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Vectorbie Station => Vectorbie Questions => Topic started by: Cariboo on September 08, 2008, 03:02:55 pm

Title: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 08, 2008, 03:02:55 pm
Hello all,

Because in this Vectorbie Station "There Is No Such Thing As A "Dumb Question"!" I hope I can get help on this issue:
I have a Dual System Laptop (Dell Inspiron 2500 with VL5.9-std and WinXP installed).
When I boot into Windows I'm immediately connected to the Internet and when I boot into VL I can't get connected.

What do I have to do?
Is there a configuration necessary?
 ???
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: bigpaws on September 08, 2008, 05:20:02 pm
More information is needed.

How is the internet connection initiated?

Is this a pppoe connection?

If this is a pppoe connection try in a terminal
as root:

pppoe-setup

What type of connection DSL, Cable, etc

Bigpaws

Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 08, 2008, 08:33:29 pm
More information is needed.
1) How is the internet connection initiated?
2) Is this a pppoe connection?
If this is a pppoe connection try in a terminal
as root:
pppoe-setup
3) What type of connection DSL, Cable, etc
Bigpaws
Thanks, BigPaws...
1) How is the internet connection initiated?
By clicking on the "Web Browser Icon" in the Panel bar!
2) Is this a pppoe connection?
I don't know! I myself at home have a Dial-up connection and I used "Chestnut-Dialer" to set it up and it works just fine!
Would this happen to be a "pppoe connection"?
If not, how can I figure out if I have a pppoe connection?
3) What type of connection DSL, Cable, etc
At my friends place there is, what he calls, a "High Speed Internet Connection".
The signal comes via antenna from a not to far away transmitter tower.
It is certainly not a cable connection
So,  it is most likely a DSL, I guess.

Cariboo
 ???

PS: Is pppoe a setup script similar to pppconfig which I know from Ubuntu and which I used to set up the Dial-Up connection?
 ???
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: bigpaws on September 08, 2008, 11:13:25 pm
In 5.9 STD use KPPP which will setup the dialup connection.

This is not the same as pppoe.

As far as your friends connection were you able to use this
connection and how was that done.

Bigpaws
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 09, 2008, 12:05:58 pm
In 5.9 STD use KPPP which will setup the dialup connection.

This is not the same as pppoe.

As far as your friends connection were you able to use this
connection and how was that done.

Bigpaws

Hi BigPaws,
There must be a misunderstanding....I have no problems with the Dial-Up connection...
I set it up using "Chestnut-dialer". It works fine.

I just can't connect to a fast Internet, which is not a cable, but probably DSL, although if I boot into Windows I'm instantly connected!
 ???
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: newt on September 09, 2008, 01:07:11 pm
Sounds like your friend has a wireless, radio-type broadband connection.  Though not very common around me I do one one person with this kind of broadband.  If I had to guess, and I do, I would say it's some kind of dial-type connection - most likely pppoe but perhaps proprietary.  More details about the connection would help determine what kind of necessities it has: how is the connection made in windows - simple network settings or special software?, modem brand/model/type if any, router brand/model/type if any, how is it connected to the computer - ethernet?, service provider, any other info that would help determine the connection necessities.
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 09, 2008, 03:19:05 pm
Sounds like your friend has a wireless, radio-type broadband connection.  Though not very common around me I do one one person with this kind of broadband. 
Yes, this is the connection type, wireless radio!

More details about the connection would help determine what kind of necessities it has: how is the connection made in windows  - simple network settings or special software?
I don't know. It just connects instantly!

modem brand/model/type if any,
Lucent Win Modem,

router brand/model/type if any,
DeLinks 108

how is it connected to the computer - ethernet?
Ethernet connector.
BTWI tried 'lspci' command in the VL terminal but there was no Ethernet card detected!

service provider, any other info that would help determine the connection necessities.
service provider 'bcwireless.net'

  ::) It looks like I'm having a Laptop specific problem here!  :'(
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: caitlyn on September 09, 2008, 04:14:37 pm
The Lucent Winmodem is for dialup only.  The ethernet card not being detected is important if you want to use a wired ethernet connection, not wireless. Wireless cards/chipsets in Linux often do need configuration -- not always -- but often.  Unless we can find out what kind of wireless chipset you have it will be impossible to help you.

First, in a terminal window, type in:

Code: [Select]
/sbin/ifconfig -a
and post the results.  That will let us know if the card/chipset is even detected.  Do the same with

Code: [Select]
/sbin/iwconifg
If you could post the make and model number of your laptop that would help as well.

You are probably going to need to do the configuration/testing at your friend's house, BTW, once we figure out what you have for wireless.
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: newt on September 09, 2008, 04:26:37 pm
cait, I believe the wireless connection is from antenna on top of the house to relay station (i.e. wireless broadband).  I'm under the assumption that the wireless antenna is directly connected to a router and the computer is connected to the router via cat5.  Cariboo, can you confirm this?

If the setup is anything like this (desktop portion): http://www.bcwireless.com/site_graphics/wireless-setup.jpg
Then it may be as simple a matter as getting your (friends) ethernet card working and configured. But knowing the answers to cait's questions may prove useful.

ouput from both of these commands may be helpful:
lspci
lsusb
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 09, 2008, 06:46:21 pm
Cariboo, can you confirm this?
If the setup is anything like this (desktop portion): http://www.bcwireless.com/site_graphics/wireless-setup.jpg

Yes, the setup is exactly like the desktop portion shown HERE (http://www.bcwireless.com/site_graphics/wireless-setup.jpg):

Here are more hardware details and the outputs you asked for:

Computer
********
Dell Inspiron 2500

Summary
-------

-Computer-
Processor      : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory      : 121MB (70MB used)
Operating System      : 5.9 Standard GOLD built on Dec-16-07
User Name      : root (Unknown)
Date/Time
-Display-
Resolution      : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer      : Mesa GLX Indirect
X11 Vendor      : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter      : ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2
-Input Devices-
 Power Button (FF)
 Lid Switch
 Sleep Button (CM)
 Macintosh mouse button emulation
 AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
 SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
-Printers (CUPS)-
HP-Default-Printer
HP-Printer
-IDE Disks-
IBM-DJSA-220
LG DVD-ROM DRN-8080B
-SCSI Disks-

Operating System
----------------

-Version-
Kernel      : Linux 2.6.22.19 (i686)
Compiled      : #2 SMP PREEMPT Sun May 18 11:43:17 Local time zone must be set--
C Library      : GNU C Library version 2.5 (stable)
Distribution      : 5.9 Standard GOLD built on Dec-16-07


lspci
-----

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 11)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC) (rev 11)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BAM IDE U100 Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
01:03.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933/711E1 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller (rev 01)
01:03.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933/711E1 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller (rev 01)
01:0b.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems WinModem 56k (rev 01)


lsusb
-----

Bus 2 Device 1: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 1 Device 1: ID 0000:0000 


/sbin/ifconfig -a
-----------------

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback 
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)



/sbin/iwconfig
--------------

lo        no wireless extensions.

Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: newt on September 09, 2008, 08:15:55 pm
So, is the LAN (ethernet) port built into the laptop or is it supplied by a pcmcia card (pluggable card on the side of the laptop)?
If it is via a pcmcia card then what are the details of the card itself (brand, model, any info that may prove useful)?
As you've stated, it sure seems that the ethernet port is not properly recognized by VL for one reason or another.
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 09, 2008, 08:55:21 pm
So, is the LAN (ethernet) port built into the laptop or is it supplied by a pcmcia card (pluggable card on the side of the laptop)?
Yes, I think it is built in. Just beside the phone line plug for the modem, there is an eight prong plug for the cable coming from the router.
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: newt on September 09, 2008, 10:53:21 pm
Unfortunately, I do not know enough to help you further though I'm sure someone does.  The main obstacle (as I see it) is to get VL to recognize that you have a peice of hardware that it does not sense.  I would suggest making sure the ethernet port is enabled in the BIOS but it must be if windows can sense and use it.  I'm sure there is some more steps you can take to attempt getting the ethernet working in VL but I don't know what they are considering the circumstances.

HELP! ;D
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: bigpaws on September 09, 2008, 11:06:31 pm
lspci should detect the card. Please post the output
of lspci -v

Also post the output of lsmod

According to what I can find this is a 3com card. Which are usually
no problem in linux.

Bigpaws
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 10, 2008, 12:03:23 am
lspci should detect the card. Please post the output
of lspci -v. Also post the output of lsmod.
Bigpaws
@newtor
Thanks newtor for your help!
@bigpaws
I attached the files you were looking for.

Cariboo

Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: boneygamba on September 10, 2008, 01:38:36 am

Hi Cariboo, Guys

I would just add that according to http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins2500/en/sm_en/specs.htm (http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins2500/en/sm_en/specs.htm), the network card comes as an option (http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins2500/en/sm_en/specs.htm#1085444) in this series(Inspiron 2500).
Given the output of lspci (and the other commands) perhaps this particular laptop only has the 56k modem installed?

I know that you say that it works in win XP but i thought i would post all the same just in case it helps. : - )

boneygamba
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 10, 2008, 09:44:58 pm
Hi Cariboo, Guys
I would just add that according to http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins2500/en/sm_en/specs.htm (http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins2500/en/sm_en/specs.htm), the network card comes as an option (http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins2500/en/sm_en/specs.htm#1085444) in this series(Inspiron 2500).
Given the output of lspci (and the other commands) perhaps this particular laptop only has the 56k modem installed?
I know that you say that it works in win XP but i thought i would post all the same just in case it helps. : - )
boneygamba
Thanks for the hint...I googled and now I know why it works in Windows. The card is a "Mini PCI card modem/network adapter" and in Windows there is a driver for it installed. The Windows driver for that card comes from HERE (http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&releaseid=R36933&SystemID=INS_PNT_CEL_P3CG_2500&servicetag=&os=WW1&osl=en&deviceid=459&devlib=0&typecnt=0&vercnt=1&catid=-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=1&libid=5&fileid=42871).
It looks there is no driver for Linux available. ???  :'(
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: newt on September 10, 2008, 10:17:42 pm
There's potential hope here.  I've read of other folks getting this same device up and running through various methods.  I think the easiest method - assuming it was missed during install - is to make sure you installed the pcmcia packages during setup.  Hopefully you didn't and it'll just be a matter of installing that and rebooting (maybe a modprobe as well).  Do a search in gslapt for 'pcmcia' and if it looks like the packages haven't been installed then install them and reboot (should be two packages I think).  Hopefully it'll be that easy :D

EDIT:
Also what is the output of:
ls -al /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 11, 2008, 08:13:59 am
Hi newtor,
unfortunately it seems to be not that easy....

The packages "pcmcia-cs" and "pcmciautils" were installed.
The output of 'ls -al /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia' is:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1722 2007-03-16 21:09 /etc/rc.d/rcpcmcia.

What would be a modprobe?

Thanks
Cariboo
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: newt on September 11, 2008, 09:17:36 am
Let's start by making your rc.pcmcia script executable so that it starts at boot time to see if your ethernet card will show up (as root, chmod a+x /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia), then run the script (as root, /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia), and then run 'lspci' again.  If you still do not see your 3com card, try rebooting and running 'lspci' once you're booted.  Hopefully we're on the right track here!!
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: bigpaws on September 11, 2008, 09:19:56 am
I am guessing that your card is removable and is using the
pcmcia slot.

The problem is that you did not setup the system to allow the use
of the pcmcia card, which in return has made solving this problem
longer than expected.

The question about modprobe is used to is to insert a module (driver if you will)
into the kernel.

The solution is getting very close.

Bigpawss
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 11, 2008, 10:00:15 am
I am guessing that your card is removable and is using the
pcmcia slot.

No, the card can not be accessed from outside!

Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 11, 2008, 10:07:30 am
Let's start by making your rc.pcmcia script executable so that it starts at boot time to see if your ethernet card will show up (as root, chmod a+x /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia), then run the script (as root, /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia), and then run 'lspci' again.  If you still do not see your 3com card, try rebooting and running 'lspci' once you're booted.  Hopefully we're on the right track here!!
I got rc.pcmcia executable, but I don't know if command '/etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia' did anything.
Is this '/etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia'  the full command and what would I have to expect?
'lspci' gives still this:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 11)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC) (rev 11)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BAM IDE U100 Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
01:03.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933/711E1 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller (rev 01)
01:03.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933/711E1 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller (rev 01)
01:0b.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems WinModem 56k (rev 01)

Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: newt on September 11, 2008, 10:12:35 am
Perhaps I missed a word - oops (/etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia start)
Sorry about that!

Just to make sure we're talking about the same kind of hardware,
Does your ethernet card look like any of the two links below, or is it actually built into the laptop body and cannot be removed?
http://www.teksale.com/images/dell%203com%2010-100%203CCFE575CT.jpg
http://www.aiyamicro.com/pc-parts-peripherals/pics-computer-parts/3CCFE575CT.jpg

Maybe with a cable like this one?
http://www.mymetropolist.com/forsale/dell_3ccfe575ct-d_3com.jpg

Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 11, 2008, 10:49:21 am
Just to make sure we're talking about the same kind of hardware,
Does your ethernet card look like any of the two links below,
http://www.teksale.com/images/dell%203com%2010-100%203CCFE575CT.jpg
http://www.aiyamicro.com/pc-parts-peripherals/pics-computer-parts/3CCFE575CT.jpg
Maybe with a cable like this one?
http://www.mymetropolist.com/forsale/dell_3ccfe575ct-d_3com.jpg
No, it doesn't look like any of these....

or is it actually built into the laptop body and cannot be removed?
Yes, it's built into the laptop and can't be removed!
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: newt on September 11, 2008, 11:09:35 am
Okay, forget the pcmcia stuff... I was traveling down the wrong path.  I thought you were dealing with a pcmcia card based on your link to dell's driver, but (as you've already stated) it's a mini-pci card with both modem and lan.

According to someone using ubuntu, there are a couple options you could try:

The simplest being to try manually loading the module/driver yourself (assuming it's available to load by default).  But it should be as simple as entering the following command as root: modprobe 3c59x
Then check to make sure the module is loaded (lsmod), and if so then see if your hardware shows in 'lspci'

Another possiblity is to try using apm rather than acpi, by adding a few appends (arguments) to your lilo.conf file.  Start with the above option first and see where it gets you.
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 11, 2008, 11:58:01 am
According to someone using ubuntu, there are a couple options you could try:
The simplest being to try manually loading the module/driver yourself (assuming it's available to load by default).  But it should be as simple as entering the following command as root: modprobe 3c59x
Then check to make sure the module is loaded (lsmod), and if so then see if your hardware shows in 'lspci'
 
Thanks newtor,
I attached the output of the terminal after running the suggested procedure!
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: newt on September 11, 2008, 06:27:34 pm
When you run 'ifconfig -a' does anything besides the 'lo' device show up; i.e. eth0 maybe?

Again, I'm reaching about my extent with troubleshooting troublesome hardware :P ;D.  I "feel" like you are on the verge of a breakthrough but I don't think I can get you all the way there.  I'm hoping someone else will drop in with some ideas on how to further proceed.

The only other thing I've found that might be worth a try is to try is disabling acpi and enabling apm.  A way you can test this without making actual changes via the following procedure:
reboot
when lilo pops up, press 'TAB' key
type 'linux acpi=off noacpi' without the quotes
login to VL
as root, type 'modprobe apm' (does this command work for you?)
then check lspci and ifconfig -a for your ethernet card and eth0, respectively.

If it makes no difference then simply rebooting normally will put you back to where you were.
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: toothandnail on September 11, 2008, 07:04:23 pm
According to someone using ubuntu, there are a couple options you could try:
The simplest being to try manually loading the module/driver yourself (assuming it's available to load by default).  But it should be as simple as entering the following command as root: modprobe 3c59x
Then check to make sure the module is loaded (lsmod), and if so then see if your hardware shows in 'lspci'
 
Thanks newtor,
I attached the output of the terminal after running the suggested procedure!

Looking at the file you uploaded (it would be easier to copy to the clipboard and paste between code tags, BTW), the module has loaded, but lspci does not report the hardware at all, which is quite strange.

I would almost suggest getting another mini-PCI card (I know there are combos which provide modem and ethernet - I've seen an Intel one that has both, though I don't know if the Intel modem has support under Linux). Anyhow, that might be an option - should be quite easy to pick one up from somewhere like eBay, and they are usually not too difficult to change.

Try 'lspci -v' as root and paste the output, maybe that will reveal a bit more. At the moment, it is a s though Linux doesn't see the hardware at all.

paul.
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 11, 2008, 08:59:07 pm

@ Paul
Quote
Try 'lspci -v' as root and paste the output, maybe that will reveal a bit more. At the moment, it is a s though Linux doesn't see the hardware at all.

paul.

!!!!!!!!!!!Pasting the output of the terminal gives some Font Size Problems when I preview the text!!!!!!

lspci -v
--------

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 11)
        Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 00c9
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Capabilities: [88] Vendor Specific Information

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC) (rev 11) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
        Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 00c9
        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
        Memory at f8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
        Memory at f4000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
        Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=09, sec-latency=64
        I/O behind bridge: 00002000-00002fff
        Memory behind bridge: f4100000-f41fffff
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 10000000-17ffffff

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 03)
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BAM IDE U100 Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 80 [Master])
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
        [virtual] Memory at 000001f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=8]
        [virtual] Memory at 000003f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
        [virtual] Memory at 00000170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=8]
        [virtual] Memory at 00000370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
        I/O ports at 1800 [size=16]

00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5
        I/O ports at 1820 [size=32]

00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 03)
        Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 5
        I/O ports at 1810 [size=16]

00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5
        I/O ports at 1880 [size=32]

00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
        Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 00c9
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5
        I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
        I/O ports at 1840 [size=64]

01:03.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933/711E1 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller (rev 01)
        Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 00c9
        Flags: bus master, stepping, slow devsel, latency 168, IRQ 5
        Memory at f4101000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Bus: primary=01, secondary=02, subordinate=05, sec-latency=176
        Memory window 0: 10000000-13fff000 (prefetchable)
        Memory window 1: 18000000-1bfff000
        I/O window 0: 00002800-000028ff
        I/O window 1: 00002c00-00002cff
        16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

01:03.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933/711E1 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller (rev 01)
        Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 00c9
        Flags: bus master, stepping, slow devsel, latency 168, IRQ 5
        Memory at f4102000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Bus: primary=01, secondary=06, subordinate=09, sec-latency=176
        Memory window 0: 14000000-17fff000 (prefetchable)
        Memory window 1: 1c000000-1ffff000
        I/O window 0: 00001400-000014ff
        I/O window 1: 00003000-000030ff
        16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

01:0b.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems WinModem 56k (rev 01)
        Subsystem: Actiontec Electronics Inc Unknown device 2000
        Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 5
        Memory at f4100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
        I/O ports at 2400 [size=8]
        I/O ports at 2000 [size=256]
        Capabilities: [f8] Power Management version 2
   

lsmod
-----

Module                  Size  Used by
freq_table              4768  0
lp                     10888  0
parport_pc             37092  1
parport                32072  2 lp,parport_pc
i915                   23296  0
drm                    74388  1 i915
snd_seq_dummy           3716  0
snd_seq_oss            30080  0
snd_seq_midi_event      7040  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                47952  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          7436  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            40096  0
snd_mixer_oss          15104  1 snd_pcm_oss
serio_raw               6276  0
martian_dev            17940  1
snd_intel8x0           29596  2
snd_ac97_codec         97060  1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus                2944  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                69892  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer              19844  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    44516  13 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore               7008  1 snd
snd_page_alloc          8712  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
intel_agp              22420  1
agpgart                28108  3 drm,intel_agp
iTCO_wdt                9640  0
i2c_i801                8592  0
i2c_i810                5380  0
shpchp                 30228  0
i2c_algo_bit            6532  1 i2c_i810
pci_hotplug            28616  1 shpchp
i2c_core               20992  3 i2c_i801,i2c_i810,i2c_algo_bit
evdev                   8704  0
joydev                  9152  0

Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 11, 2008, 09:25:23 pm
When you run 'ifconfig -a' does anything besides the 'lo' device show up; i.e. eth0 maybe?
No, nothing like that.........

The only other thing I've found that might be worth a try is to try is disabling acpi and enabling apm.  A way you can test this without making actual changes via the following procedure:
reboot
when lilo pops up, press 'TAB' key
type 'linux acpi=off noacpi' without the quotes
login to VL
as root, type 'modprobe apm' (does this command work for you?)
How do I know if it worked?

then check lspci and ifconfig -a for your ethernet card and eth0, respectively.
If it makes no difference then simply rebooting normally will put you back to where you were.
No ethernet card or eth0 or any thing like that...

Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: newt on September 11, 2008, 10:12:28 pm
The 'modprobe apm' would have indicated an error in one way or another - something to the effect of 'module not found'.  If you saw nothing (i.e. back to a prompt) then likely the command was successful.

There are a couple other possibilities that are easy to test:

Can you try a 'modprobe 3c556' to see if your card is then identified in lspci? (fingers crossed).

Do you see anything useful in the output from 'cat /proc/pci' (as root)?  Particularly about '3com' or 'ethernet' anything (fingers crossed).

These ideas are from here: http://www.geocities.jp/fred_b_maciel/3c556/

----------------

Here's an interesting read: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_3Com_10/100_Ethernet_card_not_being_recognized

It indicates that (at least in IBM thinkpads) there's the possibility that 3com ethernet adapters may not be identified with kernels prior to 2.6.14-b1 with ACPI enabled.  IIRC, VL 5.9 Standard used 2.6.13 (IIRC) - so perhaps there's a similarity to this with your Dell Inspiron 2500.  Possible solutions for this involve what's listed on the page and/or a kernel upgrade from the VL repository to something newer (2.6.23+).
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: caitlyn on September 11, 2008, 10:23:11 pm
VL 5.9 standard uses a 2.6.22.x kernel.  You're thinking of 5.8.  So... that isn't it.  :(

I wish I had useful ideas but I don't at the moment.
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: toothandnail on September 12, 2008, 07:10:11 am

@ Paul
Quote
Try 'lspci -v' as root and paste the output, maybe that will reveal a bit more. At the moment, it is a s though Linux doesn't see the hardware at all.

paul.

!!!!!!!!!!!Pasting the output of the terminal gives some Font Size Problems when I preview the text!!!!!!

 ;D Which is why you should use code tage. Not sure if I can enter them here, maybe if I leave spaces between the elements...  You should start with [ code ], paste the data you want people to see, then use [ / code ] to end the data. Or you can use the # symbol above the smileys and paste your data between the two square bracketed symbols.

The strnage thing is, even with 'lspci -v', there is no sign of the ehternet controller. You might want to try 'modprobe mii' - with one HP machine, I had to modprobe both the intel e100 module and mii to get the adapter functional. Other than that, I'm afraid my knowledge has run out....

paul.

paul.
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: boneygamba on September 12, 2008, 07:48:49 am


The strnage thing is, even with 'lspci -v', there is no sign of the ehternet controller.

That is what prompted me to post before.  You would think that there would be some sign of the device!!?!
I notice that at http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/classifieds/124592-fs-dell-inspiron-2500-laptop.html the original poster mentions how the lan jack is there but not connected to anything.

It would be interesting to see what the device looks like when viewed through the 'Device Manager' under Windows.  Perhaps there may be some information gleaned from there which proves helpful.

Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 12, 2008, 09:16:07 am
Can you try a 'modprobe 3c556' to see if your card is then identified in lspci? (fingers crossed).
Terminal output:
FATAL: Module 3c556 not found.

Do you see anything useful in the output from 'cat /proc/pci' (as root)?  Particularly about '3com' or 'ethernet' anything (fingers crossed).
Terminal output:
cat: /proc/pci: No such file or directory

----These ideas are from here: http://www.geocities.jp/fred_b_maciel/3c556/

----Here's an interesting read: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_3Com_10/100_Ethernet_card_not_being_recognized

I'll check these links later.
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 12, 2008, 12:30:07 pm
It would be interesting to see what the device looks like when viewed through the 'Device Manager' under Windows.  Perhaps there may be some information gleaned from there which proves helpful.
Good thought, but now the confusion is complete. I can't find anything about a LAN connection in Windows either  ???
See screenshots in the attachment.
 :o

EDIT:
I found THIS (http://www.geocities.jp/fred_b_maciel/3c556/) and THAT (http://www.geocities.jp/fred_b_maciel/3c556/ethernet.html) website and as I understand it, the problem is related to the kernel version used in VL 5.9.
I checked with 'uname -a' and got Linux 2.6.22.19.
As I'm not smart enough how to figure out if this kernel does support the
driver for the 3Com Mini PCI devices 3c556 (PCI Device id=6055), I would like to ask if somebody could help me here?
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 14, 2008, 09:11:46 pm
Hi,
I'm just wondering, has somebody a Dell Inspiron 2500 Laptop connected to high speed Internet with the built-in
3c556 Mini PCI adapters (combo adapters that include a modem)?
Please tell me how you got it to work!
 ???
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: bigpaws on September 14, 2008, 10:16:04 pm
I found this:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_Inspiron_2500 (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_Inspiron_2500)

The problem that I see is that your card (I question if it exits) should show
in the output of lspci. Without an address space it is almost impossible to
fix.

There are posts that I found from 2002 that mention this card could have some
type of subsystem that can only be recognized in Windows.

Bigpaws

Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 15, 2008, 10:16:38 am
I found this:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_Inspiron_2500 (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_Inspiron_2500)
Bigpaws
Thanks, BigPaws, very much!  ;)
This is exactly the Laptop I have. The card is built in (not accessible, not in a card slot).
As one could see in the Hardware list, the connection is a "3Com 3c905C Fast Ethernet"
and I wonder if there is any driver in Linux for that.
My Google-ing was not successful yet!
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: bigpaws on September 15, 2008, 10:25:36 am
I have spent some time with google as well.

The problem is that your lspci is not showing the device.

There maybe one more place to check

Please place the output of dmesg. This would be
the only other place I can think of to check.

Bigpaws
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 15, 2008, 11:35:53 am
Please place the output of dmesg. This would be
the only other place I can think of to check.
Bigpaws

Here is "dmesg":
Quote
root:# dmesg
Linux version 2.6.22.19 (root@vector.linux.net) (gcc version 4.1.2) #2 SMP PREEMPT Sun May 18 11:43:17 Local time zone must be set--
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009f800 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 000000000009f800 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000000d0000 - 00000000000d4000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000000e6400 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000007e70000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000007e70000 - 0000000007e7fc00 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000007e7fc00 - 0000000007e80000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000007e80000 - 0000000008000000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000fff00000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
0MB HIGHMEM available.
126MB LOWMEM available.
Entering add_active_range(0, 0, 32368) 0 entries of 256 used
Zone PFN ranges:
  DMA             0 ->     4096
  Normal       4096 ->    32368
  HighMem     32368 ->    32368
early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges
    0:        0 ->    32368
On node 0 totalpages: 32368
  DMA zone: 32 pages used for memmap
  DMA zone: 0 pages reserved
  DMA zone: 4064 pages, LIFO batch:0
  Normal zone: 220 pages used for memmap
  Normal zone: 28052 pages, LIFO batch:7
  HighMem zone: 0 pages used for memmap
DMI 2.3 present.
ACPI: RSDP 000F6710, 0014 (r0 PTLTD )
ACPI: RSDT 07E7BBD7, 002C (r1 PTLTD      RSDT    6040000  LTP        0)
ACPI: FACP 07E7FB64, 0074 (r1 INTEL  OSPREY2   6040000 ROYZ        1)
ACPI: DSDT 07E7BC03, 3F61 (r1  PTLTD   L2 1.3  6040000 MSFT  100000C)
ACPI: FACS 07E7FFC0, 0040
ACPI: BOOT 07E7FBD8, 0028 (r1 PTLTD  $SBFTBL$  6040000  LTP        1)
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x1008
Allocating PCI resources starting at 10000000 (gap: 08000000:f7f00000)
Built 1 zonelists.  Total pages: 32116
Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=305 splash=silent
bootsplash: silent mode.
Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- you can enable it with "lapic"
mapped APIC to ffffd000 (0110c000)
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 512 (order: 9, 2048 bytes)
Detected 797.606 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
Memory: 121044k/129472k available (4043k kernel code, 7876k reserved, 1806k data, 280k init, 0k highmem)
virtual kernel memory layout:
    fixmap  : 0xfff4e000 - 0xfffff000   ( 708 kB)
    pkmap   : 0xff800000 - 0xffc00000   (4096 kB)
    vmalloc : 0xc8800000 - 0xff7fe000   ( 879 MB)
    lowmem  : 0xc0000000 - 0xc7e70000   ( 126 MB)
      .init : 0xc06bf000 - 0xc0705000   ( 280 kB)
      .data : 0xc04f2c64 - 0xc06b6644   (1806 kB)
      .text : 0xc0100000 - 0xc04f2c64   (4043 kB)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok.
Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 1595.92 BogoMIPS (lpj=797964)
Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0383f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 256K
CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000040 00000000 00000000 00000000
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
Compat vDSO mapped to ffffe000.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
SMP alternatives: switching to UP code
Freeing SMP alternatives: 18k freed
ACPI: Core revision 20070126
ACPI: setting ELCR to 0200 (from 0220)
CPU0: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 0a
SMP motherboard not detected.
Local APIC not detected. Using dummy APIC emulation.
Brought up 1 CPUs
NET: Registered protocol family 16
No dock devices found.
ACPI: bus type pci registered
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd9ca, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
Setting up standard PCI resources
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5)
ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI quirk: region 1000-107f claimed by ICH4 ACPI/GPIO/TCO
PCI quirk: region 1180-11bf claimed by ICH4 GPIO
PCI: Transparent bridge - 0000:00:1e.0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.HUB_._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs *10)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs *5)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs *5)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs *5)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs *5)
Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
pnp: PnP ACPI init
ACPI: bus type pnp registered
pnp: PnP ACPI: found 11 devices
ACPI: ACPI bus type pnp unregistered
SCSI subsystem initialized
usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new interface driver hub
usbcore: registered new device driver usb
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq".  If it helps, post a report
pnp: 00:01: iomem range 0xcc000-0xd3fff could not be reserved
pnp: 00:01: iomem range 0xff800000-0xffffffff could not be reserved
Time: tsc clocksource has been installed.
PCI: Bus 2, cardbus bridge: 0000:01:03.0
  IO window: 00002800-000028ff
  IO window: 00002c00-00002cff
  PREFETCH window: 10000000-13ffffff
  MEM window: 18000000-1bffffff
PCI: Bus 6, cardbus bridge: 0000:01:03.1
  IO window: 00001400-000014ff
  IO window: 00003000-000030ff
  PREFETCH window: 14000000-17ffffff
  MEM window: 1c000000-1fffffff
PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:1e.0
  IO window: 2000-2fff
  MEM window: f4100000-f41fffff
  PREFETCH window: 10000000-17ffffff
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1e.0 to 64
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 5
PCI: setting IRQ 5 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:03.0[A] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:01:03.0 to 64
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:03.1 -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:01:03.1 to 64
NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP route cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
TCP established hash table entries: 4096 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 49152 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 4096)
TCP reno registered
checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (bad gzip magic numbers); looks like an initrd
Freeing initrd memory: 205k freed
Simple Boot Flag at 0x37 set to 0x1
scx200: NatSemi SCx200 Driver
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
NTFS driver 2.1.28 [Flags: R/W].
JFS: nTxBlock = 948, nTxLock = 7589
SGI XFS with ACLs, security attributes, realtime, no debug enabled
SGI XFS Quota Management subsystem
io scheduler noop registered
io scheduler anticipatory registered
io scheduler deadline registered
io scheduler cfq registered (default)
Boot video device is 0000:00:02.0
ACPI: AC Adapter [AC] (on-line)
ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0] (battery present)
input: Power Button (FF) as /class/input/input0
ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF]
input: Lid Switch as /class/input/input1
ACPI: Lid Switch [liD]
input: Sleep Button (CM) as /class/input/input2
ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SLPB]
ACPI: CPU0 (power states: C1[C1] C3[C3])
ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports 8 throttling states)
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Real Time Clock Driver v1.12ac
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled
Marking TSC unstable due to: TSC halts in C3.
Time: acpi_pm clocksource has been installed.
serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
00:09: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 16384K size 1024 blocksize
loop: module loaded
Compaq SMART2 Driver (v 2.6.0)
HP CISS Driver (v 3.6.14)
input: Macintosh mouse button emulation as /class/input/input3
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
ICH2M: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:1f.1
ICH2M: chipset revision 3
ICH2M: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1800-0x1807, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0x1808-0x180f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
Probing IDE interface ide0...
Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -458717438 ns)
hda: IBM-DJSA-220, ATA DISK drive
hda: selected mode 0x44
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Probing IDE interface ide1...
hdc: LG DVD-ROM DRN-8080B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdc: selected mode 0x22
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: max request size: 128KiB
hda: 39070080 sectors (20003 MB) w/1874KiB Cache, CHS=38760/16/63, UDMA(66)
hda: cache flushes not supported
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 hda6 >
hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache, DMA
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
Loading iSCSI transport class v2.0-724.
Yenta: CardBus bridge found at 0000:01:03.0 [1028:00c9]
Yenta O2: res at 0x94/0xD4: c8/00
Yenta O2: enabling read prefetch/write burst
Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0898, PCI irq 5
Socket status: 30000006
Yenta: Raising subordinate bus# of parent bus (#01) from #01 to #05
pcmcia: parent PCI bridge I/O window: 0x2000 - 0x2fff
cs: IO port probe 0x2000-0x2fff: clean.
pcmcia: parent PCI bridge Memory window: 0xf4100000 - 0xf41fffff
pcmcia: parent PCI bridge Memory window: 0x10000000 - 0x17ffffff
Yenta: CardBus bridge found at 0000:01:03.1 [1028:00c9]
Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0898, PCI irq 5
Socket status: 30000006
Yenta: Raising subordinate bus# of parent bus (#01) from #05 to #09
pcmcia: parent PCI bridge I/O window: 0x2000 - 0x2fff
cs: IO port probe 0x2000-0x2fff: clean.
pcmcia: parent PCI bridge Memory window: 0xf4100000 - 0xf41fffff
pcmcia: parent PCI bridge Memory window: 0x10000000 - 0x17ffffff
Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found.
Databook TCIC-2 PCMCIA probe: not found.
usbmon: debugfs is not available
116x: driver isp116x-hcd, 03 Nov 2005
ohci_hcd: 2006 August 04 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver
USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v3.0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 5
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[D] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.2 to 64
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: irq 5, io base 0x00001820
usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 5
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.4[C] -> Link [LNKH] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.4 to 64
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.4: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.4: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.4: irq 5, io base 0x00001880
usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
sl811: driver sl811-hcd, 19 May 2005
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.
usbcore: registered new interface driver libusual
PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:KBC0,PNP0f13:MSE0] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12
serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input4
Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 5.7, id: 0x8146b1, caps: 0x804793/0x0
serio: Synaptics pass-through port at isa0060/serio1/input0
input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /class/input/input5
md: linear personality registered for level -1
md: raid0 personality registered for level 0
md: raid1 personality registered for level 1
md: raid10 personality registered for level 10
raid6: int32x1    246 MB/s
raid6: int32x2    281 MB/s
raid6: int32x4    230 MB/s
raid6: int32x8    214 MB/s
raid6: mmxx1      664 MB/s
raid6: mmxx2      878 MB/s
raid6: sse1x1     648 MB/s
raid6: sse1x2     867 MB/s
raid6: using algorithm sse1x2 (867 MB/s)
md: raid6 personality registered for level 6
md: raid5 personality registered for level 5
md: raid4 personality registered for level 4
raid5: automatically using best checksumming function: pIII_sse
   pIII_sse  :  1692.000 MB/sec
raid5: using function: pIII_sse (1692.000 MB/sec)
device-mapper: ioctl: 4.11.0-ioctl (2006-10-12) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com
sdhci: Secure Digital Host Controller Interface driver
sdhci: Copyright(c) Pierre Ossman
wbsd: Winbond W83L51xD SD/MMC card interface driver
wbsd: Copyright(c) Pierre Ossman
usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev
usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver
TCP cubic registered
Initializing XFRM netlink socket
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 17
Using IPI No-Shortcut mode
md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
md: autorun ...
md: ... autorun DONE.
RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0.
Replacing swsusp.
TuxOnIce: Resume= parameter is empty. Hibernating will be disabled.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 280k freed
cs: IO port probe 0xc00-0xcff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x820-0x8ff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x800-0x80f: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x3e0-0x4ff: excluding 0x4d0-0x4d7
cs: IO port probe 0x100-0x3af: excluding 0x378-0x37f
cs: IO port probe 0xa00-0xaff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0xc00-0xcff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x820-0x8ff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x800-0x80f: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x3e0-0x4ff: excluding 0x4d0-0x4d7
cs: IO port probe 0x100-0x3af: excluding 0x378-0x37f
cs: IO port probe 0xa00-0xaff: clean.
pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4
i810_smbus 0000:00:02.0: i810/i815 i2c device found.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 5
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.3 -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
iTCO_wdt: Intel TCO WatchDog Timer Driver v1.01 (21-Jan-2007)
iTCO_wdt: Found a ICH2-M TCO device (Version=1, TCOBASE=0x1060)
iTCO_wdt: initialized. heartbeat=30 sec (nowayout=0)
intel_rng: FWH not detected
Linux agpgart interface v0.102 (c) Dave Jones
agpgart: Detected an Intel i815 Chipset.
agpgart: detected 4MB dedicated video ram.
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xf8000000
martian loaded - 20061202
PCI: Enabling device 0000:01:0b.0 (0100 -> 0103)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:0b.0[A] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
"martian_dev": added device 11c1:448 BaseAddress = 0x2000, CommAddres = 0x2400, irq = 5
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.5 -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 50354 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 48000
Adding 514072k swap on /dev/hda3.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:514072k
TuxOnIce: Resume= parameter is empty. Hibernating will be disabled.
[drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
parport_pc 00:08: reported by Plug and Play ACPI
parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP]
lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
lp0: console ready
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac)
apm: overridden by ACPI.
"martian_dev": serving irqs in module
"martian_dev": martian_modem is attached.
southcariboo:/~
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: toothandnail on September 15, 2008, 11:48:45 am
I found this:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_Inspiron_2500 (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_Inspiron_2500)
Bigpaws
Thanks, BigPaws, very much!  ;)
This is exactly the Laptop I have. The card is built in (not accessible, not in a card slot).
As one could see in the Hardware list, the connection is a "3Com 3c905C Fast Ethernet"
and I wonder if there is any driver in Linux for that.
My Google-ing was not successful yet!

The data I can find on the machine indicates that the ethernet is on a mini-PCI card, which can certainly be replaced. And replacements can be bought. Have a look here:

http://www.alancomputech.com/4g889.html

Mini-PCI stuff is usually easy to change, once you work out where it is. There will be the card, and there will be two small plug/sockets, which connect to the modem and ethernet socket on the outer case of the machine.

paul.
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: bigpaws on September 15, 2008, 11:51:51 am
Dmesg gave no indication of the card.

Which if I were to guess means the device is turned off in some manner

Is there a hotkey to enable or disable this device?

Bigpaws
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 15, 2008, 12:31:17 pm
@BigPaws:
Quote
Is there a hotkey to enable or disable this device?

I can't find any key for that?
How would it look like?
Do you mean a keyboard key?

@Paul:
The data I can find on the machine indicates that the ethernet is on a mini-PCI card, which can certainly be replaced. And replacements can be bought. Have a look here:

http://www.alancomputech.com/4g889.html

Mini-PCI stuff is usually easy to change, once you work out where it is. There will be the card, and there will be two small plug/sockets, which connect to the modem and ethernet socket on the outer case of the machine.

paul.

In case I would have to go the replacement route,
---is it sure that I can get it working in Linux?
---which driver would I need?
---would Windows still recognize the replacement card?
---is it easy/save to open the laptop case?

I have to confess, I'm a bit nervous to go that way, but I think I'm getting closer to solve the issue  ::)

HELP please!

Cariboo
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: boneygamba on September 16, 2008, 04:44:56 am

In case I would have to go the replacement route,
---is it sure that I can get it working in Linux?
---which driver would I need?
---would Windows still recognize the replacement card?
---is it easy/save to open the laptop case?

Cariboo

Hello again Cariboo  ;D

If you decide to venture into the innards of your machine then why not have a look at this page:   

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/1071163441

From that page:
"Hello, Thank you for contacting Dell Hardware E-Support and Services. I have gone through your issue and feel that the following information will help you. Reseat the mini-PCI card.* - L2 chassis To reseat the mini-PCI card, follow the steps below: Locate the smaller of the two removable panels on the bottom of the computer. Use a small Phillips (#1) to remove the screw. Lift off the cover. Push outward on the two retaining clips. Once the clips release, the card will pop up at an angle. Disconnect the wiring harness and carefully pull the card out of its socket. Reseat the card, following the above steps in reverse order."

If you are careful and follow the instructions you should be OK. The full post alludes to there being more information available via an 'online guide'. Wether or not this is still available i do not know.
Other people(more knowledgeable about such things) may be able to offer advice as to electrical safety.

You never know...you may be able to fix your problem without having to purchase a new part(although they seem to be fairly inexpensive).

--paul

Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 17, 2008, 12:00:42 pm


Hello again Cariboo  ;D

If you decide to venture into the innards of your machine then why not have a look at this page:   

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/1071163441

--paul


Many thanks Paul  :)
I had a look at this page and as I understand it, the guy had a problem with WindowsXP and the network card!
In my case, in Windows the high speed connection via this card works just fine.
The issue is, that Linux does not see/detect the card.

Cariboo
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: newt on September 17, 2008, 12:42:39 pm
If you have broadband, and plenty of bandwidth, it may be worth a shot to download some other live distributions to see if they fare better with that particular peice of hardware.  If you are able to find a distribution that does then perhaps we can fix VL so that it will also, as well as making a permanent fix for future releases.  My recommendation would be to try Damn Small Linux, PCLinuxOS, and Knoppix.  If you don't have decent bandwidth then Damn Small Linux and Puppy are relatively small.  I'm hoping that you'll be able to find a distro that supports this device so that we can learn from them how to make VL support this device.
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 17, 2008, 04:05:27 pm
If you have broadband, ................... try Damn Small Linux, PCLinuxOS, and Knoppix.  ......... I'm hoping that you'll be able to find a distro that supports this device so that we can learn from them how to make VL support this device.

I don't have broadband, but I have a Knoppix CD. Can I try Knoppix for that without installing it? I learned it's not that easy to install... ???
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: newt on September 17, 2008, 06:23:55 pm
Yes, knoppix is live by default.  You should be able to boot from CD and have knoppix load from the cd (into ram).  Once you reach the desktop, you should be able to run similar commands to see if your hardware is detected (lspci, specifically).  There should not be any password for root, and 'sudo su' is likely the way to access root.  It'll be interesting to see if knoppix can detect your hardware.
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 17, 2008, 09:06:08 pm
Hi,
I'm running the Knoppix 5.1 Live system. I used the same commands as usual to see if the ethernet is detected...
No success...
I found a tool called "DSL/p ppoE configuration tool" and it allows to load device drivers which I have to choose from categories like: kernel/drivers/net/... or kernel/net/... but I have no clue what driver I would need and all my searches were futil yet... :'(
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: newt on September 17, 2008, 10:42:07 pm
Well I was really hoping knoppix would show your device; it is debian-based so at least you were testing a different linux base.  Plus, IIRC knoppix has been known for pretty good hardware detection.

If you're willing to download ~90mb then you could try puppy v4.  It's also small live distro and is neither slack- nor debian-based, so you would be testing a different method of hardware detection:
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/puppy-4.00-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso

At this point, to avoid a hardware change, I'm hoping you'll be able to find a distro that recognizes your hardware so we can fix VL to support it.  As an alternative to replacing a mini-pci card, if you have extra usb connections, you could always try using one of those usb-to-ethernet adapters.  I don't know how well they are supported but I imagine there are (at least) some that are supported.
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: toothandnail on September 18, 2008, 01:26:06 am
Since the machine has two PCMCIA/Cardbus slots, a PCMCI ethernet adaptor might be the simplest approach. Xircom are usually supported under Linux, as are the IBM (Intel-based) cards. Should be cheap and are not a problem to fit.

paul.
Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: boneygamba on September 18, 2008, 06:10:41 am
The issue is, that Linux does not see/detect the card.
Cariboo

Sorry for not being clear Cariboo. Originally i had intended to mention to you just to ignore the bits about winXP/2000.  :-[

The main idea that i was trying to get across was that maybe the network interface card is not connected properly and that an inspection of the part could eliminate that as being a possibility.

Here are the official instructions from Dell: (complete with electrical safety precautions  ;D )
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins2500/en/sm_en/remove.htm#1050760


Title: Re: No High Speed Internet..
Post by: Cariboo on September 18, 2008, 08:32:02 am
........
If you're willing to download ~90mb then you could try puppy v4.  It's also small live distro and is neither slack- nor debian-based, so you would be testing a different method of hardware detection:
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/puppy-4.00-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso
.........
Thanks for the help, to all...
I'm willing to try everything..... ;D
I'll keep you posted............!

@Paul
I looked HERE (http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins2500/en/sm_en/remove.htm#1050760) and I couldn't find any second cardbus slot  ???