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The nuts and bolts => Portable VL => Topic started by: Pita on March 07, 2009, 06:50:06 pm

Title: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: Pita on March 07, 2009, 06:50:06 pm
Would VL-6.0 work in a

HP Compaq 2133 Mini-Note PC

with a

VIA C7-M ULV processor (1.2 GHz, 128 KB L2 cache, 800 MHz FSB)

processor?
Title: Re: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: rbistolfi on March 07, 2009, 08:07:49 pm
It should work just fine, afaik we have two good reports in the forum. You would need the latest video driver to get the best resolution, which needs a newer Xorg-server, iirc. I think vec7 should be able to help you with that ;)
Title: Re: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: caitlyn on March 07, 2009, 08:24:04 pm
The new Xorg is in the testing repo.  He was also building the latest Via Chrome drivers but I'm not sure they are in the repo yet.  The OpenChrome driver in VL 6.0 is quite recent and should work quite well.  I had a Sylvania g Netbook which used that same processor and the VL 6 release candidates were quite fast on that system.  (I've since traded up to a Sylvania g Netbook Meso with an Intel Atom processor.)

Please note that the GUI installer isn't terribly netbook friendly.  It doesn't handle the widescreen/small screen resolutions properly.  You may have to do the text based installation.  You may also have to manually configure your X.org once install is done.  If that isn't too challenging for you then you should get a very good end result.
Title: Re: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: rbistolfi on March 07, 2009, 08:32:09 pm
Thanks for the clarifications Cait, the HP mini looks like a good deal after reading your post.
Title: Re: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: caitlyn on March 07, 2009, 08:39:32 pm
There are some newer (and somewhat more expensive) HP models that use the Intel Atom N270 CPU.  It is much faster than the Via C7M ULV even though the rated speed (1.6GHz vs. 1.2GHz) doesn't seem to be that big a difference.  The Atom chip is hyperthreaded and actually shows up as two processors in hardinfo  ;D  It's far and away the fastest 1.6GHz processor I've ever seen.

Otherwise, yeah, I like the HP MiniNote.  I also like the Dell Mini 9 and the Sylvania g Netbook Meso I ended up with.  They all seem to be excellent little machines and they all seem to run VL well.
Title: Re: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: Pita on March 07, 2009, 08:48:50 pm
Thanks for the information; then I will go ahead and install VL-6 and hope my good woman
who is the owner of the machine will not get too mad.;)
The installed SUSE gnome is 2 years old and we cannot update since no license number
was given and HP is giving us the run-around. i.e. the firefox version is 2.012. I installed opera.

Being GUI challenged from birth I surely will only use the text installer. I have no problems
of rumbling around xorg.conf.
Title: Re: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: caitlyn on March 07, 2009, 10:21:53 pm
Somehow I didn't think you'd have a problem, Pita  ;D  I've seen your posts in the forum for quite a while.  I get the idea that you know what you're doing.  Anyway, let us know how it all turns out.
Title: Re: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: never_stop_learning on March 08, 2009, 09:33:21 pm
I have Vector 6.0 installed on both the 2133 (Via C-7, 512mb RAM) and the 1000 (Intel Atom, 1gb RAM). The 2133 has 6.0 B2 with the proper drivers that Steve from SQI provided. The 1000 has 6.0 Standard Gold. Everything I have tried so far works on both machines (have not tried the webcam yet).

Been meaning to try a reinstall of 6.0 Standard Gold on the 2133 to see what works and what doesn't but work has been crazy (pretty much 7 days/week since January 2) and I have not had the spare time.

More to follow.....
Title: Re: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: Pita on March 12, 2009, 06:28:45 pm
Happy to report that I have successfully installed VL-6-STD on the HP 2133. On first boot Internet
connection needed a little tweeking, just to start wicd and the automatic configuration
got the screen resolution a bit wrong which was then easily adjusted with vasm.

All seems to be working fine and i must say my good women is excited. My worry to end in the dog
house was uncalled for.;D ;D

Two things:

There is no CD icon ont he screen when a CD is inserted and

the cursor controlled by the touchpad moves too fast, meaning it is too sensitive.
I have not yet found a way to make it slower.

Pointer requested.

Thanks & regards
Title: Re: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: rbistolfi on March 12, 2009, 06:41:09 pm
Nice to hear that Pita. If you are using the synaptics driver check this thread:

http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=6762.msg46323#msg46323

HTH
Title: Re: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: Pita on March 12, 2009, 10:52:33 pm
Nice to hear that Pita. If you are using the synaptics driver check this thread:

http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=6762.msg46323#msg46323

HTH

Thanks, that should do. I also found in my box  /usr/doc/gpm-1.20.1/README.synaptics
and no man page. That README file points to /etc/gpm-syn.conf to change parameters
for Synaptics TouchPads.

Further in the original installed distro in HP 2133, SUSE gnome, in their Yaest configure
there is one gui for a touchpad to change the settings with slides like the one
for the mouse in the xfce settings. May be that would be worth looking into for VL.


Title: Re: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: caitlyn on March 13, 2009, 12:55:11 pm
Believe it or not the mouse settings in Xfce also affect the touchpad :)  You can make changes in the settings and tweak your touchpad that way.  It works with the two Sylvania netbook models I've tried (current and previous) and my old Toshiba laptop.  It works well on my hardware.  YMMV, of course.
Title: Re: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: Pita on March 14, 2009, 02:11:30 am
Believe it or not the mouse settings in Xfce also affect the touchpad :)  You can make changes in the settings and tweak your touchpad that way.  It works with the two Sylvania netbook models I've tried (current and previous) and my old Toshiba laptop.  It works well on my hardware.  YMMV, of course.

Now I used both suggestions and the touchpad works just beautifully. I do not need any longer an external mouse with my big, old, shaky (what else, yes, ossified ) :D  hands.

When my good woman went to the computer school the instructor called the supervisor and they were flabbergasted when they saw VL-6 in action. Wow, how fast was one comment. I will give them first my old VL-5.9 now that their appetite has been wetted.

Everything works fine including xwcam, however, not the webcam in skype, the one in ../testing the test gives a blurry picture.
Title: Re: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: Pita on March 14, 2009, 09:36:03 pm
xmms does not produce any sound from an audio CD volume set at maximum, however, xine and VLC Media Player are playing fine.

Skype crashes when trying to initiate video during a call.
Title: Re: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: rbistolfi on March 15, 2009, 06:18:37 am
For the Audio CD I would try alsamixer first, I realized that some cards (or maybe the drivers) route the sound through different channels, for instance my PCM channel doesnt affect too much apps, but flash.
The webcam is maybe an issue with the module, see what module is it using with lsmod, and try to find out what webcam is it with lspci, lsusb (even when you didnt plugged it, sometimes they are wired to the usb system internally). Maybe we can find a better module for it.
Title: Re: VL on HP mini-note PC
Post by: Pita on March 16, 2009, 12:32:10 am
Thanks! That with xmms is weird. It plays w/o sound. alsamixer is all set properly. I have used xmms for years never seen this. All other players are working correctly. I substituted now xmms with alsaplayer it's easier for a newbie than vcl or gmplayer.

Now here are the requested listings from which one might possibly gain what is missing for skype not to crash when attempting to have video.

lsmod
snd_seq_dummy           3716  0
snd_seq_oss            31872  0
snd_seq_midi_event      6912  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                48368  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          7436  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            37408  0
snd_mixer_oss          15104  1 snd_pcm_oss
e_powersaver            5024  0
speedstep_lib           4740  0
freq_table              4352  1 e_powersaver
snd_hda_codec_analog    59136  1
rtc_cmos               10144  0
rtc_core               15132  1 rtc_cmos
rtc_lib                 3328  1 rtc_core
tg3                   119940  0
snd_hda_intel          25544  2
libphy                 16640  1 tg3
snd_hda_codec          60928  2 snd_hda_codec_analog,snd_hda_intel
uvcvideo               54408  0
snd_hwdep               7812  1 snd_hda_codec
btusb                  12312  0
compat_ioctl32          2048  1 uvcvideo
snd_pcm                67972  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
videodev               33792  1 uvcvideo
bluetooth              54756  1 btusb
v4l1_compat            14852  2 uvcvideo,videodev
snd_timer              19976  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    51492  16 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_codec_analog,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore               7008  1 snd
snd_page_alloc          8840  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
serio_raw               6020  0
i2c_viapro              8340  0
ieee80211_crypt_tkip     9728  0
i2c_core               21268  1 i2c_viapro
wl                   1068292  0
ieee80211_crypt         5380  2 ieee80211_crypt_tkip,wl
shpchp                 29716  0
pci_hotplug            27040  1 shpchp
via_agp                 8832  1
video                  17040  0
output                  3456  1 video
wmi                     6568  0
joydev                 10048  0
evdev                  10144  1

lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 Host Bridge
00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 Host Bridge
00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 Host Bridge
00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 Host Bridge
00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 Host Bridge
00:00.5 PIC: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 I/O APIC Interrupt Controller
00:00.6 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 Security Device
00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
00:02.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller (rev 80)
00:03.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller (rev 80)
00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 5372
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev b0)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev b0)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev b0)
00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 90)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237S PCI to ISA Bridge
00:11.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8251 Ultra VLINK Controller
00:13.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A Host Bridge
00:13.1 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A PCI to PCI Bridge
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Chrome9 HC IGP (rev 01)
02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4310 USB Controller (rev 01)
07:03.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 03)
80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller (rev 10)

lsusb
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1005:b113 Apacer Technology, Inc. Handy Steno 2.0/HT203
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04f2:b107 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Wireless (Bluetooth + WLAN) Interface [Integrated Module]
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub

Regards