Obscure Programming Languages Review (WAS: 'Libs from slackware repo's?')

[Windozer]

Got both perls on one win machine to co-exist.  Strawberry seems easier to use and does the CPAN and active perl PPM stuff out of the box, but active perl doesn't play nice at all with the CPAN modules. (I'll probably give up on active perl then).

Speaking of Kennedy, here's something funny from the CPAN site:

_Distribution Release _      _  Description _
Acme-Mom-Yours-0.01     Your mom is so fat she takes 2 months to compile 

[Windozer]

Perl's Syntax is making me NUTZ   

Long live Io ! 

[kidd]

Heh

Comparing perl's syntax with smalltalk or Io syntax is.... how to say it..... difficult.

But well, Io does not have any cpan-like repo

I'm lately taking a look at lisp and I'm in a kind of love-hate relation with its (absence of) syntax.

I haven't touched Io for a couple of weeks.  Maybe it's time to give it another go.

Regards

[Windozer]

I'm lately taking a look at lisp and I'm in a kind of love-hate relation with its (absence of) syntax.

(What (syntax (might (that (be)))))(<:-|)

I haven't touched Io for a couple of weeks.  Maybe it's time to give it another go.

I'm starting to like Ioke more than Io -Ioke.org.  As you mention earlier, Kidd, it's newer than Io, so they've built on Io's flexibility. One downside to both - beside the typical weakness of libraries and docs for new languages - is the inherent slowness of messages in object-plus-message OO languages.  Well, everything's a trade off somewhere: give up speed for flexibility.

The other grip I have about Ioke is it's heavy Java dependence, and the requirement to build it using Apache Ant. Java just bugs me because I've had to code too much in it --- and Ants are, well, they're BUGS <G>

- H

[Tommy599]

Talking about obscure languages, check out LOLCODE, which was inspired by lolspeak
http://lolcode.com/   

[Windozer]

Tommy,

that site's pretty cool ...

The "NOM NOM" remixes (which might be adictive if you're musical) sort of proves that "egg-headed" concepts like programming languages need to balanced by humor. 

If programming languages were religions:

LOLCODE would be Pastafarianism - An esoteric, Internet-born belief that nobody really takes seriously, despite all the efforts to develop and spread it.

[Lang. Author's reply:]
Nailed it.

Code:

HAI
CAN HAS STDIO?
I HAS A VAR
IM IN YR LOOP
        UP VAR!!1
        VISIBLE VAR
        IZ VAR BIGGER THAN 10? KTHXBYE
IM OUTTA YR LOOP
KTHXBYE

YES! Finally an Esperanto-Emoticon Language  --- numb numb numb! 

thanks for that!

[Tommy599]

You're welcome.

Oh, and I (HATE Lisp) so badly!!

[kidd]

It's amazing how many smart people is involved in lolstuff.  It goes far beyond what's apparently a small joke about funny cats with funny captions.

For example, parrot devs: http://lolcode.com/news/lightning-parrot


BTW two days ago a friend of mine emailed me this: http://forum.lolcode.com/viewtopic.php?id=51   .  A brainfuck interpreter written in lolcode. Hilarious

Welcome to thread Tommy599

[kidd]

Windozer, are you still doing perl?

Mat S Trout (DBIx::Class main dev) proposed a contest for perl hackers to blog weekly during 6 months (with symbolic prizes).

There's an RSS Feed and a planet page in http://ironman.enlightenedperl.org/ .

Here's the first post where he talked about it (warning: possibly rude words) http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/iron-man/

I'm following those posts since it began (about a week ago) and I've already learnt many things about those 'modern perl' modules (Moose , KiokuDB, catalyst, DBIx::Class).