Quote
I have to agree I do not care for XFE Would like the pcmanfm to manage all the files.
Cheers Dave

The amount of choice presented reflects the users' variations in preferences, and requests. Of course we can't make everybody happy, but aim to please as many as possible There are actually more text editors available.. vi, nano and mcedit are lurking behind the GUI  ;)

The starting point was using JWM and pcmanfm. Over time a lot got added, but most remain optional during the installation. Uninstall XFE (which includes XFW)  and pcmanfm will take over.

Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kc1di on May 13, 2008, 05:07:16 am
why 2 text edistors? Adie associated with pcmanfm and 'x file writer' with xfe.
Quote
I have to agree I do not care for XFE Would like the pcmanfm to manage all the files.
Cheers Dave

The amount of choice presented reflects the users' variations in preferences, and requests. Of course we can't make everybody happy, but aim to please as many as possible There are actually more text editors available.. vi, nano and mcedit are lurking behind the GUI  ;)

The starting point was using JWM and pcmanfm. Over time a lot got added, but most remain optional during the installation. Uninstall XFE (which includes XFW)  and pcmanfm will take over.



Thanks it works
Dave
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kc1di on May 13, 2008, 05:28:04 am
I have written a short how to on how to install bibletime in a VL 5.9 light b5 system
you can find it at http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=6265.0
Dave
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: shahgols on May 13, 2008, 10:28:00 am
Two questions,

What is Bibletime?

Is Java installed?  If not, what's the best approach to install it?  Should I download it from java.com or find a package somewhere? 
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: nightflier on May 13, 2008, 12:00:58 pm
Java: search for "jre" in gslapt.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kc1di on May 13, 2008, 05:52:53 pm
Two questions,

What is Bibletime?

Is Java installed?  If not, what's the best approach to install it?  Should I download it from java.com or find a package somewhere? 
\

Bibletime is Biblestudy software from Crosswire bible project.  it has many Bible versions, commentaries and much more that can be down loaded to study the bible. 

Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kc1di on May 15, 2008, 10:27:11 am
Thank you! Please consider also its sibling, streamripper.  :D

Hi Streamtuner and Streamripper have both been placed in the Testing Repository.
Enjoy,
kc1di
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: Witek Mozga on May 15, 2008, 01:17:15 pm

I wanted to test if Vector Light can be extended by downloading KDE. I noticed in gslapt that 3.5.9 is available. Gslapt complained about mysql when I tried. I downloaded packages anyway. They were installed but when I tried to log into KDE session it failed. KDE appliactions (ie konqueror or kmail can be run from JWM, only kde session fails).

Two questions here:
1. Why kde/qt depends on mysql ??
2. Was KDE 3.5.9 supposed to be working with Vector Light beta 5?

Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: Witek Mozga on May 15, 2008, 02:22:18 pm
As I had problems with KDE from Vector repository I installed 3.5.7 from slack 12.0. It worked without pain.

By the way: Is the Light beta 5 compatible with Slack 12.0 or maybe 12.1 already?

Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: nightflier on May 15, 2008, 02:37:46 pm
Light 5.9 is Slack 12 compatible and will stay that way.

Light was not built with KDE in mind. Being Linux, though, nothing stops you from adding it. One way to do so is to get the MultiMedia Bonus Disc. I tried installing it and ended up with a fully functional KDE desktop. Still, look for 5.9 SOHO to be out soon. It is designed to use KDE.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: shahgols on May 15, 2008, 03:34:32 pm
Would have loved this release to be "advertised" on DistroWatch.  I hope that the final release will though. 
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: overthere on May 15, 2008, 06:24:49 pm
Quote
Bibletime is Biblestudy software from Crosswire bible project.  it has many Bible versions
bible versions as in different religions or versions of king james..does the program cross referance the versions?..that could be interesting...
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: saulgoode on May 15, 2008, 09:13:00 pm
Light 5.9 is Slack 12 compatible and will stay that way.

Light was not built with KDE in mind. Being Linux, though, nothing stops you from adding it. One way to do so is to get the MultiMedia Bonus Disc. I tried installing it and ended up with a fully functional KDE desktop. Still, look for 5.9 SOHO to be out soon. It is designed to use KDE.

Does the MMBD have version 5.0.51(b) of MYSQL on it? It seems that KDE 3.5.9 requires it yet the VL 5.9 repositories only have version 5.0.45.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: Witek Mozga on May 16, 2008, 01:07:20 am
Does the MMBD have version 5.0.51(b) of MYSQL on it? It seems that KDE 3.5.9 requires it yet the VL 5.9 repositories only have version 5.0.45.

Why should KDE depend on mysql at all  ???
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: bofh80 on May 16, 2008, 02:18:15 am
it's mee again.

Say i need to install DoxBox.
Using vpackager - crux ports - it says MD5 sum different. If i choose ignore doesn't work anyway.
Could someone point me to a tlz? that will work?
Or tell me what i can try pls.

Also smbmount and mount -t smbfs gives me errors. You got a gui in here somewhere for network (m$) browsing / connections.

cheers!
dabofh
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: nightflier on May 16, 2008, 05:22:47 am
There is a GUI for windows networking: vlsmbmnt.

For DoxBox, you need to contact Sun Microsystems.  ;)  If you are looking for dosbox, search for it in gslapt after you hit the update button.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: BlueMage on May 19, 2008, 04:26:29 pm
What a brilliant little version of Vector this is ... I've gone from SOHO, to Standard, to Light, and somehow, I don't think I'm going back.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: caitlyn on May 20, 2008, 10:15:51 pm
I posted in the bug thread already, but I also wanted to suggest a couple of things that aren't bugs.  Here are some wish list items for consideration:

1.  It would be fantastic if VL-Hot would work with one or more of the desktops/window managers.  My choice would be LXDE which I really think should be the default now.  It's nice.

2.  A lighter music player than xmms.  xfmedia is it in VL-5.9 Standard but I'd like it to be something not tied to Xfce.

3.  Leafpad -- a really simple editor.

Just my .02...
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: nightflier on May 21, 2008, 05:12:29 am
1.  It would be fantastic if VL-Hot would work with one or more of the desktops/window managers.

VL-Hot should work in conjunction with pcmanfm, which manages the desktop icons.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: caitlyn on May 21, 2008, 11:29:26 am
One more item for the bug thread then....  If I plug in a USB device (i.e.: a USB stick/pen dirve) I get nothing.  If it's installed at boot I also get nothing (i.e.: my USB CD/DVD burner).  If I mount them at the command line with the expected devices (i.e.: /dev/sr0 for the burner) they work fine.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: Joe1962 on May 21, 2008, 11:37:42 am
1.  It would be fantastic if VL-Hot would work with one or more of the desktops/window managers.

VL-Hot should work in conjunction with pcmanfm, which manages the desktop icons.

VL/Hot creates standard .desktop specs files in the $HOME/Desktop dir. Any wm/filemanager which conform to this standard should handle them. Specifically supporting any other spec particular to a certain wm/filemanager  could be a problem. That said, pcmanfm was created as a sort of substitute to the xfce filemanager, AFAIK, so I would presume it suports this. I have not been able to download any of the "Lights" however.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kc1di on May 21, 2008, 11:46:37 am

  My choice would be LXDE which I really think should be the default now.  It's nice.



Mine favorite also.  like you said it's nice.
 :)
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: nightflier on May 21, 2008, 01:03:01 pm
VL/Hot creates standard .desktop specs files in the $HOME/Desktop dir. Any wm/filemanager which conform to this standard should handle them.

Hi Joe, nice to see you back.   ;D

I just verified that VL-Hot works on my machine when using Light. I plug in a Linux formatted USB drive and two icons pop up on the desktop, one to explore the drive, and another to unmount it. This works under JWM and LXDE.

I know I have had issues in the past with NTFS partitions, it gets confused about how to mount those. Could those with problems please post what filesystem is involved?
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kc1di on May 21, 2008, 01:13:21 pm
It works with my fat32 sticks.

one question though in LXDE how does one add a program to the menu?
Thanks
Dave
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: nightflier on May 21, 2008, 02:37:17 pm
one question though in LXDE how does one add a program to the menu?

To manually add entries to the menu; as root, create a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications. The easiest way is to copy one (use one from the category you want the new entry to be in), and modify it with new information. Enter a new name, command and icon. After a few minutes it should show up in your menu, or at least next time you log in.
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: kc1di on May 21, 2008, 02:50:28 pm
one question though in LXDE how does one add a program to the menu?

To manually add entries to the menu; as root, create a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications. The easiest way is to copy one (use one from the category you want the new entry to be in), and modify it with new information. Enter a new name, command and icon. After a few minutes it should show up in your menu, or at least next time you log in.
Thank you that worked , couple more new to LXDE questions.. how do you add a catagory to the menu and how do you add a program with it's icon to the desktop?
Thanks
Dave
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: shahgols on May 21, 2008, 04:58:21 pm
Sorry, but I have a really basic question; would I need to study the guides for openbox in oder to learn how to put apps in the menu and such tricks? 
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: caitlyn on May 21, 2008, 05:10:49 pm
How the menu is handled for Openbox users depends on whether you are just using the wm or if you are using it with LXDE.  If it's just Openbox by itself then the naswer to your question is "yes", read the Openbox docs.  Ifyou are using LXDE then the system used for generating menus is exactly the same as GNOME and Xfce -- .desktop files in /usr/share/applications.  If you look at how those files are structured you should be able to figure it out pretty easily.  I know I did and I don't have a PhD and I am certainly not a rocket scientist :)
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: shahgols on May 21, 2008, 06:19:27 pm
Awesome response, thanks much!
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: caitlyn on May 21, 2008, 09:52:20 pm
VL/Hot creates standard .desktop specs files in the $HOME/Desktop dir. Any wm/filemanager which conform to this standard should handle them.

Hi Joe, nice to see you back.   ;D

I just verified that VL-Hot works on my machine when using Light. I plug in a Linux formatted USB drive and two icons pop up on the desktop, one to explore the drive, and another to unmount it. This works under JWM and LXDE.

I know I have had issues in the past with NTFS partitions, it gets confused about how to mount those. Could those with problems please post what filesystem is involved?

Devices and filesystems tried so far with no results:

1.  LiteON CD/DVD burner, USB, with any data CD or DVD
2.  Lexar Jumpdrive (USB stick), 512MB,  fat32

     This one just worked when inserted!  I still don't get an icon if it's already inserted at boot time.  This definitely didn't work on the previous install.

3.  512MB CF card in a PCMCIA->CF converter, vfat (fat16)

     Same as Jumpdrive -- just worked for the first time after removal and re-insertion.

That it's started working for me at all is very cool.  I'd like it to work at boot time as well and I'll like the DVD/CD-ROM drive to be recognized the way Hal recognizes it.

Speaking of Hal, why is it a dependency for GIMP now?  The last thing we need is Hal daemon running just for a photo editor.  Grrr...

-Cait
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: M0E-lnx on May 22, 2008, 08:47:12 am
I just upgraded to beta5 on my laptop..... very nice work guys

My touchpad worked right after installing the synaptics package from slacky.eu (this required a lot of work in previous releases)
upgraded kernel to 2.6.24.3 to get broadcom wireless to work with native drivers (no GUI for wifi-networking though (vwifi doesn't work for me... iwconfig fails to talk to my router... I handly my wifi-connecting with wpa_supplicant))
** Not hard at all **

Right after the install, I added HAL (personal option) and upgraded the LXDE and PCMANFM packages to their latest versions (Sweet WM)

Bootsplash now works on my intel 950GMA chip.
Still no intel drivers included, so I had to install xf86-intel to get the 1280x800 resolution.

After that, this box is as good as it's ever been ... only much faster ;)
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: nightflier on May 22, 2008, 09:00:28 am
Hey M0E, I started building the new LXDE components. Got pcmanfm 0.4.1.1 done but ran into some problems with the others. Do you have the packages made and ready to go?
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: M0E-lnx on May 22, 2008, 09:18:21 am
I built them using the ports I wrote

Edit the ports in the VL Repo for the packages and run them
that worked for me

BTW, pcmanfm is not at 0.4.4.2 (development release)  - we'll never catch up with those guys :(...
but anyhow, that's how I did it.

Notice that they changed the way lxde and lxpanel behave
lxpanel now allows multiple panels (like gnome and xfce) so the syntax of the config files changed

I would suggest completely removing the old pakcages
wipe out every config file for them, and build them using the ports (update version numbers)

HTH
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: caitlyn on May 22, 2008, 09:21:11 am
With those changes in LXDE (which sound good, BTW) is it time for Beta 6 or RC1?
Title: Re: VL 5.9 Light B5 Released.
Post by: nightflier on May 22, 2008, 09:36:05 am
I sent RC1 in for review yesterday   ;D