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StrayBit
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« on: October 05, 2008, 05:45:57 am »

I've been trying for over 10 years to get Linux (usually Slackware) working on my old windows boxes.  Finally got a reply from Pat saying "Yes, while this version (4 or earlier?) would run in 8MB ram, it needs a bit more to setup." 

Occasionally could get one installed but couldn't figure out how to work it! (I migrated from CP/M-MSDOS-Win95-Win98.)  Started trying LiveCDs (DSL, Puppy, Slack 7, Ubantu, VL4).  Some of them found my Wireless Broadband connection.  Then I couldn't download VL5.9 Standard iso though I could get VL4 to get as much as 520MB).

Yesterday, I had a friend download the iso and create a cd.  After a couple of false starts with my partitioning, it installed on this PII(I) 500MHz box the first time and got me onto the internet.   

Unfortunately, When I try to access the HOWTOs from the Vector-Docs icon, I get the following message:
"Forbidden"
"You don't have permission to access /vectorlinux/forum/viewforum.php"
Apache/2 Server at www.ibiblio.org Port 80"
Do I have to be logged in with root privileges?  Or is there something else that I have done wrong?

Sorry this is solooooong!
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lagagnon
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2008, 06:10:34 am »

Unfortunately, When I try to access the HOWTOs from the Vector-Docs icon, I get the following message:
"Forbidden"
"You don't have permission to access /vectorlinux/forum/viewforum.php"
Apache/2 Server at www.ibiblio.org Port 80"

Welcome to the VL Forums! Please show us the link you are attempting to access where you get that message...
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StrayBit
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2008, 07:26:54 am »

It happens on several of the links -- just to pick one "installing Opera and BitTorrent":
  http://ibiblio.org/vectorlinux/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2627
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nightflier
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2008, 05:40:32 pm »

That is an old link to a non-functioning message board. The document (from VL4?) is out of date.  Sad
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StrayBit
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2008, 05:44:36 am »

But this is from the desktop of the 5.9 fresh installation! 

I only used VL4 to attempt to download 5.9 and it was unsuccessful.

VL5.9 was downloaded on a Vista system and the cd created on that machine.
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2008, 06:03:53 am »

OK, but as nightflier says those are old links from an old no longer existing forum. The latest docs are already pre-loaded on your 5.9 box ( there should have been an icon to them).

For the latest HOWTO's go here:
http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?board=10.0

For latest online docs go here:
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/docs/vl59/index.html
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StrayBit
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2008, 09:07:47 am »

Thanks.  I had already found, and bookmarked, these links.

I still don't understand how I would have the invalid links as VL4 was run as a live cd (and didn't seem to have any persistence from on session to the next) and hda was partitioned and reformatted on insertion of the new VL5.9 cd.  Unless, it put something on hdc which is my old Win98 drive. Opps!  On one of my earlier installation tries with another distro, I had formatted my Zip drive as a swap partition!  Perhaps I should remove that disk, erase hda and start over?  (hda1 is swap - 100-200MB, hda - nearly 4GB is / )

This is off the subject but, I just purchased an NIC but I have to compile the module for it (they provided the source).  So far, I've gotten thoroughly confused trying to figure out how to use gcc on it. (I did some light C programming in DOS).  So far, I haven't seen any thing like compiling a module in the forums - though there a few I have yet to check out.  Could you direct me to the proper place?
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newt
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2008, 09:16:26 am »

Most times nics are pretty well supported by VL, however you may need to enable the module (driver).  Can you provide the NICs brand/model/interface and we'll help you get it working properly?

If you have it already installed then you can probably find it's device information via the commands: 'lspci' or 'lsusb'

Cheers!
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StrayBit
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2008, 09:42:04 am »

The new NIC is a D-Link DFE-530TX+ Fast Ethernet Desktop PCI Adapter.  The cd that came with it provided drivers for windows and the source code for Linux. 

I have the NIC installed in the machine but VL hasn't recognized it so I figured that I had to make the module for it.

#paste
root:# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 635 Host (rev 11)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS85C503/5513 (LPC Bridge)
00:02.1 SMBus: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS961/2 SMBus Controller
00:02.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller (rev 07)
00:02.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller (rev 07)
00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev d0)
00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 315PRO PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
vector://temp/src
root:# lsusb
Bus 2 Device 1: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 1 Device 1: ID 0000:0000
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StrayBit
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2008, 09:45:01 am »

PS
I don't know if it is needed but the hardware revision is F2.

Now, how do I get of SU? Close the terminal window?

Thanks
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2008, 09:55:09 am »

To get out of 'su' you can just type 'exit' ENTER and you'll be dropped back to your normal user.

It looks like your NIC has been identified: 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
Likely, this is the chipset used on the D-Link card, which should make it fairly easy to add to the system.

The module should be 8139too, so (as root) you can try loading this module by typing: modprobe 8139too

Then check with 'lsmod' to make sure this module is loaded, and then check with 'ifconfig -a' to see if eth0 has been added.
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StrayBit
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2008, 10:16:03 am »

Thanks for helping with SU - just like I got out of the command prompt in Windows.

The RealTek 8139 is the NIC used to connect to my Wireless BroadBand so I can post to this forum.  (Funny - or as usual! - I didn't notice the RealTek when I posted that list!

The D-Link will be used to connect to my other PCs.

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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2008, 12:37:22 pm »

Well, it looks as though your D-Link NIC adapter will use the same driver according to D-Link's driver download webpage.  I would start by putting the card in your system and then running lspci, and ifconfig -a.  You may find this whole process to be easier that first expected - if so, then that's always welcome Cheesy
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StrayBit
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2008, 08:06:25 pm »

I had the card in the machine while we were conversing but after about 6 hours, I lost internet.

I looked at ifconfig (without -a) once before I lost internet and it only listed the the RTL8139.  It wasn't until after losing internet that I discovered using the -a option which listed eth0 and eth1 but no ip address.  Removing the D-Link card restored internet and ifconfig (with or without -a listed my ip.  Inserting the D-Link card in another PCI slot resumed the prior non-working status.

I downloaded the driver from D-Link and, with 2 exceptions, it appears the same as provided on the cd.  The cd version is named rhinefet.tgz  and only went to 2.6.18 (uname -r yields 2.6.22.14) and contains 3 more files;  I don't see that restriction on the downloaded driver dlkfet-4.39.tar.gz which doesn't have osdep.h, rhine_hw.c, or rhine_hw.h.


Which still leaves stuck at the following instruction:
   5) Compile the driver source files and it will generate rhinefet.o, and
       copy it to correct driver installation path (The installation directory
       is different in different kernel versions. In 2.4.x/2.6.x kernel, the path
       is /lib/modules/KERNEL_VERSION/kernel/drivers/net/, ...
How do I compile?  Opps!  I discovered if I right-click on rhinefet.tgz (from the cd), it would offer to install.  The download file is dlkfet-4.39.tar.gz and right click allows extraction but no installation.

Ugh! It's past my bedtime. Try some more tomorrow.
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2008, 08:21:31 pm »

I honestly don't think you need to compile that driver.  From what you've posted it really looks like Vector Linux already has that driver in the kernl and is already recognizing your NIC.  It's just a matter of configuring it in vasm if I'm right.  Please post the output of

/sbin/ifconfig -a

and let's go from there.  I suspect you're trying to reinvent the wheel when it just isn't necessary.  Grin
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