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Triarius Fidelis
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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2007, 11:18:25 am »

I am going to add this as a side note. Would moving to debian sid as a base vs slackware help in terms of getting more developers?

Anecdote:

Yesterday, we got in a minor car crash. We happened to be near a gas station at the time, so we pulled in there and my dad recommended that my sister and I should go into the convenience store and get something to settle our nerves. I looked around for a while and even considered buying paper but eventually realized I wasn't really shaken by the accident and didn't want anything.

As I've learned: "If it ain't broke ..."

Maybe the demand and motivation for the GUI installer was not so great to complete it. The stable and fast text installer is a distinguishing feature of both Slack and Vector, IMO. (Although I'm still slightly disappointed that my corrections for vinstall were not merged in.  Embarrassed)
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nubcnubdo
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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2007, 11:19:14 am »

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a vector based off ubuntu or debian
I would miss being root  Wink

and, if VL 5.9 Std needs a little upgrade/tweak to say, VL 5.9.1 Std, let's slap 6.0 on it instead, and be done with it.
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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2007, 11:26:29 am »

Would moving to debian sid as a base vs slackware help in terms of getting more developers?
I believe this quote to be simply "trolling and flamebait" Grin
....it worked! Wink

good one, vec! Cheesy
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tomh38
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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2007, 11:28:31 am »

Just in case I didn't make my feelings clear about a move to a debian base:

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« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2007, 12:50:55 pm »

First let me say that I truly apologize if I alarmed or hurt anyones feelings with my playful post. That certainly was not my intention but I have been known to stick my foot in my mouth on more than one occasion............. Roll Eyes
We will certainly not be making a move to debian in my lifetime as I have been in that jungle before and it was not a pretty sight. However, the post did reveal that we do have a very dedicated group of slackers here all on the same train and to that I'm grateful. I would like some idea's as to how to better bring our superior product to the masses tho. It seems as of late that we and slackware for that matter are getting little coverage from the linux press. To that end another wild thought how about we rename VectorLinux to Vecubuntu and simply bill it out as the first ubuntu based on slackware.................lol. Again, to my loyal band of developers my apologies. This was only meant to get a little discussion going nothing I would ever seriously consider.

Cheers,
Vec
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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2007, 12:57:52 pm »

If I knew ya better and thought I could pull it off, I'd call ya a *bleep*  Cheesy
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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2007, 01:07:37 pm »

ROFL, Vec

You really had me going  ...

You're right though in saying that Slackware and Slack-based distributions don't get enough attention.  In fact, as far as Linux goes it seems like all I ever hear about these days is Ubuntu.  I've probably said this before, but I know Windows users who haven't heard of Linux but who've heard of Ubuntu.  Sh*t floats.

I wish I knew how to get the word out.  Just about everybody I know who owns a computer either has VL on their machine or is tired of hearing me talk about how great it is.

If I think of anything I'll say so.  Until then, thanks for all the hard work and hang in there.

Tom
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Dweeberkitty
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« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2007, 01:16:23 pm »

I would like some idea's as to how to better bring our superior product to the masses tho. It seems as of late that we and slackware for that matter are getting little coverage from the linux press.

1. We need a better website. The website is the first and many times the only thing that people come in contact with when looking for a distrobution. The website has to look polished, professional and give the appearance that we know what we are doing. As it is, the current website looks like a home-made job and most certainly turns people off.

2. What is the one thing, or set of things, that would compel a Linux user to switch from another distro to Vector? We should do some looking around, ask people and find out what the needs or wants are and then work to fill them.

3. Promote products such as the MMBD that are unique to VL. Show that they fill a real need and that they work. Hehe, of course I WOULD say that. BTW, I'm going to make a web page for it. Hopefully it'll bring some people to VL.

The answer to getting a better VL for the masses is by getting more users. More users bring more developers and more popularity. More popularity in turn brings more users which brings more developers which possibly means a better VL for the masses might be developed. That's the way I look at it. We need to advertise, promote and look for opportunities to gain a larger following of users.

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tomh38
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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2007, 01:22:34 pm »

Hey ...

Maybe a name change would help!

Some possibilities:

01) Pornix
02) Viagrix
03) Cialix
04) Vectintosh
05) iVector
06) Tickle Me Vector
07) Vistix
08) Googlix
09) McDonlix
10) Vectoria's Secret
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« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2007, 01:25:47 pm »

yes ,the website. I still have no idea if there is any (fat?) chance any of the mock-ups i did will be considered as an option. Another thing is that i need somebody who is skilled in web programming and can put functionality on the beautiful crayon drawing.The graphics are really no sweat for me,but for sure people will like this or that- some will want a change here,others will not- so different tastes influence a struggle of ideas.

What i would love to see changed- colors,logo,navigation,organisation,functionality- almost everything. I'm going to produce more graphics if i have the hope for that change.

On the meantime,i can't promise you that,but a certain user of this board ( "Telemaniaka") has the skill to put a good code (as he already did at http://www.garbagewars.com ) which is using the same forum system and has integrations with the forum (try to sign up and see for yourselves)... i will try to talk him into helping me.

you can also change not the name,but vector's logo (the planet). On that note,would it be bold to start a thread with ideas and mockups? There are not many artists at our comunity,and the art forum is kind of silent. Sad
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« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2007, 03:15:57 pm »

Can I just say, I'm glad we are waiting for KDE4 before SOHO 5.9 ~ makes sense to me.

On another point, do we really need a graphical installer? I would say yes. OK, I grew up installing OS's where you did the install then worried about the GUI, or had Windows NT where pretty much the same thing happened, but most younger users, perhaps happy with most aspects of XP, may never have seen one, and looking at Vectors' install screen shots may have them move on and not get any further, which would be a shame because as a distro it rocks. OK, eventually, they will need to get down and dirty with a terminal or text based menu system, but lets hook them first!  Wink
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bigpaws
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« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2007, 09:21:40 pm »

Look a Ubuntu Gutsy apparently there are some
problems with that version. At least that is what I
have read.

Becoming Ubuntu is not possible not close to as much
man power of Ubuntu.

Stay steady and grow. Continue with small hardware
requirements and also mention that most of the old
linux books that you can get a discount store will
work.

Vector Linux does not mean expensive to own or
run.

One thing that you can say about Slackware is that it
runs and runs well. Stay on that track. Introducing new
things without taking time to test will leave a bad taste
for a new user.

Bigpaws
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nubcnubdo
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« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2007, 10:13:06 pm »

If we want Slackware devs, does it not make sense that we (some of us representing VL) should be hanging out where Slackware enthusiasts work and play. VectorLinux needs an inviting presence on Slackware-related sites. That would include Zenwalk, SLAX, Absolute, Ultimate, NimbleX, AliXe, and Wolvix as well. Some of those endeavors strike me as self-educational, and candidate for absorption into a larger organization. Wolvix, for instance: What does Wolvix do that VL doesnt do? It seems redundant to me. If we were open to a VectorLinux Lite edition, we could absorb Wolvix and maybe
NimbleX.

Question: Could VL tolerate a name change in order to accommodate and incorporate other Slack distros?

The mountain comes to Mohammed
Start an organization: Association of Slackware-based Distributions. Set up a website and formally invite the various leaders to join and make a presence. From there, cultivate a pool of Slackware devs on call/for hire. When communities and leaders see the similarities of the various Slackware distros, the strength of our collective eforts, they may be more inclined to unite in a common cause.

We should pick and choose to find a great mini-PC, make an alliance with the manufacturer, bend over backwards to get VL installed on it and associated with it. Then promote this little box like PCLOS fanboys on crack. I mean, that's what Zonbu Zonbox is for Gentoo, Koolu for Ubuntu.
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« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2007, 11:12:28 pm »

If you take a look at what folks say about us (Vector) when they decide to install it...should tell you the whole story. I heard a guy say by accident the funniest thing," patience is a virgin"...a slip not really meant. I think Vec was just kidding around. No, make that, I am sure he was just kidding around. Gui or 64 who knows what should be next?
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« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2007, 04:24:39 am »

Happy X-Mas and so on  Cool,
just my point to this topic:

Why change the base of Vector? It is working and a lot of work would go down the gutter when replacing the fundament.
And for what reason  Huh ? Than Vector is competiting with all the *buntus (Vebuntu, the new distro  Grin )
Of course have the people making their living from Vector all the right to make such strategic decisions, but I think this is the wrong approach (hell, I changed to Vector when Mandrake lost itself to be Mandriva  Angry and I had spent some real money to have always the latest version).
It is better to be the leader of the pack in Slackware Country than running with the crowd in Debian Space.
If it goes to produce more revenues or attraction the proposal to make more co-operation or take-overs with other Slack-Distros stands for a better strategy.
Let Vector become the most proffesional SOHO and still "Light and Easy" Slack-offspring.
Tip: foccus on compability with Laptop and Notebooks, especially Wireless should go out of the box.
And according to my understanding the installer is "graphically" enough, you can actually use the mouse. So just change the IBM-style blue background and menu borders to something more charming  Kiss and you have won a good deal of attractiveness. The functionallity is already top-notch .
Happy Gnu Year,
Carsten
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