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 41 
 on: September 04, 2014, 09:23:49 am 
Started by daftslacker - Last post by daftslacker
I'm actually using version 7 standard. When looking for documentation, I found some at ibiblio.org, but latest version there is 5.8. There are also docs at osuosl.org, and version there only goes up to 6, but the section on gslapt is the same.

I guess you use slapt instead of gslapt to use update option? Are there any plans to implement a feature where you have a software update app that you run that updates your system as well as any installed software? I don't know if any Linux distros have something like that, but I saw it in OS X. If I understand correctly, system components like libraries, widget toolkits, and stuff should never be upgraded individually. Instead reinstall the system when a new version is available. Is that right?

 42 
 on: September 04, 2014, 01:00:33 am 
Started by daftslacker - Last post by bigpaws
If you are using 5.8 I would strongly suggest upgrading to VL 7.0.

VL 5.8 was the last time that upgrade -all was an option. It did hose
some systems. Which is why there was a warning.
The reason for the hosed system is compatibility of system libraries
from old to new.

For the fix.

Backup your /home/<your username here> to somewhere.
NOTES: The <> is only a reference. You would backup /home/frank for example notice there are no <>
            If you are installing using the same version you can copy
           the /home/<your user name here>  to the new /home/<username here>
           which should give you the settings you changed for your
           user setup. If there are more users you need to backup them as well.

           If you are using a newer version you can still try the above if there are problems
          just remove the problem files.

Now reinstall so that everything is working.

You should be up and running.

The recommendation for security updates is to use update not upgrade.
The security updates are usually 2 versions behind the current version.
VL 5.8 is not currently getting security updates.

It is recommended to reinstall for new upgrades.
Generally if you backup your /home/<username here>
You can use that which will save the settings that you had previously.
Most of the time it works without any problems.
There is alot of useful information on this forum.

Any other questions please feel free to ask.

Bigpaws

 43 
 on: September 03, 2014, 10:23:30 pm 
Started by daftslacker - Last post by daftslacker
Actually, there is a warning, but I didn't read it first. The VL 5.8 documentation on gslapt says: "Please note that the gslapt command "Mark All Upgrades" followed by "Execute" will upgrade every installed package on your system for which there is a newer version at the repository. This is the equivalent of the slapt-get command slapt-get --upgrade. Either of these commands can be dangerous and may lead to a broken system - you have been warned!" Further information on the topic is given under section 6. Known Problems, System Upgrades.

If I remember correctly, upgrading all packages back when I was using Debian was a benign action.

It never gets to a command prompt and I'm not sure what I would do once I logged in. I imagine it would be easier and less time consuming to just wipe it and reinstall. But then I would have to reconfigure everything again. I guess the lesson here is don't update anything. But if something doesn't work right, and a newer version is available (because usually the first thing people say is ugrade to the latest version if your're using an older one), and that newer version might need a later version of a dependency, then one thing leads to another, and you might get a broken system for your trouble.

 44 
 on: September 03, 2014, 09:54:39 pm 
Started by daftslacker - Last post by sledgehammer
Can you get to the GUI by typing startx at the prompt?  You may have to log in from the command line first.

I remember when deleting something long ago, probably 5.8 ago, I hosed my system by deleting, I thought, one file but found instead that a whole bunch of things were deleted.  I haven't had that problem with more recent versions.


 45 
 on: September 03, 2014, 09:36:55 pm 
Started by daftslacker - Last post by daftslacker
I tried updating packages in gslapt. I was having an issue with the cairo dock (the dustbin app, specifically) and I thought updating it might solve the problem. I saw that several packages had later versions available, such as dbus, gtk+, etc.

I clicked on mark all available updates or something and it ticked the boxes on all the packages for which updates are available. Then I clicked on execute and it had a long list of packages to be updated, about a dozen to be added, and two to be removed.

It proceeded to download the packages and then on to installing them. About half way through installation, gslapt disappeared from the screen without warning. Then the cairo dock disappeared. I tried to access the menu button on the taskbar then it disappeared. I tried to right-click the desktop, then the desktop itself disappeared. All that was left was a gray screen and a mouse pointer. Only thing that would still work was the screensaver. I didn't know what else to do so I initiated a shutdown by pressing the power button.

When I turned the computer back on, it was listing a bunch of files being truncated. I don't remember the paths, but most ended in .so something I think, maybe library files? Then it was showing services starting, then the logo screen, then back to the text screen, and it stops right after trying to start xfce4. It says  "gdm-binary: no suitable security token can be found", then in the gui it shows a dialog box that says "The greeter application appears to be crashing. Attempting to use a different one." then in text mode it repeats "gdm-binary gtk-warning: ignoring the separator setting." Then goes to a screen that says "The display server has shut down about 6 times in the last 90 seconds. It is likely that something bad is going on. Waiting for 2 minutes before trying again on display :0."

So I guess I did something bad in gslapt. There perhaps should be a warning saying something like "don't try to upgrade all packages at once or the computer will choke to death". So how can I fix it? Reinstall the OS from the CD again? What would be the proper way to keep packages up to date without hosing the system?


 46 
 on: September 03, 2014, 07:17:59 am 
Started by overthere - Last post by overthere
Is there an application or environment for linux that allows desktop icons to be individually sized..generally you can increase the size of ALL to standard sizes like 16, 32, 64, 96 but can NOT set one at 64 two at 16 and another at 96. as desktop icons are popular it is curious they have little graphical functionality..or do they and I have not discovered it after all this time..any thoughts

 47 
 on: September 02, 2014, 08:33:47 pm 
Started by uelsk8s - Last post by solex
Retried VLocity 7.1 and selected the advanced option and the installer stopped when it determine that the USB stick was less the 4 GB.

 48 
 on: September 02, 2014, 08:25:36 pm 
Started by uelsk8s - Last post by solex
ok tried that but i get the following error in the shell when booting

Kernal Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown wn-block(0,0)

Thank you for your continued support.

Dan

 49 
 on: September 02, 2014, 06:25:37 pm 
Started by uelsk8s - Last post by roarde
Insert both the stick and the CD. Set the BIOS to boot from CD first, then check USB.

When the first screen comes up, try typing in:
linux root=/dev/sdb1 ro

If that doesn't get you a one-time boot to the stick, try
linux root=/dev/sda1 ro
(That one might start your HD if it has a linux on it, or maybe the stick.)

If you get a boot, the stick's own bootloader can be configured next. But I'd try fsck /dev/sdb1 first.

 50 
 on: September 02, 2014, 05:43:54 pm 
Started by uelsk8s - Last post by solex
Hi,

The stick is 4 GB, I tried to install VLocity 7.0 from CD and had the same problem all was going well, it got to what looked like the very last step and threw and error:

"[45] File or directory does not exist.  MdlBootMngr.?.0"



Dan

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