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Sivatheja
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« on: March 01, 2008, 07:47:38 pm »

I think when I crossed 100 posts did my thing change to 'vectorite' from 'Member'.

Yesterday my brother came with a Solaris CD and was thinking to make this machine a dual boot one. You know what I asked? "How much MB or RAM would that require to show itself on the monitor?", he was not sure about that, and I said, "'htop' shows that it eats 124MB to show itself on the monitor". He was very pleased indeed and threw away that Solaris CD.

Even he started exploring Linux distros and suggested Ubuntu, but it was eating 400MB atleast. He seems to be convinced of having VL at home Cheesy

VL is not living up to expectations, but is exceeding Tongue, excellent job buddies. My day starts (and ends) with VL.

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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2008, 05:05:15 am »

sivatheja:

Fantastic, great story.  There's nothing like seeing the numbers right there in your face.  I have to say that I am a bit surprised that Ubuntu uses 400 MB, but not completely surprised.  I had recent Ubuntu on a spare (testing) partition, and I found it to be very slow on my machine.

Thanks for telling the story.

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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2008, 05:20:45 am »

Congrates on the 100 posts and the promotion of VL.  it's a great Distro that goes far to often unheralded.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2008, 05:23:47 am »

Tom:
You know where I found that 400MB thing which has convinced everyone so much at home? The same 'brain storm Ubuntu' which you've posted in here. One fellow there was saying that Ubuntu uses only 400MB while he has 2GB of RAM, and wanted Ubuntu to preload apps so that it can be faster. It actually gave out two answers to me, first is Ubuntu uses 400MB, and next is inspite of 400MB it is slow Cheesy

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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2008, 06:36:46 am »

I feel sick to my stomach ... only 400 just to run the OS and desktop, without any applications, and it's slow, too!?!  That's just wrong.
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2008, 06:57:58 am »

sivatheja:

I feel a little better now, after I found the suggestion on ubuntu brainstorm.  The suggestion has 262 negative votes, and most of the comments indicate that configuring a system to use more RAM rather than less is a bad idea.

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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2008, 07:10:25 am »

I've been searching that brainstorm forum for 20 min, and even my browser history for the link that I've seen in the morning; but  am not getting it Sad
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2008, 07:04:10 am »

sivatheja:

I'm sorry I didn't respond to your post earlier; I just saw it this morning.

This is the idea I found on Ubuntu Brainstorm:  http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/59/

I'm pretty sure it's the same one you saw, but not absolutely sure.

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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2008, 07:41:12 am »

Whow! Speechless Shocked
How could  you mange to get that post Grin
I could not! (even when I tried with my browser history Huh)

I think the prob is that that guy wrote 400Mo and I googled for 400 MB (Google gives 'near' matches also, but I think Google must not have refreshed his snapshot of that site then Undecided )
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2008, 08:12:38 am »

sivatheja:

Don't be too impressed by my abilities Wink; I just happened to remember that the guy was asking for Ubuntu to preload software, and so I went to the Ubuntu Brainstorm page and did a search on the site for "preload."  It was the 8th post listed in the search.

Yeah, that thing where he listed RAM usage in megaoctets instead of megabytes was strange.  I knew the term, but I don't think I've ever seen it used in that context.

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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2008, 08:39:52 am »

FYI:

Little bit of Googling says that Mo and MB are the same Cheesy
1 byte  = 8 bits = one Octet.

http://oblivionrealm.proboards31.com/index.cgi?board=Learn&action=display&thread=1150723387

megabyte (also megaoctet) - 1024 kilobytes or 1,048,576 bytes
gigabyte (also gigaoctet) - 1024 megabytes, 1,048,576 kilobytes or
1,073,741,824 bytes
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2008, 09:11:25 am »

sivatheja:

I looked at that link you posted and as soon as I saw "   x86-assembly" I knew that if I read any more it would short-circuit my brain.  Cheesy

Thanks for the information.  I suspected that megaoctet=megabyte, but didn't know for sure.

Tom
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2008, 01:51:36 pm »

Quote
megabyte (also megaoctet) - 1024 kilobytes or 1,048,576 bytes
gigabyte (also gigaoctet) - 1024 megabytes, 1,048,576 kilobytes or
1,073,741,824 bytes
Actually, according to the SI system Mega means 106. However, in the computer world the term Megabyte can mean pretty much anything between 106 (1,000,000) and 2201,048,576 , which explains why a drive advertised as 80 GB (80 * 109 Bytes) only shows up as 80,000,000,000 / 230=74,5 GB in some programs (and, IMO the drive manufacturers are right, even if this means you'll get a smaller drive than you think).

Which is why mebibytes are sometimes used to describe 2 20 Bytes.
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2008, 02:06:28 pm »

I was told there would be no math on this exam.
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2008, 06:20:41 am »

Talking about high RAM usage reminded me of a column about the upcoming release of Ubuntu 9.0:  Hungry Hippo.

Here's a link to the press release.
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