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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2007, 06:24:45 am »

I was thinking a gambas GUI using gb.gui so that it looks nice in GTK and QT.
not sure what all we need in the background... but it should be able to do the same things k3b does
burn cd and dvd images
burn data discs, audio and video
maybe (lots of work alert) process audio and video (convert mp3 -> wav for cd's)
I'm sure we can probabbly use lots of existing libraries for it... just need to make the right calls

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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2007, 06:35:03 am »

I was thinking a gambas GUI using gb.gui so that it looks nice in GTK and QT.
not sure what all we need in the background... but it should be able to do the same things k3b does
burn cd and dvd images
burn data discs, audio and video
maybe (lots of work alert) process audio and video (convert mp3 -> wav for cd's)

Ah, interesting, but how would you estimate the size of the uncompressed audio?

If you can make a front-end and show me screencaps, I can deduce a spec from it and write the back-end. Deal?
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2007, 10:53:10 am »

Ah, interesting, but how would you estimate the size of the uncompressed audio?
No estimation involved, 74 mins = 650 MB. Actually, that's an aproximation, but the point is that it is a constant ratio once uncompressed. You need to take into account the silence between tracks though, unless using crossfade.
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2007, 01:14:12 pm »

So that can be easily done by looking at each file's size attributes...
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2007, 01:31:40 pm »

So that can be easily done by looking at each file's size attributes...


Yep. An mp3 file *should* have a predictable compression ratio at a given bit-rate. Higher bit rates mean the file will be larger.

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In digital multimedia, bit rate often refers to the number of bits used per unit of time to represent a continuous medium such as audio or video after source coding (data compression). The size of a multimedia file in byte is the product of the bit rate (in bit/s) and the length of the recording (in seconds), times eight. In case of streaming multimedia, this bit rate measure is the goodput that is required to avoid interrupts.
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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2007, 01:40:07 pm »

Forget about compressed file size and bitrate, etc... Just find out the sound length in seconds.
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2007, 02:00:51 pm »

Forget about compressed file size and bitrate, etc... Just find out the sound length in seconds.

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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2007, 02:06:36 pm »

Forget about compressed file size and bitrate, etc... Just find out the sound length in seconds.

Heh...the simplest solution is always the best  Lips sealed

That could be right... IIRC, in .wav format 1sec of audio is around 10mb or something like that
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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2007, 02:15:32 pm »

IIRC, in .wav format 1sec of audio is around 10mb or something like that
Exactly. It's a constant, just have to google it up or something... Wink

Think about VBR files... that would be a sort of nightmare to calculate otherwise... Grin
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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2007, 06:21:32 pm »

IIRC, in .wav format 1sec of audio is around 10mb or something like that
Exactly. It's a constant, just have to google it up or something... Wink

Even for different bit rates?

Edit: BTW, until I have a spec, I won't be able to do anything. I don't even know where to start.
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« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2007, 07:05:35 pm »

Even for different bit rates?
There are no different bitrates, audioCD is standard 44.1 KHz stereo.
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« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2007, 05:27:59 pm »

Hanumizzle,

If you are looking for some scripting to do, could you help me with this? I had posted this a while back but nobody replied. It would be a great help with the MMBD development.

http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4667.0

Thanks!
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« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2007, 06:53:25 pm »

Even for different bit rates?
There are no different bitrates, audioCD is standard 44.1 KHz stereo.
Well, there is one part you're forgetting here.  There's two things that determine the size of one channel of uncompressed audio: the sample rate and the sample size, in bits.

The full equation is like this: Sample rate * sample size * number of channels = bits per second.
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« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2007, 08:04:47 pm »

I know, but the only need for audio conversions in a burner app is from any compressed format to Red Book audio CD specs. Well, actually there are couple of other standards, but I don't think they are relevant, since I don't suppose they will play on normal equipment. Anyway, I finally took the time to look up the specs:

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2-channel signed 16-bit PCM sampled at 44 100 Hz.
Bit rate = 44,100 samples/sec × 16 bit/sample × 2 channels = 1,378.125 kbit/s (10.09 MByte per minute)

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_(audio_CD_standard)

If you want to know about the other standards: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_CD
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