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Author Topic: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread  (Read 18459 times)

nubcnubdo

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Re: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2008, 09:11:12 pm »

I would like for VL Light to have its own unique wallpapers. So maybe some other default wallpaper in Fluxbox.
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Re: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2008, 01:57:40 pm »

VASMCC doesn't work at all on my armada e500 laptop, 128 ram, p3 500.  Having a lot of problems getting java to stick in my firefox install.  Also, does anyone know how to get maelstrom RPM package to truly install on Slackware?
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nubcnubdo

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Re: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2008, 05:56:24 pm »

I'm gonna start a list of programs with "Lite" in the name. I think "Lite" gives a nouveau touch to a name, making it seem contemporary and progressive. "Light" is dull and unimaginative, and too generic a word to carry specific meaning. I'm trying to think of a term, and it escapes me. What I seek is a term for a word that embodies what it represents. And I believe "lite" is one of these words, because it is a reduction to essentials of the word 'light", and yet still conveys the meaning in a unique way. "Lite" is a geeky spelling of "light" in the sense that computer typing tends to use only the letters that convey the word intelligibly and if there are superfluous unpronounced letters (like archaic "gh"), those letters are generally dropped. I ask you, can you come up with a shorter way to represent "light" in English? I think "Lite" is more hip than "Light." Let's take a chance on "Lite."

Expect-lite command line automation
http://www.linux.com/feature/128384

Linpus Lite 9.4
http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/24503

Mandriva Kiosk Lite
http://club.mandriva.com/xwiki/bin/Main/KioskLiteTesting

Ubuntulite
http://ubuntulite.tuxfamily.org/

SQLite
http://www.sqlite.org/



« Last Edit: March 25, 2008, 12:35:29 pm by nubcnubdo »
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uelsk8s

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Re: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2008, 06:10:16 pm »

nubcnubdo,

IMO Lite means stripped down and Broken. and is definitely not Hip.

Sorry, but we wont be taking a chance on Lite or anything else that = crippleware.

Uelsk8s
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nubcnubdo

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Re: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2008, 06:17:15 pm »

I understand and appreciate what you're saying. But can you give me a few examples where "Light" is used to describe a version of a distro? Unless you object, I'm gonna build that list, just to keep track.
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Re: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2008, 07:15:31 pm »

Changing name now from "Light" to "Lite" would mean extra work changing the files with "Light" in it.
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nubcnubdo

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Re: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2008, 07:52:03 am »

With reports of Firefox 3's improved speed, maybe we should reconsider the default browser.
http://www.computerworlduk.com/technology/internet/applications/news/index.cfm?RSS&newsid=7979
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Re: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2008, 10:38:18 am »

With reports of Firefox 3's improved speed, maybe we should reconsider the default browser.
http://www.computerworlduk.com/technology/internet/applications/news/index.cfm?RSS&newsid=7979

I'm using lastest ff builds, and I noticed a 'slight' improvement,  but I think this article is too optimistic....

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Re: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2008, 05:16:58 am »

Hi.

No cyrillic X11 fonts. Bad.

ndiswrapper doesn't work in -ck kernel.

Video configurator in installer should show not only videcard's vendor name, but it's model too. Choosing between two nVidias, not knowing, which one is 6100 and which is 8600 is not fun ;) .

The only association "Lite" for me has is "Coca-Cola". I don't want to use a Cola distro.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2008, 05:22:15 am by Vanger »
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Re: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2008, 05:52:54 am »

None of my Light installs (trying since b1) have had DRI.

Not that I'd need it for much, but it'd be nice to have it where available... Every one of my installs is on a box with a descent intel card.

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Re: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2008, 07:09:46 am »

The cyrillic fonts might be there but not enabled :(  I haven't had time to reinstall Light and check.  Try the fontfix package now in testing.  It's a patch to VL that enables all the installed fonts.  VL 5.9 Std & Light have a bug where many fonts are installed but disabled out of the box.
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Vanger

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Re: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2008, 07:15:17 am »

The cyrillic fonts might be there but not enabled :(  I haven't had time to reinstall Light and check. 

They aren't. I checked ;) . No cyrillics directory in /usr/lib/fonts/
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Re: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2008, 08:01:38 am »

VASMCC doesn't work at all on my armada e500 laptop, 128 ram, p3 500.  Having a lot of problems getting java to stick in my firefox install.  Also, does anyone know how to get maelstrom RPM package to truly install on Slackware?

Can you run vasmCC in a terminal as root and paste the output here?

caitlyn

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Re: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2008, 11:07:01 am »

The cyrillic fonts might be there but not enabled :(  I haven't had time to reinstall Light and check.

They aren't. I checked ;) . No cyrillics directory in /usr/lib/fonts/

Fonts in Vector Linux 5.9 and Slackware 12 are found in /usr/share/fonts, not /usr/lib/fonts.  You might want to check again :)
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HP Mini 110 netbook, 1.6GHz Intel Atom CPU, 2GB RAM, Intel 950 video, VL 7.1

nubcnubdo

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Re: VL-Light (5.9) Beta 2 Bug thread
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2008, 11:51:54 pm »

Setting aside pragmatics for the moment, I would like us to consider the "Lite" spelling one last time. Although it may very well be that this spelling has a connotation of crippleware in proprietary/commercial software, I don't believe "Lite" has this meaning in free/open source software. For example, Ubuntulite recently became a member of the Ubuntu family. If you visit tuxmachines.org and search the word "lite" you will find it in common usage there. A recent review entitled "VectorLinux 5.9: Light, fast Slackware-based distro" illustrates the confusion that can come from using a generic word/spelling such as "Light." Furthermore, I find the proposed usage of "Light" to be stodgy and hope this is not the image we want to present to the world.

I think we've discussed it enough. I therefore call for a vote on this matter. I will be happy to abide by the majority opinion. (I would be surprised if there were more than 20 people interested in this issue.) I only ask that voters review this thread before deciding. So, then, uelsk8s, would you mind setting up a poll for this vote. I suggest we close the poll in two weeks time, after posting.

___VL 5.9 Light

___VL 5.9 Lite

 
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