Jerry, I apologies too if something I said offends you. I understand your frustration, but we are all trying to help you. All the hard work is done on the server side, and some times from the client side. This is the second case. The server take a request and send a flash object to your browser, with some javascript code too. The javascript checks if you have the plugin installed, and if it is, it sends the flash object to the flash plugin. Something is failing in that trip. We need to know exactly where in all that points the problem is. And we go to the more easy to check to the more difficult. If the lamp of your living room is not working, you don't buy a new house, you check if that filament is not broken

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We know now an upgrade of the plugin doesnt solve your problem, so as I said, we are looking for another solution

could be some combination between https and flash, we'll see.
My best bet now: for some reason (could be vl´s fault

) Mozilla is not downloading and installing the certificate properly. This is the process: an applet is installed in the browser to use cryptographic functions and build a shared key used to validate a session in both sides, the client and the server side. We need to be sure tls/ssl is enabled and check our security settings to ensure the applet installation is possible. Could anybody check this? I am not at my vl box, sorry

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