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Author Topic: VectorLinux7 RC-2.1 LIVE feedback and bug reports.  (Read 2858 times)
nightflier
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« on: August 24, 2011, 09:38:23 am »

Please share your testing experiences with us. Thank you for being part of the creative process.
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 07:42:09 pm »

I'll be reinstalling several times for test purposes, usually with Light Alpha, sometimes with RC-2.1. Anyone wanting something in particular checked during one of the installs feel free to drop me a line.

VIA users: This kernel recognizes and loads sata_via instead of hda-intel for hd access. If you're using something earlier than 6-SOHO (and perhaps even that, I don't know) and are troubled with slow disk access, you may want to consider early adoption of VL 7 even if you normally wait for final release. The performance difference on affected machines is beyond phenomenal.

As a bonus, more vid chips are correctly detected and set up by this Xorg, including some previously troublesome chrome9's.

My ALPS touchpad continues to be too touchy and tricky until reconfigured, but even this is better than previous fresh installs.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2011, 07:57:57 pm by roarde » Logged

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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2011, 11:56:28 am »

I've got quicknotes on a few issues I've found. These were all noticed in the on-disk installation, after using the livecd installer.

stretchedthin has confirmed #1, #2 and #5 for me.

1. su from any user to root requires no password

2. no /media directory installed. this prevents the desktop mounter icons from working. mkdir /media seems to fix it right up

3. don't need "upgrade system" and "install VL" icons on desktop of
installed system

4. sudo messages going into log/messages. should only go to log/secure

5. wicd daemon mysteriously failing to start. wicd client doesn't present
sudo prompt when trying to re-start daemon.

6. repo list missing http entries for some osuosl
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2011, 12:16:29 am »

Booted into HP-2133 netbook.

For a brief observation:

-- flash drive canot be mounted; unlike for a first time in this VL7 series in VL7-LIGHT.

-- Can't get abiword to spell check. And why is the theme of abiword so ugly?

-- Keyboard-Panel-Applet now working properly.

-- WICD connected this time to wlan0 w/o any problem.
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2011, 03:25:53 am »

Update 1 is available, it adds the /media directory and upgrades Firefox and Flashplayer.
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2011, 11:31:00 am »

VL-quikpicks (while I think it's a great idea) isn't working for me. When I select an application to install from the quikpicks menu, it says "No new applications selected. Would you like to open the package manager...". Running from a terminal, I get this output (running vl-QuikPickNetwork and selecting dropbox):

Code:
Failed to open package_data
package_data: No such file or directory
Perhaps you want to run --update?
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/amsn*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/checkgmail*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/claws-mail*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/deluge*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/dillo*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/dropbox*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/ekiga*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/emesene*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/filezilla*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/google-gadgets*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/gpodder*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/google-chrome*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/hotot*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/liferea*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/midori*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/skype-2*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/skypecall-recorder*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/thunderbird*: No such file or directory
dropbox (Share files and folders with anyone you choose.)
searching for dropbox
Failed to open package_data
package_data: No such file or directory
Perhaps you want to run --update?
inst=yes implied as No new application selected for install
rm: cannot remove `/tmp/slapt.txt': No such file or directory

There's also a "401 KB filesystem" listed in the file manager. After reading the README file in there, I think it's used in LiveCD creation. Perhaps the README could be more informative as to what exactly it's for?
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2011, 05:05:12 pm »

VL-quikpicks (while I think it's a great idea) isn't working for me. When I select an application to install from the quikpicks menu, it says "No new applications selected. Would you like to open the package manager...". Running from a terminal, I get this output (running vl-QuikPickNetwork and selecting dropbox):

Code:
Failed to open package_data
package_data: No such file or directory
Perhaps you want to run --update?
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/amsn*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/checkgmail*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/claws-mail*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/deluge*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/dillo*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/dropbox*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/ekiga*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/emesene*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/filezilla*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/google-gadgets*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/gpodder*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/google-chrome*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/hotot*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/liferea*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/midori*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/skype-2*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/skypecall-recorder*: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/thunderbird*: No such file or directory
dropbox (Share files and folders with anyone you choose.)
searching for dropbox
Failed to open package_data
package_data: No such file or directory
Perhaps you want to run --update?
inst=yes implied as No new application selected for install
rm: cannot remove `/tmp/slapt.txt': No such file or directory

There's also a "401 KB filesystem" listed in the file manager. After reading the README file in there, I think it's used in LiveCD creation. Perhaps the README could be more informative as to what exactly it's for?

At first glance my guess is that you are not connected to the internet.  Chick that the wicd daemon is running.  As posted earlier there is a problem with that starting dependably in live.

Even though I do think it is just an internet connection problem that is causing the error, I will add something to the script to warn the user that the internet is not up and running.

Daniel you will need to update gslapt via gslapt before you run again. Since, am assuming there was no internet connection the first time you ran vl-qwik-picks. Since it was written pretty much assuming that an internet connection would be present, it also assumes that the update was done after the repositories are enabled.

Thanks for catching this. Will update the script to catch this in the future.

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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2011, 06:51:12 pm »

...
Code:
Failed to open package_data
package_data: No such file or directory
Perhaps you want to run --update?
...

I think the issue here is that the system has not sync'd with the repos to create the /home/ftp/pub/veclinux/packages/package_data .

Does quickpicks run `slapt-get --update` at any time? If not, you should set it to do a "first-run" that runs `slapt-get --update`. I suppose you can detect "first-run" status based on wether or not the package_data file exists.

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if [ ! -r "/home/ftp/pub/veclinux/packages/package_data" ]; then
    slapt-get --update;
fi;
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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2011, 07:06:20 pm »

Booted Live into my desktop PC.

After the upgrade and /media present flash drive and HD can be mounted.  Grin

For Quick-Picks to work one has first to upgrade gslapt with testing, gsb may be others enabled.

Printer usb://Unknown detected and working, my old Epson, parallel to USB connection.  Cheesy

Still not able to make spell-check work in Abiword with other than US language.

Installed Cheese, recording has no sound. Should it have?
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2011, 12:41:32 am »

There is now a vl-qwik-picks in the repositories (extra branch), that should take care of the problem Daniel had.

For those of you who have had an issue you will need to enable extra, update gslapt and install vl-qwik-picks-0.80 via gslapt.

For those who have not had an issue, vl-qwikpicks will offer you the update itself the next time you use it after doing one of your regular gslapt updates.

You do not need to enable any repositories with qwik-picks.  Everything it offers is in extra and it can enable extra itself if it is not available by default or if the user has deactived it.  After enabling Extra it will run slapt-get update, to update the repositories.
The trouble occurs when there is no internet connection. It tries to do both above, succeeding in the enabling of extra but fails to update the repositories without a connection.  Then when it runs it is trying to draw info from a non-existent package_data file.

What's new.

qwik-picks now checks to see if there is an active internet connection. Provides a warning and exits if there is none.
(This alone should be enough to prevent the above situation.)
qwik-picks now checks to see if an update has not occured since original install.  If not it updates.
(This is a bit of insurance, in case extra gets enabled by default in the final release, that an update will still get done, when vlqp's, is started the first time.)
vlqp's does not try to update the repositories each time it starts, only if the repositories have never been updated or if extra needs to be enabled, otherwise I'd have to call it vl-slow-picks.  Grin


Thanks, I'll post it as a package so you can report there or here, I manage to catch most of the posts eventualy, no matter where they are.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2011, 03:13:49 am »

Wrote iso to a CD-RW and booted on a ThinkPad Z60m with Intel i915 using the default boot. Was able to mount a USB stick after applying the system upgrade which adds the media directory. Had Firefox running while the upgrade proceeded, then closed the browser and restarted the updated version. This appears to work obviously, but I found myself wondering whether there should be a prompt to the user to close the browser before updating the system?

Speaking of browsers they say Firefox 7 is going to be vastly new and improved - worth the wait?

Will try to run this on sundry other machines, and do an install over the next few days.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2011, 07:16:34 pm »

1. su from any user to root requires no password

When setting root password in installer or using `passwd` afterwards on the installed system, the /etc/shadow file receives the encrypted password. However, the /etc/passwd file does not receive the changes necessary to require usage of the password.

"root::0:0 ..." needs to become"root:x:0:0 ...". This can be accomplished with the following sed line:
Code:
sed -i 's/root::0/root:x:0/' /etc/passwd
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2011, 03:46:10 am »

Now booted on Dell Latitude D610 laptop, Pentium M 2 GHz with 1 G RAM and ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300. Default boot option OK.

At 'starting sysfs' during boot there seems to be something going on like 'SYSFS {} will be removed in a future udev version' reiterated say 10ish times. Maybe this could go away now? Could be slowing boot time if nothing else.

Using wicd to connect. Machine has intel 2915 = ipw2200. Wicd thinks both this and wired port are eth0 on first pass. Initially does nothing re wifi until told wifi is eth0 as per iwconfig output. In most cases at boot, ethernet iface is eth0 and wifi is eth1. This is a udev thing? On ThinkPad z60m wired and wifi were seen correctly as eth0 and eth1 I think.

Firefox seems crashy of late. Maybe 1G RAM and no swap live is no longer enough? Live session with Z60m was around 3 days, Ff closed down twice with 'out of memory' in dmesg. I didn't think I was taxing it unduly, maybe 10 tabs open, no YouTube or such. Where's my preinstalled FlashBlock by the way, a good default for efficient browsing.

Wicd seems to be showing a tendency to drop connections at intervals. Is this a feature? That's to say, internet seems to disconnect every few hours. Haven't got a handle on a precise period.

Righto. Think I'll go away and try and install to a usb stick. Later.
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2011, 05:16:44 am »

Hmmm. OK maybe it was a mistake to try and do an install to usb on a flash stick named by some maniac 'TSB USB DRV'. That's a deranged person associated with a large Japanese corporation starting with tosh. It may have seemed like a good idea in designed for windows world.

Nonetheless should the script be failing quite so badly? It was against the rules, but maybe the rules should be revised given the prevalence of such madness?

And surely gparted should just start? 'Inhibit the daemon' you say. It's a new one on me. Beam me up.

/dev/sdb1 on /media/TSB USB DRV type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=500,gid=500,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush)
vector:/~
vl:$ gparted
Inhibit all polling failed: Only uid 0 is authorized to inhibit the daemon

When I try to start gparted from the menu a window briefly appears, then vanishes. At the cli -->
Inhibit all polling failed: Only uid 0 is authorized to inhibit the daemon

Interesting as never seen hitherto, but unproductive. If gparted is not going to start for the user, it needs to prompt for a password as superuser?

I was looking to change the disk label as I think it's sometimes known, ie the ineffably stupid TSB USB DRV with gparted.
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2011, 05:46:24 am »

Afraid I don't seem to be able to drive the vl-usb-install script to a successful conclusion. What is my obvious mistake? Tried another fresh from the pesky plastic packaging flash drive from a different maker.

Interestingly gparted does run with the SanDisk stick attached.

I try source as /mnt/live, and dev/sdb1 as destination, 'There was an error mounting the device'. Have to admit I haven't read the fine tutorial which probably exists, but maybe this needs to be more foolproof?

[ 5798.375095] usb 1-2.2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
[ 5798.454338] usb 1-2.2: New USB device found, idVendor=0930, idProduct=1400
[ 5798.454343] usb 1-2.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[ 5798.454347] usb 1-2.2: Product: TOSHIBA USB DRV
[ 5798.454349] usb 1-2.2: Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
[ 5798.454352] usb 1-2.2: SerialNumber: blah
[ 5798.455551] scsi4 : usb-storage 1-2.2:1.0
[ 5799.494497] scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access     TOSHIBA  TOSHIBA USB DRV  PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
[ 5799.494798] sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[ 5800.231344] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] 7827456 512-byte logical blocks: (4.00 GB/3.73 GiB)
[ 5800.232714] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[ 5800.232718] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
[ 5800.232721] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 5800.236709] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 5800.261635]  sdb: sdb1
[ 5800.265585] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 5800.265590] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[ 8084.379909] usb 1-2.2: USB disconnect, address 3
[ 8107.221333] usb 1-2.2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[ 8107.296211] usb 1-2.2: New USB device found, idVendor=0781, idProduct=5567
[ 8107.296215] usb 1-2.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[ 8107.296219] usb 1-2.2: Product: Cruzer Blade
[ 8107.296222] usb 1-2.2: Manufacturer: SanDisk
[ 8107.296224] usb 1-2.2: SerialNumber: moreblah
[ 8107.297484] scsi5 : usb-storage 1-2.2:1.0
[ 8108.305747] scsi 5:0:0:0: Direct-Access     SanDisk  Cruzer Blade     1.18 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[ 8108.306060] sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[ 8108.316472] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] 7821312 512-byte logical blocks: (4.00 GB/3.72 GiB)
[ 8108.327088] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[ 8108.327092] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 43 00 00 00
[ 8108.327095] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 8108.339210] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 8108.358874]  sdb: sdb1
[ 8108.361956] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 8108.361961] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk


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