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General Announcements => Distro Releases => Topic started by: nightflier on January 19, 2009, 10:17:22 am

Title: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: nightflier on January 19, 2009, 10:17:22 am
The Vector Linux team has released Vector Linux 6.0 Light Beta 2.

Find the ISO here: http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-6.0/iso-release/VL6.0-Light-B2.iso
md5sum: a2e2b3f5c91e605d1319f44bff4aadf2  VL6.0-Light-B2.iso

Please test and post your feedback, comments and bug reports in this thread:
http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=8268.0

Thank you to all the testers, volunteers and contributors who made this release possible.

A quick overview of VL Light 6.0 features can be found here:
http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=8012.0
Changelog, Beta 1 to Beta 2, January 18, 2009: VL6.0-Light-B2.iso:
Upgraded: kernel, modules and source to 2.6.27.10
Installed new: alsa-driver-1.0.18a_2.6.27.10-i586-1vl60
Upgraded: rsync-3.0.2-i486-1 to rsync-3.0.5-i586-1vl60
Upgraded: tar-1.16.1-i486-1 to tar-1.21-i586-1vl60
Upgraded: bootsplash-3.0.7-i586-1vl60 to bootsplash-3.2.9-i586-1vl60
Upgraded: slapt-get-0.9.12d-i386-1 to slapt-get-0.10.0-i586-1vl60
Upgraded: libdrm-2.3.0-i486-1 to libdrm-2.3.1-i586-1vl60
Upgraded: link-grammar-4.3.8-i586-1vl60 to link-grammar-4.4.1-i586-1vl60
Upgraded: mesa-7.0.2-i486-1 to mesa-7.2-i586-1vl60
Upgraded: gftp-2.0.18-i486-3 to gftp-2.0.19-i586-2vl60
Upgraded: vburn-0.6.2-noarch-1vl60 to vburn-0.7-noarch-1vl60
Upgraded: samba-3.0.28a-i486-1 to samba-3.0.33-i486-1_slack12.1
Moved most packages from "required" to "veclinux" and "X11"
Deleted all launchers from Desktop
Added "Welcome.html" to /usr/doc/VLHelpCenter/
Replaced Desktop/welcome.text with launcher linking to above file.
Changed default background to "Utah_shore"
Edited vxconf to add "Tap to click" and "vertical edge scrolling" for touchpads
Changed pcmanfm preferences for normal users not to show hidden files
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Nick_13ro on January 19, 2009, 06:55:59 pm
"Deleted all launchers from Desktop"

Does that mean all icons were removed from the Desktop ? If so... why ? I like icons on my Desktop instead of a barren one.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: nightflier on January 19, 2009, 07:29:57 pm
There are two left. The "Welcome" one replaces three previous ones. "My Documents" is an internal feature of pcmanfm, so it remains.

You may add your own favorites, as many as you want.  ;)
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Nick_13ro on January 19, 2009, 07:48:12 pm
Tks.  :| I was very happy with the default ones.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: caitlyn on January 19, 2009, 10:19:28 pm
I'll download as soon as I'm done downloading Standard RC3.2.

A couple of questions:

The link-grammar package is the AbiSource build.  It's really only useful with the abiword-plugins package.  I'm assuming Light still doesn't include AbiWord so I don't understand why link-grammar is included.

The one icon I really think should be restored from VL 5.9 Light is the one to mount a CD-ROM.  That makes things much more user friendly since there is no mount applet AFAIK that works with either IceWM or JWM.

I will test this build and then post.  Thanks for all your hard work, nightflier.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Nick_13ro on January 19, 2009, 10:34:59 pm
I especially liked the old releases with half the desktop full of icons lol . And now almost no icons. :( Vector is turning into ubuntu.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: kidd on January 20, 2009, 01:17:15 am
If vector was turning into ubuntu I'd jump of the train :)

If the amount of icons are a guide to know which distro ressembles which,...  well.... Nick_13ro there's much more than this


--
for(1..100) { system("touch ~/Desktop/foo$_.desktop");}
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Nick_13ro on January 20, 2009, 01:59:49 am
If vector was turning into ubuntu I'd jump of the train :)

If the amount of icons are a guide to know which distro ressembles which,...  well.... Nick_13ro there's much more than this

  True, but still it just seems that it's moving in that direction in this beta. I can't understand where this attitude against desktop icons some people/distros seem to be having is coming from. It's like their ideal desktop is a spartan default fluxbox or something and they just make some concessions to user friendliness/usability by not pushing just that. I mean space sure can't be the motive, icon size is insignificant and look at ubuntu for ex. how they go out of their way to remove even the default ones.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: gamfa on January 20, 2009, 04:15:25 am
Desktop icons are so Window-ish. I don't like them. They mess up my nice background photo.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: EyesOnly on January 20, 2009, 04:18:53 am
Hi Nick! :)

I haven't tried 6.0 beta 2 Light but 5.9 Light is my default distro of choice. It came with "Wbar" installed. Does 6.0 Light still have Wbar installed? If not you could probably install it from GSlapt perhaps? At any rate my point in posting here for you is that you may want to give that programme a try. I first discovered it when using Puppy Linux and ever since I've made it a point it have it in every distro I install---it's that indispensible! :)

What Wbar is, in case you've never used it before, it's like a "Mac Icon Dockbar" of sorts which may be placed anywhere on the screen. (Top/bottom/left/right.) It actually increases usability/friendliness while at the same time helps beautify your desktop---and for me it has seemed anyway---my windows have rarely ever covered the bar so that, unlike desktop icons which can be hidden by programme windows and thus useless, with Wbar my programmes are always accessible. That's why I find I can't use a computer now without it! (Or I don't want to I should rather say. LOL!)

I hope this has helped Nick?

Amicalement/Cheers!

Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Nick_13ro on January 20, 2009, 05:27:28 am
@gamfa lol and I thought just the opposite that they add to the desktop both aesthetically and in functionality. Anyway you can remove icons very quickly and easily.
@EyesOnly Hi. Merci beaucoup for the suggestion. I was aware of this type of dock clones but I feel it results in some sort of weird half-breed between one type of desktop and another both duplicating and maintaining the same functionality. it sure looks nice, but for me it doesn't feel very streamlined to have both the dock and the menu.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: nightflier on January 20, 2009, 06:20:02 am
Nice feedback  :)

I confess that Light pretty much reflects my own taste and preferences, which include keyboard shortcuts for the most used apps and a bare desktop. The welcome document includes most links from previous launchers and more. However, if there is community consensus for something different, we're happy to listen.

@caitlyn: links-grammar is one of many packages that I am not totally familiar with. Cdrom-mount on desktop may be a good idea.

@EyesOnly: wbar is not included, nor is it in repo yet. Make a post for it in the "New package reqests" forum section.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Nick_13ro on January 20, 2009, 07:46:20 am
@nightflier if that means you're reconsidering the icons issue please think about something like this:

(http://www.imagehost.ro/thumbnail.php/201714054975ea3dc659b.jpg) (http://www.imagehost.ro/viewer.php?img=201714054975ea3dc659b)

(http://www.imagehost.ro/thumbnail.php/201714354975ea5b0332e.jpg) (http://www.imagehost.ro/viewer.php?img=201714354975ea5b0332e)

 ;D
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: nightflier on January 20, 2009, 08:17:44 am
Like I said, I'm willing to listen. Any additional desktop clutter icons would be an optional package.  ;)

Now, I had expected more reactions to the startup sound than to the desktop icons. Either few have actually installed and run this release, or it is not an issue.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: bigpaws on January 20, 2009, 08:36:02 am
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It's like their ideal desktop is a spartan default fluxbox or something and they just make some concessions to user friendliness/usability by not pushing just that.

Fluxbox is far from spartan. You would probably consider Ion, DWM, ratpoison and awesome as not
even useable let alone productive. Then there is screen.

Nick would you expect the same thing from Light as SOHO then?

Bigpaws
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Nick_13ro on January 20, 2009, 09:02:05 am
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It's like their ideal desktop is a spartan default fluxbox or something and they just make some concessions to user friendliness/usability by not pushing just that.

Fluxbox is far from spartan. You would probably consider Ion, DWM, ratpoison and awesome as not
even useable let alone productive. Then there is screen.

Well, I know fluxbox has a taskbar, menu, tray minus the desktop part that was the topic of discussion here. I suppose you're basically right about the others- I wouldn't appreaciate them very much at all. :)

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Nick would you expect the same thing from Light as SOHO then?

Bigpaws

I know what I'm getting. A lighter desktop but with the same basic components which in my conception should include desktop icons. Vector was my first linux distro. I wanted to try linux before that, but I was horrified only finding cd sized red hat isos. When I found Vector it was around 200 MB I think, more doable on my dialup connection. :P I wasn't able to locate a 50 MB version I read a review of.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Nick_13ro on January 20, 2009, 09:07:18 am
Like I said, I'm willing to listen. Any additional desktop clutter icons would be an optional package.  ;)

I guess an optional package is good enough. :) Please make 3 versions: regular-desktop-clutter, extra-desktop-clutter and super-desktop-clutter.  ;D

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Now, I had expected more reactions to the startup sound than to the desktop icons. Either few have actually installed and run this release, or it is not an issue.

Myself I was just preparing to go get the iso to replace standard RC3 when I saw the mention of the desktop changes...
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Nick_13ro on January 20, 2009, 09:10:34 am
double post.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: budulay on January 21, 2009, 04:28:49 pm
Just installed this brand new Beta2.
As in Beta1 or Dynamite0.7(these are the only kinds of VL6.0 I installed) the X does not start.
Will post to the bug report. The strange thing is that I have VL5.9-STD running nice on the same computer. X worked without any effort on my side(besides answering few vxconfig questions).
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Lyn on January 22, 2009, 01:21:05 am
@nightflier if that means you're reconsidering the icons issue please think about something like this:

(http://www.imagehost.ro/thumbnail.php/201714054975ea3dc659b.jpg) (http://www.imagehost.ro/viewer.php?img=201714054975ea3dc659b)

(http://www.imagehost.ro/thumbnail.php/201714354975ea5b0332e.jpg) (http://www.imagehost.ro/viewer.php?img=201714354975ea5b0332e)

 ;D

LOL I remember those days!  We have moved far in that time.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Nick_13ro on January 22, 2009, 01:43:58 am
LOL I remember those days!  We have moved far in that time.

Indeed, but I don't think desktop icons are pase.  :)
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: EyesOnly on January 22, 2009, 07:25:47 am
Thanks for those images Nick! Added them to my collection of Memorabilia here. Wow... I started with Puppy myself and then VL-5.1 which I thought was the "Cat's Meow". Like Lyn said, "We have moved far in that time." Even from the 5.1.

@Nightflier: You'd mentioned "Wbar" not being in VL6.0 Light, right? I was speaking of 5.9 Light where it's listed in here as "vl-bar" in "/usr/bin", and that's a script (which I didn't write---the code's over my little brain cell LOL) which is pointing to "wbar" in the same directory. I usually drag it over from another Slack-based install (or cheat and try the Debian binary and if it works que sera), neither of which I had to do this time as it was already there.

That was one of the things I loved so much about VL-5.9 Light this time because I just installed and had basically no setup requirements... Everything I already use, from PCmanFM, to gpicview, to wbar, was here and ready to go. :)

But in the interest of this thread remaining on topic me thinks I should pull out since this is on VL-6.0B2. ;)

Amicalement/Cheers!

Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"

(P/s: Was by the IRC help channel the other day when the forum was down---what an awesome chatroom you folks have for this distro! Way to go!)
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: gamfa on January 22, 2009, 10:51:06 am
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LOL I remember those days!  We have moved far in that time.

With all that...why bother with menus?


In the long run it's nightflier's baby and he should follow HIS instincts on what Light is to be. He is the one that ultimately has to be happy with his labor.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Lyn on January 22, 2009, 11:00:25 am
Agreed, though its always good to get feedback from people on what they like and would want.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: nightflier on January 22, 2009, 12:30:35 pm
Your feedback is greatly appreciated. Please keep it coming. All serious comments are considered before any final ruling.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: caitlyn on January 22, 2009, 01:46:01 pm
wbar is on my list of things to package for VL 6.   I make no promise about when I can get to it but it is coming.

It's perfectly easy to add desktop icons to any Linux distro with a reasonably capable window manager for whatever you want.  Just create the shortcuts and you're good to go.  The more icons added the more complaints about why app X has an icon and app Y doesn't.

The screen shots were a blast from the past.  My first paid copy (from the CD store) was VL 2.5.  SOHO hadn't happened yet.  The CD-ROM label is hand written  ;D  I actually started with VL earlier than that.   I think it was 1.5.  Anyway... I agree that VL has come a long way.

Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: gamfa on January 22, 2009, 03:40:28 pm
I had to look at the larger versions of the photos because 3.2 was the first VL I used and don't remember all those icons on the dekptop.  After viewing the enlargement I see that it's Tigger's first SOHO.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Pita on January 22, 2009, 05:56:18 pm
I can't find in the repos vburn 0.7.

As for icons on the desktop, it is a no go for me ever since. I have seen Windows guys
which had the screen so loaded with icons they could not find anymore trough.
Ridiculous.

I substitute the icons with either the xfce4-panel or at times the gnome-panel on my fluxbox desktop.
I like the xfce4-panel since it is very configurable. On the Menu of the panel I find applications
I have not configured in my fluxbox menu.

The opening and closing sounds do not disturb me. I think I heard them for another
desktop. For my taste I like the login and logout sounds better of gnome if I am right.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: redandwhitestripes on January 23, 2009, 01:17:35 am
Hi there, does VLL use LILO or GRUB?

If it is the former, I'd like to ask for some help:

 I'm new to Linux and I can just about edit a GRUB lst file but LILO seems harder. I have GRUB configured on my system already so once I install this badass looking VLL I will skip the LILO install. Could somebody give me an idea of what I should add to my GRUB lst to boot VLL?

Many thanks,
Greg
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: nightflier on January 23, 2009, 08:31:57 am
VL uses LILO. Besides MBR, you can install it to a floppy or to the boot sector of the partition where you install Vector. I'd say go for boot sector. I am not familiar with GRUB, but I'm sure someone else can steer you in the right direction.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: EyesOnly on January 23, 2009, 10:18:25 am
Hi RedAndWhiteStripes,

Perhaps I could help? I have a grub loader and this is how I have VL-5.9 Light added to mine. Of course, you would want to change the variables for how you have it set for your system, okie?

Code: [Select]
title VL-5.9 Light
kernel (hd0,3)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb4 ro nosplash vga=791
initrd (hd0,3)/boot/initrd

Now for "variables", I mean where your kernel (vmlinuz) and "initrd" is located on your hard drive, keeping in mind that the code in parenthesis is one step behind your actual drive number.

For example: See how mine reads (hd0,3)? The vmlinuz is actually located on hdb4 of my drive. Weird, I know! LOL! But that's the way grub works. (You'll notice the actual location further on in the line where it has the "root" parameter, see?)

I hope this has helped?

Welcome to VectorLinux and I hope you love it as much as we all do! It's wonderful!! :)

Cheers!

Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: redandwhitestripes on January 23, 2009, 05:23:24 pm
Thanks to the two previous posters for the reply. It seems I have managed to configure GRUB to do the job.
I like VLL, though I'm surprised it seems bigger than the standard edition :-) My old laptop's CD drive has died on me but I'll continue to use Unetbootin to play around on it.

(I think I used to have a life once, but then I got married :-) )
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: redandwhitestripes on February 04, 2009, 03:49:21 am
(I'll also post this on the 'office' thread)

Hi everyone,


I'm enjoying Vecor Linux Light but I am having a couple of small problems on the word

processing side of things:

1) Siag Office - great, lightweight office suite but Pathetic Writer sees very buggy. Font size

and type do not seem to be changeable, I am restricted to a single size font that has a vey

strange appearance. Spell checking is also difficult because the spell checker box loses

focus with each word it checks, so I have to click the top bar of the window each time.Can

anyone give any advice?


2) I tried to install Abiword but there is a 'dependency error'. Sorry I forget what the

missing package was, but does anyone have any knowledge of this problem?

Another question: (3) Why is the Xorg driver pack so large in VLL? I'm sure there is a reason

- I'm a Linux newbie so forgive my ignorance :-) - I just ask because I have heard of some
smaller distros using Xorg with a smaller iso size.


Finally, I want to mention that after installing the newest Alsa driver from Gslapt, my system

had no sound and Alsaconf did not detect my sound-card. I had to reinstall VLL!


Thanks,

Greg
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: nightflier on February 04, 2009, 05:06:11 am
Thank you for the feedback, redandwhitestripes. Do you by any chance know what kind of sound card is in your machine?

If you want to install Abiword with dependencies, enable the "gsb" repository in Gslapt, refresh and try again. It will pull in a large portion of Gnome in the process.

The "X11" optional package is much more than Xorg. Included are a large number of additional packages that use X, like the multimedia players and browser plugins. Light is smaller than Standard, but the aim is not to be tiny. To run fast and lean is the idea.


Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: caitlyn on February 04, 2009, 09:19:03 am
The problem you are experiencing with Pathetic Writer is because you do not have all the required fonts installed.  They are not provided by default in VL Light.  VL 6.0 Standard does provide them beginning with rc4.   To solve this go into gslapt, do a search on font, and basically install everything that claims to be part of X.org.  It's 21 packages in total and it takes up maybe 18MB of space.  Once that's done PW will function properly.

VL is the only distro I am aware of other than ones that try to be tiny that tried to strip down X.org.  PW is an old app that still requires X bitmapped fonts.

HTH,
Cait
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: redandwhitestripes on February 05, 2009, 01:57:13 am
Thank you to everyone for their help. I'm currently installing the fonts, I'll let you know how it goes. I'll also do a check on my sound card.

Like most Linux newcomers I have tried a whole bunch of distros and then come back to the few I like the most. Vector is certainly on that list, so I hope I'll be able to stick around and help others in future :-)
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: redandwhitestripes on February 05, 2009, 04:15:52 am
Ok the sound card is ali5451 :-)

I have installed a big bunch of fonts but PW is still the same. The SIAG website explains that I need to edit a config file but I don't really understand how to do it. Would I be better off installing VL 5.9? Disk space is not a problem (30g) but I am a minimalist by nature :-)
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: nightflier on February 05, 2009, 07:34:33 am
after installing the newest Alsa driver from Gslapt, my system had no sound and Alsaconf did not detect my sound-card. I had to reinstall VLL!

Just tried upgrading alsa-driver using gslapt and sure enough, that version is for the newer kernel (2.6.27.12). When Standard freezes the package selection I will upgrade Light to match it. Until then, things will remain "experimental".
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Vanger on February 06, 2009, 05:03:30 am
Hi, guys.
I'm interested in normal 3D on GMA X3100 (i965).
I can build Mesa 7.3 and dri2proto 1.99.3 with libdrm-2.4.4 that are required.

Also, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
Please, please, please, add "lba32" option in /etc/lilo.conf!
I'm freaking tired to add that to boot Windows each and every installation of VL since 5.8.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: nightflier on February 06, 2009, 06:16:38 am
Hi Vanger, good to see you again.  :)

I'm not very familiar with the inner workings of LILO, but it works for me almost all of the time. It sets up dual boot with W2K and I remember seeing something about it adding LBA32 when running. The place to look would be in "vliloconf". Do you have more details and/or suggestions?
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: nightflier on February 06, 2009, 06:24:07 am
I have installed a big bunch of fonts but PW is still the same. The SIAG website explains that I need to edit a config file but I don't really understand how to do it. Would I be better off installing VL 5.9?

I suspect 5.9 will have same problem. Final version of Light will be based on Standard final, hopefully this issue will be solved then.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Pita on February 06, 2009, 05:14:48 pm
Hi Vanger, good to see you again.  :)

I'm not very familiar with the inner workings of LILO, but it works for me almost all of the time. It sets up dual boot with W2K and I remember seeing something about it adding LBA32 when running. The place to look would be in "vliloconf". Do you have more details and/or suggestions?

lba32 is a global option of lilo:
Generate 32-bit Logical Block Addresses instead of sector/head/cylinder addresses, allowing booting from any partition on hard disks greater than 8.4 GB (i.e., remove the 1024-cylinder limit). Requires BIOS support for the EDD packet call interface.

So that should be put at the beginning of lilo.conf.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: root on February 07, 2009, 08:07:45 am
Hi guys , i see that you work hard on VL-Light6.x and im verry happy about it since i find the VL-Light5.9 , verry stable , fast and friendly and i'll definetly stay with the light version of the distro , but i'll wait till the main version is released and i'll be verry happy to see wbar and fluxbox as an option in there ,

Cheers , Junior .
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Apeman on March 02, 2009, 05:42:57 am
I wanted to install VL60-Light B2 on my ancient notebook using loadlin(Libretto doesn't have CDROM), loaldin.exe loads sata kernel, initrd.img to RAM, then it displays
Quote
Probing EDD (edd=off to disable)
and then it restarts the computer.

Here is a little workaround: I used ide kernel from VL59 Light to instal VL60 Light with it's sata kernel and it works.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: Apeman on March 02, 2009, 06:31:20 am
I'm glad there is so many lightweigth aplications VL60 Light B2.

Especially I like those lightweigth windows managers like IceWM and JWM.
But there must be a bug in VASM. It doesn't matter if I choose JWM or IceWM in VASM, startx always starts IceWM & pcmanfm.
I don't dare to try LXDE or Gnome with 32MB RAM.
Btw. will there be a KDE in VL 6.5 Light?  :o
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: nightflier on March 02, 2009, 09:26:56 am
Light will not come with the KDE desktop, but we're using a small piece of it (KDM) for a login manager. As of right now, the way to switch between IceWM and JWM is through KDM.

Will look into the VASM issue, thank you for the report.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: caitlyn on March 02, 2009, 07:54:59 pm
Why KDM over GDM?  There is no easy way to change language and locale if you eliminate GDM.  That, to me, would make Light a whole lot less useful.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: nightflier on March 02, 2009, 08:14:14 pm
GDM will remain in Light, along with KDM. If both are chosen during install, KDM takes precedence as they are installed in alphabetical order.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: caitlyn on March 02, 2009, 08:36:55 pm
OK, that makes sense to me.  You can always change between one and the other with vasm :)

Thanks,
Cait
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: overthere on March 06, 2009, 04:57:08 pm
Hi
Installed vl-light bata2 to the p3-600 with 256 on 10gig has ati agp card..install seemed slow but continued without issue and rebooted for a log in.
seems to be comming along..no dialer..maby I will be lucky with final

pathetic writer is well..if I have to install gnome for abiword and pathetic writer does not even come with fonts then I would prefer medit or geany or any tabed note pad and stardict available for download, for that matter if you ditch siag then add medit,stardict and gnu chess..I never use the spreadsheet anyway and spell checking is almost as limited as my proof reading..

.if you are stuck with pathetic writer thats fine  but at least add the fonts or make it available in the repository and use the space for a good notepad and dictionary..and who does not like chess and backgammon...xgammon is not even in the 5.9 repository..

the rest of the programs are all nice I love xine and the inerworkings of mplayerand use xmms every day as the alarm wakes me...well I added the alarm...not sure it is available either

I prefer no icons and with 5.9 light used fluxbox with wmdrawer..best of both worlds..all the icons you want total configability and some can be used for mount umounts...a mixer and clock and auto hide to photo frame bliss..Oh.. rightthen...

light looks good so far...the cd mount may be worth a icon..the menu item opens MC and does not want to umount from there...MC and pathetic writer..takes one back does it not..

ok I will shut up
cheers



Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: nightflier on March 06, 2009, 07:21:56 pm
B3 is scheduled for this weekend. It has Chestnut dialer and a desktop icon for CD mount. Stay tuned.  ;)
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: caitlyn on March 07, 2009, 08:19:44 am
@overthere:  All the fonts for Pathetic Writer are in the repo.  They are now included by default in Standard so if you have a machine with Standard installed (and I believe you do) you can copy the fonts from there.

PW is part of SIAG Office.  You can't just remove on part of the Office suite.  It's not packaged that way.
Title: Re: VectorLinux 6.0 Light B2 released.
Post by: overthere on March 07, 2009, 09:58:47 am
Thanks..I will download the new one as soon as I can..
 thanks caitlyn..I can download the fonts but was suggesting or wondering why they are not included..perhaps a decision has not been made to keep siag so the fonts are a download? curious then if they will be included at the final so the office package looks better default..also if it is possible to set the .pw extension to open when clicked in the file manager...I already set it but others may see it as flacky if the fonts are a download and it will open .pw in the default text editor...I know you all are working very hard and I am not a great help..it is just something..
cheers...nice to know I can copy..never thought.

cheers