this sucks—but there may be a way out

[Lyn]

Taken, was my mistake. I meet some Welsh users at Chubut, the south of Argentina (Yr Ariannin  ). My wife is borned there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_settlement_in_Argentina
I didnt note your flag. I put that example just because I used to see a girl from norway, and is a familiar theme for me (I was trying to impress her talking about her culture, didnt work).
BTW I really can understand your idea about religion. And even Russells idea. Many mystakes happened in the name of religion. I gess I just want to make a point about a philosophical aproach to the religion topic, and some speechs abd traditions have a value, a great  value.
Lyn, my apollogies again, please note the edit over the original post.

Don't worry no offense taken :-) fascinating that your wife was from our former colony :-)

Its a very interesting subject, religion. 

[nubcnubdo]

Know thyself.

The Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) is a non-judgmental psychological profile commonly used in many settings, including corporate. You will be surprised at the uncanny accuracy of this system, which evaluates personal preferences. Take the test and see which of the 16 types apply to you.

A type is indicated by four letters, and for each of the four letters there are two possibilities representing a pair of opposites, making a total of 16 types:

Introvert - Extrovert
Sensing - iNtuition
Feeling - Thinking
Perception - Judgment

Types:

idealist
ENFP  champion
INFP  healer
ENFJ  teacher
INFJ  counselor

rational
ENTP  inventor
INTP  architect
ENTJ  fieldmarshal
INTJ  mastermind

guardian
ESTJ  supervisor
ISTJ  inspector
ESFJ  provider
ISFJ  protector

artisan
ESTP  promoter
ISTP  crafter
ESFP  performer
ISFP  composer

Moreover, two of the four letters of a type indicate temperament, which is a broader class of generalization. It follows that there are 4 temperaments:

NF idealist
NT rational
SJ guardian
SP artisan

IMHO the reason this system works is that it's based on empirical observation, rather than some preconceived ideology.

resources:
http://www.typelogic.com/
http://www.keirsey.com/

[Triarius Fidelis]

Two tests both said INTJ for me. Your turn...

[nubcnubdo]

INTJ. I must admit that I'm flattered by the description of my type, which makes me wonder. What really interests me is to understand other people by this mode of analysis. It's a hobby called "typewatching".

I think "mastermind" is a bit heavy-handed (loaded) as a label. At one time, the INTJ type was called "scientist".

INTJs have an unhappy tendency to escalate their standards of what they can accept as a good performance.

[rbistolfi]

Just one taken, a quick from google test, I missunderstand a few questions, but the result is ENFJ...mmmmm,could be...

Did anotherone, ENTP.

BTW, what means "mastermind", I cant undestand it clearly, sounds like "Luke Skywalker" to me, or Gandalf... I want to be INTJ!!!!!!!!

[nubcnubdo]

Try Keirsey's test. It's an adaptation of MBTI.

http://www.keirsey.com/

mastermind: def. a person who supplies the directing or creative intelligence for a project
                    def. a person who originates or is primarily responsible for the execution of a particular idea, project, or the
                            like. 

There are selective factors in this forum. It is probably heavily populated with INTJs and INTPs, NTs mostly. In a normal population, you see only 3 or 4 percent INTx, but here it's probably more like 30 or 40 percent.

[Triarius Fidelis]

BTW, what means "mastermind", I cant undestand it clearly, sounds like "Luke Skywalker" to me, or Gandalf... I want to be INTJ!!!!!!!!

Yes indeed...or as one would say in English: 'Magic Elf'...

[rbistolfi]

Try Keirsey's test. It's an adaptation of MBTI.

http://www.keirsey.com/

You probably want to be ENTJ, not INTJ.

mastermind: def. a person who supplies the directing or creative intelligence for a project
                    def. a person who originates or is primarily responsible for the execution of a particular idea, project, or the
                            like. 

There are selective factors in this forum. It is probably heavily populated with INTJs and INTPs, NTs mostly. In a normal population, you see only 3 or 4 percent INTx, but here it's probably more like 30 or 40 percent.

Yeah, "fieldmarshal" sound nice too
I did somes in spanish, with some variants, all NTs.

Yes indeed...or as one would say in English: 'Magic Elf'...

"Magic Elf" is probably, the nicest way

[nubcnubdo]

rbistolfi:

Here's the test in Spanish
http://keirsey.com/span2.html

[Joe1962]

Heh... took "a type test for programmers" at http://www.eggheadcafe.com/articles/mb/default.asp. Guess I'm INTJ as well...

[GrannyGeek]

Two tests said I'm an ISTJ.
--GrannyGeek

[nubcnubdo]

Check out this description, Granny:
http://www.personalitypage.com/ISTJ.html

[GrannyGeek]

A lot of that describes me well, but some of it was so off as to be laughable. For example:
"Their homes are likely to be tastefully furnished and immaculately maintained. They are acutely aware of their senses, and want to be in surroundings which fit their need for structure, order, and beauty."

Nobody would say our home is tastefully furnished, and it's usually a mess. Cleaning house is not a way I like to spend my time. That's just one example.
--GrannyGeek

[Triarius Fidelis]

Give the test one thing­­-it's a hell of a lot more accurate than the average horoscope.

[That's what an INTJ would say. See? Ed.]

[nubcnubdo]

TJs - The Thinking-Judging Mode Types
http://www.gesher.org/Myers-Briggs/Profiles--TJ.HTM