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Author Topic: Strange gnome dependencies in upgrades list  (Read 1276 times)
GJones
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« on: May 05, 2013, 10:42:48 am »

So on running slapt-get --upgrade, I see this:

Code:
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  samba fakeroot mozilla-nss pyorbit libcroco gnome-menus gnome-desktop
  libgweather gnome-panel alacarte geoclue json-c pulseaudio vcdimager

So several Gnome deps that I don't need, and Pulseaudio, which I don't want.

What package might be pulling this in?

Edit: FWIW though I still can't get the upgrade process to work because Samba is missing, so this is more a curiosity than anything else.
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retired1af
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2013, 01:51:50 pm »

Do not do a "full" upgrade as you'll run into massive breakage. Update only those packages you need to upgrade.
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roarde
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2013, 01:57:11 pm »

retired1af +1

and while slapt-get is a better idea generally, start gslapt, disable testing and say yes to update repos, then select Samba 3.5.8 for installation. As mentioned in your other post, 3.5.10 is indeed MIA.
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Robert
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GJones
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2013, 02:29:55 pm »

Full upgrades are frequently broken in the stable version?

I see... In that case, sorry to say, Vector is not the distro for me.

Thank you very much for the advice, and good day.
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retired1af
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2013, 02:11:38 am »

Full upgrades are frequently broken in the stable version?

I see... In that case, sorry to say, Vector is not the distro for me.

Thank you very much for the advice, and good day.

You should never, ever do a mass update with ANY distribution. Even the "big boys" are prone to major breakage when you do this. You should update only those packages that you absolutely need to update. Having the latest, bleeding edge release is not required.
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GJones
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2013, 05:38:16 am »

In my experience that is no longer the case for most distributions. Certainly Debian Stable and enterprise distributions can be fully upgraded without problems. Even Ubuntu does full upgrades by default when software is out of date, and I've never seen that break anything. For that matter, I've never seen a full upgrade (i.e. slackpkg upgrade-all) break anything on Slackware.

(And just as well too, given the enormous number of vulnerabilities that can build up on a typical Linux desktop install.)

The only distro I know of (other than Vector) that advises against full upgrades most of the time is aptosid, and that's because it's based on Debian Sid, so the repos can be full of broken stuff at any given time.

I'll grant you that avoiding full upgrades is a good way to have a stable system, but it's not a good way to have a secure system IMO. Whether one finds it suitable basically depends on whether one values stability or security more; and when push comes to shove, I value security more.
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Chris530
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2013, 07:22:34 pm »

firefox "upgrade" remind anyone of anything? <insert smart assed comment here>
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