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Author Topic: I liked the OS but..  (Read 2970 times)

CWM84

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I liked the OS but..
« on: June 11, 2012, 06:04:14 am »

Hello All,

I liked Vector Linux but...... I dont think I could do the kernal upgrades myself... Having to go to a website and search for the new kernal and download those 3 files plus drivers and then having to do the installation.. If it was simpler I would be ok....... I do like the os pretty fast on this old klunker..

Is there not an easier way to do it?

If so can you please explain in detail how? ( so I can save it for my records )

Would gslapt alert me and could do it though that instead of downloading files and getting a headache?

Thanks,
Christopher
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M0E-lnx

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Re: I liked the OS but..
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2012, 09:07:08 am »

Why do you feel you must upgrade your kernel as soon as a new one is released?  It is not hard at all to do in case you can justify upgrading kernels like a mad man

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Re: I liked the OS but..
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2012, 10:01:14 am »

When a new release comes out (IE, VL-8.0), I'm concerned about how an upgrade is made.  I've read elsewhere that the release cannot be upgraded (gslapt or otherwise), but instead a user has to reinstall the entire operating system, which seems quite backward.  So, the concern about kernel upgrades for me ties into this concern about system upgrades.
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M0E-lnx

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Re: I liked the OS but..
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2012, 10:08:27 am »

yeah, that's true.

You usually can't just roll out a anything similar to dist-upgrade in your brown|purple distro.

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Re: I liked the OS but..
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2012, 12:06:29 pm »

Compiling/using a new kernel isn't actually too difficult. Here is a guide for it: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/compiling-linux-kernel-26.html
Yes, the guide is for kernel 2.6.x, but the commands and stuff should be the same for later versions too. Just substitute version numbers as needed.

Also, reinstalling the OS to upgrade to the new version ensures that there won't be any conflicting config files and stuff that could keep things from working quite right. In-place upgrades can *sometimes* have associated problems.
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Re: I liked the OS but..
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2012, 07:11:44 pm »

Why do you feel you must upgrade your kernel as soon as a new one is released?  It is not hard at all to do in case you can justify upgrading kernels like a mad man

"Because it's there" ~ George Mallory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mallory
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Re: I liked the OS but..
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2012, 11:36:12 pm »

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When a new release comes out (IE, VL-8.0), I'm concerned about how an upgrade is made.

I have VL 7 (only) on my computer.  I have my hard drive partitioned into swap, home and root.  VL 7 is in root.  My data is in home.

If you have the same (see above), updating to a new VL, when it comes out, is not hard.  After backing up, just install the new VL in root and leave your home partition alone (do NOT format it).  During the install, import your settings.  That's it.  Most everything works fine, though a few adjustments are usually needed.

 
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Re: I liked the OS but..
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2012, 09:24:32 pm »

I don't see the reason to upgrade kernel if the current kernel working fine... :)
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Re: I liked the OS but..
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2012, 12:13:33 pm »

I don't see the reason to upgrade kernel if the current kernel working fine... :)

Performance, features, etc. :)
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Re: I liked the OS but..
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2012, 09:03:35 pm »

I don't see the reason to upgrade kernel if the current kernel working fine... :)

Performance, features, etc. :)
bug fixes, security fixes...

My question to the OP, If you can't download and install 3 pkgs as root from the command line, how are you ever going to get the new kernel to boot?
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Re: I liked the OS but..
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2012, 06:32:43 am »

I don't see the reason to upgrade kernel if the current kernel working fine... :)

Performance, features, etc. :)
bug fixes, security fixes...

My question to the OP, If you can't download and install 3 pkgs as root from the command line, how are you ever going to get the new kernel to boot?

Dang.. you nailed that one. ;)

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Re: I liked the OS but..
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2012, 10:43:48 am »

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When a new release comes out (IE, VL-8.0), I'm concerned about how an upgrade is made.

I have VL 7 (only) on my computer.  I have my hard drive partitioned into swap, home and root.  VL 7 is in root.  My data is in home.

If you have the same (see above), updating to a new VL, when it comes out, is not hard.  After backing up, just install the new VL in root and leave your home partition alone (do NOT format it).  During the install, import your settings.  That's it.  Most everything works fine, though a few adjustments are usually needed.
 

Thanks for that suggestion.  I recently reinstalled VL-7 and set it up as you suggested, with a separate /home partition.  It makes me feel more secure knowing that this is now separate and not mixed in with everything else, thus making it easier to preserve the data that's most important.  So now hopefully as new versions come out I'll be able to upgrade via a new install while still preserving my files.
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Re: I liked the OS but..
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2012, 07:01:50 pm »

I think you guys ran off the OP... or maybe he just said all he had to say already ;)

But in all seriousness, I think that a more streamlined method to upgrade kernels is needed for us. Perhaps a VASM widget would be the solution here?
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Re: I liked the OS but..
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2012, 04:53:39 am »

Perhaps a VASM widget would be the solution here?

I second that.
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Re: I liked the OS but..
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2012, 04:44:56 am »

I'll third that.

Yep, I'm one who don't use the terminal much. I believe the only thing you should bash in Linux is the terminal itself.  I made a funny :-0

Seriously. I want to use Vector to run a MUD (text based online game) from a virtual machine ( VirtualBox) under Windows 7 64bit for hosting onto the internet.  I need the fastest Linux that's rather full featured I can get. (hoping to use Vector Lite 7.0) If upgrading the kernel will help me eek out a lil more performance especially in this situation, then that's what I'll need to do. For me, any gain I can get will make a critical difference I believe. The easier it is to upgrade the kernel, the better.

I don't know though. The system might run just as fast without upgrading the kernel - just sayin.
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