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[boneygamba]

Hi Cariboo, Guys

I would just add that according to http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins2500/en/sm_en/specs.htm, the network card comes as an option in this series(Inspiron 2500).
Given the output of lspci (and the other commands) perhaps this particular laptop only has the 56k modem installed?

I know that you say that it works in win XP but i thought i would post all the same just in case it helps. : - )

boneygamba

[Cariboo]

Hi Cariboo, Guys
I would just add that according to http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins2500/en/sm_en/specs.htm, the network card comes as an option in this series(Inspiron 2500).
Given the output of lspci (and the other commands) perhaps this particular laptop only has the 56k modem installed?
I know that you say that it works in win XP but i thought i would post all the same just in case it helps. : - )
boneygamba

Thanks for the hint...I googled and now I know why it works in Windows. The card is a "Mini PCI card modem/network adapter" and in Windows there is a driver for it installed. The Windows driver for that card comes from HERE.
It looks there is no driver for Linux available.  

[newt]

There's potential hope here.  I've read of other folks getting this same device up and running through various methods.  I think the easiest method - assuming it was missed during install - is to make sure you installed the pcmcia packages during setup.  Hopefully you didn't and it'll just be a matter of installing that and rebooting (maybe a modprobe as well).  Do a search in gslapt for 'pcmcia' and if it looks like the packages haven't been installed then install them and reboot (should be two packages I think).  Hopefully it'll be that easy

EDIT:
Also what is the output of:
ls -al /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia

[Cariboo]

Hi newtor,
unfortunately it seems to be not that easy....

The packages "pcmcia-cs" and "pcmciautils" were installed.
The output of 'ls -al /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia' is:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1722 2007-03-16 21:09 /etc/rc.d/rcpcmcia.

What would be a modprobe?

Thanks
Cariboo

[newt]

Let's start by making your rc.pcmcia script executable so that it starts at boot time to see if your ethernet card will show up (as root, chmod a+x /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia), then run the script (as root, /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia), and then run 'lspci' again.  If you still do not see your 3com card, try rebooting and running 'lspci' once you're booted.  Hopefully we're on the right track here!!

[bigpaws]

I am guessing that your card is removable and is using the
pcmcia slot.

The problem is that you did not setup the system to allow the use
of the pcmcia card, which in return has made solving this problem
longer than expected.

The question about modprobe is used to is to insert a module (driver if you will)
into the kernel.

The solution is getting very close.

Bigpawss

[Cariboo]

I am guessing that your card is removable and is using the
pcmcia slot.

No, the card can not be accessed from outside!

[Cariboo]

Let's start by making your rc.pcmcia script executable so that it starts at boot time to see if your ethernet card will show up (as root, chmod a+x /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia), then run the script (as root, /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia), and then run 'lspci' again.  If you still do not see your 3com card, try rebooting and running 'lspci' once you're booted.  Hopefully we're on the right track here!!

I got rc.pcmcia executable, but I don't know if command '/etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia' did anything.
Is this '/etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia'  the full command and what would I have to expect?
'lspci' gives still this:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 11)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC) (rev 11)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BAM IDE U100 Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
01:03.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933/711E1 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller (rev 01)
01:03.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933/711E1 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller (rev 01)
01:0b.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems WinModem 56k (rev 01)

[newt]

Perhaps I missed a word - oops (/etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia start)
Sorry about that!

Just to make sure we're talking about the same kind of hardware,
Does your ethernet card look like any of the two links below, or is it actually built into the laptop body and cannot be removed?
http://www.teksale.com/images/dell%203com%2010-100%203CCFE575CT.jpg
http://www.aiyamicro.com/pc-parts-peripherals/pics-computer-parts/3CCFE575CT.jpg

Maybe with a cable like this one?
http://www.mymetropolist.com/forsale/dell_3ccfe575ct-d_3com.jpg

[Cariboo]

Just to make sure we're talking about the same kind of hardware,
Does your ethernet card look like any of the two links below,
http://www.teksale.com/images/dell%203com%2010-100%203CCFE575CT.jpg
http://www.aiyamicro.com/pc-parts-peripherals/pics-computer-parts/3CCFE575CT.jpg
Maybe with a cable like this one?
http://www.mymetropolist.com/forsale/dell_3ccfe575ct-d_3com.jpg

No, it doesn't look like any of these....

or is it actually built into the laptop body and cannot be removed?

Yes, it's built into the laptop and can't be removed!

[newt]

Okay, forget the pcmcia stuff... I was traveling down the wrong path.  I thought you were dealing with a pcmcia card based on your link to dell's driver, but (as you've already stated) it's a mini-pci card with both modem and lan.

According to someone using ubuntu, there are a couple options you could try:

The simplest being to try manually loading the module/driver yourself (assuming it's available to load by default).  But it should be as simple as entering the following command as root: modprobe 3c59x
Then check to make sure the module is loaded (lsmod), and if so then see if your hardware shows in 'lspci'

Another possiblity is to try using apm rather than acpi, by adding a few appends (arguments) to your lilo.conf file.  Start with the above option first and see where it gets you.

[Cariboo]

According to someone using ubuntu, there are a couple options you could try:
The simplest being to try manually loading the module/driver yourself (assuming it's available to load by default).  But it should be as simple as entering the following command as root: modprobe 3c59x
Then check to make sure the module is loaded (lsmod), and if so then see if your hardware shows in 'lspci'
 

Thanks newtor,
I attached the output of the terminal after running the suggested procedure!

[newt]

When you run 'ifconfig -a' does anything besides the 'lo' device show up; i.e. eth0 maybe?

Again, I'm reaching about my extent with troubleshooting troublesome hardware .  I "feel" like you are on the verge of a breakthrough but I don't think I can get you all the way there.  I'm hoping someone else will drop in with some ideas on how to further proceed.

The only other thing I've found that might be worth a try is to try is disabling acpi and enabling apm.  A way you can test this without making actual changes via the following procedure:
reboot
when lilo pops up, press 'TAB' key
type 'linux acpi=off noacpi' without the quotes
login to VL
as root, type 'modprobe apm' (does this command work for you?)
then check lspci and ifconfig -a for your ethernet card and eth0, respectively.

If it makes no difference then simply rebooting normally will put you back to where you were.

[toothandnail]

According to someone using ubuntu, there are a couple options you could try:
The simplest being to try manually loading the module/driver yourself (assuming it's available to load by default).  But it should be as simple as entering the following command as root: modprobe 3c59x
Then check to make sure the module is loaded (lsmod), and if so then see if your hardware shows in 'lspci'
 

Thanks newtor,
I attached the output of the terminal after running the suggested procedure!

Looking at the file you uploaded (it would be easier to copy to the clipboard and paste between code tags, BTW), the module has loaded, but lspci does not report the hardware at all, which is quite strange.

I would almost suggest getting another mini-PCI card (I know there are combos which provide modem and ethernet - I've seen an Intel one that has both, though I don't know if the Intel modem has support under Linux). Anyhow, that might be an option - should be quite easy to pick one up from somewhere like eBay, and they are usually not too difficult to change.

Try 'lspci -v' as root and paste the output, maybe that will reveal a bit more. At the moment, it is a s though Linux doesn't see the hardware at all.

paul.

[Cariboo]

@ Paul

Try 'lspci -v' as root and paste the output, maybe that will reveal a bit more. At the moment, it is a s though Linux doesn't see the hardware at all.

paul.

!!!!!!!!!!!Pasting the output of the terminal gives some Font Size Problems when I preview the text!!!!!!

lspci -v
--------

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 11)
        Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 00c9
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Capabilities: [88] Vendor Specific Information

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC) (rev 11) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
        Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 00c9
        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
        Memory at f8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
        Memory at f4000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
        Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=09, sec-latency=64
        I/O behind bridge: 00002000-00002fff
        Memory behind bridge: f4100000-f41fffff
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 10000000-17ffffff

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 03)
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BAM IDE U100 Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 80 [Master])
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
        [virtual] Memory at 000001f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=8]
        [virtual] Memory at 000003f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
        [virtual] Memory at 00000170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=8]
        [virtual] Memory at 00000370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
        I/O ports at 1800 [size=16]

00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5
        I/O ports at 1820 [size=32]

00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 03)
        Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 5
        I/O ports at 1810 [size=16]

00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5
        I/O ports at 1880 [size=32]

00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
        Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 00c9
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5
        I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
        I/O ports at 1840 [size=64]

01:03.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933/711E1 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller (rev 01)
        Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 00c9
        Flags: bus master, stepping, slow devsel, latency 168, IRQ 5
        Memory at f4101000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Bus: primary=01, secondary=02, subordinate=05, sec-latency=176
        Memory window 0: 10000000-13fff000 (prefetchable)
        Memory window 1: 18000000-1bfff000
        I/O window 0: 00002800-000028ff
        I/O window 1: 00002c00-00002cff
        16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

01:03.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933/711E1 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller (rev 01)
        Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 00c9
        Flags: bus master, stepping, slow devsel, latency 168, IRQ 5
        Memory at f4102000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Bus: primary=01, secondary=06, subordinate=09, sec-latency=176
        Memory window 0: 14000000-17fff000 (prefetchable)
        Memory window 1: 1c000000-1ffff000
        I/O window 0: 00001400-000014ff
        I/O window 1: 00003000-000030ff
        16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

01:0b.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems WinModem 56k (rev 01)
        Subsystem: Actiontec Electronics Inc Unknown device 2000
        Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 5
        Memory at f4100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
        I/O ports at 2400 [size=8]
        I/O ports at 2000 [size=256]
        Capabilities: [f8] Power Management version 2
   

lsmod
-----

Module                  Size  Used by
freq_table              4768  0
lp                     10888  0
parport_pc             37092  1
parport                32072  2 lp,parport_pc
i915                   23296  0
drm                    74388  1 i915
snd_seq_dummy           3716  0
snd_seq_oss            30080  0
snd_seq_midi_event      7040  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                47952  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          7436  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            40096  0
snd_mixer_oss          15104  1 snd_pcm_oss
serio_raw               6276  0
martian_dev            17940  1
snd_intel8x0           29596  2
snd_ac97_codec         97060  1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus                2944  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                69892  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer              19844  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    44516  13 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore               7008  1 snd
snd_page_alloc          8712  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
intel_agp              22420  1
agpgart                28108  3 drm,intel_agp
iTCO_wdt                9640  0
i2c_i801                8592  0
i2c_i810                5380  0
shpchp                 30228  0
i2c_algo_bit            6532  1 i2c_i810
pci_hotplug            28616  1 shpchp
i2c_core               20992  3 i2c_i801,i2c_i810,i2c_algo_bit
evdev                   8704  0
joydev                  9152  0