Thanks for the replies, VL classic has been working so well that I spend very little time on the forums. I have booted Vl 7 & VL7 light, but I really enjoy the Classic de. I have earlier versions of FF and Seamonky installed, but have become concerned about all of the browser updates. I can run Puppy on the data partition of the same hdd and have been able to update the browsers on Puppy.. I will have to study those responses to see If I can do that. I have been able to install Seamonkey in Mepis 8, but no previous Seamonkey was installed.and it has not been updated. Thanks for a great os, everything I have seen so far seems to work well.