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Author Topic: Can't listen to music from one band, because files are hidden.  (Read 4530 times)

Asound

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Can't listen to music from one band, because files are hidden.
« on: September 08, 2008, 06:47:26 pm »

Hi,

a few days ago I decided to listen to music from the band called "Ill Niño". But Iam having a problem. The files are hidden because of the "~" over the "n". The files arent showing up, even when i use the "ls -a" command in the console or tell thunar to show hidden files. Well I just could go to windows and change the foldernames and filenames, but there has to be another way.  Is there a way to make it visible/accessable?
Iam using Vectorlinux 5.9 Gold.

Thanks.
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Re: Can't listen to music from one band, because files are hidden.
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2008, 07:28:14 pm »

Are the files on a cd, a flashdrive or your hard drive from download.  I was interested to see this was a problem so I copied the name as you wrote it and changed some file names.  It did not seem to cause me any trouble. I am using VL 5.9 gold.
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Re: Can't listen to music from one band, because files are hidden.
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2008, 08:28:40 am »

The files are on my harddisk, on my Windows partition. First when I decided to listen to it, I was shocked, because I thougt that all was deleted (even Amarok didnt picked up the songs and saved them in the database...). When I changed to Windows the folder was still there so I changed the name and deleted the "~" but the "~" is still in the filenames. The folder now is just empty, there arent any songs...
« Last Edit: September 09, 2008, 08:30:35 am by Asound »
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Re: Can't listen to music from one band, because files are hidden.
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2008, 09:06:17 am »

 So you can see the file but not the songs, when you are running in windows as well?
When were you last able to see the songs? Was it from windows or Vector?
Have you checked the trash files on both OS just in case?
When you right click on the folder and select properties, how many files does it say the folder contains?

There is a possibility this file was empty all along. I'm sure it had songs in it at one time, but at the time you tried to access it in Vector, perhaps it was already empty, because of some other reason.  Maybe a family member just does not like Ill Niño.
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Re: Can't listen to music from one band, because files are hidden.
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2008, 09:13:42 am »

Well, the folder where the songs are was hidden, until I changed the foldername with Windows. But the songs are still hidden in Linux because of the "~" in the filenames. On Windows I dont have any problems with it. When I look at the proberties of the folder, then its says its empty.
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Re: Can't listen to music from one band, because files are hidden.
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2008, 09:42:55 am »

I wonder if it could be a persmissions problem.  Maybe your windows partition is not mounted for normal user use.  Have you tried switching to root and then browsing this music directory?  As root, I would expect that you would be able to see everything on the mounted partition.  If this works then it's just a matter of adjusting the mounting command in /etc/fstab to allow all users access to the data.
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Re: Can't listen to music from one band, because files are hidden.
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2008, 09:51:54 am »

Even when Iam logged in as root the files are hidden! :(
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Re: Can't listen to music from one band, because files are hidden.
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2008, 10:19:32 am »

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On Windows I dont have any problems with it. When I look at the proberties of the folder, then its says its empty.

This is kind of wierd on it's own. You can see the files when in windows, but when you check the file properties in windows it says the file is empty?
Am I understanding this correctly? Are these files shortcuts to another place in your windows system by chance?

I wish I had windows dual booted with VL on my system I'd experiment for you, but I am VL only over here. Sorry.
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Re: Can't listen to music from one band, because files are hidden.
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2008, 10:51:32 am »

No these songs arent shortcuts. WIth "When I look at the proberties of the folder, then its says its empty." I meant, when I look at the proberties of the folder with Linux.
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Re: Can't listen to music from one band, because files are hidden.
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2008, 11:28:44 am »

I don't know what the problem is but I suspect it has to do with the fact that these files are on an ntfs partition.  I have tons of music with accented characters, including a tilde over an n, and none become hidden because of the tilde on a native Linux or UNIX partition.  The character isn't the problem except perhaps in ntfs-3g.  Thankfully I don't run Windows so I don't have to deal with any of this nonsense.

Do you have an ext2, ext3, xfs, jfs, or reiserfs partition anywhere?  Try moving the files to a native *nix partition and see if that fixes the problem.
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Re: Can't listen to music from one band, because files are hidden.
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2008, 09:08:30 pm »

Also you could try simply copying the files to a flash drive when in windows then transfering them to the linux side when you are booted to linux.  I know it is a cheat, but I think Caitlyn identified the week spot n ntfs-3g.  I think if you try it that way you will see the special characters just fine.
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