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« on: October 28, 2006, 06:08:39 pm »

I'm starting a permanent thread for discussing the development of VL-hot here. For the recent arrivals, VL-hot is the external drive auto-mount system of Vector Linux since SOHO 5.1.
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2006, 06:17:31 pm »

VL-hot 0.3.7.0 for VL 5.8 is out. Due to a problem on the repo, it is not yet available for downloading, hopefully it will be by tomorrow. It should be is in veclinux-current/testing/ at http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-current/testing/base/vl-hot-0.3.7.0-noarch-4vl58.tlz. Please test so it can hopefully make it into the 5.8 Standard release.

Here's the changelog since the previous version:

2006-10-28    <joe1962@users.sourceforge.net>

   * Released 0.3.7.0

2006-10-27    <joe1962@users.sourceforge.net>

   * Disabled "read/write" radio button in vl-hot-config for NTFS (kernel rw mount not working).
   * Added radio button in vl-hot-config for NTFS-3G rw mounting.
   * Added NTFS3G variable in vl-hot.conf
   * Implemented NTFS-3G rw mounting in vl-hot_mount.

2006-10-08    <joe1962@users.sourceforge.net>

   * Fixed vl-hot-config tooltips for NTFS write permissions.

Edited by JohnB316 to add URL to the package download.
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2006, 11:51:31 am »

Hi Joe.

Please take a look on the new Slack 11 directory structure.
You might find something interesting about /media.

I've downloaded that newest vl-hot, will test and report it soon.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2006, 01:56:44 pm »

My interpretation of the FHS hasn't changed. I believe /mnt is still the right place for external hard drives and pendrives. They are "removable devices", not "removable media". Removable media is when a device handles some kind of removable data medium, like CDROMs, zip drives, etc. The media is separate from the device in that case.

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/media : Mount point for removeable media
Purpose

This directory contains subdirectories which are used as mount points for removeable media such as floppy disks, cdroms and zip disks.

Tip   Rationale
    

Historically there have been a number of other different places used to mount removeable media such as /cdrom, /mnt or /mnt/cdrom. Placing the mount points for all removeable media directly in the root directory would potentially result in a large number of extra directories in /. Although the use of subdirectories in /mnt as a mount point has recently been common, it conflicts with a much older tradition of using /mnt directly as a temporary mount point.
Specific Options

The following directories, or symbolic links to directories, must be in /media, if the corresponding subsystem is installed:

Directory   Description
floppy   Floppy drive (optional)
cdrom   CD-ROM drive (optional)
cdrecorder   CD writer (optional)
zip   Zip drive (optional)
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/mnt : Mount point for a temporarily mounted filesystem
Purpose

This directory is provided so that the system administrator may temporarily mount a filesystem as needed. The content of this directory is a local issue and should not affect the manner in which any program is run.

This directory must not be used by installation programs: a suitable temporary directory not in use by the system must be used instead.
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2006, 07:18:31 pm »

VL-hot 0.3.7.1 for VL 5.8 is out:
http://vectorlinux.osuosl.org/veclinux-current/packages/base/vl-hot-0.3.7.1-noarch-4vl58.tlz

Here's the changelog since the previous version:

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2006-11-14    <joe1962@users.sourceforge.net>

   * Released 0.3.7.1

2006-11-14    <joe1962@users.sourceforge.net>

   * vl-hot_mount: checks for mounted mountpoint after mount, if not found does not create desktop icons.
   * vl-hot_umount: checks for mounted mountpoint after umount, if not found deletes unused mountpoint and desktop icons.
   * vl-hot_umount: fixed caller origin bug that left desktop icons when unplugging before unmount.

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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2007, 04:36:53 pm »

I want to move the development of vl-hot over to Google Code Projects, like vcpufreq. However, before I do so, I want to resolve the name issue. I need a new name for vl-hot, because it doesn't sound so cool, nor does it really express anything about it anymore. The "hot" part came from the beginning, when vl-hot was called from hotplug, but it was moved to udev a long time ago, and hotplug isn't even there anymore. I figure something more inline with the vasm module names and vcpufreq would be better. Any suggestions?
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2007, 12:12:00 am »

vl-hot 1.0.1 has been released. A package is now in the 5.8 testing/ repo.

Changelog:
Code:
2007-02-07    <joe1962@users.sourceforge.net>

* Released 1.0.1

2007-02-07    <joe1962@users.sourceforge.net>

* Replaced notification sounds.
* Updated vl-hot-config with Notification tab.
* Changed to Aska's new vl-hot-png icon.

2007-02-05    <joe1962@users.sourceforge.net>

* Moved desktop notification so it happens on a per partition basis.

2007-01-15    <joe1962@users.sourceforge.net>

* Added & to return from call to sudo for desktop notification.

2007-01-15    <joe1962@users.sourceforge.net>

* Added desktop notification for unmount and some errors.


Check the package announcement thread for more info:
http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=1919.msg11059#msg11059
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2007, 05:09:51 pm »

My apologies for reviving an old thread but this seems the appropriate spot.  Just installed 5.8 on a Z505R laptop, compiled out the fluff using 2.6.20, udev only, pcmciautils only, no hal/hotplug,  using vl-hot 1.01.  I have a Sandisk 6-in-1 PCMCIA adapter which, when used with a 32M memorystick, gives the above error.  It works fine with a 128M SD card and a separate CF card adapter.

From dmesg |tail:
Code:
pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0
cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean.
pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0
Probing IDE interface ide2...
hde: MEMORYSTICK, CFA DISK drive
ide2 at 0x100-0x107,0x10e on irq 3
hde: max request size: 128KiB
hde: 63424 sectors (32 MB) w/1KiB Cache, CHS=991/4/16
 hde: hde1
ide-cs: hde: Vpp = 0.0
FAT: Unrecognized mount option "iocharset=iso8859-15" or missing value

from /var/log/messages:
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Mar  7 17:50:54 VZ505R kernel: pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0
Mar  7 17:50:54 VZ505R kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean.
Mar  7 17:50:54 VZ505R kernel: pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R kernel: hde: max request size: 128KiB
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R kernel: hde: 63424 sectors (32 MB) w/1KiB Cache, CHS=991/4/16
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R kernel:  hde: hde1
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R kernel: ide-cs: hde: Vpp = 0.0
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R vl-hot_mount: Starting vl-hot_mount...
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R vl-hot_mount: devname: hde
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R vl-hot_mount: volname: vol
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R vl-hot_mount: Mounting /dev/vl-hot/hde on /mnt/vl-hot/hde/vol
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R vl-hot_mount: /dev/vl-hot/hde not mountable (MBR) ...
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R vl-hot_mount: Finishing vl-hot_mount...
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R vl-hot_mount: Starting vl-hot_mount...
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R vl-hot_mount: devname: hde1
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R vl-hot_mount: volname: vol1
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R vl-hot_mount: Mounting /dev/vl-hot/hde1 on /mnt/vl-hot/hde/vol1
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R vl-hot_mount: /dev/vl-hot/hde1 Filesystem is FAT12
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R vl-hot_mount: mounting FAT12 filesystem: /dev/vl-hot/hde1 on /mnt/vl-hot/hde/vol1
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R vl-hot_mount: mounting /dev/vl-hot/hde1 failed, not showing desktop icon for /mnt/vl-hot/hde/vol1
Mar  7 17:50:56 VZ505R vl-hot_mount: Finishing vl-hot_mount...

The camera formats these cards like this but I will reformat it to FAT16 and see if the camera can work with it.  I wanted to mention that the above poster's situation is not isolated.  A separate issue which may require a new thread if you desire is that vl-hot does not recognize the Belkin's efilm Pro cardbus 32 CF adapter.  Also, I'm trying to sort out why the built-in memory stick adapter is unusable with driveready seekcomplete errors though this is most likely a separate hardware issue not unique to VL given what I am reading on the net.

Brad
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2007, 07:35:27 pm »

Brad,

I split your post into its own topic, mainly because you appended it to a version of vl-hot that is very deprecated. Also, you're more likely to get a better response if your post isn't buried in an irrelevant thread.

Cheers,
John
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2007, 08:27:22 pm »

Merged this to the vl-hot thread, where I'd prefer to discuss the issues. I actually wanted to merge part of the thread where this last was originally posted to, beginning with the 5.8 install, but it was older than the vl-hot thread, so it would have ended up on top.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2007, 04:55:52 pm »

Finally got vl-hot 1.0.3 done and uploaded to the 5.8 patches repo. This has hardwired codepage and charset dropdowns, as it is no longer possible to parse the modules at runtime. As of SOHO 5.8 final, they are built-in to the kernel.

This also has the FAT12 mount options fix which came out in 1.0.2, but it seems that package lost its way and never made it to the repo... Embarrassed

http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=3343.msg20887#msg20887
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2007, 07:20:52 pm »

I posted this in the package announcement thread but decided to post it here to in case anyone ran into trouble.  I tried to fetch this via a slapt-get --upgrade with less than satisfactory results.  It seems some dependencies haven't made it to the patches repository yet:

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root:# slapt-get --upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Excluding vl-hot, use --ignore-dep to override
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  vl-hot: Depends: gambas-runtime >= 1.0.18 | gambas >= 1.0.18
The following packages have been EXCLUDED:
  vl-hot kernel-headers
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.

Hopefully this is just a matter of moving packages from testing to patches.

Regards,
Cait
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2007, 07:34:24 pm »

Yes, our package testers seem to be slowing down... Wink
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2007, 07:22:09 am »

Joe, I had noticed.  Some aspell dictionaries I submitted >2 months ago, about the simplest packages in the world, are still in testing.  I figure most if not all of us are volunteers and they'll get to it when time permits.

Anyway, thank you for taking care of this.  I do have an old 64MB FAT12 memory card.  I don't know when the last time I used it was but it's good to know I can if I want to.

-Cait
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2007, 07:40:07 am »

I do have an old 64MB FAT12 memory card.
Then would you please confirm that the fix works?... Grin
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