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Author Topic: Digital Video DV over firewire no raw1394 VL 7  (Read 3401 times)
PastorJim
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« on: September 16, 2012, 02:16:29 pm »

I just installed VL 7 after getting completely frustrated with getting firewire to work on Ubuntu 12.04. I had it working on a previous version, but upgraded and it got broke. I may simply have to go back to an older version of Ubuntu, but I like VL. I installed VL 7, and while it recognizes the Firewire card, it does not register the DV camera is connected to it. I can't even manually get the raw1394 modules to load using modprobe. What gives? Any suggestions?

lspci gives

00:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB12LV23 IEEE-1394 Controller

So the card is there.

« Last Edit: September 19, 2012, 04:55:21 pm by PastorJim » Logged
PastorJim
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2012, 06:27:35 am »

20 views, no answers. I was hoping this would be an easy fix.
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sledgehammer
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2012, 08:29:09 am »

Sorry old boy, but I suspect a lot of us don't know much about firewire.  I know from my camera, I just plug it in to the USB port and download to my hard drive.  

I guess, from your inquiry, that you can't do this with some cameras or that there is some other benefit from firewire.  Perhaps "raw1394" is not alerting those who use firewire?  If so, you can modify the header to include "firewire."  That might get a faster response.

John

PS.  My camera doesn't do videos, or if it does, I don't know how to do them.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2012, 08:31:59 am by sledgehammer » Logged

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bigpaws
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2012, 10:16:41 am »

I have not worked with firewire, but I'll give it a shot.

The firewire is working if there is a entry in lspci

That is the first step in troubleshooting sometimes the hardest.

The second step is finding the mount point it uses.

So here is a way to find it.

First disconnect the camera.

Now in a terminal as root use this command

watch "dmesg | tail -20"

That should produce some output when you plug in the
camera.

If there is output please post it here, if not you can try this command
as root:

tail -f /var/log/messages

Try plugging the camera in again and see what output there is and post it here.

After the output shows the camera, then the next step is to get a program to
work with the camera.

Also please post the name,make,model and version number.

Bigpaws
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Chris530
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2012, 06:24:35 pm »

Perhaps you could use Gslapt to install Kino then use it and it may give you more info from the terminal.

"kino (Video editor)
 
 Kino is a non-linear DV editor for GNU/Linux. It features excellent
 integration with IEEE 1394 for capture, VTR control, and recording back to
 the camera. It captures video to disk in raw DV or AVI format in both type-1
 DV and type-2 DV (separate audio stream) encodings. Kino does not support other
 video file formats or encodings. However, it can import other formats by
 transcoding them using FFmpeg and optionally MEncoder.
 
 License: GNU GPL
 Website: http://www.kinodv.org
 Authors: Dan Dennedy <dan@dennedy.org> and many others (see site)"
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PastorJim
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2012, 04:54:13 pm »

I have not worked with firewire, but I'll give it a shot.

The firewire is working if there is a entry in lspci

That is the first step in troubleshooting sometimes the hardest.

lspci | grep FireWire gives this:

00:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB12LV23 IEEE-1394 Controller

 I know the card and cable are working since they were working with Ubuntu, but I find it a little slow on my machine.

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The second step is finding the mount point it uses.

So here is a way to find it.

First disconnect the camera.

Now in a terminal as root use this command

watch "dmesg | tail -20"

That should produce some output when you plug in the
camera.

If there is output please post it here, if not you can try this command
as root:

tail -f /var/log/messages

Try plugging the camera in again and see what output there is and post it here.


I get nothing in dmesg at all. It is like udev is not even recognizing that a firewire device is plugged in. That is fundamentally my problem. Even with the lastest Ubuntu it will recognize the camera was plugged in, but not pass the parameters correctly and will not work with kino or dvgrab. With VL 7.0 I get nothing at all no matter which is the 3 firewire ports the camera is plugged into. As I said, I know it works, but would like it to work with VL 7.

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Also please post the name,make,model and version number.
Bigpaws

This is with the Texas Instruments FireWire card as seen in the lspci output, Sony TRV-740 (I think) all on Vector Linux 7.0 Standard.

To add to this, manually trying to install raw1394 with modprobe raw1394 give:

FATAL: Module raw1394 not found.

That makes me think I may need to do something more to get this to work.

Thanks for trying to help.

Jim
« Last Edit: September 19, 2012, 04:57:42 pm by PastorJim » Logged
PastorJim
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2012, 01:26:16 pm »

Went back to VL 5.9 Standard Gold, and it detects the camera just fine. I have to get the wireless up before I can see if it captures since kino and dvgrab are not part of the default installation. Not sure why the wireless didn't autoconfig, as it worked fine in 7.0. It has been a long time since I used 5.9 so maybe it doesn't autoconfig the wireless card I have.
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PastorJim
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2012, 04:08:32 pm »

Gave up on VL 7 (and 5.9 for that matter) went to 6.0 and everything works fine. I needed to compile up dvgrab and kino, and I will compile up cinelerra as well to see if I like it. So far so good. It looks like the 1394 firewire stuff is not in the VL 7 at all.
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