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How would you define a lighter version of VL?

simply parr it down
further optimize it for slow systems
we dont need no VL-light.

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M0E-lnx

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Re: VL-Light?
« Reply #105 on: January 23, 2008, 08:05:43 am »

That is correct... The idea is to keep it small, freakin fast and provide basic useful software

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Re: VL-Light?
« Reply #106 on: January 23, 2008, 09:24:03 am »

Space usage: /usr/share/pixmaps and /usr/share/icons hold over 10 MB of images. It looks like many of those can be weeded out. How about we decide on one location and include only the icons actually used by the menu and desktop icons? There could be an optional package for those who want it all.
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Re: VL-Light?
« Reply #107 on: January 23, 2008, 11:35:51 am »

I made another config file for JWM which has a "Run" entry and a few more additions. Paste this into your ~/.jwmrc file to see the results.

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!-- This file controls the behavior of JWM. Edit with care! -->

<JWM>

    <!-- The root menu, if this is undefined you will not get a menu. -->
   <!-- Additional RootMenu attributes: onroot, labeled, label -->
   <RootMenu height="20">
      <!-- Addititional Menu attributes: height, labeled -->
         <Program icon="/usr/share/icons/Vista-Inspirate/scalable/filesystems/desktop.png" label="Desktop menu"></Program>
      <Separator/>
      <Program label=" Run.. " icon="/usr/share/icons/Vista-Inspirate/scalable/filesystems/computer.png">fbrun</Program>
      <Program label=" Terminal" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gksu-terminal.png">xterm</Program>
      <Program label=" File Manager" icon="/usr/share/xfe/icons/xfe-theme/xfe.png">xfe</Program>
      <Program label=" Web Browser" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/opera.xpm">opera</Program>
      <Program label=" Text Editor" icon="/usr/share/xfe/icons/xfe-theme/xfw.png">xfw</Program>
      <Separator/>
      <Menu label="Games" icon="/usr/share/icons/ROX-nuvola/apps/package_games.png">
             <Program label="xgalaga" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/xgalaga.png">xgalaga</Program>
           </Menu>
      <Menu label="Graphics" icon="/usr/share/icons/ROX-nuvola/apps/package_graphics.png">
         <Program label="mtpaint" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/xpaint.png">mtpaint</Program>
      </Menu>
      <Menu label="Multimedia" icon="/usr/share/icons/Vista-Inspirate/scalable/apps/package_multimedia.png">
         <Program label="XMMS" icon="/usr/share/icons/Vista-Inspirate/scalable/mimetypes/sound.png">xmms</Program>         
         <Program label="X264 Encoder" icon="">x264_gtk_encode</Program>
      </Menu>
      <Menu icon="/usr/share/icons/Vista-Inspirate/scalable/apps/network.png" label="Network">
         <Program label="Dillo" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/dillo.png">dillo</Program>
         <Program label="Opera" icon="/usr/share/icons/opera_48x48.png">opera</Program>
<Program label="Pidgin" icon="/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/pidgin.png">pidgin</Program>
         <Program label="VLSamba mount" icon="/usr/share/icons/ROX-nuvola/apps/samba.png">/sbin/vlsmbmnt</Program>
<Program label="vwifi" icon="wifi-radar.png">/sbin/vsuper "/sbin/vwifi"</Program>
      </Menu>
      <Menu label="Office" icon="/usr/share/icons/ROX-nuvola/apps/package_office.png">
      </Menu>
      <Menu label="System" icon="/usr/share/icons/ROX-nuvola/apps/package_system.png">
<Program label="GSlapt Package Manager" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gslapt.png">/sbin/vsuper "/usr/sbin/gslapt"</Program>
         <Program label="htop" icon="htop.png">xterm -bg black -fg white htop</Program>
         <Program label="Edit JWM" icon="/usr/share/icons/Vista-Inspirate/scalable/filesystems/gnome-fs-executable.png">xfw ~/.jwmrc</Program>
         <Program label="System Profiler and Benchmark" icon="/usr/share/hardinfo/pixmaps/logo.png">hardinfo</Program>
         <Program label="Terminal" icon="/usr/share/icons/Vista-Inspirate/scalable/apps/terminal.png">xterm</Program>
         <Program label="Terminal [root]" icon="/usr/share/icons/Vista-Inspirate/scalable/apps/terminal.png">/sbin/vsuper "xterm"</Program>
      <Program label="VASM" icon="/usr/share/icons/ROX-nuvola/apps/vasm.png">/sbin/vasm</Program>
<Program label="VLeasytables" icon="/usr/share/icons/Rodent/48x48/misc/firewall.png">/sbin/vsuper "vleasytables"</Program>
       </Menu>
      <Separator/>
      <Menu label="Quit">
          <Restart label="Restart JWM" icon="restart.png"/>
          <Exit label="Log Out" confirm="false" icon="exit.png"/>
          <Program label="Reboot">sudo /sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now</Program>
          <Program label="Shutdown">sudo /sbin/shutdown -t3 -h now</Program>
      </Menu>
   </RootMenu>
   <Group>
      <Class>Pidgin</Class>
      <Option>sticky</Option>
   </Group>

   <Group>
      <Name>gkrellm2</Name>
      <Option>nolist</Option>
   </Group>

   <Group>
      <Name>rxvt</Name>
      <Option>vmax</Option>
   </Group>

   <!-- Additional tray attributes: autohide, width, border, layer, layout -->
   <Tray  x="0" y="-1" height="32">

    <!-- Additional TrayButton attribute: label -->
        <TrayButton label="Start" icon="/usr/share/icons/ROX-nuvola/apps/vector.png">root:1</TrayButton>

      <TrayButton label="" icon="/usr/share/icons/Vista-Inspirate/scalable/filesystems/desktop.png">showdesktop</TrayButton>


      <!-- Additional Pager attributes; width, height -->
      <Pager/>

      <!-- Additional TaskList attribute: maxwidth -->
      <TaskList/>

      <Dock/>

      <!-- Additional Swallow attribute: height -->
      <Swallow name="xload" width="64">
         xload -nolabel -bg black -fg red -hl white
      </Swallow>

      <Clock>xclock</Clock>

   </Tray>

   <!-- Visual Styles -->

   <WindowStyle>

      <Font>FreeSans-9:bold</Font>
      <Width>4</Width>
      <Height>20</Height>

      <Active>
         <Text>white</Text>
         <Title>#70849d:#2e3a67</Title>
         <Corner>white</Corner>
         <Outline>black</Outline>
      </Active>

      <Inactive>
         <Text>#aaaaaa</Text>
         <Title>#808488:#303438</Title>
         <Corner>#aaaaaa</Corner>
         <Outline>black</Outline>
      </Inactive>

   </WindowStyle>

   <TaskListStyle>
      <Font>FreeSans-12</Font>
      <ActiveForeground>black</ActiveForeground>
      <ActiveBackground>gray90:gray70</ActiveBackground>
      <Foreground>black</Foreground>
      <Background>gray70:gray90</Background>
   </TaskListStyle>

   <!-- Additional TrayStyle attribute: insert -->
   <TrayStyle>
      <Font>FreeSans-12</Font>
      <Background>gray90</Background>
      <Foreground>black</Foreground>
   </TrayStyle>

   <PagerStyle>
      <Outline>black</Outline>
      <Foreground>gray90</Foreground>
      <Background>#808488</Background>
      <ActiveForeground>#70849d</ActiveForeground>
      <ActiveBackground>#2e3a67</ActiveBackground>
   </PagerStyle>

   <MenuStyle>
      <Font>FreeSans-10</Font>
      <Foreground>black</Foreground>
      <Background>gray90</Background>
      <ActiveForeground>white</ActiveForeground>
      <ActiveBackground>#70849d:#2e3a67</ActiveBackground>
   </MenuStyle>

   <PopupStyle>
      <Font>FreeSans-10</Font>
      <Outline>black</Outline>
      <Foreground>black</Foreground>
      <Background>yellow</Background>
   </PopupStyle>

   <IconPath>/usr/share/pixmaps</IconPath>

   <StartupCommand>
      if test x"$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" = x""; then
         dbuslaunch=`which dbus-launch`
         if test x"$dbuslaunch" != x"" -a x"$dbuslaunch" != x"no"; then
            eval `$dbuslaunch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session`
         fi
      fi
      #xfdesktop
   </StartupCommand>

   <!-- Virtual Desktops -->
   <!-- Desktop tags can be contained within Desktops for desktop names. -->
   <Desktops count="2">
   </Desktops>

   <!-- Double click speed (in milliseconds) -->
   <DoubleClickSpeed>400</DoubleClickSpeed>

   <!-- Double click delta (in pixels) -->
   <DoubleClickDelta>2</DoubleClickDelta>

   <!-- The focus model (sloppy or click) -->
   <FocusModel>click</FocusModel>

   <!-- The snap mode (none, screen, or border) -->
   <SnapMode distance="10">border</SnapMode>

   <!-- The move mode (outline or opaque) -->
   <MoveMode>opaque</MoveMode>

   <!-- The resize mode (outline or opaque) -->
   <ResizeMode>opaque</ResizeMode>

   <!-- Key bindings -->
   <Key key="Up">up</Key>
   <Key key="Down">down</Key>
   <Key key="Right">right</Key>
   <Key key="Left">left</Key>
   <Key key="h">left</Key>
   <Key key="j">down</Key>
   <Key key="k">up</Key>
   <Key key="l">right</Key>
   <Key key="Return">select</Key>
   <Key key="Escape">escape</Key>

   <Key mask="A" key="Tab">nextstacked</Key>
   <Key mask="A" key="F4">close</Key>
   <Key mask="A" key="#">desktop#</Key>
   <Key mask="A" key="F1">root:1</Key>
   <Key mask="A" key="F2">window</Key>

</JWM>
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Re: VL-Light?
« Reply #108 on: January 23, 2008, 11:45:51 am »

can we put a set of desktop icons together and have it start idesk automatically?

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Re: VL-Light?
« Reply #109 on: January 23, 2008, 01:04:35 pm »

As it is right now, idesk won't start without manual tweaking. I have some launcers made that I'll propose for next release.

To make it launch automatically, just search for "#xfdesktop" in the above .jwmrc file and replace that with "idesk".
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Re: VL-Light?
« Reply #110 on: January 23, 2008, 01:07:06 pm »

VL-5.1 STD was 390MB
we are shooting for a final size not to exceed 350MB
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Re: VL-Light?
« Reply #111 on: January 23, 2008, 06:47:46 pm »

Slackware-based GoblinX has two small versions, Micro (102mb) and Mini (158mb).

The GoblinX Mini Edition is the son of GoblinX and contains only XFCE as windows manager and GTK/GTK2 based applications. The Mini Edition contains some of the most often used and praised applications for Linux, even though it has less than one hundred and fifty megabytes of size. Some of these best Linux applications included are: Abiword, Firefox, Pidgin Gcalctool, Totem, Gimp, Gnumeric, Hardinfo, Audacious, GStreamer, Brasero, Sylpheed, Evince and more.
Main upgrades since release 2.5:
Upgraded Xorg and several other packages. Upgraded Xfce to the new 4.4.2 release. Upgraded several scripts and interfaces. Corrected some bugs. Compiz and Mesa are included in a separeted module. Removed Sylpheed and Beryl.
This is the first release candidate.
http://www.goblinx.com.br/en/index_mini.htm
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The GoblinX Micro Edition is the smallest version of our distribution and contains only Fluxbox as windows manager and GTK/GTK2 based applications. The edition is indicated for those users whose like to do fast tests, know more about Fluxbox and rebuild the livecd.
The Micro is created mostly to help us to develop better and small applications that can be used for all small windows managers such as Fluxbox, and also prepare the livecd without all less necessary files we can find. We also intend to use it to test Web2 and/or Ajax applications.
Main upgrades since release candidate rc01 edition:
Added Slax(Tomas) firewall. Added more options to Isolinux menu. Rebuilt Gtkdialog interfaces to not allow resize action. Corrected few errors and bugs. Corrected Kill button in media manager interfaces. Added Ghdcpd and Xrefresh. Upgraded some libraries and packages including Xorg-server. Changed z.Goblix for z.Micro, a different GoblinX module for Micro edition. Changed z.User for z.Muser, a different User settings module for Micro edition. Corrected some Sudo issues. Removed Xorg default resolution. Recompiled Fluxbox  against Imlib2.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2008, 07:04:04 pm by nubcnubdo »
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Re: VL-Light?
« Reply #112 on: January 23, 2008, 07:53:31 pm »

How do I get Geany? I'm trying to paste nightflier's JWM config file to /.jwmrc, but I dont think I will be able to use mc editor without assistance. So if someone could give me a little assist, would be appreciated. I need specific instructions for the copy and paste operation.

Using the mc editor reminds me of trying to use Hewlett Packard calculators, the ones with no "equals" button.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2008, 08:12:37 pm by nubcnubdo »
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Re: VL-Light?
« Reply #113 on: January 23, 2008, 09:30:11 pm »

I think there is an old 5.8 package for Geany that should work fine under 5.9 - its in the 5.8 reps. You might want to try "medit", supplied with 5.9, it's a lot easier to use than mcedit. The only great thing about mcedit is that it ties in well with mc.

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Re: VL-Light?
« Reply #114 on: January 24, 2008, 05:00:07 am »

How do I get Geany? I'm trying to paste nightflier's JWM config file to /.jwmrc, but I dont think I will be able to use mc editor without assistance. So if someone could give me a little assist, would be appreciated. I need specific instructions for the copy and paste operation.

Using the mc editor reminds me of trying to use Hewlett Packard calculators, the ones with no "equals" button.

Try using xfw
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Re: VL-Light?
« Reply #115 on: January 24, 2008, 08:33:51 am »

In jwm, I have found that on initial launch of xfe, xvi or xfw, the title bar may be off the top of the screen and not reachable with the mouse. Correct this by right-clicking on the panel entry for the window, select "move" and dragging the window down. On subsequent launches they position themselves correctly.
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Re: VL-Light?
« Reply #116 on: January 25, 2008, 01:31:24 pm »

Just making VL-lite concept art

Will be available later as 1280x1024 && 1280x800 wallpaper version if needed. (:
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Re: VL-Light?
« Reply #117 on: January 25, 2008, 01:44:17 pm »

WoW!... that looks fantastic!...
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Re: VL-Light?
« Reply #118 on: January 25, 2008, 01:46:08 pm »

Just making VL-lite concept art

Will be available later as 1280x1024 && 1280x800 wallpaper version if needed. (:

* Jaw hits keyboard *
That is gorgeous!
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Re: VL-Light?
« Reply #119 on: January 25, 2008, 02:52:30 pm »

Thats a kick-ass wallpaper.

Just... its light, not lite. ;)
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